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Lucy de Mohun

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  • Name Lucy de Mohun 
    Born of Dunster, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Person ID I7583  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Reynold de Mohun,   b. Abt 1206, of Dunster, Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20/20 Jan 1257/8, Tormohun, Devon, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 52 years) 
    Mother Hawise Fitz Geoffrey,   d. Bef 1243 
    Married Aft 8 Nov 1227 
    Family ID F3037  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 John de Grey,   b. of Codnor, Derbyshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 5/05 Jan 1271/2 
    Children 
     1. Henry de Grey,   b. From 1255 to 1258, of Codnor, Derbyshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 18 Sep 1308  (Age ~ 53 years)
     2. Joan de Grey
     3. Lucy de Grey
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F3322  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Arnold Murdac,   d. Aft 1290 
    Married Abt 4 Jul 1281 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F3323  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “LUCY DE MOHUN, married JOHN DE GREY, Knt., of Codnor, Beeley, Hazelbache, Heanor, Normanton, and Shirland, Derbyshire, Thurrock, Essex, Hoo and Aylesford, Kent, Evington, Leicestershire, Sherringham, Norfolk, etc., son and heir of Richard de Grey, Knt., of Codnor, Derbyshire, Thurrock, Essex, Aylesford and Hoo, Kent, Governor of the Channel Isles, Seneschal of Gascony and Poitou, Constable of Devises, Dover, and Kenilworth Castles, Warden of Cinque Ports, by Lucy, daughter and heiress of John du Hommet (or de Humez), of Humberstone, Leicestershire, Sherringham, Norfolk, and Newbottle Northamptonshire. Her maritagium included the manor of Tunworth, Hampshire. They had one son, Henry, Knt. [1st Lord Grey of Codnor] and two daughters, Joan and Lucy (wife of Brian le Waleys). He was knighted in 1244, and joined with his father against King Henry III. He is said to have brought Carmelites (White Friars) from the Holy Land about 1240 and settled them at Aylesford, Kent. He acquired the manor of Grey, Wiltshire from William de Arundel. SIR JOHN DE GREY died shordy before 5 Jan. 1271/2. In 1272-3 John de Evington arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against his widow, Lucy, touching common of pasture in Evington, Leicestershire. Lucy married (2nd) before 4 July 1281 (date of pardon for marrying without a license) ARNOLD MURDAC, Knt. In 1284 he acknowledged that he owed Philip de Montgomery 4 marks; to be levied, in default of payment, of his lands and chattels in Leicestershire. In 1285, as Arnold Murdak, Knt., of Northamptonshire, he owed a debt of ₤17 to Baroncinus Galteri, and others their partners and merchants of Lucca. On 19 May 1290 he and his wife, Lucy, were acquitted of 100l. of the 200l. by which they made fine with the king for their trespass in marrying without the king's license. SIR ARNOLD MURDAC was living in June 1290.
      Banks Baronies in Fee 1 (1844): 227-230 (sub Grey of Codnor). Vivian Vis. of Cornwall (H.S.P. 9) (1874): 143-146 (Mohun ped.: "Lucia [de Mohun] uxor Johis Grey de Codner."). Cox Notes on the Churches of Derbyshire 4 (1879): 233-234. Arch. Jour. 37 (1880): 57-93. Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 42 (1881): 551; 49 (1888): 161. C.C.R. 1279-1288 (1902): 100, 346. C.C.R. 1288-1296 (1904): 29, 34, 80, 134. Cal. IPM 1 (1904): 276-277. Reg. of William Wickwane, Lord Archbishop of York 1279-1285 (Suttees Soc. 114) (1907): 75. VCH Hampshire 3 (1908): 383 (Grey arms: Barry argent and azure, with three roundels gules in the chief); 4 (1911): 174-175. Maxwell-Lyte: Hist. of Dunster 1 (1909): 18-34. C.P. 6 (1926): 123, 126 footnote n, 135. C.F.R. 11 (1929): 151. Paget (1957) 259: 3 (sub Grey of Codnor). TG 8 (1988): 3-38. National Archives, C 241/6/198; C 241/8/418; C 241/14/19 (available at www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp).”

      2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “REYNOLD DE MOHUN, Knt., of Dunster, Somerset, Holditch (in Thorncombe), Tor Mohun, and Ottery Mohun (in Luppit), Devon, Tunworth, Hampshire, Whichford, Warwickshire, etc., Justice of Common Pleas, Justice of the Forest south of Trent, 1242, Governor of Saubey Castle, and, in right of his wife, of Streatley, Berkshire, son and heir, born about 1206 (minor in 1213 and 1222, came of age in 1227). He married (1st) after 8 Nov. 1227 HAWISE FITZ GEOFFREY, daughter of Geoffrey Fitz Peter, Knt., Earl of Essex, by his 2nd wife, Aveline, daughter of Roger de Clare, Earl of Hertford [see ESSEX 2 for her ancestry]. Her maritagium apparently included the manor of Streadey, Berkshire. He had license in 1233 to cut oaks in his wood at Tymeworth for his house at Streadey, Berkshire. They had one son, John, and three daughters, Alice, Juliane (wife of William de Lisle), and Lucy. He accompanied King Henry III to France in 1230 and to Wales in 1231. His wife, Hawise, died before 1243. He married (2nd) in or before 1243 (without license) ISABEL DE FERRERS, widow of Gilbert Basset, of Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, Greywelt, Hampshire, etc., and daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, by Sibyl, 3rd daughter of William Marshal, Knt., 4th Earl of Pembroke (or Striguil), hereditary Master Marshal [see FERRERS 7 for her ancestry]. They had two sons, William and [Master] James [parson of Brompton, Yorkshire]. His wife, Isabel, was co-heiress in 1245 to her uncle, Anselm Marshal, 9th Earl of Pembroke. In 1246 he gave the manor of Axminster, Devon to his foundation of Newenham Abbey, Devon. Sometime in or after 1254, he made a grant to the convent of Bath for the soul of his son, John, lately dead, and other relatives. He was also a benefactor to the canons of Bruton and the abbey of Cleeve. He gave two charters to the townsmen of Dunster. SIR REYNOLD DE MOHUN died at Tor Mohun, Devon 20 Jan. 1257/8, and was buried at Newenham Abbey, Devon. His widow, Isabel, died 26 Nov. 1260.
      Baker Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 2 (1836-41): 239-240 (Bmere or Briwere ped.). Davidson Hist. of Newenham Abbey (1843). Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 5 (1846): 692 (Newenham Abbey, Mohun ped.). Stapleton De Antiquis Legibus liber: Cronica Maiorum et Vicecomitum Londoniarum (Camden Soc. 34) (1846): xxix-xxx. Jour. British Arch. Assoc. 12 (1856): 312-322. St. George & Lennard Vis. of Devon 1620 (H.S.P. 6) (1872): 185-187 (Mohun ped.: "Reignold Mohun Baron of Dunster & Erie of Somerset [1] = Havis d. of John Fitz Jefferie, 1 w., [2] = Isabell d. & h. of Wn Ferrers, 2w."). Vivian Vis. of Cornwall (H.S.P. 9) (1874): 143-146 (Mohun ped.: "Gilbertus Basset 1 maritus ob. s. p. = Isabella filia Willi Comitis Darbiæ = Reginaldus de Mohun fundator Abbatiæ de Newham in Maneria de Axmist' 1246 ob. 1257 = Hawisia soror Johis filia Galfridi Prima uxor. ob. 1260"). Cal. Docs. Rel. Ireland 1 (1875): 439-440, 459; 2 (1877): 5, 21, 22, 68, 76. Arch. Jour. 37 (1880): 57-93. Clark Earls, Earldom, & Castle of Pembroke (1880): 69-75. D.N.B. 38 (1894): 111-112 (biog. of Reginald de Mohun). Desc. Catalogue Ancient Deeds 2 (1894): 203. Somersetshire Pleas 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 11) (1897): 380-381. C.C.R. 1227-1231(1902): 3 (Hawise daughter of Geoffrey Fitz Peter pardoned 8 Nov. 1227 for a debt of 20s. for which she was amerced), 154, 550. English Hist. Rev. 18 (1903): 112-116. Maxwell-Lyte: Hist. of Dunster 1 (1909): 18-34. VCH Hampshire 4 (1911): 76-79, 174-175. CP. 4(1916): 199 (sub Derby) (Ferrers ped.); 9 (1936): 19-21 (sub Mohun). Maxwell-Lyte Two Regs. formerly belonging to the Fam. of Beauchamp of Hatch (Somerset Rec. Soc. 35) (1920): 60-61 (charter of Reynold de Mohun dated c. 1245). Gambier-Parry Coll. of Charters rel. to Goring, etc., 1181-1546 (Oxfordshire Rec. Soc., vol. 13) (1931): lxi-lxv (arms of Reginald de Mohun: Gules a dexter hand habited in a maunch argent and holding a fleur-de-lis or). Stokes et al. Warwickshire Feet of Fines 1 (Dugdale Soc. 11) (1932): 113. VCH Warwick 5 (1949): 205-209. Paget Baronage of England (1957) 369:5. Clanchy Roll & Writ of the Berkshire Eyre of 1248 (Selden Soc. 90) (1973): 199. VCH Wiltshire 12 (1983): 125-138. TG 8 (1988): 3-38. Coat of Armes n.s. 9 (1991): 63-67. Curia Regis Rolls 17 (1991): 12,59; 18(1999): 134.
      Children of Reynold de Mohun, Knt., by Hawise Fitz Geoffrey:
      i. JOHN DE MOHUN [see next].
      ii. ALICE DE MOHUN, married (1st) WILLIAM DE CLINTON, of Aston-Clinton, Buckinghamshire [see SEYMOUR 9]; (2nd) ROBERT DE BEAUCHAMP, Knt., of Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset [see SEYMOUR 9].
      iii. LUCY DE MOHUN, married (1st) JOHN DE GREY, Knt., of Codnor, Derbyshire [see CODNOR 9; (2nd) ARNOLD MURDAC, Knt., of cos. Leicester and Northampton [see CODNOR 9].”