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Lothair II

Male Abt 835 - 869  (~ 34 years)


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  • Name Lothair II  
    Born Abt 835 
    Gender Male 
    Died 8 Aug 869  Piacenza, Emilia-Romagna, Italy Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried Church of San Antonio the Martyr, Piacenza, Emilia-Romagna, Italy Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I7479  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Lothair I,   b. Abt 795,   d. From 28 Sep 855 to 29 Sep 855, Prüm Monastery, Prüm, Bitburg-Prüm, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 60 years) 
    Mother Ermengarde of Tours,   d. 20 Mar 851 
    Married Oct 821 
    Family ID F3258  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Theutberge,   d. Bef 862 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F3287  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Waldrade,   d. Aft 9 Apr 868, Remiremont, Vosges, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 25 Dec 862 
    Children 
     1. Hugues
     2. Gisèle
     3. Bertha,   d. 8 Mar 925, Lucca, Toscano, Italy Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. Ermengarde
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F3288  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “LOTHAIR II, King of Lorraine, 855-869, born about 835, younger son. He married, (1st) about 855 THEUTBERGE, daughter of Count Boso. They had no issue. He married (2nd) 25 Dec. 862 WALDRADE, kinswoman of Count Eberhard, of Alsace. They had one son, Hugues [Duke of Alsace, Lay-abbot of Lobbes], and three daughters, Gisele (wife of Godefrid, Danish king, Duke in Friesland; she was afterwards Abbess of Nivelles and Fosses), Bertha, and Ermengarde (nun). Waldrade died as a nun at Remiremont 9 April, after 868. LOTHAIR II, King of Lorraine, died at Piacenza 8 August 869, and was buried there in the church of San Antonio the Martyr.
      Monumenta Germaniæ Historica SS XIII (1881): 219. (Annales Necrologici Prumienses [necrology of Prüm]: "Anno Domini incarn. 869. Lotharius rex, filius eius, Kal. Iulii die obiit."). Halphen Recueil d'Annales Angevines et Vendômoises (1903): 54 (Annales de Vendôme sub AD. 868: "Hlotharius, filius Hlotharii illius qui superius monachus factus obierat, fraterque Hludowici imperatoris, moritur Placentie atque in monasterio Sancti Antonini sepelitur."). Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 1 (1980): 2 (Die Karolinger). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): IV.13, V.13-V.16. Bouchard Those of My Blood (2001): 84 (chart).”

      2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “LOTHAIR I, King of Bavaria, 814-817, King of Italy, 822-825, 829-840, Emperor, 833-834, 840-855 (joint emperor from 817), son and heir by his father's 1st marriage, born about 795. He married October 821 ERMENGARDE, daughter of Hugues, Count of Tours, by his wife, Ava. They had three sons, Louis (II) [King of Italy, Emperor], Lothair (II) [King of Lorraine], and Charles [King of Provence], and five daughters, Helletrude (or Hiltrude) (wife of Count Berenger), Bertha [Abbess of Avenay], ___ (wife of Giselbert, Count of Masau and Darnau), Gisele [Abbess of San Salvatore, Brescia], Rotnide (probable wife of Lambert II, Count of Nantes). By an unknown mistress, he also had one illegitimate son, Carlomann. His wife, Ermengarde, died 20 March 851. LOTHAIR I died at Priim monastery in Ardennes 28 (or 29) Sept. 855.
      Monumenta Germaniæ Historica SS XIII (1881): 219. (Annales Necrologici Prumienses [necrology of Prüm]: "Anno Domini incarn. 855. Lotharius imperator 3. Kal. Octob. feliciter obiit."). Monumenta Germaniæ Historica (Poetae Latini Aevu Carolini 2) (1884): 241 ("Epitaphium Hludharii Imperatoris: Continet hic tumulus memorandi Caesaris ossa / Hlotharii magni, principis atque pii. / Qui Francis, Italis, Romanis praefuit ipsis, Omnia sed sprevit, pauper et hinc abiit. / Nam bis tricenos monachus sic attigit annos, / Et se mutavit, ac bene post obiit. / III. Cal. Octob."). Monumenta Germaniæ Historica, Scriptores 13 (1881): 232 (Annales Lobienses: sub A.D. 855: "Lotharius imperator, qui mutato habitu Prumiae monachus factus fuerat, obiit 3. Kal. Octob.; cui aequivocus filius suus Lotharius successerat, qui eo anno Tiethbergam, sororem Hucberti abbatis, duxit uxorem."). Waitz Monumenta Germaniæ Historica, Scriptores rerum Germanicarum (in separate editions) 5 (1883): 45 (Annales Bertiniani sub AD. 855: "Lotharius imperator, morbo correptus vitamque desperans, monasterium Proneae in Arduenna constitutum adiit, seculoque et regno penitus abrenuncians, tonsus est, vitam habitumque monachi humiliter sumens. Dispositoque inter filios, qui secum morabantur, regno, ita ut Lotharius cognomen eius Frandam, Karlus vero Provinciam optinerent, intra sex dies vita decessit quarto Kalendarum Octobrium, atque in eodem monasterio sepulturam, ut desideraverat, consecutus est."). Monumenta Germaniæ Historica, Scriptores 13 (1891) 46 (Annales Fuldenses sub AD. 855: "Hlutharius imperator renuntians omnibus, quae habuit, Prumiense monasterium ingressus effectusque ibi monachaus III. Kal. Octobr. mortalem hominem exuit et ad vitam perrexit aeternam."). Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 5 (1898): 112 (seal of Lothair I dated AD. 843 - Oval: impression of an antique oval intaglio gem. Bust in profile to the right, crowned with laurel. Perhaps a portrait of Caracalla or Alexander Severus. Legend: + XPE ADIVVA HLOTHARIVM AV[G].). Parisot Royaume de Lorraine sous les Carolingiens (1899). Halphen Recueil d'Annales Angevines et Vendômoises (1903): 53 (Annales de Vendôme sub AD. 855: "Hlothanus rex moritur, prius factus monachus in monasterio Promie oh peccatum persecutionis paterne."). Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen (1935) III 8. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 1 (1980): 2 (Die Karolinger). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): III.9, IV.8-IV.15.”