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Charles II "the Bald"

Male 823 - 877  (54 years)


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  • Name Charles II "the Bald"  
    Born 13 Jun 823  Frankfurt am Main, Hesse, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 6 Oct 877  Brides-les-Bains, Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried Abbey of Saint Denis, Saint-Denis, Seine-Saint-Denis, ÃŽle-de-France, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I7408  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Louis I "the Pious",   b. From 16 Apr 778 to Sep 778, Chasseneuil-du-Poitou, Aquitaine, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Jun 840, near Ingelheim am Rhein, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 62 years) 
    Mother Judith,   b. Abt 805,   d. 19 Apr 843, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 38 years) 
    Married Feb 819 
    Family ID F3253  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Ermentrude of Orléans,   b. Abt 27 Sep 830 
    Married 13 Dec 842  Quierzy, Aisne, Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Judith of France,   b. Abt 844,   d. Aft 870  (Age ~ 27 years)
     2. Louis II "the Stammerer",   b. Abt 1 Nov 846,   d. 10 Apr 879, Compiègne, Oise, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 32 years)
     3. Charles
     4. Karlmann or Carloman
     5. Dreux
     6. Pépin
     7. Hildegarde of France
     8. Ermentrude of France
     9. Gisele of France
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F3260  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Richilde of Gorze,   d. From 910 to 3 Feb 911 
    Married 22 Jan 870  Aix-la-Chapelle (Aachen), Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Charles
     2. Rothilde of France
     3. of France
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F3261  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “CHARLES II the Bald, King of Neustria, 838-840, King of the West Franks, 840-877, King of (western) Lorraine, 870-877, King of Italy, 875-877, Emperor, 875-877, son by his father's 2nd marriage, born at Frankfurt-am-Main 13 June 823. He married (1st) at Quierzy, Aisne 13 Dec. 842 ERMENTRUDE OF ORLÉANS, daughter of Eudes, Count of Orléans, by his wife, Engeltrude. She was born 27 Sept., about 830. They had six sons, Louis (II) [King of Neustria, King of Aquitaine, King of France], Charles [King of Aquitaine], Karlmann (or Carloman) [Abbot of St.-Germain of Auxerre], Lothair [Abbot of St.-Germain of Auxerre], Dreux, and Pépin, and four daughters, Judith, Hildegarde, Ermentrude [Abbess of Hasnon], and Gisela (or Gisele). His wife, Ermentrude, died 6 October 869. He married (2nd) 12 October 869, confirmed at Aix-la-Chapelle 22 Jan. 870 RICHILDE OF GORZE, daughter of Bivin, Count and Abbot of Gorze, by daughter of Boson l'Ancien, count in Italy. They had three children, including one son, Charles, and one daughter, Rothilde (wife of Rodgar [or Roger], Count of Maine). CHARLES II the Bald, Emperor, King of the West Franks, died at Brides-les-Bains (Savoie, Fr.) 6 October 877, and was buried at Nantua monastery, later at St. Denis. His widow, Richilde, living 910, and died before 3 Feb. 911.
      Monumenta Germaniæ Historica SS XIII (1881): 219. (Annales Necrologici Prumienses [necrology of Prüm]: "Anno Domini inc. 877. Karolus, frater eius, Nonas Octob. feliciter obit.”) Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 5 (1898): 112 (seal of King Charles II dated A.D. 843 - Oval: bust of a youthful personage, in profile to the right, head crowned with laurel. Legend: + KAROLVS GRATIA DI REX.). Halphen Recueil d'Annales Angevines et Vendômoises (1903): 54-55 (Annales de Vendôme sub A.D. 877: "Karolus imperator obiit, id est Calvus, et filius ejus Hludowicus regnum recepit."). Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen (1935) III 15. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 1 (1980): 2 (sub Die Karolinger); 2 (1984): 1 (sub Kings of the West Franks). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): III.15, IV.39-IV.52. Online resource: http.//www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/mittelalter/koenige/frankenreich/karl_2_der_kahle_koenig_von_frankreich_877.html.”

      2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “LOUIS the Pious, King of Aquitaine, 781-813, Joint emperor, Emperor, 813-814, 834-840, legitimate son, born at Chasseneuil-du-Poitou in Aquitaine in 778, between 16 April and September. He married (1st) about 794 ERMENGARDE OF HASPENGAU, daughter of Ingram, Count of Haspengau. They had Lothair (I) [King of Bavaria, joint Emperor, Emperor], Pépin (or Pippin) (I) [King of Aquitaine], and Ludwig (II) [King of Bavaria, King of the Eastern Franks], and two daughters, Rotrude and Hildegarde. His wife, Ermengarde, died 3 October 818. He married (2nd) in February 819 JUDITH, daughter of Welf I, Count of Altorf, by his wife, Eigilwi (or Heilwich). She was born about 805. They had one son, Charles the Bald [King of the Western Franks, Emperor], and one daughter, Gisela (wife of Eberhard, Margrave of Friuli). By an unknown mistress, he also had one illegitimate son, Arnulf. LOUIS the Pious (or LUDWIG der Fromme) died on an island in the Rhine near Ingelheim 20 June 840, and was buried in the church of the abbey of Saint Arnoul at Metz. His widow, Judith, died at Tours 19 April 843.
      Viollet Prières et Fragments religieux (1870): 47-63. Monumenta Germaniæ Historica SS XIII (1881): 219. (Annales Necrologici Prumienses [necrology of Prüm]: "Anno 840. Ludvicus imperator 12 Kal. Iulii diem obiit."). Monumenta Germaniæ Historica (Necrologia Germaniæ 1) (1888): 275 (Necrologium Augiæ Divitis: "XIII kal. May [19 April] - Judit regina"), 277 (Necrologium Augiæ Divitis: "XI kal. July [21 June] - Hludowicus imperator augustus") Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 5 (1898): 112 (seal of Emperor Louis I dated A.D. 816 - Oval: a bust, in profile to the right, crowned with laurel. Legend: + XPE PROTEGE HLVDOVVICVM IMPERATORE.), 112 (undated seal of Emperor Louis I - Oval: bust in profile to the right, crowned with laurel. The drapery fastened on the right shoulder with a button. Legend: + XPE PROTEGE HLVDOVVICVM IMPERATORE.). Halphen Recueil d'Annales Angevines et Vendômoises (1903): 53 (Annales de Vendôme sub A.D 840: "Hludowicus imperator moritur."). Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen (1935) II 6. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 1 (1980): 2 (sub Die Karolinger); 3(4) (1989): 736 (sub Welfen). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): II.5, III.9-III.15. Settipani & von Kerrebrouck La Préhistoire des Capetians (1993).
      Children of Louis I (or Ludwig I), by Ermengarde of Haspengau:
      i. LOTHAIR, King of Bavaria, King of Italy, Emperor, married ERMENGARDE OF TOURS [see Line C, Gen. 3].
      Children of Louis I (or Ludwig I), by Judith of Altorf:
      i. CHARLES II the Bald, King of Neustria, King of the West Franks, King of Italy, Emperor [see next].
      ii. GISELA, married EBERHARD, Margrave of Friuli [see Line D, Gen. 3 below].”