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Joanna de Tillières

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  • Name Joanna de Tillières 
    Gender Female 
    Person ID I7281  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Gilbert Crispin de Tillières,   b. of, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1190, , Palestine Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Eleanor de Vitré,   d. Abt 18 Aug 1233, , Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married Abt 1184 
    Family ID F3142  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Thomas Malesmains 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F3221  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “WILLIAM FITZ PATRICK, 2nd Earl of Salisbury, of Chitteme, Amesbury, Chicklade, Little Langford, North Tidworth, Somerford (in Great Somerford), and Shrewton, Wiltshire, Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, Edgware, Middlesex, etc., son and heir, born about 1150. He married about 1191 ELEANOR DE VITRÉ, widow successively of William Paynel, of Drax, Yorkshire, Broughton, Lincolnshire, Wootton, Oxfordshire, etc. (died 1184), and Gilbert de Tillieres (died 1190), seigneur of Tillières-sur-Avre (Eure) in Normandy, Headley and Westcote, Surrey, West Compton, Berkshire, etc., and daughter of Robert III de Vitré, seigneur of Vitré, by Emma, daughter of Alain de Dinan [see MORTAIN 4 for her ancestry]. Her maritagium included a moierty of the manors of Ryes, Trungy, and Ducy, all in Normandy, and £20 sterling annually out of manor of Cowling, Suffolk. They had one daughter, Ela [Countess of Salisbury]. He gave the advowson of the church of Canford, Dorset with its dependent chapel of St. James at Poole, Dorset to Bradenstoke Priory, together with the chapel of St. Andrew at Chitterne, Wiltshire. His wife, Eleanor, gave the same priory the advowson of the church of Cowling, Suffolk with a rent of 40s. WILLIAM FITZ PATRICK, 2nd Earl of Salisbury, died 17 April 1196, and was buried in Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire. His widow, Eleanor, married (4th) before 1198 GILBERT MALESMAINS, in right of his wife, of Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, Cowling, Suffolk, etc. They had no issue. In 1203 Gilbert and his wife, Eleanor, and William Fitz Martin and Finapopula his wife had an assize regarding land in Cowling, Suffolk. He was living in 1205. A royal writ of 1216 ordered that Eleanor, Countess of Salisbury, should be permitted to hold her manors of Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, Edgware, Middlesex, and Wootton, Oxfordshire in peace. In 1217 she gave a setier of oats to Mondaye Abbey in Normandy to be received annually at Trungy, and in 1218 a rent from her oven of Ryes to buy waxlights to burn every day at the mass of Holy Mary. In 1223 Eleanor, sometime Countess of Salisbury, granted Roger de London, clerk, the assart called Le Frith in the manor of Cowling, Suffolk. In 1227 she gave 10s. money of Tours annually to Mondaye Abbey for the observation of anniversary of her daughter, Juliane de Tillieres, widow of Baldwin Rastell, to be received annually at Trungy. In 1232 she granted Roger, son of Richard de Coiling', the land called Hamstall, and other lands which his father Richard held in the vill of Cowling, Suffolk to hold for term of his life. The same year she made fine with the king by 10 marks for having seisin of her wood of Wootton, Oxfordshire. Eleanor, Countess of Salisbury, died testate shortly before 18 August 1233. Clutterbuck Hist. & Antiq. of Hereford 1(1815): 371 (Longespée-Zouch ped.). Bowles & Nichols Annals & Antiqs. of Lacock Abbey (1835): 263-267. Stapleton Magni Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniae 2 (1844): xliv-I. Memoirs illus. of the Hist. & Antiqs. of Wiltshire & the City of Salisbury (1851): 217-217 ("William Earl of Salisbury took part in the ceremonial of the first coronation of the lion-hearted king, which was solemnised with great state at Westminster on 3d of Sept. 1189; he carried the verge or red, cosigned with a dove on its summit. At Richard's second coronation, which took place after his return from captivity in Germany, and which was solemnised in the cathedral of Winchester on the 18th April, 1194, this earl was one of four who supported the canopy ... In the latter year the earl of Salisbury was also constitued keeper of the king's charter or grant for licensing tournaments throughout the country ... According to the Book of Lacock, his [William's] body was buried at the priory of Bradenstoke. His wife, who survived him for thirty-five years, was Alianor, daughter of Robert de Vitré, of Brittany,... She was married first to William Paynell, lord of Hambie in Normandy, and of Drax in Yorkshire, whose widow she became in 1184; and she was married thirdly to Gilbert de Malesmains, who in her right held the manor of Gatesden in Hertfordshire, in the year 1205. Alianor countess of Salisbury died in Normandy, and was buried by the side of her daughter Juliana, in the abbey of St. Martin de Monte Dei, commonly called Mondaye."). Herald & Genealogist 6 (1871): 241-253. Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 35 (1874): 31 (two charters of Eleanor de Vitrei, Countess of Salisbury, one dated 1223, the other dated 1232 witnessed by Andrew de Vitrei). Money Hist. of Newbury (1887): 72-79 (Salisbury ped.). Baildon Select Civil Pleas 1 (SeIden Soc.3 ) (1890): 60. Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 2 (1892): 402 (seal of Eleanor de Vitré, Countess of Salisbury dated 1222 - Pointed oval. In long dress, head-dress and cloak. Standing, turned slightly to the left, on a platform. In the right hand a fleur-de-lis. The left hand lifted before the breast. In the field on the right a quatrefoll. Legend: [SIGIL]LVM : ALIENOR [CO]MTISSE DE SALESBIR..). Broussillon LaMaison de Laval 1 (1895): 271-314. Bull. de la Commission historique et archéologique de la Mayenne 2nd Set. 11 (1895): 168-209. Round Cal. of Docs. Preserved in France 1 (1899): 537-538. C.C.R. 1231-1234 (1905): 97, 99, 150, 247, 249, 286, 370. VCH Hertford 2 (1908): 201-207. Clay Early Yorkshire Charters 6 (1939): 21-24. VCH Wiltshire 3 (1956): 275-288; 13 (1987): 105-114; 14 (1991): 194-204; 15 (1995): 13-55, 153-163, 178-183, 242-252. Paget English Baronies (1957): 432:1. Sanders English Baronies (1960): 91 (In 1212 William, Earl of Salisbury, claimed lands from Henry de Bohun and in 1215 control of the barony of Trowbridge was granted to William. A compromise was reached later in the same year when the honour was divided between the Earl of Hereford and the Earl of Salisbury. Half the barony of Trowbridge remained with the lords of Chitterne (p. 92), 112. Powicke Loss of Normandy, 1198-1204 (1961): 353-354 (sub Tillieres: "In 1172 Tillières-sur-Avre (Eure) was held by Gilbert of Tillières for the service of 3 knights [R.B., ii, 631. A. reads 4 knights]. He died during the third Crusade and his heir was still under age in 1198 [Rot. Scacc., ii, 321]. This heir, Gilbert the younger, died between 1220 and 1227 since he was succeeded by his sister Juliana, who was dead in the latter year [Stapleton, II, xlvi, note]. By this time, if not before, the rights of a second sister, Joanna, the wife of Thomas Malesmains, had been recognised also, although she and her husband lived in England. The co-heirs in 1228 were Hilaria, the daughter of Juliana, and Nicholas Malesmains, the son of Joanna [Stapleton, II, xlviii]. Hilaria's husband, James of Bavelingham, did homage to the king of France for the whole honour, and tanquam antenatus, secured by judgement of the exchequer in 1234 the right of the whole auxilium exercitus, from the lands of Nicholas as well as from his own."). VCH Middlesex 4 (1971): 155-157. Ellis Cat. of Seals in the P.R.O. 2 (1981): 93 (seal of Eleanor, sometime countess of Salisbury dated 1222-The countess standing, wearing a flowing gown and a short mantle, her left hand held to her breast and her right hand extended. To the right, a quatrefoll. Legend: "[SIGIL]LUM ALIENOR' C/MITISSE DE SALESBIR."). Kemp Reading Abbey Cartularies 1 (Camden 4th Ser. 31) (1986): 398. Janet Cooper Oxfordshire Eyre, 1241 (Oxfordshire Rec. Soc. 56) (1989): 44 (lawsuit dated 1241 between heirs of Gilbert de Tillières): Johns Noblewomen, Aristocracy & Power in the 12th Cent. Anglo-Norman Realm (2003): 228. Power Norman Frontier in the 12th & Early 13th Cents. (2004): 518 (Subligney ped.). Dryburgh Cal. of Fine Rolls of the Reign of Henry III 2 (2008): 428, 429, 499, 536.”