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Nicholas de la Beche

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  • Name Nicholas de la Beche 
    Born of Beaumys, Berkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Abt 1 Mar 1345 
    Person ID I7001  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Family Margery de Poynings,   d. 20 Mar 1349, Calais, Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married Bef 1337 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F3018  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “MARGERY DE POYNINGS, married (1st) before 1326 (date of settlement) (as his 3rd wife) EDMUND BACON, Knt., of Oulton, Suffolk, Hatfield Peverel and Gynge Mounteney, Essex, Gresham, Norfolk, Ewelme, Oxfordshire, etc., Knight of the Household, Keeper of Wallingford Castle and Honour, 1311, allegedly son of Robert Bacon, of Baconsthorpe, by daughter of Robert de Hingham, Knt. They had one daughter, Margery. He married (1st) JOAN DE BEAUMONT, widow of Giles de Brewes, Knt. [see CALTHORPE 9], by which marriage he had one daughter, Margaret (wife of William de Kerdeston, Knt., 2nd Lord Kerdeston [see GANT 8]). He married (2nd) ELIZABETH LA WARRE, daughter of John la Warre, Knt., 2nd Lord la Warre, by Joan, daughter of Robert de Grelle (or Grelley), Knt. [see LA WARRE 12 for her ancestry]; she died testate in 1323. He performed military service in Gascony in 1297. The same year he was enfeoffed of the manor of Ewelme, Oxfordshire by his brother, John Bacon. In 1303 he served in Scotland with John de Saint John, Knt. He was present at the Siege of Stirling Castle in 1304. In 1308 he was granted the escheated lands of Robert de Stuteville in Gresham, Norfolk. The same year he and his brother, John Bacon, obtained a license to empark their wood at Gynge Mounteney, Essex. In 1309 he was granted the reversion of the manor of Hatfield Peverel, Essex. He was in the service of Peter de Gavaston, Earl of Cornwall in 1310. In 1314 he accompanied Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Gloucester in Queen Isabel's retinue on an embassy concerning Gascony. The same year he also went on a pilgrimage to Santiago. In 1316 he went to Wales on the king's service. In 1320 he accompanied Edmund of Woodstock, Earl of Kent on an embassy to France. He was on the king's service in Wales with Earl Edmund in 1322. In August 1322 he accompanied Edmund, Earl of Arundel on the Scottish campaign. In 1324 he again went on an embassy with Edmund, Earl of Kent. In 1325 he was sent on an embassy to Jaime, King of Aragon, concerning the proposed marriage between the future Edward III and the Infanta Jolant. The same year he fought in Gascony in the War of Saint-Sardos. In 1326, when Queen Isabel's invasion was threatened, he was empowered to arrest shipping in various Norfolk ports and to superintend the sailing of other vessels to Orwell. In 1334 he was appointed Keeper of the Half Hundred of Lothingland in Suffolk for a year. SIR EDMUND BACON died 6 March 1336. His widow, Margery, married (2nd) before 1337 NICHOLAS DE LA BECHE, Knt., of Beaumys (in Swallowfield), Beche, Binfield, Burghfield, Basildon, Cookham, East and West Compton, Berkshire, Constable of the Tower. They had no issue. SIR NICHOLAS DE LA BECHE died shortly before 1 March 1345. On 30 March 1347 his widow, Margery, was forcibly carried off and married to JOHN DE DALTON, Knt., of Bispham, Lancashire, King's Serjeant-at-arms, son and heir of Robert de Dalton. He fought at the Battle of Crecy in 1346. On 1 May 1347 he was imprisoned in the Tower of London. In October 1348 his lands were declared forfeited. She died in Calais 20 March 1349. SIR JOHN DE DALTON died in 1369.
      Coll. Top. et Gen. 4 (1837): 391 (arms of Sir Edmund Bacon). Hardy Syllabus (in English) of the Dors. Rel. England & Other Kingdoms 1(1869): 355. Rye Short Cal. Feet of Fines for Norfolk 2 (1886): 275. Colls. Hist. Staffs. 14 (1893): 71-72. C.P.R. 1307-1313 (1894): 82, 187. Wrottesley Crécy & Calais (1898): 39, 101, 110, 29. Russell Swallowfield & its Owners (1901): 39-43. VCH Lancaster 4 (1911): 91-97, 97-101; 6 (1911): 100-102. CFR. 2 (1912): 118, 136; 4 (1913): 391, 479, 481-482, 485-486; 5 (1915): 424. Feet of Fines for Essex 2 (1913-28): 110, 111, 171, 228. English Hist. Rev. 37 (1922): 273-274; 74 (1959): 70-89. Farrer Honors & Knights' Fees 3 (1925): 330. Sussex Notes & Oueries 4 (1932): 97-98. VCH Sussex 9 (1937): 139. VCH Cambridge 5 (1973): 4-16. Hockey Reg. of William Edington Bishop of Winchester 1346-13662 (Hampshire Rec. Ser. 8) (1987): 9 (In the early hours of Good Friday, 1347 "shamelessly, with boats and ladders they carried off the noble lady Margaret, widow of Nicholas de la Beche, knight, dragging her from her bedroom to the hall, carrying her half-naked, with the intention of joining her in matrimony to a certain John de Dalton." The perpetrators were "deaf to the oath that she swore" she was contracted to marry Gerard de Lisle. "They carried her off as she shouted and raised a hue and cry in the countryside, and took her to somewhere remote, where she is still detained against the king's peace." "In their violent entry into the manor, they fought those who were trying to prevent the abduction and shamefully killed Michael de Ponynges, uterine brother of Margaret."). Richmond Pastan Fam. in the 1515 Cent. (1990): 47-49. Brault Rolls of Aims Edward I 2 (1997): 23 (arms of Edmund Bacon: Gules, on a chief argent two mullets sable). Trans. Monumental Brass Soc. 16 (1997): 2-25. Dunn Damsels in Distress or Partners in Crime? (2007): 158-159.”

      2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “MARGERY (or MARGARET) BARDOLF, married before 8 June 1298 MICHAEL DE POYNINGS (or PONYNGES), Knt., of Poynings, Crawley, Hangleton, Pyecombe, and Slaugham, Sussex, Wormingford and Tendring, Essex, Hockwold, Norfolk, Bures, Suffolk, etc., Knight of the Shire for Sussex, 1312/3, son and heir of Luke de Poynings, Knt., of Poynings, Crawley, Pyecombe, Slaugham, and Twineham, Sussex, Wormingford, Essex, etc., by his wife, Hawise, widow of Reynold de Vautort. They had two sons, Thomas, Knt., and Michael, and three daughters, Joan, Hawise, and Margery. He was summoned to attend the king on urgent matters in 1294. He had letters of protection granted to him in 1295, he then going to Scotland on the king's service. In 1296 he was enrolled for defence of the coast, as a non-resident knight of Sussex. In 1296 the king ordered an enquiry be made regarding the persons who, during the absence of Michael de Poynings in Scotland on the king's service, broke his park at Slaugham, Sussex, hunted therein, and carried away deer. In 1297 he was summoned for service overseas. In 1299 he was granted letters of protection, he then going with Henry de Percy beyond seas. In 1303 John, Earl of Warenne, requested that Chancellor of England grant him protection and exemption, he then going with the said earl in the Scottish war. He and his wife were summoned to attend the Coronation of King Edward II in 1308. He was granted letters of protection in 1308, he then going to France in the company of John de Warenne, Earl of Surrey. SIR MICHAEL DE POYNINGS was probably killed at the Battle of Bannockburn 24 June 1314. His widow, Margery, presented to the church of Hockwold, Norfolk in 1329. In 1333 the king recovered the right of presentation to the church of Hokewold, Norfolk in the court of King's Bench against her. Margery was living 24 Feb. 1333/4.
      Blomefield Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 2 (1805): 186; 7 (1807): 495. Stapleton De Antiquis Legibus Liber: Cronica Maiorum et Vicecomitum Londoniarum (Camden Soc. 34) (1846): xciii-xciv, xcvi. C.P.R. 1292-1301 (1895): 217. Rye Cal. of Feet of Fines for Suffolk (1900): 122. Copinger Manors of Suffolk 1 (1905): 45-49. Feet of Fines for Essex 2 (1913-1928): 134. Sussex Notes & Queries 4 (1932): 97-98. VCH Sussex 7 (1940): 183, 189, 209, 212, 213n, 279; 9 (1937): 139, 153. C.P. 10 (1945): 659 (sub Poynings). Suffolk Rec. Office, Ipswich Branch: The Iveagh (Phillipps) Suffolk MSS, HD 1538/157/1 (feoffment dated 8 Oct. 1309 by and between John son of Thomas de Bassingboume and Sir Michael de Ponynges, Knt., and wife, Margery, regarding the manor of Bures, Suffolk for £500 of silver sterling, which the grantor had by feoffment of Dame Isabel, formerly wife of Sir Hugh Bardolph, in Bures); HD 1538/1 Vol.1/fol.54 (Isabel, widow of Sir Hugh Bardolf, quitclaims to Sir Michael de Ponyngges, Knt., and his wife Margery her manor in Bures, Suffolk with all its villeins and their families by deed dated 25 March 1313) (available at hap://www.a2a.org.uk/ search/ index.asp)
      Children of Margery Bardolf, by Michael de Poynings, Knt.:
      i. THOMAS DE POYNINGS, Knt. [see next].
      ii. JOAN DE POYNINGS, married THOMAS DE TREGOZ, Knt., 2nd Lord Tregoz, son and heir of Henry de Tregoz, in Lord Tregoz. He was summoned to Parliament, 1318-35. They had one son, Henry, Knt. [3rd Lord Tregoz], and one daughter, Margaret. Banks Baronies in Fee 2 (1843): 146-148 (sub Tregoz). Top. & Gen. 2 (1853): 124-136. Elwes Hist. of the Castles, Mansions & Manors of Western Sussex (1876): 102 (Tregoz ped.). C.P. 12(2) (1959): 25-26 (sub Tregoz).
      Child of Joan de Poynings, by Thomas de Tregoz:
      a. MARGARET DE TREGOZ, married JOHN D'OYLEY, Knt., of Ronton, Staffordshire, Warnham, Sussex, Stoke Doyle, Northamptonshire, and Whatton, Leicestershire. They had one son, Thomas, and one daughter, Joan. Banks Baronies in Fee 2 (1843): 146-148 (sub Tregoz). Top. & Gen. 2 (1853): 124-136. Elwes Hist. of the Castles, Mansions & Manors of Western Sussex (1876): 102 (Tregoz ped). C.P. 12(2) (1959): 26, footnote k (sub Tregoz), 28, footnote i (sub Tregoz).
      iii. HAWISE DE POYNINGS, married (1st) JOHN DE REYDON, of Overbury Hall, Suffolk [see HAVILAND 13]; (2nd) JOHN DE WYSHAM, Knt., of Clifton (in Clifton upon Teme), Worcestershire [see HAVILAND 13].
      iv. MARGERY DE POYNINGS, married (1st) EDMUND BACON, Knt., of Oulton, Suffolk, Hatfield Peverel, Essex, etc. [see MOLEYNS 13]; (2nd) NICHOLAS DE LA BECHE, Knt., of Beaumys (in Swallowfield), Berkshire [see MOLEYNS 13]; (3nd) JOHN DE DALTON, Knt. [see MOLEYNS 13].”