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Robert de Poynings

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  • Name Robert de Poynings 
    Gender Male 
    Died 2 Oct 1446 
    Person ID I6807  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Richard de Poynings,   b. Abt 1355,   d. 25 May 1387, Villalpando, Zamora, Castilla y León, Spain Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 32 years) 
    Mother Isabel Fitz Payn,   d. 11 Apr 1394 
    Family ID F2547  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Eleanor Grey 
    Married Bef 22 Oct 1397 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F3021  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Margaret Squery,   d. 3 Nov 1448 
    Married Bef Jun 1434 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F3022  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “ROBERT POYNINGS (or PONYNGES), Knt., 4th Lord Poynings, Privy Councillor, son and heir, born at Okeford Fitzpaine, Dorset 3 Dec. 1382. He married (1st) before 22 October 1397 ELEANOR GREY, daughter of Reynold Grey, Knt., Lord of Hastings, Wexford, and Ruthin, by his 1st wife, Margaret, daughter of Thomas de Roos, Knt., 4th Lord Roos of Helmsley [see GREY 11 for her ancestry]. They had three sons, Richard, Knt., Robert, Esq., and Edward (died 1484) [Master of Trinity College, Arundel, Sussex, Rector of North Cray, Kent]. He was summoned to Parliament, presumably from 25 August 1404 (certainly from 21 Dec. 1405) to 13 Jan. 1444/5. His wife, Eleanor, was granted a dispensation in 1416 to have mass celebrated in her own chamber. He presented to the churches of Eastwell, Kent, 1416, 1418, 1421, 1427, and 1429, Slaugham, Sussex, 1416, Hockwold, Norfolk, 1421, and Charlton Mackrell, Somerset, 1422 and 1442. He married (2nd) in or before June 1434 MARGARET SQUERY, widow of William Cromer (or Crowmer), Lord Mayor of London (died Jan. 1433/4), and daughter of Thomas Squery, of Westerham, Kent. They had one daughter, Eleanor (wife of Thomas Palmer). SIR ROBERT POYNINGS, 4th Lord Poynings, died testate 2 October 1446. His widow, Margaret, died 3 Nov. 1448.
      Hasted Hist. & Top. Survey of Kent 2 (1797): 141-162; 6 (1798): 86-88. Blomefield Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Noefolk 2 (1805): 186. Blore Hist. & Antiqs. of Rutland 1(2) (1811): 163 (Grey ped.: wife not identified). Tierney Hist. & Antiqs. of the Castle & Town of Arundel 2 (1834): 639. Coll. Top. et Gen. 3 (1836): 257-258 (his seal bearing arms quarterly Poynings and Fitzpayne), 262-264. Sussex Arch. Colls. 15(1863): 1-56. Maclean Hist. of Trigg Minor 1 (1876): chart foll. 683 (wife identified as "Eleanor, dau. of Regin. Lo. Grey of Ruthyn"). Flower Vis. of Yorkshire 1563-4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 244 (Percy ped.: "Robert Lord Poynyngs. = [left blank1"). Weaver Somerset Incumbents (1889): 50. Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 3 (1894): 404 (seal of Robert Poynings, Lord Poynings dated 1412- A shield of arms, couché: quarterly, 1, 4, a barry of six, over all a bendlet [POYNINGS]; 2,3, three lions passant in pale, over all a bendlet [FITZ PAYN]. Crest on a helmet and short mantling, a dragon's head, wings displayed. Badges, dex., a key erect, handle uppermost, surmounted by an antique cown; sin., an unicorn statant. Background replenished with sprigs of foliage). Lewis Pedes Finium; or, Fines Rel. Surrey (Surrey Arch. Soc. Extra Vol. 1) (1894): 227. Genealogist n.s. 19 (1903): 30; n.s. 23 (1907): 26-27, 95, 241. Rede Episc. Reg. of Robert Rede 2 (Sussex Rec. Soc. 11) (1910): 300-301, 324-327. VCH Surrey 3 (1911): 378-381. Salzman Feet of Fines Rel. Sussex 3 (Sussex Rec. Soc. 23) (1916): 248-249, 259-260. Benolte & Cooke Vis. of Kent 15 30-1, 1574 & 1592 1 (H.S.P. 74) (1923): 43 (1574 Vis.) (Crowmer ped.). Budgen Abs. of Sussex Deeds & Docs. (Sussex Rec. Soc. 29) (1924): 90. C.P. 5 (1926): 463-464 (sub FitzPayn); 10 (1945): 663-664 (sub Poynings); 14 (1998): 535-536 (cites Devon Issues of the Exchequer (1837): 265). Salter Boarstall Cartulary (Oxford Hist. Soc. 1st Ser. 88) (1930): 10. Wedgwood Hist. of Parl. 1 (1936): 697-698 (biog. of Robert Poynings). Chichele Reg. of Henry Chichele 3 (Canterbury & York Soc. 46) (1945): 455-456; 4 (Canterbury & York Soc. 47): 138, 142, 161, 172, 203, 236, 244, 254, 267. Paget Baronage of England (1957) 462: 2 (sub Poynings). Emden Biog. Reg. of the Univ. of Oxford 3 (1959): 1512 (biog. of Edward Poynings). Coat of Arms 8 (1965): 194-204. VCH Sussex 2 (1973): 108-109. Ancient Deeds - Ser. B 2 (List & Index Soc. 101) (1974): B.6996. Cal. IPM 17 (1988): 519-520. Court of Common Pleas, CP 40/821, rot 110d (available at http:// www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=1272).”

      2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “RICHARD DE POYNINGS, Knt., 3rd Lord Poynings, 2nd son, born about 1355. He married ISABEL FITZ PAYN, daughter and heiress of Robert Fitz Payn (formerly de Grey), by Elizabeth, daughter of Guy de Bryan [see CODNOR 11.ii for her ancestry]. She was born about 1362 (stated to be thirty years of age 16 Ric. 11 (1392/3)). They had one son, Robert, Knt. [4th Lord Poynings], and one daughter, Joan. He was heir in 1375 to his older brother, Thomas de Poynings, 2nd Lord Poynings. He was heir in 1376-7 to his cousin, William Baud, Knt., by which he inherited the manor of Ruxley, Kent. He was knighted in 1377 by the king before the banquet in Westminster Hall at the Coronation of King Richard II. He was going abroad in the company of John de Arundel in 1377. He presented to the church of Hockwold, Norfolk in 1381, 1382, and 1385. He was summoned to Parliament from 7 Jan. 1382/3 to 3 Sept. 1385. In 1385 he was summoned for service against the Scots. He accompanied John of Gaunt to Spain in 1386. SIR RICHARD DE POYNINGS, 3rd Lord Poynings, died at Villalpando in Leon in Spain 25 May 1387. He left a will dated 10 June 1387, proved 26 Sept. 1387, directing burial in the parish church of Poynings, Sussex, on the right side of the tomb of his brother, Thomas, Lord Poynings. His widow, Isabel, was removed from Court in Jan. 1388. She died 11 April 1394.
      Pole Colls. towards a Desc. of Devon (1791): 286-287. Blomefield Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 2 (1805): 186. Nicolas Testamenta Vetusta 1(1826): 122-123 (will of Richard de Poynings, 3rd Lord Poynings). Ireland Hist. of the County of Kent 4 (1830): 529-530. Rye Cal. of Feet of Fines for Suffolk (1900): 254. Copinger Manors of Suffolk 1 (1905): 45-49. C.P. 10 (1945): 662-663 (sub Poynings) (gives Isabel's mother as Elizabeth, daughter of Guy de Bryan, Knt., of Walwyn's Castle, Pembroke, Torbrian, Devon, and Laugharne, co. Carmarthen, and, in her issue, co-heiress of her brother Guy (de Bryan), Lord Bryan; C.P. 2 (1912): 361-362 shows that this is not possible). Tuck Richard II & the English Nobility (1974): 182.
      Children of Richard de Poynings, Knt., by Isabel Fitz Payn:
      i. ROBERT POYNINGS, Knt., 4th Lord Poynings [see next].
      ii. JOAN POYNINGS, married RICHARD CAMOYS, Knt., of Ingescourt (in Great Milton), Oxfordshire [see CAMOYS 9].”