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Marie of Ponthieu

Female - 1250


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  • Name Marie of Ponthieu 
    Gender Female 
    Died Sep 1250  Abbeville, Somme, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I6630  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Family Simon de Dammartin,   d. 21 Sep 1239 
    Married Sep 1208  Compiègne, Oise, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F2924  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “SIMON DE DAMMARTIN, Count of Aumale, and, in right of his wife, Count of Ponthieu and Montreuil, 2nd son. He married at Compiegne by settlement dated September 1208 MARIE OF PONTHIEU, Countess of Ponthieu and Montreuil (1225), daughter and heiress of Guillaume Talvas II, Count of Ponthieu, by Alix, daughter of Louis VII, King of France [see FRANCE 6.ii for her ancestry]. She was born before 17 Sept. 1199. They had four daughters, Jeanne, Mathilde (wife of Jean de Châtellerault), Philippe (wife successively of Raoul de Lusignan, Count of Eu, Raoul de Coucy, seigneur of Coucy, and Otton II, Count of Guelders), and Marie (wife of Jean II, Count of Roucy). In 1204-6 King Philippe Auguste granted Mortain and Saint-James in Normandy to Count Renaud and his brother, Simon, only to confiscate them once more in 1211. In 1208 his brother, Renaud, Count of Boulogne, gave him 500 livrees of land in Normandy. He fought against King Philippe Auguste at the Battle of Bouvines, after which he was banished from the kingdom and his goods confiscated. In 1221, on the death of his father-in-law, Guillaume, Count of Ponthieu, his lands held in right of his wife were taken. In 1225 Marie obtained a pardon, and resumed the administration of Ponthieu. Simon obtained permission to return to France in 1231. In 1233 Marie was coming to England on pilgrimage. SIMON DE DAMMARTIN, Count of Aurnale, Ponthieu, and Montreuil, died 21 Sept. 1239, and was buried at Valoires Abbey. His widow, Marie, married (2nd) between September 1240 and 15 Dec. 1241 MATHIEU DE MONTMORENCY, seigneur of Attichy, and, in right of his wife, Count of Ponthieu and Montreuil (slain at Mansurah February 1250), son of Mathieu II, seigneur of Montmorency, Constable of France, by his 1st wife, Gertrude, daughter of Raoul II, Count of Soissons. In 1244 Mathieu and his wife, Marie, issued a charter regarding a difference between Corbie Abbey and Jean de Maisnieres, Chev. His widow, Marie, died at Abbeville in September 1250.
      Martene & Durand Veterum scriptorum et monumentorum 1 (1724): 1202 (Marie, Countess of Ponthieu, styled "kinswoman" [consanguinea] by King Louis VIII of France), 1305-1306. L'Art de Vérifier les Dates 2 (1784): 661-663 (sub Comtes de Dammartin), 750-759 (sub Comtes de Ponthieu). Mémoires de la Société des Antiquaires de Normandie 2nd Ser. 6 (1852): 314 (Marie, wife of Simon, Count of Ponthieu, styled "kinswoman" [consanguineam] by King Louis IX of France in charter dated 1233). Guigniaut Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 21(1855): 626-627 (Chronicle of Alberic of Trois Fontaines (sub anno 1239): "... Obiit comes de Pontivi, Simon cujus uxor filia Guillelmi comitis de Pontivo, quatuor relinquens filias, quarum unam duxit rex Castellae de Hispania Fernandus, et filius ejus Alfunsus duxit filiam regis Arragonensis (ex qua genuit Sancium, regem Castellae qui nunc ear); alteram, natu majorem, filius vicecomitis de Castro Araudi; tertiam filius vicecomitis de Augo (dein, illo mortuo, nupsit Radulfo de Couci; tertio vero, Ottoni comiti Gelriae, cui peperit Raynaldum comitem qui nunc est); quartem comes de Roceio (comiti autem de Roceio peperit Johannem comitem de Roceio qui nunc est)"). Teulet Ligettes du Trésor des Charter 2 (1866): 56-57, 62, 185, 195, 199-200 ("Simone de Bolonia comite Pontivi"), 257,281-282 (Maud [de Dammartin], Countess of Boulogne, styled "niece" [nepte] by Simon de Dammartin), 311-312,550-552. Thierry Recueil des Monuments Inédits de l'Histoire du Tiers Etat 4 (1870): 22-23, 26-28. La Gorgue-Rosny Recherches Genialogiques stir ks Comas de Ponthieu, de Boulogne, de Guines & Pays Circonvoisins: Documents Inédits (1877): 12, 10, 41, 44. Delisle Cartulaire Normand (1882): 28. Muller Le Prieuré de Saint-Leu d'Esserent: Cartulaire (1080-1538) (1901): 113-114, 121-122. C.P.R 1232-1247 (1906): 25. Recherches généalogiques sur la Famille des Seigneurs de Nemours 2 (1908): 139. Genealogists' Mag 15 (1965-68): 53-63; 23 (1989): 141-144. Parsons (1977): 42 (The Dammartin descent in l'Art de verifier les dates is badly out of date and must be corrected by use of H. Morainville, "Origine de la maison de Ramerupt-Roucy," BEC 86 (1925) 169-184; Newman Seigneurs de Nesle en Picardie 1:82-83). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): XIV.744c & XV.198. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 3 (1989): 638 (ancestry of Marie de Ponthieu). Power Norman Frontier in the 12th & Early 13th Cents. (2004): 39.
      Child of Simon de Dammartin, by Marie of Ponthieu:
      i. JEANNE (or JUANA) DE DAMMARTIN, Countess of Ponthieu, Montreuil, and Aumak, married [SAINT] FERNANDO III, King of Castile and Leon [see CASTILE 7].”