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Otgive

Female - 1030


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  • Name Otgive  
    Gender Female 
    Died 21 Feb 1030 
    Person ID I6513  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Giselbert,   d. Aft 18 May 1004, Pavia, Lombardia, Italy Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F2870  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Baudouin IV "the Bearded",   b. From 980 to 985,   d. From 29 May 1035 to 30 May 1035  (Age ~ 55 years) 
    Children 
     1. Baudouin V "de l'Isle",   b. Abt 1010,   d. 1 Sep 1067, Lille, Nord, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 57 years)
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F2781  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “BAUDOUIN IV the-Bearded, Count/Marquis of Flanders, 987/988-1035, son and heir, born say 980-985 (minor in 988). He married OTGIVE (or OGIVE), daughter of Giselbert, Count of Vaudrevange/Wallerfangen (in Moselgau) [see Line E, Gen. 8 below for her parentage]. About 987 he was excommunicated for having abandoned his wife. They had one son, Baudouin (V) [Count/Marquis of Flanders]. In 1006 he invaded and took Valenciennes, but was driven out in 1007 by the emperor Heinrich II; he afterwards received Valenciennes as a fief from the emperor. His wife, Otgive, died 21 Feb. 1030. He married (2nd) ___, daughter of Richard II, Duke of Normandy. They had one daughter, Judith (wife of Tostig, Earl of Northumbria, and Welf I, Duke of Bavaria). BAUDOUIN IV, Count/Marquis of Flanders, died 29 (or 30) May 1035, and was buried in the Abbey of Saint-Pierre, Gand.
      Histoire des Comtes de Flandre (1698): 26-31 (author identifies 1st wife Ogine as "file de Gilbert Comte de Luxembourg."). Panckoucke Abregi Chronologique de l’Histoire de Flandre (1762): 28-33. Galopin Historiae Flandricae (1781): 9-10. Oudegherst Annales de Flandre 1 (1789): 200-202, 226. De Smet Recueil des Chroniques de Flandre 1 (1837): 518 (Chronicorum Flandriae sub A.D. 943: "Gislebeto autem Rheni undis submerso, caeterorum vix aliquis fugit, qui non aut trucidaretur aut caperetur. Hoc nuntio infideles regis corde franguntur, et Ludovicus ab Alsatia discedit, et rex et fideles ejus cum ipso gratulantur. Uxorem Gisleberti Gerbergarn, sororem scilicet Ottonis imperatoris, Ludovicus rex Francorum duxit uxorem. Unam vero filiarum ejusdem Gisleberti imperator dedit Bertaldo, duci Bajoariorum: aliam, Ogivam nomine, Balduino comiti Flandriae dedit; ex qua genitus est Balduinus Pulchra Barba. Mortuo Gisleberto, successit ei in ducatu Otto filius ejus, uno anno."), 529 (Chronicorum Flandriae sub A.D. 974: "Balduinus, cognomento Pulchra-Barba, filius Arnulphi comitis Flandriae, uxorem duxit Ogivam, sororem Frederici ducis Brabantiae, filiam Gisleberti ohm ducis, de qua genuit Balduinum Pium."), 549 (Chronicorum Flandriae sub A.D. 1035: "Balduinus Barbatus, gloriosus comes Flandriae, obiit et in monasterio Blandiniensi sepelitur, et Balduinus filius ejus successit."). Kervyn de Volkaersbeke Les Églises de Gand 2 (1838): 218-220. Wauters Table Chronologique des Charter et Diplômes Imprimés 1 (1866): 412, 415-416 (charter of marquis Baudouin and his mother, Susanne, dated 988), 443, 454, 460-461, 465, 470 (letter addressed to Otgive, Countess of Flanders, dated 1019-1030), 476-477, 671. Compte-rendu des Séances de la Commission Royale d'Histoire 5th Ser. 9 (1898): 142-180 (sub Comtes de Flandre). Bled Regestes des Évêques de Thérouanne, 500-1553 1 (1904): 72, 74. Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Karlf des Großen (1935) VIII 38 (error in identification of a second wife), IX 22. Strecker Die Lateinischen Dichter des Deutschen Mittelalters (Monumenta Germaniæ Historica: Die Ottonenzeit 5(1)) (1937): 297-300. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 2 (1984): 5 (sub Flanders); 6 (1978): 128 (sub Luxemburg). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): VIII.114, IX.26, IX.125. Harper-Bill Anglo-Norman Studies XXI (1999): 145-168. Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 301 (Ardenne-Luxembourg ped.). TAG 83 (2008): 116-121.”

      2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “GISELBERT, Count of Vaudrevange/Wallerfangen (in Moselgau). He married an unidentified wife, ___. They had two daughters, Otgive (or Ogive) and Gisele (wife of Raoul, lord of Alost). He occurs in an act dated 996 issued by Bertha, widow of count Volkmar, concerning land in Mutford in the district of Moselgau, which land was ruled by Count Giselbert. He accompanied Emperor Heinrich II to Italy in 1004. He died of wounds received in Pavia after the coronation of, the emperor as king of Italy on 18 May 1004.
      Beyer Urkundenbuch zur Geschichte derjetzt die Preussischen Regierungsbezirke Coblenz und Trier 2 (1865): liv (chart). Jahr-Buch der Gessellsche für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde 5(2) (1893): 40-52. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 6 (1978): 128. Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): VIII.143. Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 301 (Ardenne-Luxembourg ped.). Dengler-Schreiber Kunigunde and Heinrich (2008). TAG 83 (2008): 116-121.
      Child of Count Giselbert, by ___:
      i. OTGIVE (or OGIVE), married BAUDOUIN IV, Count-Marquis of Flanders [see Line B, Gen. 9].”