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1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,†Douglas Richardson (2013):
“HUGH (or HUGUES) DE GOURNAY, seigneur of Gournay-en-Brie and Gaillefontaine, and lord of Houghton, Bedfordshire, Bledlow and Wendover, Buckinghamshire, Caister, Norfolk, Mapledurham, Oxfordshire, etc., son and heir, born about 1091 (of full age in 1112). During his minority, be was raised by King Henry I of England and his lands were administered by Drew de Mouchy his step-father. He married (1st) BEATRICE (or BEATRIX) DE VERMANDOIS, daughter of Hugh le Grand, Crépy, by Adele, daughter and heiress of Herbert IV, Count of Vermandois and Valois [see VERMANDOIS 4 for her ancestry]. They had one son, Hugh (died young). He joined Stephen, Count of Aumale, and others in 1118, in an attempt to place William Clito, son of Robert, Duke of Normandy, on the throne. He seised the castle of Plesssis and ravaged Norman terrritory. King Henry I crushed the revolt at Noyon in 1119, after which he submitted and was pardoned. He appears to have joined King Stephen at the Siege of Shrewsbury in 1138, for which he later rewarded with the manors of Wendover, Buckinghamshire and Houghton Regis, Bedfordshire. His wife, Beatrice, was living in 1144. About 1144 he and his son, Hugh, gave to the church of S. Leu for the soul of Beatrice his wife a rent at Cauvigriy. About 1144 he gave to the church of St. Leu the house of Roger the priest and his sister at Cauvigny. In the period, 1147-55, he witnessed a charter for his nephew, Roger de Mowbray. In 1147 he accompanied King Louis VII of France to the Holy Land. This crusade was unsuccessful and returned in 1149. He married (2nd) before 1162 (date of charter) MILICENT (or MELISENDE) DE COUCY, daughter of Thomas de Coucy (or de Marie), seigneur of Coucy, Marie, de la Fere and Boves, by his 2nd wife, Melisende, daughter and heiress of Guy de Crecy, Châtelain of la Ferte. They had two sons, Gerard and Hugh, and one daughter, Aidieve (wife of Nicholas de Stuteville, of Kimberley, Norfolk). During the revolt of Henry the Young King, Hugh and his son, Hugh, were captured by the rebels, who burned Gournay and extorted ransomes from its burgesses. Hugh's servants in turn plundered royal estates in Suffolk, and his manors of Bledlow and Houghton Regis were taken into royal hands in reprisal. He and his 2nd wife were benefactors of the Abbey of Bec. They founded the Abbey of Gaillefontaine in the period, 1144 64. HUGH DE GOURNAY died in 1181, said to be "very old." His wife, Milicent, survived him.
Moreri le Grand Dictionnaire Historique 1(1725): 310. Du Plessis Histoire de la Ville & des Seigneurs de Coucy (1728): 31, 35, 46. Placitoram in Domo Capitalari Westmonasteriensi Asservatorum Abbrevatio (1811): 79. La Mairie Supp. aux Recherches historiques sur la Ville de Gournay (1844): 7-42. Lipscomb Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 2 (1847): 468. Gurney Rec. of the House of Gournay 1 (1848): 22, 84-127, 754, 763, 779. Delisle Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 13 (1869): 695 (Ex Chronico Alberici Trium-fontium Monachi: "Idem quoque Thomas de Cocy de secunda uxore domina de Bovis genuit Ingelrannum superius nominatum, pattrem Radulphi de Marla, et Robertum Bovensem, virum crudelem, et illam quae data est Hugoni de Gornaio."). Delisle Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 14 (1877): 4 (Genealogia Regum Francorum Tertiae Stirpis: "Letaldus de Marla habuit filiam nomine Adam. Ada filium nomine Thomam de Marla, qui duxit sororem Balduini Comitis Hainoensis; quæ peperit ei duas filias Prædictus Thomas de Marla, dimissa sorore Comitis Balduini, jonxit sibi uxorem cujusdam militis de terra Ambianensi, nomine Milesdendem, quæ peperit ci Lngerlrannum de Marla, et Robertum Bovensem, et filiam nomine matris appellatam, quae maritum habuit Hugonen de Gornai, dominum ejusdem Monamenta Germaniae Histotica SS XIII (1881): 251-256: (Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis: “Predicta Thomas de Marla, dimissa sorore comitis Balduini, iunxit sibi uxorem cuiusdam militis de terra Ambianensi nomine Milesendem, que peperit ei Ingelrannum de Marla et Robertum Bovensem et filiam nomine matris appellatam, que maritum habuit Hugonem de Gornai dominum eiusdein loci."). Müller La Prieuré de Saint-Leu d’Esserent: Cartulaire (1080-1538) (1901): 48-49 (charter of Hugues de Gournay dated c.1144), 49 (charter of Hugues de Goumay dated c.1144). Desc. Catalogue of Ancient Deeds 6 (1915): 279. Delisle & Berger Actes de Henry II 1 (1916): 471-472 (confirmation charter of King Henry Il re. the dower of Milicent, widow of Hugues de Gournay). Bedfordshire Hist. Rec. Soc. 7 (1922): 153-157; 19 (1937): charts fol. pg. 99. Oxfordshire Rec. Soc. 7 (1925): 7-15. C.R.R. 6 (1932): 272-273. Jenkins Cartulary of Missenden Abbey 1(1938): 164-165, 188; 3 (1962): 13, 15, 16. Early Yorkshire Charters 8 (1949): 6-7. Chibnall Select Docs. of the English Lands of the Abbey of Bec (Camden 3rd Ser. 73) (1951): 7-8, 16. Clay Early Yorkshire Charters 9 (1952): 42, 45-47. Paget (1957), 266: 1-4 (sub Gurnay). Chaurand Thomas de Mark, Sire de Coucy (1963). Greenway Charters of the Honour of Mowbray, 1107-1191 (1972): 142 (charter dated 1147/55 issued by Roger de Mowbray witnessed by "Hugone de Gurnai avunculo meo [my uncle]"). Barthelemy Les Deux Ages de la Seigneurie Banale (1984): 56-57 (Coucy ped.) Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 3(1) (1989): 55 (sub Vermandois). Winter Descendants of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): XII.21, XII.349. Power Norman Frontier in the 12th & Early 13th Cents. (2004): 355-357. Gobineau Histoire d'Ottar Jarl et de sa Descendance (2006).â€
2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,†Douglas Richardson (2013):
“HUGUES LE GRAND (also known as Hugues brother of the King), Count of Crépy, younger son, born about 1057. He married about 1080 ADELE DE VERMANDOIS, Countess of Vermandois, daughter of Heribert IV, Count of Vermandois, by Adele, daughter of Raoul III, Count of Valois. They had four sons, Raoul (I) [Count of Vermandois, Count of Peronne], Henri [seigneur of Chaumont-en-Vexin], Simon [Bishop of Noyon], and Guillaume, and five daughters, Mahaut, Beatrice (or Beatrix) (wife of Hugues, seigneur of Gournay-en-Brie), Isabel (or Elizabeth), Constance (wife of Geoffroi de la Ferté-Ancoul), and Agnes (wife of Bonifacio I, Marquis of Vasto). In 1079, as "count Hugh brother of the king" [comitis Hugonis fratris regis], he witnessed his brother King Philippe I's charter confirming the foundation of St.-Quintin Beauvais. In 1081, as "Hugone, Regis fratre, de Crispeio," he and his wife, Adèle, witnessed the foundation charter of Hugues, Count of Dammartin for the Priory of Saint-Leu of Esserent. He witnessed a charter of his brother, King Philippe I, in 1082 as "Hugues, Count of Crépy." HUGUES-LE-GRAND, Count of Crépy, was wounded at the Battle of Heraclea in Sept. 1101, and died at Tarsus in Cilicia 18 October 1101. He was buried in the Cathedral of St. Paul in Tarsus. His widow, Adèle, married (2nd) before 1104 (as his 1st wife) RENAUD II, seigneur of Clermont, afterwards Count of Clermont-en-Beauvaisis, Châtelain of Creil, and, in right of his 1st wife, Count of Vermandois [see CLERMONT 2], son and heir of Hugues de Clermont, seigneur of Clermont-en-Beauvaisis, Breuil-le-Vert, Creil, Luzarches, and Mouchy-Saint-Elou, by Marguerite, daughter of Hildouin (or Hellouin) II, Count of Montdidier [see CLERMONT 1 for his ancestry]. He was born about 1085. They had one daughter, Marguerite (wife of Charles le Bon, Count of Flanders, Hugues II Candavène, Count of Saint Pol, and Baudouin d'Encre). Adèle, Countess of Vermandois, died 28 September, between 1120 and 1124. Renaud married (2nd) CLEMENCE OF BAR, daughter of Renaud I, Count of Bar-le-Duc, by Gisèle, daughter of Gérard, Count of Vaudémont. They had seven sons, Raoul (I) le Roux [Count of Clermont, Constable of France], Simon, Chev., Etienne, Guy, Renaud, Hugues [Dean of Metz, Abbot of Saint-Germer, Saint-Lucien, and Cluny], and Gautier, and three daughters, Marguerite (wife of Guy III de Senlis, seigneur of Chantilly, Boutillier of France), Mahaut (or Mathilde), and Comtesse (wife of Rogues de la Tournelle). In 1152 he confirmed the gifts of his parents, Hugues and Marguerite, and Hugh and Richard, Earls of Chester, to St.-Leu d'Esserent. RENAUD II, Count of Clermont-en-Beauvaisis, died sometime before 1162. His widow, Clemence, married (3rd) THIBAUT III DE NANTEUIL, seigneur of Nanteuil-le-Haudouin and Crépy, son and heir of Thibaut II, seigneur of Nanteuil-le-Haudouin and Crépy, by his 1st wife, Mathilde. They had three sons, Philippe [seigneur of Nanteuil-le-Haudouin], Guy [seigneur of Bouillancy], and Gautier (or Gaucher). THIBAUT III DE NANTEUIL died 20 Jan. 1183. His widow, Clemence, was living in 1185.
Annales Ordnis S. Benedicti occidentalium monachorum patriarcha 5 (1713): 95 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1075; charter witnessed by "Hugues brother of the king" [Hugonis fratris regis].) Anselme Hist. de la Maison Royale de France (1713): 35 ("Adele, Comtesse de Vermandois, de Crespy & de Valois, épousa en premieres noces en 1077, Hugues de France, dit le Grand, Comte de Vermandois, dont is posterité sera traitée au Chapitre 18. de cette Histoire, & prit une seconde alliance avec Renaud II. du nom, Comte de Clermont en Beauvoisis. File vivoit encore l'an 1118, comme témoigne une Charte de Picuré de Crespy.â€) Moreri Grand Dictionnaire Historique 1 (1725): 310 ("Alix, dite aussi Adele, comtesse de Crêpi & de valois, fille de Raoul II. Comte de Crêpi & de Valois, & d'Alix comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube, sa premiere femme & sæur du B. Simon comte de Crêpi, dont le P. dom Luc d'Achery, Benedictin, a publié is vie, épousa 1o. Herbert, IV. du nom, comte de Vermandois. 2o. Thibaud III. comte de Champagne & de Brie. Elle eut d'Herbert, Alix comtesse de Vermandois, de Valois & de Crêpi, qui ports toutes ses terres a Hugues de France, surnomme le Grand, fils d'Henry I. & tige des seconds comtes de Vermandois. Après le mort de ce prince, arrivée dans le Levant l'an 1102. elle se remaria 3o. a Renaud II. comte de Clermont en Beauvaisis. Une charte du prieuré de Crêpi temoigne qu'elle vivoit encore l'an 1118."). Hardouin Opera Varia (1733): 612 (sub Antigua Numismata: Hugh styled "brother of the king" [frater Regis] in charter dated 1067; in charter of King Philippe I dated 1075, charter is witnessed by "domni Hugonis fratris Regis Francorum"). Gallia Christiana 10 (1751): 207 (letter of Hugh Bishop of Senlis to the Abbot of Crépy dated c.1095; letter mentions "domni Hugonis comitis de Crispeio"), 246-247 (charter of King Philippe I dated 1079; charter witnessed by "comitis Hugonis fratris Regis"), 248 (charter of Guy, Bishop of Beauvais for church of Esserens dated 1081; charter names "Philippo rege & Hugone regis fratre de Crispeio & ejus uxore Adela" and is witnessed by "Hugo de Crispeio" and "Adelae uxoris Hugonis de Crispeio."). Carlier Histoire du Duché de Valois 1 (1764): 346-352 ("Hugues le Grand commença à prendre la qualité de Comté de Crépy, avant le fin du onzième siècle. Elle continua d'occuper le château de Crépy, dont elle se qualifioit Dame & Comtesse. Damien de Templeux cite un titre postèrieur à la morte de Hugues le Grand, clans lequel elle se nomme Comitissa Crispeii."). L’Art de Vérifier les Dates (1770): 652 (sub Comtes de Vermandois: "Adelaide et Hugues le Grant Ella épousa, entre l'an 1082 & l’an 1090, & non pas l'an 1102, comme on l'a dit ailleurs, Hugues le Grand, 2d fils de Henri I, Roi de France. L'an 1096, Hugues marcha, à la tête des Francois, à la conquête de la Terre-Sainte. S'étant avancé des premiers, avec peu de suite, jusqu'à Durazzo, ville de l'Empire Grec, pour u attendre la reste de l'armée, le Gouverneur du pays se faisit de lui & des principaux Seigneurs que l’accompagnoient, & les enjoya prisonniers a l'Empereur Alexis Comnene … Hugues perdit sue la route plus de 50000 hommes, dans les différents attaques que les Infideles lui livrerent en Asie. Lui-même ayant reçu plusiers blessures dans la derniere, se sauva avec peine à Tarse en Cilicie, où il mourut le 18 Octobre de ran 1102, laissant de son épouse, Raoul, son successeur, Simon, Evêque de Noyon, qui fut le premier de son siege décoré du titre de Comte & Pair, Henri, qui fit la branche des Seigneurs de Chaumont en Vexin, Mahaud, femme de Raoul, tige des anciens Seigneurs de Beaugenci, N. femme de Boniface, Marquis en Italie, & 2 autres files. Adélaïde, apres la morte du Comte Hugues, son époux, se remaria a Renaud II, Comte de Clermont en Beauvoisis.). Colliette Mémoires pour servir d l'Histoire ... de la Province du Vermandois 2 (1772): 108-109 (undated charter of "Adela venerabilis Viromanduorum comitissa" to the Abbey of St-Quintin of Beauvais regarding a prebend in the church of St.-Quintin, Vermandois, charter granted for the anniversary of her husband, Hugonis, and herself, and her children; charter granted with consent of her sons, Raoul and Simon). Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 15 (1808): 85, footnote e. Notice sur Raoul de Caen et Robert le Moine (Coll. des Memoires rel. à l'Histoire de France) (1825): 361 (sub Robert le Moine: Guillaume, Vicomte of Melun, styled 'kinsman" [French word, parent] of Hugues le Grand.). Courcelles Histoire généalogique et héraldique des Pairs de France 5 (1825): 7 (Guillaume I, vicomte de Melun, en 1084, qualifié cousin de Hugues le Grand, comte de Vermandois, par le moine Robert en son Histoire de is Terre Sainte, où Guillaume I avait accompagné ce prince."). Migne Orderici Vitalis (Patrologiae Cursus Completus 188) (1855): 515 (Orderici Vitalis: "Henricus autem, Francorum rex, Berttadam, Julii Claudii regis Russiæ filiam, uxorem duxit, quæ Philippum, et Hugonem Magnum, Crispeii comitem, peperit."), 657 ("Eodem anno [1096], Hugo Crispeii comes Radulfo et Henrico, filiis suis, terrain suam commisit, et Ysabel filiam suam Rodberto de Mellento comiti dedit, et pregre proficiscens, secum noble agmen Francorum adduxit"). Mémoire de la Société academique d'Archéologie, Sciences & Arts du Département de l’Oise 4(2) (1860): 346-347 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1069; charter witnessed by "Hugh brother of the king" [Hugonis fratris Regis]). Tardif Monuments Historiques (Inv. & Docs. publiées par Ordre de l'Empereur) (1866): 187 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1082; charter witnessed by "Hugh, Count of Crépy" [Hugonis Crispeii comitis]). Delisle Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 14 (1877): 7 (Genealogia Regum Francorum Tertiae Stirpis: "Secundarn filiam præfati Comitis Helduini de Rameruth, dictam Margaretam, duxit Hugo Comes de Claromonte, de qua nati sunt Guido dictus Qui-non-dormit, et Hugo Paper, et Comes Rainaldus, et sorores eorum. Rainaldus duxit Adelidem Comitissam Viromandensium, defuncto priore viro suo, scilicet Hugone Magno, quæ peperit ei filiam Margaretam, quam duxit Comes Karolus Flandriæ; quo mortuo, tradita est Comiti Sancti-Pauli Hugoni, qui dictus est Campus-avenæ. Prædictus Rainaldus, defuncta Adelide, duxit Comitissam de Dammartin, filiam Comitis de Rainaldi de Monzuns, de qua genuit Guidonem, et Rainaldum, et Hugonem archidiaconum Metensem, et Galterum, cum aliis utriusque sexus. Unda sororum Comitis Rainaldi nupsit in Anglia Corniti Hugoni de Cestre; alteram duxit Gislebertus filius Richardi Anglici; tertiam copulavit sibi Matthæus Comes de Bellomonte, de qua genuit alterum Matthæum Comitem, et fratrem ejus, et filias."). Lépinois Recherches historiques et critiques sur l'ancient Comté et les Comtes de Clermont en Beauvoisis (1877). Mémoires de la Société Académique d'Archéologie, Sciences & Arts du Département de l’Oise, Beauvais 10 (1877): 18-25 (biog. of Renaud II Count of Clermont) & 21, footnote 1 ["D. Brial, s'étayant sur ces mots de la Généalogie des rois de is troisième race: Rainaldus defuncta Adelide, duxit comitissam da Dammartin (Hist. de France, XIV, 7), pense que Clemence était veuve du comte de Dammatin lors de son mariage avec Renaud de Clermont. L'Art de vérifier les dates, le P. Anselme (Hist. généal., II, 268), A. Duchesne (Hist. de la maison de Bar), disent au contraire que Clémence ne devint comtesse de Dammatin qu'après Is mort de Renaud. L'opinion de D. Brial est confirmée par une charte sans date, mais parfaitement authentique, par laquelle Clemence, comtesse de Dammartin, et Guy, son fils, approuvaient la donation d'un bois faite a l'abbaye de Chaalis par Gautier de Alneto, leur sénéchal, en presence de Renaud, seigneur de Clermont (arch. de l'Oise: Fonds de Chaalis, charmant petite charte avec sceau de la comtesse, assez frustre, mais sur lequel on lit distinctement Artini corn. Guy de Dammartin, fils de Clémence et de Lancelin, comte de Dammartin, n'est pas mentionné dans l'Art de vérifier les dates. II est probable qu'il mourut jeune, car on ne connaît aucun acte de lui comme comte de Dammartin."1. Academy 15 (1879): 457-458 (letter of Bishop Ivo dated at beginning of A.D. 1096: "Ivo, Dei gratia Carnotensis episcopus, clericis Mellentis … Perlatum est ad aures nostras quod Mellentinus comes ducere velit in uxorem filiam Hugonis Crispeiensis comitis; quod fieri non sinit concors descretorum et canonum sanctio, dicens: (Conjunctiones consanguineorum fleri prohibemus). Horum autem consanguinitas nec ignota est, nec remota, sicut testantur et probare parati sunt praeclari viri de eadem sati prosapia. Dicunt enim quia Gualterius Albus genuit matrem Gualeranni comitis, qui genuit matrem Roberti comitis. Item supradictus Gualterius genuit Radulphum pattem alterius Radulfi, qui genuit Vermandensem comitissam, ex qua nata est uxor comitis Hugonis, cujus filiam nunc ducere vult Mellentinus comes."). Monumenta Germaniae Historica Scriptorum 13 (1881): 253 (Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis: "Nunc ad Hugonem Magnum revertamur. Hugo cognomento Magnus, frater Philippi regis Francorum, de Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium genuit Radulfum comitem Veromandie et Henricum de Chauni et Simonem episcopum Noviomensem et filias. De quarum una Bonefacius marchio genuit Bonefacium archidiaconum Noviomensem et filios et alias; quarem mar nupsit Guilelmo de Monte-pessulano. Secunda filia Hugonis Magni ex Radulfo de Baugenci peperit Simonem eiusdem loci principem. Tercia filia ex Ioifrido de Firmitate-Galceri genuit uxorem Simonis de Oisiaco. Quarta filia nupsit comiti de Meslent, cui peperit filios, quorum unus successit patri in comitatu, alter veto comitatem tenuit de Cirecestre."), 257 (De Genere Comitum Flandrensium Notæ Parisienses: "Comes Herbertus genuit Odonem et Adelam sororem. Odo fuit fatuus et indiscretus. Barones Viromandenses rogaverunt regem, ut Adelarn daret Hugoni le Magne, fratri eiusdem regis; quod factum est. De predicto comite Hugone et predicta Adela uxore sua exivit comes Radulfus, Simon Noviomensis episcopus, dominus Henricus de Chaumont et quatuor filie; de quibus quidam marchio Lumbardie unam habuit, secundam dominus Baugenciaci, tertiam comes Mellenti, quartam comes Garentie. Hugone autem comite mortuo, comes de Claro-monte duxit Adelam comitissam in uxorem et ex ea unam filiam habuit. Comes siquidem Carolus Flandrie cum illa fills matrimonium contraxit. Defuncto autem Carob, Hugo Champdaveine relictam ipsius Carob in uxorem accepit, qui fuit comes Sancti Pauli ... et post decessum Hugonis comitis Sancti Pauli dominus Balduinus de Encra relictam ipsius Hugonis accepit in uxorem ... Comes Hugo Ii Maines habuit duos filiois, comitem Radulfum Viromandensem primogenitum et comitem Henricum, et quatuor filios; primogenitam habuit dominus Baugenciaco, secundam habuit Bonefacius marquesius Italie; tertiam comes de Warennes, quartam comes de Mellento."). Merlet Lettres de Saint Ives: Evéque de Chartres (1885): 86-87. Savio Il Marchese Bonifacio del Vasto (1887): 11-15, 16 (ped.), 94,97. Bruel Recueil des Chartes de l'Abbeye de Cluny 5 (Coll. de Docs. inédits sur l'Histoire de France 1s, Ser.) (1894): 421-422 (charter dated c.1140 of Pierre, Abbot of Cluny, names Count Raoul of Perrone, son of Hugues le Grand, brother of King Philippe I, great friend and benefactor [Comes Rodulfus de Perrona, filius Hugonis magni, fratris Philippe regis Francorum, magnus amicus et benefactor). Muller La Prieuré de Saint-Leu d'Esserent: Cartulaire (1080-1538) (1901): 1-4 (charter of Hugues, Count of Dammartin dated 1081), 29-30. Depoin Cartulaire de l'Abbaye de Saint-Martin de Pontoise 4 (1904): 382. Morel Cartulaire de l'Abbaye de Saint-Corneille de Compiègne 1 (1904): 70-71 (charter of Adèle Countess of Vermandois granted with consent of her sons, Raoul, Henri, and Simon), 71-72 (confirmation charter dated 1114 of Adele, Countess of Vermandois, and her sons, Count Raoul and Henri), 7576 (charter dated 1115 of Renaud, Count of Clermont, charter granted with consent of his wife, Countess Adèle) (Editor's note: Il est à remarquer que is comtesse Adèle de Vermandois, veuve d'Hugues le Grand, mort à la Croisade, le 18 octobre 1102, puis remariée a Renaud, comte de Clermont, est, en cette charte, designée comme ayant été fiancée a Beaudouin d'Ené (Cf. Carlier, Hist. du Valois, t. I, p. 352). Son union avec Renaud serait done son troisième mariage, si les propositions antérieures ne sont pas restées a l'état de simples fiançailles. Elle donna deux fois son approbation à la restitution faite by Baudouin et Raoul. La premiere fois, elle était fiancée a Baudouin d'Ené. La second fois, ce fut après son mariage avec Renaud, comte de Clermont.). Prou Recueil des Actes de Philippe Roi de France (1059-1108) (1908): cxxxv (Souscriptions des frères du roi. Les frères du roi, Robert et Hugues ont souscrit quelques diplômes royaux … Quant à la souscription d'Hugues, on la rencontre de 1067 à 1082. Dan un diplôme de 1076 on lui a donné le surnom de 'Grand', que les historiens lui ont conservé. II est ordinairement qualifié simplement frère du roi; mais un diplôme de janvier 1079 fait précéder son nom do titre de comte; il était devenu en effet comte de Vermandois par mariage avec la fille d'Herbert IV.), cxciii, note 1; cxciv, note 1; 137-139 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1070; charter witnessed by "Hugues brother of the king" (Hugonis fratris regis].), 144-145 (charter of King Philippe I dated 1071; charter witnessed by "Hugo, frater regis.â€), 192-193 (charter of King Philippe I dated 1075; charter witnessed by "Hugonis, fratris regis."), 197-199 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1075; charter witnessed by "domni Hugonis, fratris regis Francorum"), 213-221 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1076; charter witnessed by "Hugoni magni, fratris Philipi regisâ€), 242-245 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1079; charter witnessed by "comitis Hugoni, fratris regis"), 264-266 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1080; charter witnessed by "Hugoni, regis fratre, de Crispeo et ejus uxoreâ€), 271-272 (charter of King Philippe I dated 1082; charter witnessed by Hugonis, Crispeii comitis), 272-273 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1082; charter witnessed by "Hugonis, fratris Regis"), 333-337 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1094; charter witnessed by "Hugonis, fratris Philippi regis"), 442. Orton Early Hist. of the House of Savoy (1912):210. Brandenburg Die Nachkommen Kant des Green (1935) XI 2, Teil II XII 386. C.P. 12(1) (1953): 496. Seversmith Colonial Fams. of Long Island, New York & Connecticut 5 (1958): 2475-2477. Hagenmeyer Chronologie de la première Croisade, 1094-1100 (1973): 35 (letter of Hugues le Grand to Emperor Alexis Comnène dated 1096), 41, 46, 70, 86, 178, 182. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 2 (1984): 11 (ancestry of Hugues de France), 3(1) (1984): 49 (sub Vermandois), 55 (sub Vermandois). Winter Descs. of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): XI:17, XI.58, XII.20-XII.28. Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 297 (chart), 308 (Vermandois ped.). Online resource: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet8.html#R1.
Children of Hugues le Grand, by Adele de Vermandois:
i. BEATRICE (or BEATRIX) DE VERMANDOIS, married HUGH DE GOURNAY, seigneur of Gournay-en-Brie [see GOURNAY 3].
ii. ISABEL (or ELIZABETH) DE VERMANDOIS [see next].â€
3. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,†Douglas Richardson (2013):
“GERARD DE GOURNAY, of Caister, Norfolk, seigneur of Gournay-en-Brie, la Ferte-en-Brie, and Gaillefontaine, founder of Lessingham Priory, Norfolk, son and heir. He married before 1091 EDIVA (or EDEVA) DE WARENNE, daughter of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey, by Gundred, sister of Gerbod, Earl of Chester. Her maritagium included the manor of Mapledurham, Oxfordshire. They had one son, Hugh, and one daughter, Gundred (wife of Nele [or Nigel] de Mowbray). He and his father witnessed the foundation charter of Holy Trinity Caen in 1082 issued by King William the Conqueror. In 1090, he stood by King William Rufus against Duke Robert, and, on their reconciliation, his allegiance and castles in Normandy were transferred to Duke Robert. He and his mother confirmed all of his father's gifts to Bec Abbey. He accompanied Robert, Duke of Normandy, on a crusade in 1096, and was with Bohemond in the advance from Nice in Bythinia. At an unknown date, he gave Lessingham, Norfolk to Bec Abbey. GERARD DE GOURNAY was living in 1104, and is said to have died on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem. His widow, Ediva, married (2nd) DREW DE MOUCHY (living 1131), seigneur of Mouchy-le-Chatel, canton de Noailes (Oise). They had one son, Drew.
Note: Gurney Rec. of the House of Gournay (): 286-289, 292-293, 776-777 [author alleges that Gerard de Gournay and his wife, Ediva, had a younger son, Walter de Gournay (living 1150), ancestor of the Gurnay family of Norfolk. Such an individual existed but he had no association in the records with the senior branch of the Gournay family. Rather, it appears that Walter was closely related to a Galiena de Gournay, born say 1120, living c. 1170, wife of Manasser de Dammartin (died 1178/9), of Mendlesham and Cotton, Suffolk, Norton Mandeville, Essex, etc. Surviving records show that Manasser de Dammartin enfeoffed Walter de Gumay with a 1/4 knight's fee in Suffolk during the Civil War between King Stephen and Empress Maud. In 1150 Walter de Gournay witnessed a charter to Missenden Abbey for Manasser and Galiena. Charter evidence proves that Galiena was the granddaughter of an unplaced William de Gumay, of Addington, Kent, whose gift to the see of Rochester she confirmed by her own undated charter. Given these facts, it is doubtful that Walter de Gournay was the son of Gerard de Gournay as alleged [see Hasted 4 (1798): 544-545; Copinger Manors of Suffolk 3 (1909): 277-278; Lewis C. Loyd and Doris M. Stenton, eds. Sir Christopher Hatton's Book of Seals (1958): 229-230, 239-240; VCH Essex, 4 (1956): 151-152; Genealogist, 15 (1965): 53-63 (article on Dammartin family); Jenkins Cartulary of Missenden Abbey, 1: 70-75; Gervers Cartulary of the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem in England: Secunda Camera/ Essex 1 (Recs. of Social & Econ. Hist. n.s. 6) (1982): 216.].
Placitorum in Domo Capitulari Westmonasteriensi Asservatorum Abbrevatio (1811): 79. La Mairie Supp. aux Recherches historiques sur la Ville de Gournay (1844): 7-42. Lipscomb Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 2 (1847): 468. Gurney Rec. of House of Gournay 1 (1848): 22 (chart), 63-72. Delisle & Berger Actes de Henry ll 1 (1916): 471-472. Bedfordshire Historical Rec. Soc. 7 (1922): 153-157; 19 (1937): charts fol. pg. 99. Oxfordshire Record Society 7 (1925): 7-15. C.R.R. 6 (1932): 272-273. Early Yorkshire Charters 8 (1949): 6-7. Paget (1957), 266: 1-4 (sub Gurnay); 569:1 (sub Warren). Power Norman Frontier in the 12th & Early 13th Cents. (2004): 355-357. Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 315 (Warenne ped.).â€
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