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Ralph de Warenne

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  • Name Ralph de Warenne 
    Gender Male 
    Person ID I6459  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father William de Warenne,   d. 11 May 1138 
    Mother Isabel or Elizabeth de Vermandois,   d. From 13 Feb 1147 to 17 Feb 1147 
    Married Aft 1118 
    Family ID F2755  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “ISABEL (or ELIZABETH) DE VERMANDOIS, married (1st) in early 1096 ROBERT OF MEULAN (or DE BEAUMONT), Knt.,* Count of Meulan, seigneur of Beaumont, Pont-Audemer, Brionne, and Vatteville (all in Normandy), son and heir of Roger de Beaumont, seigneur of Pont Audemer, Brionne, la Haye-Aubrée, Sahuz, Tourville, Vieilles, etc., chatelain of Beaumont-le-Roger, by Adeline (or Aline), daughter of Waleran (or Galeran) [I], Count of Meulan. He was born about 1046. They had three sons, Waleran (or Galeran) [II] [Count of Meulan, Earl of Worcester], Robert, Knt. [1st Earl of Leicester], and Hugh [said to be Earl of Bedford], and five daughters, including Adeline (wife of Hugues IV, seigneur of Montfort-sur-Risle), Aubrey (wife of Hugues II, seigneur of Châteauneuf), Maud, and Isabel (or Elizabeth). When he was very young, he accompanied William, Duke of Normandy [future King William], to England and distinguished himself at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. He subsequently received large grants of land in Warwickshire, with smaller holdings in Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, and Wiltshire. Sometime in the period, 1066-77, Robert and his father, Roger, attested a royal confirmation for St.-Etienne, Caen. As "Robert de Beaumont," he witnessed a charter of Eudes, Bishop of Bayeux [half-brother of King William the Conqueror] dated probably in 1079. In 1080 he and his father were present at the king's court in Normandy. Robert became Count of Meulan about autumn 1080, following the death of his maternal uncle, Hugues II, Count of Meulan. As "Robert, Count of Meulan," he attested a charter of King Philippe I of France dated 6 Jan. 1082 following the Christmas court of King Philippe I in 1081. He was back at the Norman ducal court on 5 Sept. 1082, where he joined his father and brother as witnesses to a suit adjudicated in the presence of King William the Conqueror. About 1088 he quarreled with Duke Robert of Normandy about the castellanship of Brionne, in consequence of the exchange of Brionne for Ivry made by his father. He was present at the ducal court in 1087, 1088, 1089, 1091, and on three further occasions during the early 1090s. In 1097, when King William Rufus invaded France, he admitted him to his castle of Meulan. He was present at the king's death in 1100. On the accession of King Henry I, he supported Henry in the general rising which followed and became his trusted counsellor. On the death of Ives de Grandmesnil on Crusade, he retained his estates, which Ives had mortgaged to him about 1102. Thereby he acquired one-quarter of the town of Leicester, the whole of which was later granted to him by the king. After obtaining the whole town of Leicester, he is said to have become Earl of Leicester, but being already Count of Meulan, he was never so styled. In 1103 he was dispatched by King Henry on a mission to Normandy. The same year he betrothed his infant daughter to Amaury, youngest son of Simon de Montfort, as part of a treaty to end conflicts amongst the "warlike marchers." In 1104 he was one of the Norman barons who adhered to King Henry on his arrival in Normandy. He was present in the king's army at the Battle of Tenchebrai in 1106. In 1110 he was besieged at Meulan by King Louis VI, who took the castle by storm. In the following year he retaliated by a raid on Paris, which he plundered. In 1112 he gave the manor of Chisenbury, Wiltshire for the kitchen of the monks of Bec Abbey. ROBERT OF MEULAN, Count of Meulan, died 5 June 1118, and was buried in the chapter-house of the Abbey of St.-Pierre, Preaux. His widow, Isabel, married (2nd) WILLIAM DE WARENNE, 2nd Earl of Surrey (usually styled Earl of Warenne), son and heir of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey, by his 1st wife, Gundred, sister of Gerbod the Fleming, Earl of Chester. They had three sons, William [3rd Earl of Surrey], Ralph, and Reynold, and two daughters, Ada and Gundred. In 1090 he was among those fighting in Normandy against Robert de Belleme who was supported by Duke Robert. He witnessed three charters of the king at Windsor in Sept. 1101. In autumn 1101 he accompanied Duke Robert to Normandy, supporting him against the king, and was deprived of his inheritance in England. In 1103, however, as a result of the duke's intercession, he was restored to the earldom of Surrey by the king. In 1106 he accompanied the king to Normandy, and commanded a division of his army at the Battle of Tinchebrai. In 1109 he was present at a council held at Nottingham. In 1110 he was with the king at Dover, becoming a surety for the performance of the treaty with Robert, Count of Flanders. In 1111 he was one of the optimates who acted in a judicial capacity in a plea in Normandy; about that time he was given the castle of Saint-Saens by the king, which had been forfeited by Elias de Saint-Saens. In 1119 he commanded a division at the Battle of Brémule. In 1131 he was present a the council at Northampton. He was one of the earls present at the death of King Henry I 1 Dec. 1135. The same month he was given the administration of the region of Rouen and the pays de Caux. He was present at the court of King Stephen at Easter 1136. William de Warenne, 2nd Earl of Surrey, died 11 May 1138, and was buried at his father's feet in the chapter-house at Lewes, Sussex. His widow, Isabel, was living c.1138. She died 13 (or 17) February, sometime before June 1147, when her son, William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey, left on crusade.
      (* The latest datable document that Robert attests as "Robert de Beaumont" is a charter of King William the Conqueror for Lessay dated 14 July 1080. Robert acquired the county of Meulan shortly thereafter and thenceforth always attested with his comital title [see Vaughn Anselm of Bec & Robert of Meulan (1987): 88]. There is no evidence that either Robert or his male descendants used the name "de Beaumont" after the year 1082, when Robert first occurs as Robert, Count of Meulan.)
      Baker Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 1 (1822-30): 350 (Leicester ped.), 414 (Mellent-Newburgh ped.), 563 (Beaumont-Quincy ped.). Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 5 (1825): 49-51 (two undated charters of William, 2nd Earl of Warenne to Castleacre Priory), 51 (undated charter of W[illiam] Earl of Warenne and Countess Isabel his wife, and their sons, William and Ralph, to Castleacre Priory), 51 (undated charter of Isabel, Countess of Warenne, to Osmund le Despenser); 6(2) (1846): 1113 (charter of William de Warenne and his wife, Isabel, and their sons, William and Ralph, to Bellencombe Priory dated 1135; charter names Isabel's son, Waleran, Count of Meulan). Taylor Annals of St. Mary Overy (1833): 91 (undated charter of William de Warenne and Countess Isabel his wife to the Monastery of St. Mary de Overy). Extracta e Variis Cronicis Scocie (1842): 70 ([Isabel/Elizabeth de Vermandois] sister of Raoul, Count of Peronne, and mother of Robert, Earl of Leicester, Waleran, Count of Meulan, and Ada de Warenne, styled "kinswoman" of King Louis [VII] of France [regis Francorum Ludouici consanguinea]). Guilmeth Histoire de la Ville et des Environs d’Elbeuf (1842): 393-467. Arch. Jour. 3 (1847): 1-26 (re. parentage of Gundred, wife of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey). Stevenson Chronicon Monasterii de Abington 2 (Roll Series 2) (1858): 102-103 (charter of Robert, Count of Meulan). Sussex Arch. Colls. 11 (1859): 84 (Warenne ped.). Delisle & Passy Mémoires et Notes de M. Auguste le Prevost 2 (1864): 491 (charter of Morin du Pin granted with consent of the Count of Meulan and Countess Elisabeth). Delisle Rouleaux des Morts du IXe au XVe Siècle (1866): 288-289. Thompson Essay on English Municipal Hist. (1867): 38 (charter of Robert, Count of Meulan). Somménil Chronicon Valassense (1868):34-35. Coll Archaeologica 2 (1871):30-41. Academy 15 (1879): 457-458 (Letter of Bishop Ivo dated at beginning of A.D. 1096: "Ivo, Dei gratia Camotensis episcopus, clericis Mellentis Perlatum est ad aures nostras quod Mellentinus comes ducere velit in uxorem filiam Hugonis Crispeiensis comitis; quod fieri non sinit concors descretorum et canonum sanctio, dicens: (Conjunctiones consanguineorum fleri prohibernus). Horum autem consanguinitas nec ignota est, nec remota, sicut testantur et probare parati sunt praedari viri de eadem sari prosapia. Dicunt enim quia Gualterius Albus genuit matrem Gualeranni comitis, qui genuit matrem Roberti comitis. Item supradictus Gualterius genuit Radulphum patrem alterius Radulfi, qui genuit Vemiandensem comitissam, ex qua nata eat uxor comitis Hugonis, cujus filiam nunc ducere vult Mellentinus comes."). Monumenta Germaniae Historica SS XIII (1881): 251-256: (Genealogiæ scriptoris Fusniacensis: "Nunc ad Hugonem Magnum revertamur. Hugo cognomento Magnus, frater Philippi regis Francorum, de Adelaide comitissa Veromandensium genuit Radulfum comitem Veromandie et Henricum de Chauni et Simonem episcopum Noviomensem et filias. De quarum una Bonefacius marchio genuit Bonefacium archidiaconum Noviomensem et filios et filias; quarem una nupsit Guilelmo de Monte-pessulano. Secunda filia Hugonis Magni ex Radulfo de Baugenci peperit Simonem eiusdem loci principem. Tercia filia ex Ioifrido de Firmitate-Galceri genuit uxorem Simonis de Oisiaco. Quarta filia nupsit comiti de Meslent, cui peperit filios, quorum unus successit path in comitatu, alter vero comitatem tenuit de Cirecestre [recte Leicester]."). Arch. Jour. 41(1884): 300-312. D.N.B. 4 (1885): 64-66 (biog. of Robert de Beaumont, Count of Meulan: "[He] is distinctly stated by Orderic to have been created earl of Leicester (‘inde consul in Anglia factus’). But of this the Lords' committee found no evidence (3rd Report on the Dignity of a Peer, p. 133). Nor does he appear to have been so styled ..."). Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 23 (1894): 463 (Ex Obituario Ecclesiæ Ebroicensis: "6 Jun. [Obiit] Robertus, comes Mellenti."), 472 (Ex Obituadis Lirensis Monasterii: "5 Jun. Obiit Robertus, comes Mellenti."), 487 (Ex Titicensis Monasterii Necrologio: "5 Jun. [Obiit] Robertus, comes Mellensium."). Bateson Recs. of the Borough of Leicester 1 (1899): xiii-xiv ("That he [Robert] was never styled Earl [of Leicester] in his lifetime seems certain"), 1 (charter of Robert, Count of Meulan dated 1103-18). Round Cal. Docs. Preserved in France 1 (1899): 112-113, 123-124. Depoin Cartulaire de l'Abbaye de St-Martin de Pontoise 3 (1901): 306-327. Porée Hist. de l'Abbaye du Bec 1 (1901): 368 (two charters of Robert I, Count of Meulan, one dated c.1117). Holmes Chartulary of St. John of Pontefract 2 (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Recs. 30) (1902): 483-484, 522 (charter of William, Earl of Warenne, and his wife, Isabel). Molinier Obituaires de la Province de Sens 1(1) (Recueil des Historiens de la France, Obituaires 1) (1902): 521 (Prieuré de Longpont: "idus Februarius [13 February] [obit.] Isabel, comitissa de Garenna"), 524 (Prieuré de Longpont "v. idus. Maius. [11 May] [obit.] Guillermus, comes de Garenna."); 2 (1906): 190 (Abbaye de Saint-Pere-en-Vallee: 6 Jun. - VIII idus. [Ob.] Robertus, comes Mellentensis, qui dedit S. Petro terram unius aratri in Garenna."); 238 (Obituaire of Prieuré de Saint-Nicaise de Meulan: "[Obiit] Isabel, comitissa Mellenti, XIII. kal. Mardi [17 Feb.]."). Revue Catholique de Normandie 11(1904): 198-200 (two undated charters of King William the Conqueror, one witnessed by Roger de Beaumont, and his sons, Robert, Count of Meulan, and Henry de Beaumont; the other witnessed by Robert, Count of Meulan), 200 (charter of Eudes, Bishop of Bayeux dated c.1079, witnessed by Robert de Beaumont), 207-209. Bodes Hist. du Canton de Meulan 1(1906): 25-38. Prou Recueil des Actes de Philippe Roi de France (1908): 270-272 (charter of King Philippe I of France dated 1082). Deville Cartulaire de l'Eglise de la Sainte-Triniti de Beaumont-le-Roger (1912): 3-10, 10-17 (confirmation charter of Waleran II, Count of Meulan names his father, Robert, Count of Meulan; his mother, Elizabeth, Countess of Meulan; and his grandfather, Roger de Beaumont), 43-45,237-238. Genealogist n.s. 36 (1919): 173-178. Salzman Chartulary of the Priory of St. Pancras of Lewes 1 (Sussex Record Society 38) (1932): 29 (charter of William de Warenne, 3d Earl of Surrey, and his mother, Isabel; dated c.1138). Reg Antiquissimum of the Cathedral Church of Lincoln 2 (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 28) (1933): 10-11 (writ of Robert, Count of Meulan dated before 1118). Trans. Royal Hist. Soc. 4th Ser. 17 (1934): 19-48. Walker Wakefield: Its Hist. & People (1934): 44-60 (pg. 52: author states "countess Isabel died February 13th, 1131, and the Earl followed her seven years later, on May 11th, 1138. Both were buried in the chapter house of Lewes priory."). Clay Early Yorkshire Charters 8 (1949): chart opp. 1, 7-12. Chibnall Select Docs. of the English Lands of the Abbey of Bec (Camden 3rd Ser. 73) (1951): 9 (charter of Robert Count of Meulan dated 1112). C.P. 12(1) (1953): 495-496. Paget (1957) 569:1-3 (identification of children, but Reginald shown as second son). Seversmith Colonial Fams. of Long Island, New York & Connecticut 5 (1958): 2456-2458, 2475. Sanders English Baronies (1960): 61,128-129. Val Leicestershire 5 (1964): 2. Bates and Gazeau "L'Abbaye de Grestain et la Farnille d'Herluin de Conteville," in Annales de Normandie 40 (1990): 5-30, 56-264. Albion 10 (1978): 352-373. Indiana Social Studies Quarterly 31(1978): 10-13. Scottish Hist. Rev. 60 (1981): 119-139. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 3(1) (1989): 55 (sub Vermandois). Vaughn Anselm of Bec & Robert of Meulan (1987). Winter Descs.of Charlemagne (800-1400) (1987): X11.22, X.111.44-XIII.48. Bates and Gazeau "L'Abbaye de Grestain at la Famille d'Herluin de Conteville," in Annales de Normandie 40 (1990): 5-30. Power Norman Frontier in the Twelfth & Early Thirteenth Centuries (2004): 228. Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 297 (chart), 308 (Vermandois ped.), 314 (Beaumont ped.), 315 (Warenne ped.). Online resource: hap://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet8.html#R1.
      Children of Isabel (or Elizabeth) de Vermandois, by Robert of Meulan (or de Beaumont):
      i. WALERAN (or GALERAN) [II], Count of Meulan, Earl of Worcester (see next).
      ii. ROBERT OF MEULAN, Knt., 1st Earl of Leicester, married AMICE DE GAEL [see LEICESTER 6].
      iii. MAUD OF MEULAN, married GUILLAUME (or WILLIAM) LOVEL, seigneur of Ivri [see LOVEL 6].
      iv. ISABEL OF MEULAN, mistress to HENRY I, King of England [see ENGLAND 2]; afterwards married (1st) GILBERT FITZ GILBERT, Earl of Pembroke [see PEMBROKE 3]; (2nd) RALPH BLUET, of Silchester, Hampshire and Lacock, Wiltshire [see PEMBROKE 3].
      Children of Isabel (or Elizabeth) de Vermandois, by William de Warenne:
      i. WILLIAM DE WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey, married ELA OF PONTHIEU [see WARENNE 6].
      ii. REYNOLD DE WARENNE, of Wormegay, Norfolk, married ALICE DE WORMEGAY [see BARDOLF 6].
      iii. ADA DE WARENNE, married HENRY OF SCOTLAND, Earl of Northumberland [see SCOTLAND 3].
      iv. GUNDRED DE WARENNE, married (1st) ROGER, 2nd Earl of Warwick [see WARWICK 6]; (2nd) WILLIAM DE LANCASTER, of Kendal, Westmorland [see WARWICK 6].”