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  • Name Alice Camoys 
    Gender Female 
    Died Aft 1/01 Feb 1455/6 
    Person ID I6145  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Thomas Camoys,   b. Abt 1351, of Trotton, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Mar 1421  (Age ~ 70 years) 
    Mother Elizabeth Louches,   b. of Great Milton, Oxfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F2546  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Leonard Hastings,   b. Abt 1396,   d. 20 Oct 1455  (Age ~ 59 years) 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F2658  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “THOMAS CAMOYS, K.G., of Trotton, Barcombe, Broadwater, and Elsted, Sussex, Honydon or Camoys (in Eaton Socon), Bedfordshire, Great Stukeley, Huntingdonshire, Bekerton, Norfolk, Tansor, Northamptonshire, etc., son and heir by his father's 2nd marriage, born in or before 1351 (of age in 1372). He married (1st) ELIZABETH LOUCHES, daughter and heiress of William Louches, of Great Milton and Chislehampton, Oxfordshire. They had one son, Richard, Knt., and one daughter, Alice. He was heir in 1372 to his uncle, Thomas Camoys, Knt., by which he inherited the manors of Trotton, Barcombe, Broadwater, and Elsted, Sussex, Great Stukeley, Huntingdonshire, Bekerton, Norfolk, Tansor, Northamptonshire, etc. In 1375 he was granted a weekly market at Broadwater, Sussex. The same year his maternal uncle, William Latimer, K.G., 4th Lord Latimer was granted various tenements and houses in Calais by the king formerly held by John Dayre, with remainder in male tail to Thomas Camoys. In 1378 he disputed the advowson of Broadwater, Sussex with Adam de Hartingdon. He was a legatee in the 1381 will of his cousin, William le Latimer, K.G., 4th Lord Latimer, by which he inherited the manor of Wotton, Surrey. He presented to the church of Wotton, Surrey, 1382, 1383, and 1392, and Lasham, Hampshire, 1392. He was one of the liveried personnel of his brother-in-law, Edward Courtenay, Kim, 11th Earl of Devon, in 1384-5. He saw military service in Castile under John of Gaunt. He was summoned to Parliament from 20 August 1383 to 26 Feb. 1420/1, by writs directed Thome Camoys ch'r, whereby he is held to have become Lord Camoys. He was excluded from court in Jan. 1388 by order of the Lords Appellant. In 1389 he made a settlement of the manor of Honydon or Camoy's (in Eaton Socon), Bedfordshire. In 1399 he was granted the bailiwick of the forestership of Alice Holt and Wolmer, Hampshire by the king "as Ralph de Camoys his grandfather had in the time of Edward III." The same year he and his son, Richard, were jointly granted custody of the castle and town of Porchester, Hampshire. In 1400 he manned a ship for service against the Scotch and the French. In 1405-6 he unsuccessfully claimed the manor of Eling, Hampshire against the warden of Winchester College. He married (2nd) after 3 June 1406 ELIZABETH MORTIMIER, widow of Henry "Hotspur" Percy, Knt., styled le Fitz, K.G., K.B., Justice of Chester, North Wales, and Flintshire, Warden of the East Marches, Captain of Berwick on Tweed [see PERCY 12 for issue of that marriage], and daughter of Edmund de Mortimer, Knt., Earl of March and Ulster, by Philippe, daughter and heiress of Lionel of Antwerp, K.G., Duke of Clarence, 5th Earl of Ulster (younger son of King Edward III of England) [see MORTIMER 13 for her ancestry]. She was born at Usk, Monmouthshire 12 (or 13) Feb. 1370/1, and baptized 16 Feb. 1370/1. She was a legatee in the 1380 will of her father. They had one son, Roger, Knt. [Lord Camoys]. In 1406 he signed the deed of King Henry IV regulating the succession to the crown. In 1408 William Mymecan sued Thomas Camoys, Knt, regarding 40s. rents with appurtenances in Wheatley, Oxfordshire. Thomas was heavily involved in the military affairs of both Kings Henry IV and Henry V. He commanded the left wing of the English army at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415. He presented to the church of Broadwater, Sussex in 1416. His wife, Elizabeth, died 20 April 1417. SIR THOMAS CAMOYS, Lord Camoys, died 28 March 1421. He and his 2nd wife, Elizabeth, were buried at Trotton, Sussex.
      Gurdon Hist. of the High Court of Parl. 1 (1731): 189. Nichols Coll. of All the Wills (1780): 104-117 (will of Edmond de Mortimer, Earl of March and Ulster). Blomefield Essay towards a Top. Hist of Norfolk 2(1805): 277-281. Blore Hist & Antiqs. of Rutland 1(2) (1811): 42 (Mortimer ped.). Nicolas Testamenta Vetusta 1 (1826): 108 (will of William K.G., 4th Lord Latimer, names his "cousin" Thomas Camoys). Dallaway Hist. of the Western Div. of Sussex 1(2) (1832): 217 (Camoys ped.). Sussex Arch. Coll. 3 (1850): 96. Hawley Royal Fam. of England (1851): 23-27. Davenport Lords Lieutenant & High Sheriffs of Oxfordshire (1868): 21. Carthew Hundred of Launditch & Deanery of Brisley 1(1878): 238-241 (Camoys ped.). Notes & Queries 6th Ser. 1 (1880): 234-235, 298-299, 341, 401; 10th Ser. 7 (1907): 509-510. Kirby Wykeham's Reg. 1(1896): 132, 137, 182, 184. Genealogist n.s. 17 (1901): 115. Revised Rpts. of Cases in the English Courts of Common Law & Equity 49 (1901): 195-250 (re. Camoys Peerage). C.P.R. 1399-1401 (1903): 46. Benolte et al. Vis. of Sussex 1530, 1633-4 (H.S.P. 53) (1905): 25-30 (Lewknor ped.: "Tho. Lord Camoys = Elizebeth d. & heire of Wmi. Louches."). Wrottesley Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 332. D.N.B. 3 (1908): 758-759 (biog. of Thomas de Camoys). Lane Royal Daughters of England 1 (1910): 275-277. C.C.R. 1369-1374 (1911): 406-407. Ruvigny and Raineval Plantagenet Roll: Mortimer-Percy 1 (1911): vi-vii, 2 (erroneously identifies Elizabeth Mortimer as mother of Alice Camoys, wife of Leonard Hastings, Knt., Alice was actually Elizabeth's step-daughter). VCH Hampshire 4 (1911): 81-82; 547-548. VCH Surrey 3 (1911): 155-156, 378-381. C.P. 2 (1912): 507-508 (sub Camoys); 9 (1936): 713-714 (sub Northumberland); 14 (1998): 138 (sub Camoys). VCH Bedfordshire 3 (1912): 189-202. C.C.R. 1381-1385 (1920): 61. Feudal Aids 6 (1920): 521. Cal. IPM 13 (1954): 150-151. VCH Sussex 4 (1953): 34-35; 6(1) (1980): 69-70, 77; 7 (1940): 80-83. Paget Baronage of England (1957) 114: 1-7 (sub Camoys). Hector Westminster Chron. 1381-1394 (1982): 230- 231. Devon & Cornwall Notes & Queries 35 (1983): 156 (biog. of Thomas Camoys, knight). Taylor English Hist. Lit. in the 14th Cent. (1987): 296 (Wigmore Chron. sub 1371: "Bodem anno Elizabeth primogenita filia. domini Edmundi de Mortymer comitis marchie nata est ex philippa uxore died domini Edmundi et Ella leonelli filii Edwardi tercii Anglie idus ffebruaris [13 Feb.] apud Uske et baptisara XVI die ffebruariis et confirmata eodem die."). Cal. IPM 20 (1995): 230; 23 (2004): 153, 388-389. Leese Blood Royal (1996): 143-149. Coss Soldiers, Nobles and Gentlemen (2009):107. Court of Common Pleas, CP 40/590, rot. 127 (available at http:// www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=1272).
      Children of Thomas Camoys, K.G., by Elizabeth Louches:
      i. RICHARD CAMOYS, Knt. [see next].
      ii. ALICE CAMOYS, married LEONARD HASTINGS, Knt, of Kirby Muxloe, Leicestershire [see HUNTINGDON 13].
      Child of Thomas Camoys, K.G., by Elizabeth Mortimer:
      i. ROGER CAMOYS, Knt., styled Lord Camoys, of Wotton, Surrey, Trotton, Sussex, Calais, France, etc., Seneschal of Guienne, son by his father's 2nd marriage, born about 1406 (aged 22 in 1428). He married (1st) before 3 March 1437/8 ISABEL ___. They had no issue. In 1429 he quitclaimed to Thomas Morstede, Esq. all his rights in the manor of Wotton, Surrey by way of mortgage for 200 mares; three years later he released to the said Thomas all his rights therein and levied a fine. In 1429 Roger claimed that in 1428 Robert Falowefeld used force arms to seize and carry off his goods and chattels at London to the value of £40. In 1433 he ceded his rights in the manors of Stukeley (in Great Stukeley), Huntingdonshire and Barcombe, Broadwater, and Trotton, Sussex to Roger Lewknor and his wife, Eleanor, niece of the said Roger. In 1436 he and the Earl of Huntingdon relieved the garrison at Calais. He was taken prisoner in France in 1443-4, and detained there in great misery. During his captivity, his wife, Isabel, was granted an annuity of £40 for life in October 1443. In 1411 he obtained license from the king to settle his property at Calais upon himself and his heirs male. His wife, Isabel, died shortly before 26 Nov. 1444, and was buried in the Grey Friars, London. In 1448 he married (2nd) by papal license dated 1448 ISABEL DE BEAUNOY, of the diocese of Rouen, with whom he had already cohabited. They had no issue. In July 1455 the king gave Richard, Earl of Salisbury the armour, etc. "which were of the Lord Camoys, our rebel .... as forfeited by cause of his rebellion." In 1465 SIR ROGER CAMOYS granted an inn called "Nettelbedd" with two tenements in St. Nicholas, Calais to his nephew, William Hastings, 1s, Lord Hastings. His date of death is unknown. Monro Letters of Queen Margaret of Anjou & Bishop Beckington (Camden Soc. 86) (1863): 109-110. Lewis Pedes Finium; or, Fines Rel. Surrey (Surrey Arch. Soc. Extra Volume 1) (1894): 151. VCH Stony 3 (1911): 154-164. Kingsford Grey Friars of London (1915): 77-78. Papal Regs.: Letters 10 (1915): 192 (Roger Camoys styled "brother of the earl of Northumberland"). Rpt. on MSS of the late Reginald R. Hastings 1 (Hist. MSS Comm. 78) (1928): 273, 275-276. VCH Huntingdon 2 (1932): 230-234. C.C.R. 1422-1429 (1933): 466. C.C.R. 1441-1447 (1937): 166, 460. C.C.R. 1447-1454 (1941-7): 324. VCH Sussex 4 (1953): 32-39; 6(1) (1980): 66-81; 7 (1940): 80-83. Paget (1957) 114: 1-7 (sub Camoys). Cal. IPM 23 (2004): 153. Court of Common Pleas, CP 40/674, rot. 370 (available at http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=1272).”

      2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “LEONARD HASTINGS, Knt., of Kirby Moxloe, Braunstone, Fleckney, Kilby, Newton, Harcourt, and Wistow, Leicestershire, Burton Hastings, Warwickshire, Slingsby, Colton, Houthorp, etc., Yorkshire, etc., Justice of the Peace for Leicestershire, 1448-55, Sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire, 1453 1, Knight of the Shire for Leicestershire, 1455, 3rd son, born about 1396 (aged 40 in 1436). He married ALICE CAMOYS, daughter of Thomas Camoys, K.G., Lord Camoys, by his 1st wife, Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of William de Louches [see CAMOYS 8 for her ancestry]. They had four sons, William, K.G. [1st Lord Hastings], Richard, Knt. [Lord Welles and Willoughby], Ralph, Knt., and Thomas, and three daughters, Elizabeth, Anne (wife of Thomas Ferrers, Esq.), and Joan (wife of John Brokesby, Esq.). He served in the retinue of Edmund Mortimer, Earl of March at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415. In 1424 he served as attorney in Ireland for William, Lord Botreaux. He was heir in 1436 to his older brother, Richard Hastings, Knt. He was again in France in 1/111. He was a retainer of Richard, Duke of York. SIR LEONARD HASTINGS died 20 October 1455. He left a will dated 8 October 1455. His widow, Alice, was living 1 Feb. 1455/6.
      Nichols Hist. & Antiqs. of Leicester 3(2) (1804): 607-608 (Hastings ped.). Brydges Collins' Peerage of England 6 (1812): 643-690 (sub Lord Hastings). Bell Huntingdon Peerage (1821): 1-13. Nicolas Testamenta Vetusta 1 (1826): 279-280 (will of Leonard Hastings). Nicolas Hist. of the Battle of Agincourt (1827): 10, 124. Curtis Top. Hist. of Leicester (1831): 83, 87, 101, 133, 188, 195-197. Nicolas Controversy between Scrope & Grosvenor 2 (1832): 283-285. List of Sheriff's for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 145. Poynton Romance of Ashby-de-la-Zouch Castle (1902). Brooke Slingsby & Slingsly Castle (1904). Notes & Queries 10th Ser. 7 (1907): 509-510. D.N.B. 9 (1908): 148-149 (biog. of William Hastings). C.P.R. 1446-1452 (1909): 298, 412, 590. C.P.R. 1452-1461 (1910): 669. Ruvigny and Raineval Plantagenet Roll: Mortimer-Percy 1 (1911): vii (states in error that Alice Camoys, wife of Leonard Hastings, was the daughter of Elizabeth Mortimer). Clay Extinct & Dormant Peerages (1913): 99-105 (sub Hastings). Farnham Leicestershire Medieval Peds. (1925): foll. 56 (Hastings ped.). CP. 6 (1926): 385 (sub Hastings). Rpt. on the MSS of Reginald Rawdon Hastings, Esq. 1 (Hist. MSS Comm. 78) (1928): 3, 11, 21, 44, 142, 158, 196, 295, 300, 301. Papal Regs.: Letters 13(2) (1955): 687-693 (abs. of dispensation dated 1479 regarding the marriage of Edward Hastings and Mary Hungerford, which record proves that Edward Hastings' paternal grandmother, Alice Camoys, was not the daughter of Elizabeth Mortimer as sometimes claimed in print. Alice Camoys was actually Elizabeth Mortimer's step-daughter; see, for example, Benolte et al. Vis. of Sussex 1330, 1633-4 (H.S.P. 53) (1905): 25-30 (Lewknor ped.), which identifies Alice's mother as her father's 1st wife, Elizabeth Louches, not his 2nd wife, Elizabeth Mortimer]. Had Alice Camoys been Elizabeth Mortimer's daughter, a 3rd degree of kinship would have existed between Edward and Mary. Such near kinship would surely have been mentioned in the dispensation if such a relationship actually existed). Acheson Gentry Community (1992): 234-235. Nelson Monstrous Adversary (2003): 10.
      Children of Leonard Hastings, Knt., by Alice Camoys:
      i. WILLIAM HASTINGS, KG., Lord Hastings [see next].
      ii. RICHARD HASTINGS, Knt., Lord Hastings of Welles (or Lord Welles), afterwards Lord Willoughby, married (1st) JOAN WELLES [see WELLES 131b]; (2nd) JOAN ROMONDBYE [see WELLES 13.i.b].
      iii. RALPH HASTINGS, Knt., of Harrowden, Northamptonshire, and, in right of his wife, of Wanstead, Essex, Woolwich, Kent, etc., joint Keeper of Rockingham Castle, 1461, Keeper of the Lions and Leopards in the Tower, King's esquire, Controller of Customs at Lynn, 1470, Controller of Petty Customs in the Port of London, 1470, Sheriff of Northamptonshire, 1471, Knight of the Shire for Northamptonshire, 1472, Lieutenant of Guines, 1474-83, Escheator of Yorkshire, 1477, Knight of the Body, Captain of Calais, Steward of Eyton Park, 3rd son. He married AMY TATTERSHALL, daughter and co-heiress of John Tattershall, Esq., of Woolwich, Kent, and Wanstead, Essex, by Agnes, daughter of John Chicheley, Chamberlain of London. They had six daughters, Florence, Margery (wife of John Pole), Elizabeth (wife of John Longueville, Knt.), Isabel (wife of John Dyve, Knt.), Katherine (wife of William Norwich), and Amy. He was granted an annuity of 50 marks for life by the king in 1461. In 1462 he was granted the manor of Harrowden, Northamptonshire, which had been forfeited by William Vaux, Knt. He presented to the church of Wilby, Northamptonshire in 1467 and 1479. He fought at the Battle of Barnet 14 April 1471. He was knighted at the Battle of Tewkesbury 4 May 1471. In 1472 he and his brother, William Hastings, were licensed to found a guild in the parish of St. Gregory the Pope, Northampton, Northamptonshire. In 1475 he was with the army in France. In 1483 he was granted an annuity of £40 from the revenues of Calais. SIR RALPH HASTINGS left a will dated 17 Sept. 1495, proved 1 Dec. 1495. Bridges Hist. Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 2 (1791): 155. Lysons Environs of London 4 (1796): 558-569. Hasted Hist. & Top. Survey of Kent 1 (1797): 471-472. Nichols Hist. et' Antiqs. of Leicester3(2) (1804): 607-608 (Hastings ped.). Bell Huntingdon Peerage (1821): 1-13. Nicolas Testamenta Vettata 2 (1826): 421 (will of Sir Ralph Hastings). Ireland New & Complete Hist. of the County of Kent 4 (1830): 655 Top. & Gen. 1(1846): 159-160. Fenn & Ramsay Parton Letters (1859): 114 (letter of William Hastings to John Paston III dated 26 April, 147? mentions William Hastings' brother, Sir Ralph Hastings). Fenn & Ramsay Paston Letters (1859): 114. Burke Royal Descents & Peds. of Founders' Kin (1864): i. Harvey etal. Vis. of Bedfordshire 1566, 1382, 1634 & 1669 (H.S.P. 19) (1884): 21-23 (1566 Vie.) (Dyve ped.). List of Sheriffs for England 6 - Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 93. Gairdner Paston Letters 5 (1904): 203-206 (John Paston III styled "cousin" by Sir Ralph Hastings in letter dated 9 May, ?1474). Home Counties Mag. 9 (1907): 47. Clay Extinct & Dormant Peerages (1913): 99-105 (sub Hastings). Farnham Leicestershire Medieval Pedr. (1925): foil. 56 (Hastings ped.). 'Thrupp Merchant Class of Medieval London (1948): 369. Davis Parton Letters & Papers of the 15th Coll 2 (1976): 410-411 (John Paston III styled "cousin" by Sir Ralph Hastings in letter dated 9 May, probably 1483).
      Child of Ralph Hastings, Knt., by Amy Tattershall:
      a. FLORENCE HASTINGS, married (1st) EDMUND GREY, Knt., 9th Lord Grey of Wilton [see WILTON 15]; (2nd) RICHARD BRETT, Gent., of Bletchley, Buckinghamshire [see WILTON 15].
      iv. ELIZABETH HASTINGS, married before 1465 JOHN DONNE (or DUNN, DWNN), Knt., of Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Esquire of the Body, 3rd son of Griffith Donne, of Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Lieutenant of Cherbourg, by Janet, daughter of John Scudamore, Knt. They had two sons, Edward, Knt., and Griffith, Knt., and two daughters, Anne (wife of William Reade, Knt.) and Margaret. He and his heirs male were granted the Castle, town, manor, and lordship of Laugharn (or Tallagharn), Carmarthenshire in 1461, with a proviso that he was only to receive £100 a year of the issues of the land granted to him. In 1467-8 there was a similar grant of the same property made to him and his wife, Elizabeth, and his heirs male, without the previous proviso. He was knighted after the Battle of Tewkesbury in 1471. He was a member of the Calais council in 1471. His wife, Elizabeth, was a legatee in the 1481 will of her brother, William Hastings, K.G., 1st Lord Hastings. SIR JOHN DONNE died in 1503. He left a will proved 13 Feb. 1502/3 (P.C.C. Blamyr). His widow, Elizabeth, died in 1508. She left a will dated 1507, proved 15 Feb. 1507/8 (P.C.C. Adeane). Nichols Hist. & Antiqs. of Leicester 3(2) (1804): 607-608 (Hastings ped.). Bell Huntingdon Peerage (1821): 395-399 (will of William Lord Hastings). Gentleman's Mag. (1840): 490-491. Curds Antiqs. of Laugharne (1880): 77-79. C.P.R. 1461-1467 (1897): 430-431. Clay Extinct & Dormant Peerages (1913): 99-105 (sub Hastings). Myers Crown, Household & ParZ (1985): 289. Acheson Gentry Community (1992): 177. Nelson Monstrous Adversary (2003): 10.
      Child of Elizabeth Hastings, by John Donne, Knt.:
      a. MARGARET DONNE, married (1st) EDWARD TRUSSELL, Gent., of Elmesthorpe, Leicestershire [see SAINT PHILIBERT 15]; (2nd) THOMAS CARDIGAN [see SAINT PHLLIBERT 15].”