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1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“ALICE DE SENLIS, married ROGER [FITZ WILLIAM] DE HUNTINGFIELD, of Huntingfield, Linstead, and Mendham, Suffolk, Frampton, Huttoft, and Southorpe, Lincolnshire, East Bradenham, Norfolk, etc., son and heir of William Fitz Roger de Huntingfield, by Sibyl, daughter of Roger de Gigny. He was born before 1145. They had four sons, William, Roger, Thomas, and John. About 1180-83, by permission of her husband, Roger, Alice gave land and pasture which she held in Tytton (in Wyberton), Lincolnshire to Stixwould Priory. In 1183 Maurice de Craon acknowledged his rights to various manors in Lincolnshire, in exchange for the manor of Warneborne. In 1189 he had a dispute with the Prior of Longeville concerning the advowson of Harleton, Cambridgeshire. He subsequently took the case to the king's court, and a decision reached at Westminster in 1196 in the presence of Hubert Walter. In 1196 the Longeville monks agreed that the lord. of the manor shall nominate to the rectory, in return for a pension from the church; he in turn promised that if the Bishop will not increase the pension of the monks from 20s. to 40s., he will himself pay the money. In the period, 1198-1204, he gave Mendham Priory a pasture in Mendham, Suffolk and a water mill called `Kingesholme.' In 1199 he gave 200 marks for 15 librates of land of the honour of Lancaster in Norfolk and Suffolk. In 1200 Roger de Huntingfield was present when William the Lion, King of Scots, paid homage to King John at Lincoln. At an unknown date, he witnessed a charter of his wife's brother, Saher de Quincy, to Sibton Abbey. At an unknown date, he confirmed a gift of Thomas de Multon to Spalding Abbey. ROGER DE HUNTINGFIELD died in 1204. His wife, Alice, died the same year.
Blomefield Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 5 (1806): 375. Stubbs Chronica Magistri Rogeri de Hovedene 4 (Rolls Ser. 51(4)) (1871): 141-142. Warner & Ellis Facsimiles of Royal & Other Charters in the British Museum 1 (1903): #45. Foster Final Concords of the County of Lincoln from the Feet of Fines A.D. 1244-1272 2 (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 17) (1920): 307-308. Salter Newington Longeville Charters (Oxfordshire Rec. Soc. 3) (1921): xxxiv-xxxvii, 75-76 (charter of Roger Fitz William de Huntingfield). CP. 6 (1926): 671 footnote a. Hatton Book of Seals (1950): 194-195, 200-201 (charter of Roger Fitz William dated 1198-1204). Paget Baronage of England (1957) 299:1. Hallam Settlement & Society (1965): 51. VCH Cambridge 5 (1973): 216. Franklin Cartulary of Daventry Priory (Pubs. of Northamptonshire Rec. Soc. 35) (1988): xx-xxi, 2-4. Wilkinson Women in 13th-Cent. Lincolnshire (2007): 174-175.
[Note: Evidence of the maiden name of Alice de Senlis (died 1204), mother of William de Huntingfield, the Magna Carta baron, is provided by her own charter to Stixwould Priory dated c.1180-3 [see Hallam Settlement & Society (1965): 51; Wilkinson Women in 13th Cent. Lincolnshire (2007): 174-175]. Alice has been identified by one recent historian as "perhaps" the daughter of Maud de Senlis, wife successively of Robert Fitz Richard (de Clare) (died 1136) and Saber de Quincy I [see Wilkinson Women in 13th Cent. Lincolnshire (2007): 175; Franklin Cartulary of Darentry Priory (Pubs. of Northamptonshire Rec. Soc. 35) (1988): xx-xxi, 2-4]. Another historian states Alice "was probably related to the [Senlis] earls of Northampton" [see Hatton Book of Seals (1950): 201]. Surviving charters indicate that Alice de Senlis' husband, Roger de Huntingfield, witnessed charters for both of Maud de Senlis' sons, Walter Fitz Robert and Saber de Quincy II [see Hatton Book of Seals (1950): 194, 201]. Roger de Huntingfield likewise held property at East Bradenham, Norfolk, the chief manor of which was previously held by Maud de Senlis, who gave the church there sometime before 1176 to Norwich Cathedral [see Blomefield Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 6 (1807): 134-138; Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 5 (1825): 56, 58; Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 6(1) (1830): 148-149; Dodwell Charters of the Norwich Cathedral Priory 1 (Pubs. Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 40) (1974): 180-183; Ward Women of the English Nobility & Gentry 1066-1500 (1995): 49-50]. In 1200 Roger de Huntingfield was present when William the Lion, King of Scots, paid homage to King John at Lincoln [see Stubbs Chronica Magistri Rogeri de Honedene 4 (Rolls Ser. 51(4)) (1871): 141-142]. Also present on this occasion were Roger le Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, Saber de Quincy IV, William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury, Robert de Roos, and William de Vescy, all of whom were near kinsfolk or related by marriage to King William the Lion. If Alice de Senlis, wife of Roger de Huntingfield, was the daughter of Maud de Senlis, it would make Alice a first cousin of King William the Lion. Given the chronology, passage of lands, naming patterns, etc., it seems virtually certain that Alice de Senlis was the daughter of Maud de Senlis and her 2nd husband, Saber de Quincy I, and that Alice's maritagium included Senlis family property at East Bradenham, Norfolk].”
2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“MAUD DE SENLIS, married in 1112 ROBERT FITZ RICHARD, of Little Dunmow, Essex, Baynard's Castle, London, Cratfield, Suffolk, etc., Steward of Kings Henry I and Stephen, 5th son of Richard Fitz Gilbert, of Bienfaite and Orbec, Normandy, Clare, Suffolk, Tonbridge, Kent, by Rohese, daughter of Walter Giffard, of Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire [see CLARE 1 for his ancestry]. They had one son, Walter, and one daughter, Maud. He witnessed a number of charters of King Henry I. Sometime before 1136 he gave all his part of the water of Stour Mere, for the souls of himself and his ancestors, and for the love of his kinsman, Gerard Giffard the prior, to Stoke by Clare Priory, Suffolk. He accompanied King Stephen to York and Exeter in 1136. ROBERT FITZ RICHARD died in 1137, after 28 November, and was buried at St. Neot's Priory, Cambridgeshire. His widow, Maud, married (2nd) between 1137 and 1140 (as his 1st wife) SAHER DE QUINCY (or QUENCY), of Long Buckby, Northamptonshire and Wimpole, Cambridgeshire, and, in right of his 1st wife, of East Bradenham, Norfolk and Daventry, Northamptonshire; and, in right of his 2nd wife, of Great Childerley (in Childerley), Cambridgeshire. They had two sons, Robert and Saher, and one daughter, Alice. Sometime before 1176 Maud granted the church of East Bradenham, Norfolk to Norwich Cathedral with the consent of her son, Walter Fitz Robert. At an unknown date, with consent of Walter her son, she granted to Maurice Fitz Geoffrey all her dower lands in Essex and London, which William Fitz Walcher formerly held. He witnessed a charter of Simon son of Simon Earl of Northampton in 1153-7. His wife, Maud, was living in 1158. In 1158 he was pardoned 25s. danegeld in Northamptonshire. Sometime after 1163 he granted Sibton Abbey 20 acres of land from his demesne and 30 acres of broken heath in the village of Tuddenham, Suffolk. At an unknown date, Saher granted the canons of Dunmow, Essex a yearly rent of 10s. issuing out of the lordship of East Bradenham, Norfolk. Saher married (2nd) after 1165 ASCELINE PEVEREL, widow of Geoffrey de Waterville (occurs c.1138-61, dead in 1162), of Ailsworth and Upton (in Castor), Northamptonshire, and daughter of Robert Peverel, by his wife, Adelicia. They had no issue. She was co-heiress in 1148 to her brother, William Peverel, of Dover, by which she inherited a one-quarter share of the barony of Bourn, Cambridgeshire. Sometime between 1161 and 1172, she and her son, Ralph de Waterville, conceded to Shrewsbury Abbey a third of Crugelton and Slepe, Shropshire, as given previously by her uncle, Hamon Peverel. Sometime in the 1170s Saher confirmed William [de Belvoir] and his son, Reynold [de Oakley], in their possession of the manor of Great Childerley (in Childerley), Cambridgeshire. SAHER DE QUINCY died in 1190 (or about 1193).
Weever Antient Funeral Monuments (1767): 388-391. Baker Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 1 (1822-30): 563 (Beaumont-Quincy ped.). Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 5 (1825): 181 (charter of Maud de Senlis to Daventry Priory, naming her deceased husband, [Robert] Fitz Richard, and her mother, Queen Maud [of Scotland]); 6(1) (1830): 147 ("[Year] 1112. Robertus filius Ricardi deponsavit Matildam de Sancto Licio quae fuit domina de Brade[n]ham"). Clutterbuck Hist. & Antiqs. of Hertford 3 (1827): 225-226 (Clare ped). Hodgson Hist. of Northumberland Pt. 2 Vol. 3 (1840): 6-8 (ped.)". Trans. British Arch. Assoc., 2nd Annual Congress (1846): 294-306. Lipscomb Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 1 (1847): 200-201 (Clare ped.). Eyton Antiqs. of Shropshire 9 (1859): 62-78. Notes & Queries 4th Ser. 11(1873): 269-271, 305-308. Remarks & Colls. of Thomas Hearne 3 (Oxford Hist. Soc.) (1889): 104 (ped. chart). Birch Catalogue of Seals in the British Museum 2 (1892): 397 (seal of Maud de Senlis dated temp. Henry II.- Pointed oval. To the left. In tightly-fitting dress with long maunches, in the right hand a fleur-cle-lis. Standing. Legend wanting,). Round Feudal England (1895): 468 -479,575 (ped.). Arch. Jour. 2nd Ser. 6 (1899): 221-231. Warner & Ellis Facsimiles of Royal & Other Charters in the British Museum 1 (1903): #37 (charter of William, Count of Boulogne and [Earl] of Warenne dated 1154; charter witnessed by Saher de Quincy). Copinger Manors of Suffolk (1905): 45-46; 2 (1908): 45-53. VCH Northampton 2 (1906): 483. Lindsay et al. Charters, Bulls and other Docs. Rel. to the Abbey of Inchaffray (Scottish Hist. Soc. 56) (1908): lxxxvi-lxxxix. C.P. 5 (1926): 472, footnote f; 6 (1926): 641, footnote b. Leys Sandford Cartulary 2 (Oxfordshire Rec. Soc. 22) (1941): 280-281 (charter of Simon son of Simon Earl of Northampton dated 1153-7; charter witnessed by Saher de Quincy). Hatton Book of Seals (1950): 102-103 (charter of Maud de Senlis dated early Henry II; charter witnessed by Walter Fitz Robert and Saher [de Quincy] her sons; attached seal displays a lady standing in mantle and gown, no legend), 194-195 (charter of Saher de Quincy dated after 1163; charter witnessed his son, Saher de Quincy, and [son-in-law], Roger de Huntingfield). Paget (1957) 14:2 (daughter Maud, who retained her mother's surname, has been confused with the latter), 230:1 (he died after Easter 1136 when he was one of the witnesses to Stephen's Charter to Winchester). Sanders English Baronies (1960): 129-130. VCH Cambridge 5 (1973): 4-16, 16-25,111-120, 241-251; 6 (1978): 220-230; 8 (1982): 97-110, 127-135, 248-267; 9 (1989): 41-44, 118-120. Dodwell Charters of the Norwich Cathedral Priory 1 (Pubs. Pipe Roll Soc. n.s. 40) (1974): 180-183 (charter dated 1176 mentions gift of the church of Bradenham, Norfolk "quarn Matilda de Silvenecti concessione filii sin Gwalteri ecclesie tue dedit et carta sua confirmauit"). Harper-Bill Stoke by Clare Cartulary 1 (Suffolk Charters 4) (1982): 115 (Gerard Giffard, Prior of Stoke by Clare, styled "kinsman" by Robert Fitz Richard before 1136). Kealey Harvesting the Air (1987): 107-131. Caenegem English Lawsuits from William Ito Richard 11 (Selden Soc. 106) (1990): 249-250. Franklin English Episcopal Acta 14: Coventry and Lichfield 1072-1159 (1997): 85-87. Raban White Book of Peterborough (2001): 250. Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 291 (chart), 313 (Scotland ped.), 316 (Clare ped.).
Children of Maud de Senlis, by Robert Fitz Richard:
i. WALTER FITZ ROBERT [see next].
ii. MAUD DE SENLIS, married (1st) WILLIAM D'AUBENEY, of Belvoir, Leicestershire [see DAUBENEY 5]. (2nd) RICHARD DE LUVETOT, of Sheffield, Yorkshire [see DAUBENEY 5].
Children of Maud de Senlis, by Saher de Quincy:
i. ROBERT DE QUINCY, of Tranent, Fawside, and Longniddry, East Lothian, Scotland, Grantchester, Cambridgeshire, Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, etc., married ORABEL FITZ NESS [see QUINCY 5].
ii. ALICE DE SENLIS, married ROGER DE HUNTINGFIELD, of Linstead and Mendham, Suffolk, Frampton, Lincolnshire, East Bradenham, Norfolk, etc. [see HUNTINGFIELD 5].”
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