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- RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. The following is circumstantial, but very compelling nevertheless. For background, see extensive notes within the notes of the earliest Winner in my database, whom I use to act as a repository of a comprehensive search of all early Winners in both New Jersey and Bucks co., Pennsylvania. With such a comprehensive overview of these early Winners and by process of elimination, I have found a pattern which I believe establishes and follows the ancestry of the earliest Isaac Winner of Dover Twp., Monmouth Co., NJ. - who is our first ancestor in that area. This is my thinking:
Isaac's son Jonathan in the 1850 census in Brown Co., OH, indicates he was born abt. 1778 in Pennsylvania - this is even though we know he was in Dover Twp. circa 1812. Jonathan's birth with him being the first born of Isaac would logically lead us to a marriage there for about 1776.
Another link to Pennsylvania is found with Isaac's son, Isaac (bro. of Jonathan), who is reported to have married his wife Mary Catherine Powell in Philadelphia, PA, per the published biography of Isaac and Mary's son John Leopold Winner (see their notes for transcript).
We also have a personal family history memoir from Isabel (Lambert) Winner, wife of James Winner (Benjamin, Jonathan, Isaac) who states that the Winners were from Pennsylvania, probably Bucks county. (Source: 20 Jun 2004 email from descendant Gary Coon who descends from Arnold Coon, Clara Wilding, Leoni Winner, then James.)
Interestingly, we find some records in Bucks county (and New Jersey) that fit the pattern.
A. "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents: "Winner, Isaac, Bucks, PA, and Hannah Searl, Bucks, PA, 1776 Nov. 9." (Familysearch, source film 888709, vol. W, p. 474.) Note that this date fits perfectly with Jonathan's birth discussed above while establishing a link with Bucks County and NJ. In doing an Internet search for this couple on 20 Nov 2011, absolutely no hits were found - this means that this particular couple has never been linked into a family tree or written up on the web even though the marriage record clearly exists. Many with Quaker backgrounds would "marry out of meeting" which would explain a marriage license over the border for two Bucks Co. residents (i.e. a trip to Las Vegas for a no-question marriage).
B. We find only one Isaac Winner in Buck Co., PA, in the early records. Note however that all of a sudden in 1778/1779 we see both an Isaac Sr. and Jr. Isaac Jr. is married, which concurs with the 1776 marriage discussed above. It also shows Isaac Jr. being in Pennsylvania at the time of the birth of Jonathan in 1778. References to Isaacs in Middleton disappear thereafter. This would have been at the time of the American Revolution when records were poorly kept. Perhaps Isaac Sr. died thereafter, but more importantly we see our Isaac in the Dover Twp., NJ tax records beginning 1783. (See separate note in these notes for more on the Dover tax records.)
a. "Tax Records 1693-1778" (year, township, name, ₤ value, tax s-d):
-1754, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 10, 1-8, married.
-1757, Middleton, Isaack Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
-1760, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1762, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Sr., 4, 2-0, married.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Jr., 4, 2-0, married.
b. 1779 Tax List: (Bucks co., PA)
-Isaac Winner, Sen., Middleton.
-Isaac Winner, Jun., Middleton.
c. H. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records 1779," transcribed by Patricia Woodruff January 2001 (Name -Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants), married men:
-Isaac Winner, Jr.-0-0-1-0 -Isaac Winner, Sen.-0-0-1-0 -Samuel Winner-0-0-1-0
d. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011Middletown Township Property and Tax Records," transcribed by Laura VanSant 2003 (Name-Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants) - all Isaacs disappear after 1781:
-1781: Isaac Winner, weaver, 0-1-1-0
-1782: Samuel Winner, 0 0 2 0
-1783: Sam'l Winner 2.10 [Not the assessment - probably the tax amount of 2 sh. 10 d.]
In short, I believe that we are seeing our Isaac, his wife Hannah Searle, and Isaac's father, Isaac, in the above records. Until proven otherwise, I am considering this our ancestral line.
2. There is an early Isaac Winner in Dover Township; no other Winners are shown in Dover in the same time period. Ancestry.com shows:
-Oct. 1783 Tax List: Isaac Winnir
-June 1786 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-"Name on a petition, 4 Mar 1786, to the Legislature from freeholders and inhabitants of part of Dover Township in Monmouth County asking that a new county be formed because of the distance they have to..."
-June 1789 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1793 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1796 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1797 Tax List: Isaac Winner
3. Email from Mike Morrissey 17 Jun 2004 mikemorr@hotmail.com:
"Reuben Haines had a store near Toms River. His account book for 1816-1822 (mostly 1816-1818) was abstracted in the "Genealogical Magazine of NJ.' Among the names listed were:
Aron Bennett [later husband of Naomi?}
Moses Bennett [son of Aaron]
Garrett Irons [1st cousin of Naomi]
Ezekial Johnson
Jacob Johnson
Joel Johnson [brother of Naomi]
Jonathan Johnson [brother of Naomi]
Joseph Johnson [possible brother of Naomi]
Joshua Johnson
Samuel Johnson (& daughter) [possible brother of Naomi]
Richard Phillips
Samuel Phillips
William Phillips [son of Andrew and Naomi]
Mr. Winner [KP note: probably Isaac since probably all of Isaac's oldest children were in Ohio or on their way]
Mrs. Winner
Except for the Irons, I have listed all those of a given surname. Andrew Phillips is not listed. That does not prove he was dead, but it is likely. The only Bennetts listed are Aaron and his son, Moses. That makes it seem likely that he was the 3rd husband of Naomi.
Unfortunately, the references to Isaac Winner in the History on Monmouth Co. both only state he was remembered as an early preacher at the Methodist church in Blue Ball. No time frame was given, so it is not of much use. The church was founded about 1780, but the earliest records filmed by the LDS appear to be about 1855. [KP note: Rev. Isaac was much later than our Isaac; see notes on the Rev. in the notes of the earliest Winner in my database.]"
4. Monmouth County Archives and also NJ State Archives, Monmouth co., vol. B2, p. 597: Deed poll and indenture between Isaac Winner selling his land of about 70 acres between Toms River and Long Swamp16 Oct 1819 to William Phillips [son from his wife's first marriage to Andrew Phillips]. Deed notes both parties are of Dover. Value of transaction was $10 and recorded 21 Oct 1819.
See also wife's notes for a similar sale to the same party in 1824.
5. Isaac's son George's middle name of "King" may be a reference to an ancestral surname (or perhaps to someone having some influence and respect with the Winner family). In Monmouth County, New Jersey there is record that one of the earliest Methodist preachers (before 1778) was John King [ref: the book "Old Times in Monmouth," p. 100. Also the Ocean County Historical Association library in Tom's River, NJ has the following genealogical entry: John K[ing?] Predmore, b. 10-12-1842 in NJ; d. 12-12-1924, Waretown; bur. Waretown; father Wm. Predmore b. NJ; mother Mary King b. NJ; died from arterio sclerosis, was sea captain, and lived in Waretown [Waretown, NJ is where Jonathan Winner operated as a sea vessel owner/captain in 1812 and is the village home of a large number of Predmores]. See hard file for several cemetery records for Waretown and Barnegat, NJ for burials of several possibly related Predmores and Kings (also included are Sopers, business partners per 1812 shipping incident noted in Jonathan's notes).
6. Letter dated 23 Jul 1956 from Enid Willardson Beagley to an unspecified cousin regarding her opinion on the ancestry of the Winner family. I have since her death seen all of her records in both Missouri where she died and with her best friend Eunice Konold in San Diego; I cannot find any papers or book on the supposed 3,000 names she gathered of descendants of the Pieter Winne. I have seen where she placed ads in some genealogy magazines offering rewards to anyone who could connect the Jonathan Winner (or who I believe to be Jonathan's father: John Winner) to the Dutch Winne lines of New Amsterdam (now New York City). It does not appear that she ever successfully connected the lines in spite of what the following letter says:
"...George King Winner was the son of Jonathan Winner and Sarah Predmore. Jonathan was the son of John Winner and Sarah Carr. The immigrant to America of the Winner line was Pieter Winne who came first to New Amsterdam (later called new York), then purchased a farm at Bethlehem, Albany Co., New York. This was on the Hudson River. Many of this family were later engaged in importing, shipping, and other occupations connected with the son. The branch of the family that removed to New Jersey and eastern Pennsylvania often added the 'R' to their last name.
I am trying to work out these family connections. I have spent several years and a great deal of effort and money. I now have bout 3,000 proven names of descendants of the immigrant, Pieter Winne, and would like very much to put this out in a book. I will send you the pedigree charts and [the] family group sheets which go with it, on your direct line..."
I have a copy of a pedigree sheet prepared by Daisy Von Wagoner based on the information Enid used, but I do not trust it thus far since it is unproved. It shows:
Jonathan Winner, b. abt. 1780 in New Jersey, parents Johannes Pieterz Winne and Hannah Carr ("Sarah Carr" handwritten over it with a question mark).
Johannes' parents were Pieter Pieterz Winne, b. 1721 per Kingston Dutch Reformed Church records, md. Aarniantje Van Etten, 20 Jan 1749 in Kingston, Ulster, New York.
Pieter's parents were Pieter Pieterz Winne, b. Oct 1691 per Kingston Dutch Reformed Church records, md. Antje Merkel 25 Nov 1720 per Kingston Dutch Reformed Church records. Antje b. abt. 1697 in Germany.
Pieter's parents are Pieter Pieterz Winne, b. Nov 1661 in New York, md. Jannetje Arentz Pier 5 Jan 1682 per Kingston Dutch Reformed Church records. Jannetje b. Jul 1664 at Esopus, Ulster, New York.
Pieter's parents are Pieter Pietersz Winner, b. 1643 at Curaco, West Indies, d. 1695/6 Renselaerswyk, New York, m. 1661 to Jannetje Nicolas Albertz per Dutch Reformed Church Records in New York [City?].
Pieter's parents were Pieter Winne, b. 14 Apr 1609 at Ghent, Flanders, Netherlands, d. 1692/3 at Albany Co., NY, md. Aechie Jans VanSchaik in Ghent, Flanders, Netherlands. Aechie was b. abt. 1610 in Netherlands, d. abt. 1643/4 in New York.
Pieter's father was Franciscus Winne.
7. Much of NJ including our part of Monmouth co. had no censuses until 1830. Isaac does not show up in the 1830 or 1840 censuses as can be seen from my following extractions:
A. 1830 US census index for all Winne/Winners in NJ:
-Dr. Henry Winne, Bernards Twp., Somerset.
-Martin Winne, Bernards Twp., Somerset.
-Abby Winner, Egg Harbor Twp., Gloucester.
-George N. [K.] Winner, Dover Twp., Monmouth.
-Isaac Winner, Green Twp., Sussex.
-Samuel Winner, Evesham Twp., Burlington.
B. 1840 US census index for all Winne/Winners in NJ:
-Cornelius Winne, Bernards, Sommerset.
-Hannah Winne, Bernards, Somerset.
-Margaret Winne, Bellevil., Essex.
-Martin Winne, Bernards, Somerset.
-Charles P. Winner, Newkirk, Essex.
-George K. Winner, Dover Twp., Monmouth.
-Harriet Winner, Egg Harbor, Atlantic.
-Isaac Winner, Hannover, Burlington.
-Jesse Winner, Harmony, Warr.
-John S. Winner, Bergen Twp., Hudson.
-Nicholas Winner, Bergen Twp., Hudson.
-Reuben Winner, Dover Twp., Monmouth.
-Thomas Winner, Orange Twp., Essex.
-William Winner, Piles Gr., Sale.
8. The portion of the county with Dover Twp. was changed to Ocean from Monmouth in 1850.
9. From Mike Morrissey: "Men enrolled in the Militia in Dover in 1793" (ages 18-45). These are the only men listed with the corresponding surnames. The Irons family are potentially related by James Irons marrying Nelle Longstreet, a daughter of Gisbert Longstreet:
Phillips: Thomas, Joseph, Samuel, Richard, and Andrew.
Johnston: George, William, and Benjamin.
Winner: Isaac.
Bennett: Aaron.
Irons: James and John.
There may be other surnames of interest, but these are all that Mike provided to me by email.
9. The case for a relationship of the early New Jersey residents Isaac Winner of Dover Township in Monmouth Co., Abraham Winner of Northampton Township in Burlington Co., and John Winner of Great Egg Harbor in Gloucester Co. to Isaac Winner Sr. of Bucks Co., Pennsylvania. Prepared 22 Nov 2011 by Kerry Petersen .
There are two basic groups of Winners circa the Revolutionary War and post era in New Jersey. The oldest are the Winnes of northern New Jersey who derive from the Dutch immigrant Pieter Winne of New Amsterdam and eventually Albany, New York. Their genealogical descendancy is conclusively presented in detail in "The Dutch Settlers Society of Albany Yearbook," v. 40 (1964-1966), pp. 6-28. A branch of this family ended up in upstate New Jersey and we easily follow them in New Jersey probate and other documents. They retained their Dutch roots even in the era of our discussion. They are all accounted for and they remain distinctly separate from our group of Winners. Unfortunately, some of the northern records indiscriminately interchange the surnames Winne and Winner for these families, which has led to confusion. An early Winner researcher from the 1950s, Enid Willardson, spent a lifetime trying to seek a connection from our Winners back through the Winnes, but failed in so doing even after amassing over 3000 Winne names. I have personally reviewed her workpapers after her decease and the tentative connection she contrived to make does not stand up to scrutiny and more modern research. Regrettably it was picked up by the old LDS Ancestral File based upon her submission and has since bled through to many unsuspecting user-submitted online databases. It is not my purpose to detail the Winnes; however, before linking our three early Winners under discussion, it was critical to eliminate the Winne family as a possible ancestry. Suffice it to say that this was done.
This then directs us to look to neighboring Bucks County for the source of our Winners. Any study of early New Jersey records in the three counties we are discussing quickly leads to the conclusion that there were no Winners reported there before our three Winner men. They came from elsewhere then New Jersey. Lets review first Isaac of Dover since his link to Bucks county is easiest to assemble. My descendancy comes from Isaac. We will then link Isaac to Abraham and then Abraham and John.
Isaac WINNER of DOVER:
The following is circumstantial, but very compelling nevertheless. First, I made comprehensive search of all early Winners in both New Jersey and Bucks co., Pennsylvania (abstracts available in the notes of the earliest Winner in my PAF files). With such a comprehensive overview of these early Winners and by process of elimination, I have found a pattern which I believe establishes and follows the ancestry of the earliest Isaac Winner of Dover Twp., Monmouth Co., NJ. - who is our first ancestor in that area. This is my thinking:
Isaac's son Jonathan (who married Sarah Predmore) in the 1850 census in Brown Co., OH, indicates he was born abt. 1778 in Pennsylvania - this is even though we know he was in Dover Twp. circa 1812. Jonathan's birth with him being the first born of Isaac would logically lead us to a marriage there for about 1776. (See separate research into the descendants of Isaac Winner, who also include: Ohio residents John Winner and Hester Ann Mason, Isaac Winner and Mary Catherine Powell, Samuel Winner; California resident George K. Winner; and Monmouth residents Rueben H. Winner and Amy Winner who m. 1. Charles Soper and 2. Jacob Creby/Creeley.)
Another link to Pennsylvania is found with Isaac's son, Isaac (bro. of Jonathan), who is reported to have married his wife Mary Catherine Powell in Philadelphia, PA, per the published biography of Isaac and Mary's son John Leopold Winner (see their notes for transcript).
We also have a personal family history memoir from Isabel (Lambert) Winner, wife of James4 Winner (Benjamin3, Jonathan2, Isaac1) who states that the Winners were from Pennsylvania, probably Bucks county. (Source: 20 Jun 2004 email from descendant Gary Coon who descends from Arnold Coon, Clara Wilding, Leoni Winner, then James.)
Interestingly, we find some records in Bucks county (and New Jersey) that fit the pattern.
A. "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents: "Winner, Isaac, Bucks, PA, and Hannah Searl, Bucks, PA, 1776 Nov. 9." (Familysearch, source film 888709, vol. W, p. 474.) Note that this date fits perfectly with Jonathan's birth discussed above while establishing a link with Bucks County and NJ. In doing an Internet search for this couple on 20 Nov 2011, absolutely no hits were found - this means that this particular couple has never been linked into a family tree or written up on the web even though the marriage record clearly exists. Many with Quaker backgrounds would "marry out of meeting" which would explain a marriage license over the border for two Bucks Co. residents (i.e. a trip to Las Vegas for a no-question marriage).
B. We find only one Isaac Winner in Bucks Co., PA, in the early records. Note however that all of a sudden in 1778/1779 we see both an Isaac Sr. and Jr. together in Middletown. Isaac Jr. shows as married, which concurs with the 1776 marriage discussed above. It also shows Isaac Jr. being in Pennsylvania at the time of the birth of Jonathan in 1778. References to Isaacs in Middletown return to one after 1779 then disappear after 1781. Perhaps Isaac Sr. died thereafter, but more importantly we see our Isaac in the Dover Twp., NJ tax records beginning 1783.
a. "Tax Records 1693-1778" (year, township, name, ₤ value, tax s-d) for Bucks Co.:
-1754, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 10, 1-8, married.
-1757, Middleton, Isaack Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
-1760, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1762, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Sr., 4, 2-0, married.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Jr., 4, 2-0, married.
b. 1779 Tax List: (Bucks co., PA)
-Isaac Winner, Sen., Middleton.
-Isaac Winner, Jun., Middleton.
c. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records 1779," transcribed by Patricia Woodruff January 2001 (Name -Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants), married men:
-Isaac Winner, Jr.-0-0-1-0 -Isaac Winner, Sen.-0-0-1-0 -Samuel Winner-0-0-1-0
d. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records," transcribed by Laura VanSant 2003 (Name-Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants) - all Isaacs disappear after 1781:
-1781: Isaac Winner, weaver, 0-1-1-0
-1782: Samuel Winner, 0 0 2 0
-1783: Sam'l Winner 2.10 [Not the assessment - probably the tax amount of 2 sh. 10 d.]
e. There is an early Isaac Winner in Dover Township; no other Winners are shown in Dover in the same time period. Ancestry.com shows:
-Oct. 1783 Tax List: Isaac Winnir
-June 1786 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-"Name on a petition, 4 Mar 1786, to the Legislature from freeholders and inhabitants of part of Dover Township in Monmouth County asking that a new county be formed because of the distance they have to..."
-June 1789 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1793 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1796 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1797 Tax List: Isaac Winner
Summary: I believe that we are seeing our Isaac, his wife Hannah Searle, and Isaac's father, Isaac, in the above records. Until proven otherwise, I am considering this our ancestral line.
Abraham WINNER of NORTHAMPTON (aka Abraham of Mount Holly):
Abraham is not my direct line so I don't have as much research on his descendants; however, much has been published on Abraham himself. First let's establish what is more or less known from solid sources as well as the Internet about him and then I will introduce my own additional documentation that I believe links Isaac to Abraham.
A. First record of Abraham per FHL book 974.961 V2c "Burlington County Marriages," by H Stanley Craig (1932, rep. 2003), pp. 95, 233, 248: Abraham Winner - Mary Thatcher, 9-13-1769. Variant from FHL film 1320671, it. 5, the book "Historical and Genealogical Miscellany, Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey," by John E. Stillwell (Baltimore, 1970), p. 72, "Register of St. Mary's Church, Burlington, N.J.": "Married - Abraham Winner & Mary Hatcher, both of Burlington County, were lawfully married, Septem'r 3d 1769, at Mountholly." From the Internet it appears St. Mary's was an Episcopal Church. It is probable that this was an intentional marriage outside of Quaker meeting similar to Isaac's.
B. "Revolutionary Census of NJ," by Kenn Stryker-Rodda; List I (1773 & 1774): Abraham Winnor - Northhampton, Burlington Co.
C. Abraham (Winnor and Winner): Northampton, Burlington Co. Various Lists: 1774, 1787.
D. From "Old Inns and Taverns," by Charles Boyer, p. 49: "Another early tavern keeper was Abraham Winner, whose house was located on the north side of Gaskill's Lane, now Woodlane, near the old Quaker Meeting House. On April 22, 1776, he gave a mortgage to Joseph Butterworth on this property,vwhich had probably then been discontinued as a tavern."
E. Rootsweb accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Burlington County NJ - NJGenWeb; Early Tax List - Northampton Township, 1779. Only Winner shown is Abraham Winner (no Isaac or John): 90 acres of land valued at 25, 2 horses, 2 cattle, 1 hog, total whereon to levy 27/5/0, amount of certainty 0.66, tax carried out 1.22. (Note that there is also a Caleb Carr on the same tax list with 250 acres; I believe that the father of Hannah Carr who married John Winner in 1776 was Caleb Carr.)
F. Undocumented from Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: "By Jan 1780 he was purchasing foragemaster."
G. Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: New Jersey Historical Society, "Calendar of New Jersey wills, administrations, etc.," Vol. 5, p. 314: "1780, Oct. 27 - Adm'r - William Cramer, of Little Egg Harbor. Fellowbondsmen - Joseph Biddle, of Springfield, and Abraham Winner, of Northampton; all of Burlington Co. The said William Cramer is appointed Adm'r of the estate of John Little, left unadministered by Sarah Little, during the minority of James, the son of said John Little."
H. Internet Usgenweb by Patricia M. Bergener (fmlyhstry@verizon.net) 1999 accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Early New Jersey Marriages - Extracts": #557; Cornelius McAnley of Springfield in the County of Burlington, and Abraham Winner... [bound to]... William Livingston, Governor... 500 pounds... 1 Feb 1784. ... Contract of Marriage between Cornelius McAnley... and Mary Johnson... [w] Jos: Read.
I. From the Internet: The following list for Winner Surnames in NJ -Colonial Records, CD 136 Dec 94 ver. GRS v 3:03: Abraham Winner, Burlington Co., NJ voters 1787, pg. 80.
J. Online Archive.org "Documents Relating to the Colonial, Revolutionary and Post-Revolutionary History of the State of New Jersey," accessed 21 Nov 2011: "1788, Nov. 15. Borden, Joseph, Jr., of Burlington Co. Int. Adm'r - Robert Dougherty. Fellowbondsman - Abraham Winner; both said Co."
K. FHL book 974.961 R28h "Burlington County, New Jersey, Deed Abstracts - Books A, B and C," by Richard S. Hutchinson: "Book D, p. 1, 4 Mar 1794, concerns Commissioners making a division of "property late of William Smith, deceased ... of the City of Burlington [who] died intestate. The division takes over 33 pages and names several dozen adjoining property owners including "Winner's Ferry, land of Abraham Winner and wife on 28 February 1788."
L. Undocumented from Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: "He died in what is to be believed to be the Alms House in Philidelphia and is buried in the same graveyard as Joseph and Elizabeth Winner."
M. I include the following just so I can refute it. From the Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Gloucester County Historical Society - Oct, 9, 1969 from Ernistene Siegel, 1906 Watrous Ave, Tampa, FL 33606: "...there was an Abraham Winner of Mt. Holly, who was a tavern keeper there before the out break of the Rev War, and who is still there in 1787. This Abraham Winner was a descendant of Capt. James Winner, who was in Colonel McCrea's Regiment in the Revolutionary War. As a note, Captain James Winner was in Col. McCrea's regiment when they returned Levies, Fort Edward July 21, 1780. A return of Levies raised from Saraghtoga Regiment. And Now in actual service at Fort Ann under the command of Capt. Sherman, John McCrea, Colo. August 11th, 1780. No. 3092 Return of Levies from Colonel McCrea's Regiment. Fort Edward July 21 the 1780. <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/albany/military/revwar/service/mccrea.txt>" My comments: there is no document saying our Abraham is the son of Capt. Winner. Basic research shows that Col. James McCrea's local militia group was of Albany, New York and did not involve men from so far away as New Jersey since Col. McCrea's battles were in upstate New York. The Levies only mention a Capt. Winner, not James Winner. Albany was the seat of the Dutch Winnes, which is not our group. Changing the subject, the author Ernestine Siegel has published work on her ancestor James Winner who served in the Rev. War as part of the Bucks County Regulators. She has determined that he was a son of the same Isaac Winner Sr. to whom we linked Isaac Winner Jr. James is also father of the Lycoming Co., PA, Winners. Miss Siegel has published a pamphlet and a book on the subject which I am still reviewing. She does name the wife of Isaac Sr. as Rebecca ___.
Now to discuss ties of Abraham and Isaac - I found the following:
A. In the New Jersey State Archives in Supreme Court cases, I found the following which I believe is significant. We have already surmised above that Dover Isaac was almost certainly the son of Isaac Sr. of Middletown, Bucks Co., and that he married in 1776, left there shortly after 1779, and then shows up in 1783 in Dover. All of a sudden for just a very short time an Isaac shows up in Burlington as plaintiff with Abraham in a court case that begins in 1783. There is no Isaac before nor after in the area and the timeframe dovetails right into the sweet spot of 1779 to 1883 when Isaac is between Bucks Co. and Dover Township. The court cases:
-39304: Isaac and Abraham Winner vs. Jacob Shinn 1783-85 held at Burlington, Burlington Co.
-44555: Isaac Winner. Poor copy and I can't read any of the details. It is dated 1783 and is probably the same Isaac as above.
B. This statement is found on the Internet but without any source. We can't use it for documentation, but it is prescient: "Abraham had relatives in Bucks Co. who were Quakers - Isaac Sr and Jacob Winner."
Summary: We know Abraham did not have a son named Isaac at that time and it would be unusual to be partners with a cousin, so a conclusion of a brotherly connection is not out-of line. We could always argue it wasn't Isaac Jr., but Isaac Sr. who disappears from the scene in Bucks Co. in 1781 - but either way it ties Abraham to Isaac Sr.
John WINNER of GREAT EGG HARBOR:
There is much good documentation on this John and not necessary to repeat everything here. He apparently had two marriages.
The first marriage is per "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson: "Winner, John, Northampton, and Hannah Carr, Northampton, 1776 April 1." According to "The Carr Book," by Arthur R. Carr, 1947, Hannah was b. 10 Sep 1759 to Caleb Carr and she died 9 Aug 1778 in Mt. Holly (Northampton) in childbirth when their son Samuel was born 9 Aug 1778. The Carr book says he died three days later. The marriage was apparently out of Quaker meeting because we find in FHL book 974.961 K2m v.1 "Early Church Records of Burlington County, New Jersey," by Charlotte D. Meldrum, a reference to only one Winner in the entire book, which is in the Minutes of Mount Holly Monthly Meeting. "5th da, 4th mo, 1777... Hannah Winner, produced a paper acknowledging trouble of mind, for going out in marriage." We also find Hannah's father Caleb with 250 acres in the same area in which Abraham (but no other Winners) live (per Rootsweb accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Burlington County NJ - NJGenWeb; Early Tax List - Northampton Township, 1779"). The Carr book reports indicates he died 11 Sep 1783 and his buried next to his daughter. In any case this all places John Winner in Northampton just prior to his being in Great Egg Harbor.
John's second marriage is to Millicent Mapes for whom we have on record a will (and codicil) naming her three sons. We also have on record a will for her father Joseph Mapes in which he names his dau. Millicent Winner, his son-in-law John Winner, and his grandson Joseph Winner. Joseph Mapes was prominent in the Quaker community of Great Egg Harbor. John and Millicent has three sons: John, Joseph, and Amos - for whom we have marriage information. FHL film 1425085, it. 6, "Gloucester County, New Jersey, Marriage Records," by H. Stanley Craig, 1930:
-Joseph Winner and Millicent Caveller, 2-2-1803.
-John Winner and Abigail Doughty, 5-9-1812.
-Not reported for Amos. [Per Internet: He married Mary Brackney (from Burlington) September 5, 1805. There are also military records for him which says he was in the War of 1812 and in the War with Algiers in 1815. He was discharged July 10, 1817 with a "surgeons certificate of disability."]
-(As a side note, the same marriage records also has "Samuel Winner and Mary Thorn, 3-30-1813." Could it be John's son Samuel from his marriage to Hannah Carr who did not perhaps die three days after his mother as "The Carr Book" would have us believe?)
We also have a couple more records that place John Winner in Northampton with Abraham:
A. "The Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey," v. 37, p. 75, "New Jersey Rateables 1773-1774, Northampton Twp. of Burlington Co.":
-"John Winner sm"
-"Abraham Winner 315; 6c"
B. "Revolutionary Census of NJ," by Kenn Stryker-Rodda; List I (1773 & 1774):
-Abraham Winnor - Northhampton, Burlington Co.
-John Winnor - - Northhampton, Burlington Co.
Most significantly the following record was found a very specific record that ties Northampton Abraham and Great Egg John. Note that we also gain a name of Mary for Abraham's wife. FHL book 974.961 R28h "Burlington County, New Jersey, Deed Abstracts - Books A, B and C," by Richard S. Hutchinson, p. 41: "Book B, p. 35 - Abraham Winner to John Winner." "28 May 1787 - Abraham Winner … Township of Burlington … New Jersey and Mary his Wife ... [sold to] … John Winner of Great Egg Harbour … Gloucester … Whereas the Said Abraham Winner … [by deed from Joseph Butterworth and Sarah his Wife dated 29 May 1780 and from Samuel Shinn dated 1 February 1776 became seized of two certain parcels of land in the Township of Northampton … (for 260 pounds) … All these his two … Parcels ... of Land …. (adjacent land owners or names - Jacob Hilliard, Edward Hilliard, Edward Andrew, Nathan Gaskill, Cripps Estate) … (3 acres, 2 rods, 23 perches) … The other Piece … [adjacent land owners or names - Side of the Great Road called Gaskill's Lane, Hannah Belcher, Johanna Brow)] … (7 acres, 7 perches). Memorandum - (Before the execution of the above deed, Abraham Winner excepts two Small Pieces, the one sold by him to Abel Harker and the other to Isaiah Bishop Which is Within the above bounds.); (Signed - Abraham Winner, Mary Winner; witnesses - Charles Ellis, Daniel Ellis.)"
Summary: It is apparent that John shows up in the records at Northampton in conjunction with Abraham from 1773/4 to 1778. He then disappears by 1779 from the area because only Abraham shows up as the only Winner in the 1779 tax schedules (this evidently is just before Isaac shows up). We then find our John in Great Harbor per Great Egg Harbor, Gloucester Co., various lists for 1774, 1780, 1781 (Winer), 1782, 1783, 1785 (Winners), 1785, 1786, 1790, 1791, 1792, 1793, 1794, 1795, 1796, 1797, 1802. It appears that he had a short presence in Great Egg Harbor shortly in 1774 and then continuously from 1780 on. The 1787 deed between Abraham and John with their residences certainly confirms a family relationship.
Summary:
The marriages of Abraham in 1769, John in 1776, and Isaac in 1776 would indicate they were of the same generation and probably in that order of age. Interestingly all three appear to have married "out of meeting" from the Quakers. The connections and timelines seem to be more than coincidence. Isaac's apparent connection with Isaac Sr. in Middletown township, Bucks County, PA, would then argue all three must be tied together as probable brothers to most likely Isaac Winner Sr. Of course we cannot rule the taxman may have just called both Isaacs Sr. and Jr. to differentiate them in the locality and one of the other Middletown men could be their father. We see these potential Middletown individuals from tax lists to whom I add my comments:
-Isaac Winner, married, 1754, 1757, 1760 & 1762 listed next to Joseph, 1778 and 1779 as Sr. [By process of elimination, Isaac is the only one seemingly left standing for a potential father.]
-Samuel Winner, single, 1757, 1760 "Sam'l Winner at Joh. Winr.," 1762, 1778 married and next to John, 1779. [Samuel marries too late to be the father of our three Winners. Probably son of John Winner since they both disappear after 1778. A Samuel shows up as a son in John Winner's 1791 will who is probably this Samuel.]
-John Winner, married, 1757, (not listed in 1762), 1778 listed next to Samuel. [This is most likely the John who died and left a will in 1791. (1791, John Winner, Lower Makefield, will, #2356. John Winner of Lower Makefield Twp., Bucks, weaver. January 3, 1791. Proved January 23, 1791. Sons Samuel and John exrs. Ch. Rachel wife of Jacob Watson, Didwell wife of John Smith, Samuel, John, David, Joshua, and David [Moses?] Winner. Gdsns. Levi and John Terry sons of Joshua Terry. Wits: James Moon, Richard Neeld, Peter Vanhorn. Witnesses Amos Gregg and Amos Gregg, Jr.)]
-Joseph Winner, 1760 and 1762 listed next to Isaac. [Could this be Isaac Sr.'s father since he drops out of the record ca. 1762 and is close to him in the tax schedules? We also find the name Joseph used among Abraham's and John's sons.]
-Isaac Jr, married, 1778. [This is our Isaac that goes to Dover, NJ. and who married 1776.]
-James Winner, single, 1778. [Ernestine Siegel identifies James as a son of Isaac Sr.]
So from process of elimination, Isaac Winner Sr. appears to be the probable father. Subject to more research, Joseph Winner could perhaps be Isaac Sr.'s father or perhaps a brother.
There are two other interesting marriages reported in the 1770s for perhaps other close relations or even brothers to Abraham, John, and Isaac that will need closer scrutiny with further research:
A. FHL film 1320671, it. 5, the book "Historical and Genealogical Miscellany, Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey," by John E. Stillwell (Baltimore, 1970), p. 72, "Register of St. Mary's Church, Burlington, N.J.," p. 88: "Married - Sept. 29, 1774, Jacob Winner & Elizabeth Hellings." Note this is the same church in which Abraham was also married in 1769. The book "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, "Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents" adds a residence: "Winner, Jacob, Bucks, PA, and Elizabeth Helling, Bucks, PA, 1774 Sep 29." I have not seen ongoing records thereafter for Jacob in New Jersey, so I suspect he married "out of meeting" and returned to Pennsylvania. We do find a Bucks Co. tax record in 1778, "Lower Makefield, for Jacob Winner, married." There was another Jacob in Southampton Twp., Burks Co. who appears on a 1772 tax list then in probate: "1778, Jacob, weaver, Southhampton, adm., #1563"; couldn't find actual probate, but was administration only. A couple of loose unsubstantiated Worldconnect entries show that Jacob who married Elizabeth Helling was son of a Jacob in Bucks co. - probably should consider the possibility that Southampton Jacob could be father of Lower Makefield Jacob. No other entries in Bucks Co. for a Jacob after 1778. A more likely explanation and one that Ernestine Siegel mentions in her book is that these two Jacobs were in fact the one and the same with Jacob then dying relatively young. His age would be surmised from the earliest entry with him being at least 21.
B. "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, "Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents": "Winner, Amos, and Rebeca Cooper, 1779 May 1." We see the name Amos later used for a son of John Winner of Great Egg Harbor; this would point to perhaps some kinship. I have found no other pre-1800 entries for Amos in either New Jersey or Bucks Co., PA.
I don't pretend yet to have sorted out all the very early pre-1800 Winners in Bucks County, but we should look a little further into the very earliest ones to see if we can someday connect things in the middle to Isaac Sr. These are all the entries I can find so far that are pre-1760. There is probably some relationship but I can't yet tell if they were early brothers or fathers/sons.
A. We know from probate records that the earliest Winner we have knowledge of in Bucks County (and specifically Middletown Twp.) is John Winner, weaver, Middletown, 1748 probate adm., #628 (administration only with no will). He is probably also be the same John who was a witness to a deed in 1731. Some Internet chat reports John's wife was Didwell, but I have not yet searched for substantiation for this. We do see the John who was a weaver (just like 1748 John) and died in Lower Makefield Twp. in 1791 having a daughter who he named Didwell. (See note above.)
B. We know from the following that there was a Jacob Winner that died before 1753, married as a second husband to Sarah ___ (first husband William Hooper. Jacob could very well be a brother to 1748 John.
a "Deeds 1684-1763":
-Joseph Smith of Bristol Twp., 1753, to Mary Martin, widow, property sold in 1743 to William Hooper, who died intestate and sheriff sold land to Mary Martin and Sarah Winner, formerly Sarah Hooper.
-Sarah Winner, widow of Jacob, deed 1753 to Mary Martin.
b. "Will abstracts 1685-1785": 1753, Sarah Winner of Bristol Twp., son Anthony Hooper. Joseph Smith, executor.
C. "Will abstracts 1685-1785": 1754, Mentions land in Newtown on which "Joseph Winner lives after decease of wife." Principal of will, David Lavell, document does not say relationship but doesn't appear related.
As for the other pre-1800 Bucks Co. Winners, I have an abstract of all the entries I have been able to find to date for any researcher that would like to analyze, find patterns, or sort it out.
10. The book "Ocean County: Four Centuries in the Making," Pauline S. Miller (2000). The following quotes place our Isaac Winner in Stafford Township in 1794, indicate an early Quaker presence in the area (there was a Bucks Co., PA, Winner Quaker association), and refer to a migration to Ohio from the area (of which many Winners were a part):
P. 88: "Waretown, a small hamlet south of Oyster Creek, was settled in 1737 by Abraham Waier and his followers of Rogerine or Quaker Baptists. They had been driven out of Connecticut for disturbing the Puritan sabbath laws. Their offenses while sitting at meetings included men whittling hoe handles and women knitting or sewing. The group stayed in Waretown for for about eleven years... Most of his followers left Waretown to join others of their belief in Morris county in northern New Jersey..."
Pp. 89-92:
"The Original Stafford Township.
The First Petition for a County.
Just as their forbearers more than forty years earlier, the 883 inhabitants of Stafford Township in 1790 and the inhabitants of Eastern Burlington County considered the distance to Freehold in Monmouth County and to Mount Holly in Burlington County a hardship for voting and attending court, jail and other public busiÂness. Therefore, on October 8, 1793, thirty-five men signed a petiÂtion to establish a new county out of Shrewsbury Township in Monmouth County and Little Egg Harbor Township in Burlington County. The petitioners lived in the area from the south side of the Toms River to the Mullica River and from Batsto Furnace and Old Half Way in Burlington County to the ocean. A petition was filed on January 21, 1794, but the bill was referred to the February 12, 1794 sitting of the Legislature. This early attempt to form a county preÂdated the incorporation of Ocean County by fifty-seven years.
The boundary description began at the North Point of Island Beach at Cranberry Inlet, thence ran across the bay on a west course six miles to the mouth of the Toms River. The line then ran down the middle of the river about nine miles to the mouth of and down the Davenport Branch to Old Halfway and the Division Line called Keith Line. The line then turned southwest to Isaiah Webb's mill site then to Quaker Bridge on Batsto Creek. The line ran down the creek to Batsto Furnace then turned east down the Mullica River to the south cape of Flat Beach. It continued through Brigantine Inlet then north along the sea for twenty miles to Barnegat Inlet, then twelve miles along Island Beach to the place of beginning.
The petition further requested that a new courthouse and gaol be built where the largest number of lawful boats existed within the proposed county. The "Petitioners may be pleased to take into consideration and appoint the Court House at Manahaucking, Egg Harbor or wheresoever in your wisdom and goodness may seem meet."
Those petitioners were… [lists 51 men including Isaac Winner; none of the other names occur in my database.]
There are no records that indicate the reason the new counÂty was never legislated. One can only speculate that no decision could be reached as to the location of the new courthouse and jail "where the largest number of lawful boats existed within the proÂposed county?" There certainly must have been rivalry between the boat owners as to which community had the largest number of boats.
The majority of the signatures on the petition were from Bayville, Waretown, and Barnegat. Perhaps they had strong OpposiÂtion to the county seat being located in one of these villages, which would not be convenient for many sea captains along the Mullica River near the southern part of the county. However, there were only a few signatures from Manahawkin, West Creek, Tuckerton and the Mullica River area.
For whatever reason, the matter was dropped. It was more than another half of a century before another attempt was made to create Ocean County."
Pp. 93: The Original Dover Township
Dover Township in the Royal Colony of New Jersey, was a vast pine forest when it was set off from Shrewsbury Township in 1767. It was during the Reign of King George III, on January 24, 1767, that the few scattered saw mill owners and fishermen set forth to remedy this by presenting a petiÂtion to the Royal General Assembly, sitting in Burlington, to create the new Township of Dover. The area designated was from the Metedeconk River to Oyster creek and from the sea to the Burlington County line, containing 282,240 acres in a 441 square mile area. The Township of Dover was about twenty miles long and sixteen miles wide. It includÂed all of the present townships of Dover, Manchester, Berkeley, Lacey, Jackson, Plumstead, Lakewood, part of Brick, and all of the barrier islands from the mouth of the Metedeconk (Mantoloking) to Barnegat Light.
The first returns of land in the present Township of Dover from the Board of Proprietors of the Province of East Jersey were made on March 24, 1690 to Miles Forestor, Dr. John Johnstone and Gawer Drummond. Their lands included all of the area from Silver Bay to the river, then called Goose creek, westward to Long Swamp (now Brookside Drive). The Proprietors had purchased the land from the Indians between 1685 and 1690.
The new township name apparently was influenced by the first settlers to colonize the area. They were of English descent, mostly Quakers or former Quakers, who were the sons and grandsons of the Navesink English settlers from Gravesend Long Island. No official record has been found to authenticate who first called the township Dover."
Pp. 213-14:
"Many descendants of seafarers in the Union area began to migrate westward, beyond the Pine Barrens to the "Red Pipe Clay Country" in western Pennsylvania even before the township was established. By 1840 others had gone on to Michigan and Ohio. Almost all of the Woodmansee families from the Forked River area went to Ohio. Captain Christian Emson of Toms River and his famÂily led a contingent of settlers to lands he owned in Chillicothe, Ohio where he exÂpected to create his own development. It failed, and he reÂturned to New Jersey."
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"The Ancestry & Descendants of James Winner of Sussex Co., N.J. & Lycoming Co., Pa.," first edition; Editor: Ernestine Siegel, 1906 Watrous Avenue, Tampa, Florida, 33606; 1969; revised 1970, pp. 22-23; privately printed with copy in my possession. Ms. Siegel was a member of DAR. The following is part of a biography on James Winner who married Mary Parker and moved from Oxford Twp., Sussex, NJ to Lycoming, PA. (See notes of James Winner for the full transcript.) I don't believe the author had specific proof of the relationship between James and supposed brothers Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; however, I believe as does the author that they are brothers:
"...By legend, at the time James Winner migrated to Lycoming County, he had only two brothers still living, one in New Jersey, and one in Bucks County. Also by legend, he is said to have named his three sons for his three brothers. His elder brother was Abraham Winner of Mt. Holly, Burlington Co., New Jersey, an innkeeper and a New Jersey Revolutionary Soldier. The second brother Isaac was taxed at Middletown Township, Bucks Co., Pa. As early as 1779, although it is believed he was born in Burlington Co., N.J. The third brother, Jacob Winner, died in Southhampton Township, Bucks Co., Pa. in 1778. (Both Isaac and Jacob were weavers.) Dirck Hogeland signed bond for the estate. The father of James is considered to be Isaac Sr. who was also taxed in Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. In 1779 but then disappears from the tax lists. The mother of James is said to be Rebecca. His birth record eludes us as it is not known which side of the Delaware River he was born on. (His cousin James mentioned before, died in Warwick Township, Bucks Co, Pa. In 1796.) The marriage records of Isaac Jr. and Jacob Winner are found in the New Jersey Archives.
The Winner family in Lycoming Co., Pa. has always been tied to the Winner family of Philadelphia, which included William Winner, the artist, and Septimus Winner, the composer. After James served his apprenticeship in Middletown Twp., he moved to Bristol Township where his uncle Joseph Winner lived. James was taxed there as a weaver in 1781, probably living in the home of Joseph.
By tradition, this Joseph Winner of Bristol was third generation in America, born 1735 in New Jersey, son of Joseph, grandson of Capt. James. Joseph of Bristol was taylor, and had served in the Indian Wars in the 1750s. While James was in Bristol, one of Joseph's younger sons, Joseph born 1776 was only a small child. This 4th generation Joseph moved to Philadelphia and married Elizabeth Evans. His son Joseph, 5th generation, moved to Lycoming County in the 1840s, but had moved back to Philadelphia by 1850. However, on the 1850 census in Lycoming County is one Seth Winner, age 64 (born 1786) living in Porter Township with his wife Rebecca and son Robert. This family probably belongs to the Philadelphia branch also.
After spending a year at Bristol, James Winner, the weaver, moved to Falls, Pa. and was taxed there in 1782 on two cows and a horse. Previously, in 1779 his uncle James' Estate was taxed at Falls. This elder James Winner served as a soldier in 1745, and again is listed as a soldier at Newton in 1756.
From Falls, James Winner moved across the river to Oxford Furnace in Sussex County and married Widow Mary Collins, probably in 1785. She was born Mary Parker, Jr., daughter of Humphrey Parker, Jr., a Welsh Quaker from Gwynned, Pa., and his wife, Tamar Scott, whom he had married at the First Presbyterian Church in Philadelphia in 1744..."
MARRIAGE:
1. "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents: "Winner, Isaac, Bucks, PA, and Hannah Searl, Bucks, PA, 1776 Nov. 9." (Familysearch, source film 888709, vol. W, p. 474.)
2. There is a concern about the birth date of Amy Winner 16 May 1803. The other children of Isaac and Hannah were born from about 1778 to 1890. Isaac and his second wife Naomi who he married 27 Oct 1804 then had two more children in 1807 and 1811. Amy's birthdate stands separated potentially meaning there were other children born to Isaac and Hannah from 1790 to 1800 or that perhaps Isaac had another unknown wife to whom Amy was born.
3. County of Monmouth Archives and Records Center, 125 Symmes Drive, Manalapan, NJ 07726, 732-308-3771, Marriage Returns Box A2h: "This is to certify that Isaac Winner and Neomi Philups was lawfully joined together in matramony on the 27th day of October before a comptiant number of witneses by me - Daniel Stouts one of the Justices of the Peace in the township of Dover in the county of Monmouth. Witness my hand this 27th Day of October 1804. Daniel Stouts, Justice." Note Daniel Stout lived in village of Goodluck which is close to Waretown and Forked River.
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