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- RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. The Latvian Archives is online and I have reviewed all Registers for Pilten. Registers are in German and I indicate what I don't understand. I extracted all Herzenbergs of which the following excerpts apply to this family:
"<http://www.lvva-raduraksti.lv/en/menu/lv/13/ig/13/ie/5507/book/30316.html>
-Image 144. Has two columns of ages after the name with the first being 1850 and the second 1854; presumably if missing in the second column then probably deceased in the interim. I believe the Archives indicates they had a 1851 revision list, which may be what they call the first column; however, it appears more like 1850 in reality age-wise. List # 23, Family #40:
-171 Elias Lemchen Herzenberg, 46, 50 [Has comment needing translation with dates 1840 and 1854.]
-his wife Blume
-172 son Israel, 30, 34
-his wife Leye
-173 his son Abraham, 14-1/2, 18-1/2
-174 his son Levin, 2, 6
-175 son Jossel, 27, - , Jossel died in 1851
-his wife Riffke
-176 son Naphthal, 23, 27
-177 son Hosias, 16, 20
-178 son Abraham, 10, 14
-Image 205. Has two columns of ages after the name with the first being 1858 and the second 1871; presumably if missing in the second column then probably deceased in the interim. There are several comments with this family requiring translation; however, Feigmanis offered a translation in his 1997 report to Harold Hodesas follows: "…mentioned that for this family somebody was take[n] in army; as well in 1854 some Jew without passport go in army." He comments: "Because conditions of military service were very difficult and 25 years long…, rich Jews try to find some poor Jew or Christian [to] go in the army for them. Also "no passport" Jews might be [caught] and given [to] the army." List #1, Family #11:
-50 Elias Lämmchen Herzenberg, 54, 67
-his wife Blume
-51 his son Israel, 37-1/2, 50
-52 his son Abraham, 22-1/2, 35-1/2
-53 his son Levin, 10, 23
-54 his son Joel, 6, 19
-55 his son Jossel, 4, 17.
-56 son Naphthaly, 31, 44
-his wife Nesse
-57 his son Lämme, 1-1/2, 14-1/2
-58 son Hosias, 24, 37
-59 son Abraham, 18, 31
-Family 91, 372 [Cukal?] Marcus Bär, 8, 21 [Note: This is the individual showing up in Ancestry.com as Marcus Herzenberg, b. 1850, son of Bär. From this context of this entry, he is not a Herzenberg and evidently a lodger or something. Bär appears to be used as a last name in this entry.]
2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. Sources given are HL for Leonardo Herzenberg and FA for Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes). I am unsure as to what AE stands for. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Abraham, Abracham.
HL 102 shows b. 1840 in Mitau, d. 1901 in Tallinn, Estonia.
FA 002 shows b. 1840.
AE shows b. 1840, d. 23 Apr 1900.
BIOGRAPHY:
1. 28 Jul 2007 Http://www.herzenberg.net/leo/htmlrh/Content.html copyrighted by Leo Herzenberg:
"An meinen Sohn (To my son) Leonhard Herzenberg von (from) Robert Herzenberg. Memoirs written during the 1940's." Translated during the 1990's by Leonardo (Leonhard) Herzenberg. The entire memoir is quite lengthy and included in its entirety in my notes with Joseph Herzenberg, the original known ancestor, in this database. The following is only the portion dealing with this part of the family:
"...GREAT-UNCLE Abraham Herzenberg, Mitau, and descendants. [39] Uncle Abraham in Mitau was the youngest son of my great-grandfather Elias Lemchen Herzenberg. My grandfather Naftali was the second oldest, and I will write more about him later. The second youngest was Uncle Hosias, whom I did not know. When I went to the Russian front in 1916, while passing through Warsaw on the way to Minsk, I spent an hour in his house. But I no longer remember anything. Of his sons I knew Heinrich and Leopold very casually. Heinrich married Lilly Herzenberg, the window of Meisel and lived in Riga. Uncle Abraham I still knew, he died young in 1901, I don't know how old he was, but he was already then a multiple grandfather. But he was young in comparison with the usual age limit of that [40] generation, which was about 85 years. I was more friendly with his children than I was with my fathers's siblings. In part this was that they were closer to my age, especially the younger ones, partly because one could correspond with them, which was impossible with my fathers siblings.Uncle Abraham was married with aunt Therese Herzenberg. He was the brother of my grandfather, she the sister of my grandmother. He the uncle of my father, she the aunt of my mother, so we were doubly related.
As a thirteen year old boy my father once took me along to Mitau to the house of uncle Abraham; when I was 15 I was there a second time and he had died shortly before that, relatively young, perhaps fortunate for him since he did not have to experience the breakup of his home. It [41] was a typical Buddenbrook fate, but completed in one generation.
Uncle Abraham may have studied in Mitau. When I first saw him he was the head of the Abraham Herzenberg department store in Mitau. He was the representative of Finish textile factories. He must have been very well to do, probably the richest of all the brothers. The house was old, huge, with three stories. On the lower level was the store, storage rooms, dining room, kitchen, yard, and a giant garden. It was fall, and along with Harry, Clara, and Roberta we picked ripe pears from towering pear trees. The house was run by the old traditions. All unmarried employees down to the last apprentice lived and ate in the house. Imagine, Uncle Abraham, aunt Therese, 10 children, the various nannies and teachers [erzieher], among them the old limping french aristocrat Madame Dupin de Saint Andree,[ 41] the employees and the apprentices, thus having around 20 people at the table, and in addition always visitors, either family or commercial travelers. One finds such a thing in old books, and it made a very great impression on me. I was even more impressed by the sons who took photographs and gave me lots of copies of family pictures to take along. Unfortunately the copies were not fixed. They kept getting darker until all outlines disappeared; only too late did I discover why, and could no longer save the pictures. A single group picture had been fixed, and is in the album. Aunt Therese was a very energetic, able, and smart woman. Just like uncle Abraham she stood out from the circle of her siblings. One did not deal with the Balts, [43] but with the peaks of the Russian administrative aristocracy. Half joking, half mocking, aunt Therese was called the "Grand Duchess of Kurland." Even when she was older, when there was no trace of the earlier wealth, when she travelled around as a stranger in various pensions in Germany, Russia, and Sweden with more poor than good support from her children, she still carried herself regally. She was no longer pretty, squinted, and had some beard hair, but her speech, her posture, and her appearance, wearing the mourning clothes she had worn for 30 years after uncle Abraham's death, made a deep impression on everyone she met.
When Uncle Abraham died the eldest son, Leo, was married in Petersburg. Also the daughter Fanny. Laura and Alice were married in Moscow, and Sophie in Mitau. At home were Ludwig, [44] in the firm, Harry who was still in the gymnasium, and the two girls, Roberta, of my age, and Klara, a little older. Ludwig, whom the mother worshipped, took over running the business. Harry entered the business as an apprentice. Ludwig decided on moving the business to Riga, why I don't know. The beautiful old house in Mitau was sold. Everything in Mitau was liquidated. Instead of the princely living in Mitau, aunt Therese moved into an old dark rental house on the Schwimmstrasse in Riga. I believe she had no happy time there. I don't know how Ludwig ruined the business so quickly. It ended when I was on a vacation trip to Germany in the summer of 1904, when I received the news from my father that I should visit aunt Therese in Berlin. [45] I met her, with Klara and Roberta, in a shabby room of a pitiful pension near the Elsasser gate. They had just had lunch, which consisted of a can of sardines with bread. The firm Abraham Herzenberg in Riga had failed. They had lost everything, and had fled to Germany, and were totally dependent on the support of children and siblings...
From the Mitau germ cell [keimzelle] Abraham's children first spread to the triangle of Mitau, Petersburg, and Moscow. Due to the world war they wandered to Germany and France. Of the 15 grandchildren I mentioned, I know the locations of a very few. Julius' children in Houston, Fanny's daughter in Palestine, Laura's son in Saigon. I have no idea of the whereabouts of the children of Leo, and Alice. Harry's were last in Vienna, Sophie's daughter in Riga, Runkel's children in Warsaw, Robert in Stockholm, and Lenka in Marseille. Scattered over half the globe, with almost no relationship, and the parents were such a close bunch of siblings."
2. The following undated paper was written late 1969 in Nice, France by Catherine Werblovsky Olympieff (also known as Ekaterina Werblovskaya Olympieva) at the request of Patrick Landau through his aunt Alice Nikitina. Patrick's father, Vladimir Landau, even though he was Catherine's cousin, had less knowledge on the family then Catherine. Catherine was the granddaughter of Edouard and Rebecca Herzenberg. The letter was written a couple of years before Catherine's death after she entered into an assisted care facility in Nice. The paper was recently found among personal items previously gathered about 1969 by her daughter Irene Nadia de Lanskoy Petersen. Portions of the letter were written in three languages: English, French, and Russian. Irene, in transcribing the letter, notes that the letter was hard to follow and to make sense of. Irene's transcription dated 31 Jul 2007 with her notes added in [ ].
"What concerns the father and mother of our mother's: Mother's father: Edouard Ocipovitch Herzenberg [or Gerzenberg] Edward son of Joseph Herzenberg born: in Mitava [or Mittau] not far ___, Baltic Provinces - not far from Riga. He died at 76 years of age (had diabetes and malaria) from lung congestion after flu. His wife was his cousin.
Rebecca Herzenberg also married a first cousin. I am not sure of the name of her father; she died in Moscow when I was 6 years old (70 years ago). [Death would be approximately 1899?]
They were probably married in Mitawa and came to Moscow young, because all their children were born in Moscow. The eldest 1) Elizabeth 2) Sonja [or Sonia] (Sofia) mother of Manja or Mania who now lives in Moscow, who had a sister Nadja or Nadia who was born in Moscow. Sonia's husband was Adolf Schneider - son of Aaron Schneider - who had 3 more sons: Nicolas, Alexander, Serge and a daughter Elizabeth Schneider. She got married with Martin Behr (English nationality); they had two children and lived in Moscow. Mrs. Elizabeth Behr died in London (after the Russian Revolution she lived in France, later in England.) Her brother Adolf Schneider was a brother-in-law of our mother's of course.) [This is a repeat of the above.] The Behrs had 2 children. Elisabeth Behr died in London (probably her husband Martin Behr died before.) Mrs. Behr's daughter Olga died in London about a year ago [1968-69?], her brother George Behr still lives in London is married (has 1 daughter who is married too and has 2 boys, 8 and 7.
So my mother Elisabeth was the eldest daughter of Edward and Rebecca Herzenberg born in Moscow like her sister Sonia, the next sister Flora born in Moscow. Flora, married Joseph Offenbacher, had one son Lotar (my first cousin as well as yours). She, her husband, and son died in Germany during the war of Hitler (son Lothar). [Irene notes that another family account says that Lothar committed suicide on account of the war.] [His father] Joseph Offenbacher had an older brother Vasily [William or Wilhelm] Offenbacher who married a cousin of our mother's - Fanny, daughter of Abra[ha]m (whom all children of Edward Herzenberg used to call Uncle Abraham.) He was the husband of Grandfather Edward Herzenberg's sister Theresa. His family name was also like all: Herzenberg. Theresa Herzenberg had many children - daughter Fanny, sons Ludwig, Harry, and 2 other sons and another daughter Sophia married to another Herzenberg (all those marriages were between cousins) who had three children, Robby (Robert) who lives in Sweden and 2 daughters Clara and Roberta (died in Riga - Bolshevik Revolution). [I am not sure if Clara and Roberta are correct for this family grouping.] After Flora Herzenberg, the 4th daughter was my Aunt Anjuta [Anna Herzenberg-Landau]. Then there was another one Genga (Eugenie) married Harry Taube from Riga - were killed by Hitler's army. She was the 5th daughter of Edward Herzenberg. The 6th was Lilja [Lilia] (1st wife of Uncle Max Landau - died in Davos, Switzerland from TB.) Then was another daughter Milja, died very young (she was the 7th daughter). The youngest daughter Tonya [Tonia] died in Moscow. Then there were two brothers, the oldest Ivan (John) married a French young girl from Mussidan, Dordogne, France. She was daughter of the Mayor of that town. Died in the north of Russia where - she was sent sick and was sent with her to Mourmansk (north of Russia). Uncle Vanja's [Vania, Ivan, John all same name wife Lydia died there [note her maiden name was Lydie Buisson]. Uncle Vanja died too in Bolshevik Revolution. Their 3 children: Micha (Michel) died probably in Moscow; his brother Andrei (Andre) Herzenberg and Suzanne Hindzee (Herzenberg) - 1st husband (French) Volant. She has a daughter in Toronto married in Toronto (Alja [or Alice Nikitina] knew her) who has two children, boy and girl. The father's family name is A. [Albert?] Statter - wife Lydie (Suzanne's daughter) - son Albert. [Irene's note: last known address was 33 Stonegate Road, Toronto, Canada, M8Y-1V8; phone 416-251-6295.]
There was yet other families related to us through our mother's. It was a well known dentist. His name was Kovarsky. His wife was the cousin of our mother's. They had a lot of children - 3 brothers Misha (Michael), Leva (Leon), 2 daughters Choura (Alexandra). Chura who now is same age as Suzanne [Herzenberg Hindzee] - the only one alive. I forget the name of the eldest brother deceased. Manja (Mania) in Moscow knows more about that family. What was the name of the mother cousin of our mother's-probably it was yet another of the Herzenberg family. As Alja [Alice Nikitina] will be going to Moscow she will be able to find out more form Manja [Mania]. Then there was yet another family related to the wife of our grandfather through the husband or wife Idelson. There was a girl Lisa Idelson and her brother. I think that Manja must know something about them. They lived in Moscow. I used to go see them with my mother when I was about 8 or 10 years old.
Now George Behr has written from London thanking me for my sympathy condolences on account of the death of his sister Olga Behr. She must have been older than 78 years. he thought that his aunt on his father's side, Nina Karlovna died in Moscow, as well as his cousin Leija, but I think it is relatives on the side of his father Bahr, and the cousin is perhaps of the Schneider family (it is possible that the cousin is still living). All these people lived in Moscow.
Now what concerns the Packschwer family. The one that came to see you with the Vietnamese wife has passed away. His name was Julien Packschwer born in Vitebesk, Russia. He was 72. His younger brother Saveijn (Sahva) engineer in London named himself Packshaw, died in England 3 weeks before Julien, leaving a widow (2nd marriage) and 2 children. It was the death of his younger brother that caused reaction on Julien Packshwer. He died 3 weeks after him. He was found on a street in Nice, France with a cerebral hemorrhage-fell in the street. Police took him to the hospital St. Rock where he died at 19 hours in the evening and remained in a coma. His car 2 CV (small) stayed in the parking where he had left it. It was only his Vietnamese wife [Mado] returning from Saigon 1 month after his death that was able to retrieve that car from the parking. Yet another day or two, it would have been impounded. But as it was the widow herself then came. They did not charge her anything. But as the car was her husband's-she has to wait by inheritance law to be able to sell it and divide up in 4 parts to his children. The eldest son of another marriage Leon is an eye doctor in Paris, then 3 other children. Oldest Robert in Montreal, CA; another son in ___ was in the navy for 3 years. The oldest was in the Air force, married a girl from Morocco - they are going to have a child soon. The daughter Irene married, has a little boy, the husband is serving in the military; they live in Cayrons near Vence, France in the Packshwer house. The widow/mother Mado inherited ¼ of the sum, the children ¾ divided in 4 for each of the 4 children. Through a real estate in Vence, Julien's house of 1000 sq. meters is worth 18 million francs. If the children keep the house, they will in turn need to give on fourth of the cost to the widow who also has the right to half of his monthly pension of 30,000 francs. She came to see me day before yesterday and told me all these details. So here you have it-the relatives. The mother of the Packshwer father was 1st cousin of our mother's through the daughter of the sister of our grandfather Edward Herzenberg maiden name Theresa Herzenberg died in Nice, born I think in Mitawa [Mitau], Baltic Provinces. She was buried with her husband in Nice at the Caucade cemetery.
Now I add what George Behr wrote from London that his wife Janet has seen Aunt Anjuta [Anna Herzenberg] in Monte Carlo, then he wrote about his cousin in Moscow who he thinks has passed away (he is going to find out about it from Manja-he asked their address in Monaco). She was the daughter of the oldest sister Polina Aronovna of his mother. Here is what concerns that family... [Balance of letter missing]."
SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/
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Chris & Julie Petersen's Genealogy
Abt 1840 - 1900 (~ 60 years)