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Ambrose Frederick

Male 1818 - 1884  (65 years)


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  • Name Ambrose Frederick 
    Born 14 Oct 1818  of German Flatts, Herkimer, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 18 May 1884  Orient Township, Osceola, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I3570  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Philip Frederick,   b. Abt 1776, Warrensbush (now Florida), Tryon (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1830, of Clarendon, Orleans, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 55 years) 
    Mother Catherine Germon or Germont,   b. Abt 1778, of Mohawk, Tryon (now Herkimer), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1830, of Clarendon, Orleans, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 53 years) 
    Married Abt 1797  , Montgomery, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F184  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Cecelia Northrup,   b. Abt 1831, , , Pennsylvania, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Sep 1851, of Ingham Township, Ingham, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 20 years) 
    Married 11 Apr 1850  Vevay Township, Ingham, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F1805  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Melissa Northrup,   b. 5 Nov 1828, , , Pennsylvania, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 Aug 1871, Orient, Osceola, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 42 years) 
    Married 7 Aug 1851  Vevay Township, Ingham, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Morris or Horace Frederick,   b. 13 Dec 1852, of Ingham Township, Ingham, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 Oct 1901, Marquette, Marquette, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 48 years)
     2. Cora or Corey Frederick,   b. 1 Nov 1856, , , Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 May 1887, Orient Township, Osceola, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 30 years)
     3. Herbert Frederick,   b. 12 Jan 1858, of Fairplain Township, Montcalm, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Jul 1889  (Age 31 years)
     4. Elnora Frederick,   b. 2 Nov 1860, Evert, Montcalm, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Sep 1927, Independence Township, Oakland, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years)
     5. Sarah Frederick,   b. 5 Dec 1866, of Fairplain Township, Montcalm, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1891  (Age 24 years)
     6. Kate Frederick,   b. 22 Sep 1868, of Fairplain Township, Montcalm, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Sep 1961, of Fork Township, Mecosta, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 93 years)
     7. Hattie Frederick,   b. 29 Nov 1870, Fairplain Township, Montcalm, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 Aug 1871, Orient, Osceola, Michigan, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F1714  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. Rootsweb Worldconnect 8 Jan 2006 database "meandlee" of Lisa McGuigan Ambrose Frederick b. 14 Oct 1818 in New York, d. 18 May 1884 in Orient, Osceola, Michigan of old age, aged 65 years, 7 mos., and 4 days. Served in the Civil War.
      Kerry's note: I do not see the name of Ambrose Frederick come up in Civil War indices.

      2. Censuses:
      1830 US: Clarendon Twp., Orleans, New York, p. 13 of 24:
      Phillip Frederick, males: 2@10-15 (Matthew and Ambrose), 1@20-30 (Unknown; can't be Peter since he died 1827); 1@40-50 (Philip); females: 1@10-15 (unknown), 1@15-20 (Herriott), 1@50-60 (Catherine).

      1850 US: Ingham, Ingham, Michigan, p. 34b, house 305, family 305 [note that Matthew D. Frederic lives 7 doors away]:
      Ambrose Fredericks, 32, farmer, $80 real estate, NY.
      Cecilia Fredericks, 19, PA. [Cecilia was probably John Torrey's daughter judging from age, that the other Torrey children were also born in PA, and that the families are together.]
      John Torrey, 43, farmer, Unknown.
      Isabelle Torrey, 15, PA.
      John Torrey Jr., 11, PA.

      1860 US: Fairplain, Montcalm, Michigan, p. 705, dwelling #214, family #37:
      Ambrose Frederick, 42, farmer, $500 real estate, $150 personal property, NY.
      Melissa, 32, PA.
      Morris, 7, MI.
      Cora, 4, MI.
      Herbert, 2, MI.

      1870 US: Greenville P.O., Fair Plains Township, Montcalm, Michigan, p. 120a, dwelling #186 family #189:
      Ambrose Fredrick, 52, day laborer, $600 personal property, NY.
      Malissa, 40, keeping house, PA.
      Horace, 18, MI.
      Cora, 13, MI.
      Herbert, 11, MI.
      Elenor, 9, MI.
      Sarah, 4, MI.
      Kate, 2, MI.

      1880 US: Orient, Osceola, Michigan, household 108, family 111 (next door is son-in law Alex McKinzie and Ambrose's daughter Cora; three doors away is son-in-law William H. Lee and Ambrose's daughter Elnora):
      Ambrose Fredrick, 62, farmer, widowed, NY NY NY.
      Herbert, son, 22, works on farm, MI NY Florida.
      Katie, 11, dau., MI NY Florida.

      3. David Fry, a descendant of David Frederick through is daughter Mary Elizabeth Frederick Gibbs has four pages of dog-eared pages from a family bible which he believes to be David's. There is no other known extant samples of David Frederick's handwriting except for his signature when he was in his 70's on his Mexican War pension application forms. There is no publisher nor publishing date. David received them through his mother. His contact info is 195 Shady Hill Lane, Double Oak, TX, 75077, 817-430-9432, . I am not convinced that the bible was fully in David's possession his whole life since it was passed down through his daughter Mary Ellen/Elizabeth Frederick Gibbs. The names are heavily slanted towards the Evarts extended family and not Ingersolls nor Winners; Evarts would be Mary E.'s main interest of course since her mother was Polly Evarts, David's first wife. As for David's wife Mary Ann Winner, his last, it only gives the birth of one child and not the others which seems suspicious if it were in his possession at that later time. The bible was probably with David with his first two wives and their children since they were all born and correctly recorded before the Nauvoo exodus. After the exodus from Illinois, David separates from his daughter when he joins the Mormon Battalion, hence the brevity of information on events beyond Nauvoo. Even Mary Ann Winner's death is not noted whereas it is for his first two wives. Also note the wording of David's two wives' death; example "Polly Evarts the wife of David Frederick..." The use of "the" wife sounds more third person. Another concern would be the custody of the book; David lived the last part of his life and died at his son David Jr.'s home which would make one think that if it was with David, it would have been passed down through his son's line. The bible was probably given to Mary, David's only daughter with him in Iowa, when he joined the Battalion. It apparently remained with her. There are 36 entries of which I cite David Frederick's siblings as follows [with my notes bracketed]:
      Abraham G. Frederick married to Miss Adelia Annis Oct. the 16th AD 1825. [David's brother.]
      David Frederick was born September the 15th AD 1801.
      Abraham G. Frederick was born Nov. the 27th AD 1802. [David's brother.]
      Adelia Frederick was born April the 3rd AD 1809. [Wife to Abraham.]
      Oliva A. Frederick was born March the 21st 1827. [Abraham and Adelia's child.]
      Abram C. Frederick was born May the 13th 1829. [Abraham and Adelia's child.]
      Ambrose Frederick was born Oct. the 14th AD 1818. [Probably David's brother.]
      Matthew Frederick was born April 14th AD 1820. [Probably David's brother.]
      Peter F. Frederick dide[sic] March the 27th AD 1827 in the 17 year of his age.
      Abraham G. Frederick dide Febuary the 20th AD 1830 in the 27th year of his age. [David's brother.]

      4. BLM land patent information available online at www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch: Homestead of 80 acres granted to Ambrose Frederick 20 Sep 1876 at Ionia, Osceola, Michigan. Land described is SE quarter of the SW quarter, and SW quarter of the SE quarter of section 18, in township 17 N of range 7 W in the District of Land subject to sale at Ionia, MI. The actual homestead certificate 2878, application 5381, signed by Pres. Ulysses S. Grant, can be seen on line.

      5. Ambrose is probably one of the uncles in Michigan referred to in the following transcription of a letter from David Frederick living in San Bernardino, to daughter Mary in Utah, April 18, 1853; original with David Fry: "My daughter Marry, I improve the opertunity of writing a few lines. I am well and hav enjoned the blessing of health ever sinsens I came to this place and I hope that you are injoying the same. I did not write the last mail, it left so soon I had not time. The wether is warm and plesant and all is pease with us and the Lord has blessed us in everything that we have undertaking & I feel to adore his name for the same. I intended to write sister in Michigan and uncales unto as hav a mile from the coste to this place and to Salt Lake therefore I hope that we will apprciate the blesing and write often. I hope you will excuse all misstake and write every opertunity, this from your Father in haste. I pray God my hevenly Father to bless you with health and all needful blessing and prezurv life that we may beholde each other face to face again is my prare, Amen /signed/ David Frederick"

      6. Received 30 Jul 2003 from Frederick descendant and researcher Mary Lou Spaulding, 1502 Haney Dr., Hays, KS 67601, 785-628-6465. The following is a partial excerpt concerning the following relation to David Frederick:
      1838-1867; Ingham Co. Michigan Marriages (FHL book 977.426 V 25m):
      P. 63: Ambrose Frederick, 30, Ingham Twp. and Cecilia Northrup, 19, Vevay, 11 Apr 1850, by H. Parker, J.P. Rherben Dermuth (or Demuth) and Choney Converse, Vevay, Witnesses. 2:188.
      P. 63: Ambrose Frederick, 31, Ingham Twp. and Miss Melissa Northrup, 22, Vevay, 7 Aug 1851, at house of Thomas Northup, Vevay, by Hiram Parker, J.P. Thomas Northrup and Emily Northrup, Vevay. Witnesses. 2:207-208.
      (MLS note: I mention Ambrose and Mathew Frederick, marriages and Land Records. These two young men are mentioned in David's Bible Records and have land just across the border from David when he was in Handy Township, Livingston County, Michigan. Whether they are relatives or not will have to be searched and confirmed or not. There are also a number of Fredericks in Washtenaw County who have names similar to some of those found in our Fredericks family. However, there are also several families in both these Counties with the name Frederick who migrated from northern Michigan, and are not related to our Frederick family.)
      1840; Census Washtenaw Co., Michigan - doesn't give townships.
      Alex Frederick, male 1(under 5) 1(30-40) 1(60-70) female 1(20-30).
      Orrin Jefferds, male 1(30-40) female 1(30-40) 1(20-30).
      1840 Early Land Owners and Settlers of Livingston County, Michigan, 1828-1870. FHL book US/CAN 977.436 R2ca:
      1843; Poll List, Bridgewater Twp., pg. 71 does not appear in the 1845 twp. census:
      Alexander Frederick
      Mathew Frederick
      1850 & 1854; AIS Michigan:
      Ambrose Frederick, Ingham Co., MI, 068, Ingham.
      Mathew D. Frederic, Ingham Co., MI, 069, Ingham 1850.
      1850; Ingham Co., Marriage, Michigan, (FHL film 0976571):
      Pg. 188: Ambrose Frederick to Cecelia Northrup. State of Michigan, County of Ingham, 394, I hereby certify that, Ambrose Frederick of Ingham age 30 years and Ceclia Northrup of Vevoy age 19 years were by me this day joined in marriage according to law in Vevoy in presence of Rheuben Demuth and Chaucy Converse of Vevay. Vevoy April 11th 1850. H. Toiben, J. of Peace. A true copy of the original recorded this 6th day of May 1850. H.P. Atwood, Clerk.
      Pg. 207-208: Ambrose Frederick to Melissa Northrup, 463. I hereby certify that Mr. Ambrose Frederick of the township of Ingham in the County of Inghamn and State of Michigan of the age of 31 years and Miss Melissa Northrup of Vevoy in the county and state aforesaid of the age of twenty two years on the seventh day of August A.D. 1851 at the residence of Thomas Northrup in the township of Vevoy in said county of Ingham were by me joined in marriage agreeably to law and that there were present at the time of such marriage and witnessed the same. Thomas Northrup and Emily Northrup both of Vevoy in said county of Ingham. Thiam Parker Justice of the Peace. A true copy of the original recorded this 11th Day of Sept 1851 P. Law Clerk.
      1850; Ingham Co., Michigan Census;
      305 - Ing.
      Ambrose Frederick, 32, Farmer 80 acres, NY.
      Cecelia Frederick, 19, PA.
      John Torrey, 43, farmer 800 acres, not known.
      Isabelle Torrey, 15, PA.
      John Torrey, Jr., 11, PA.
      312 - Ing.
      Mathew D. Frederick, 39, Farmer 150, NY.
      Harriet Frederick, 28, PA.
      Ira J. Frederick, 3, MI.
      Andrew S. Frederick, 7 mo., MI.
      1852 Ingham Co., Michigan Land Records (FHL film 1010409):
      Grantor: Ambrose Frederick. Grantee: Matthew D. Frederick, pg. 519, 1852.
      1860 Ingham Co., Michigan Census, pg. 78 (FHL film 0803545), Ingham Twp., 6 Jul 1860:
      M.D. Frederick, 42, m, farmer, 1300, 500, NY.
      H.A. Frederick, 38, f, Den.
      A. Frederick, 10, m, MI, school.
      C.E. Frederick, 8, m, b. MI, school.
      1867; Abstracts of the Early Probate, (FHL book US/Com 977.426) pg. 2a, Record of Ingham Co. 1838-1869:
      #281, Thomas Northrup, dcd. PA. __ Aug 1863 by Emily Northrop. Thomas Northrop of Vevay of there 11 Mar 1863 intest. Heirs: petitioner (widow), children Malissa Frederick (wid. of Ambrose Frederick of Montcalm, Co.) and V. Harcourt Northrop of Ingham Co., Admi. to self Adm. bd. 21 Sep 1863 to James Fuller - Inventory Mentions land in Vevay. Disch. of Admin. 22 Jan 1867 to James Fuller.
      #118, Demuth, Jonathan, dcd. PA 22 Apr 1856 by John W. Phelps, creditor. Jonathan Demuth of Vevay of there 16 Jan 1856 intest. Heirs: dau. Emma Demuth in Lenawee Co., Reuben Demuth in California, nephew Mattias Fredericks, one daughter, George Demuth in Ingham Co., widow in Ingham Twp. Repair of estate to Benjamin Demuth 18 Mar 1857. Final acct Petition 12 Nov 1860 by John W. Phelps Adm."

      7. Gendis Search: Michigan Department of Community Health indicates that Ambrose and Melissa Frederick had a daughter named Hattie who died in Sylvan, Osceola, MI 16 Aug 1871 at age 8 months. Indicates she was born at "Fairplanes" due to inflammation of throat.

      BIRTH:
      1. Per bible record of brother David Frederick cited above. Also per death age reported at time of death.

      DEATH:
      1. Gendis Search: Michigan Department of Community Health: Ambrose Frederick, d. 18 May 1884, ledger p. 22, record 71, at Orient, Osceola, MI, white, widowed, age 65y7m4d, old age, b. New York, farmer, no parents' names, record date 27 Ma 1885.

      ACTION:
      1. Was erroneously sealed to a wife which I named Cecilia or Melissa Torrey. Now that I have marriage records, it appears that these were two separate women albeit probable sisters. It also appears that their maiden surname was Northrup.