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John Greswold

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  • Name John Greswold 
    Born Kenilworth, Warwick, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Solihull, Warwick, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I3249  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Family Huggeford,   b. of Hulverle Hall, Solihull, Warwick, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Ralph or Rudolphus Greswold,   b. Solihull, Warwick, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Ann Greswold,   b. Solihull, Warwick, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F1632  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. FHL book 929.242 G868f "The Greswold Family, 12 Generations in England," researched and edited by Robert L. and Esther G. French, comp. by Coralee Griswold [Wethersfeld, CT; 1999]. The authors standardize spelling as Greswold for England and Griswold for America. As of 2012, it appears that this book is the most current evolution of the Griswold ancestry and includes all previous research up to 1999 when it was published. (It also supersedes the author's own work in 1990 for the later English generations). See notes in this database of the original Griswold for a more detailed explanation of the various sources and a bibliography of previously published books that the authors include in this genealogical compilation.
      "John1 Greswold was born in Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England and is the earliest Greswold who can be related to the family of Kenilworth. He married a daughter of William HUGGEFORD of Hulverle Hall, Solihull, Warwickshire, England. John died in Solihull,
      Warwickshire, England. They had 2 children:
      i. Ralph (Rudolphus) Greswold.
      ii. Ann Greswold, born in Solihull, Warwickshire, England. She married Thomas HAWES of Shirley about 1311. Thomas fl. (flourished) 1311. [Warwickshire Antiquarian, quoted by Glenn Griswold, also by Pemberton, pp. 38, 39. It is interesting to note that 300 years later, the Greswolds returned to Kenilworth.]"

      2. FHL book 929.242 G868f "The Greswold Family, 12 Generations in England," researched and edited by Robert L. and Esther G. French, comp. by Coralee Griswold [Wethersfeld, CT; 1999]. The authors standardize spelling as Greswold for England and Griswold for America. They also note:
      "This booklet covers the Greswold-Griswold families from 1311 to the departure of the 4 members of the family who left England, Francis in 1636, Michael about 1638, Edward and Matthew in 1639. Together with the First Five Generations in America, and Volumes IV-VII of the Griswold Genealogy and the Griswold Family Bulletin, it covers almost 700 years and has taken almost 70 years to reach this point."
      Of the four emigrants, my Sadler genealogy has the immigrant Francis Griswold as an ancestor and my Petersen genealogy has the immigrant Edward as an ancestor. This is the only example I have found where both my and my wife's family descend from a common ancestor, who is John8 in this case. This same book also ties the immigrant Michael back to the same ancestry through several generations; however, I do not transcribe that part of the book since he is not a directly ancestor. The fourth immigrant, Matthew, was step-brother to the immigrant Edward.
      As of 2012, it appears that this book is the most current evolution of the Griswold ancestry and includes all previous research up to 1999 when it was published. The authors note:
      "Several predecessors have diligently sought the English ancestry of the American Griswolds including Glenn Griswold, the author of Volumes II and III of the Griswold Family who left Volume I for that purpose and accumulated extensive notes for that project, Charles Griswold, Ralph Philips, Genevieve Tyler Kiepura, and John G. Hunt. Some of them worked under the guidance of Donald Lines Jacobus, the Dean of American genealogy, editor of "The American Genealogist" (TAG) and author of the basic text on the subject. The TAG articles are now about 30 years old [as of 1999]... In 1990, in the "First Five Generations," we attempted to summarize with the result that some errors of earlier searchers were compounded. In this publication, we have attempted to straighten out what we could and, to do so, we studied additional material developed by four people whose perspective is primarily historical: David Patterson, historian of St Alphege Church in Solihull; Joy Woodall, historian of Rowington; and Bonnie and Jim Griswold who have regularly visited Warwickshire and have published two booklets describing the English Greswolds in the context of their time and place..."
      The authors also provide the following bibliography of the various sources they have used:
      Bridge, "History of Northamptonshire."
      Burman, John, "The Story of Tanworth," 1930, quoted by Joy Woodall.
      Carpenter, Christine, "Locality and Polity, A study of Warwickshire Landed Society, 1401-1499," Cambridge University Press, 1992, ISBN 0-521-370167 hardback. This is the ultimate source and has an exhaustive bibliography.
      Cooper, William, "Wooton Wawen: It's History & Records," Leeds, J. Whitehead & Sons, Ltd., 1936.
      CP 25 (2) Mich. 14 Jas. 1/Warw. This reference is quoted in The American Genealogist (TAG) from
      Morrison, J.H., "The Underhills of Warwickshire," 1932; pp. 70-71; concerns the purchase of the cottage at Kenilworth by George Grissold. No one at the desk in either the PRO at Warwick or at
      Chancery Lane could explain the reference or find the document.
      "A Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds in the Public Record Office," 6 Vol, London, HMSO, 1890-1915. Various items therefrom are cited in "The American Genealogist," and are quoted by John G. Hunt in Vol 40:44 (It has several times been cited as "A Descriptive Calendar" which made it hard to find and it has not been consulted.) Deeds of related families like Saunders, Bromley, Hawes, Beynham, Birches and others might be enlightening.
      French, Robert L. and Esther L., "The Griswold Family, The First Five Generations in America," Elmira, NY 1990. The preliminary portions on English ancestry have been superseded.
      Griswold, Bonnie Day and James Wells, "Our Griswold Family in England before 1639," 2nd Edition, Exeter, NH, 1992. This has the most complete description of the time and place where the American immigrants, Edward and Matthew, lived before coming to America.
      Griswold, Charles, "Griswold Family Research in England," a pamphlet published about 1932 by the Griswold Family Association. This has abstracts and transcriptions of many wills and a list of some at "The Probate Registry" in Birmingham which have not yet, to my knowledge, been copied or transcribed, together with suggestions for further research. This pamphlet was apparently not widely circulated and deserves closer scrutiny.
      Harleian Society Publications, "Visitations of Northamptonshire," 89:17 has the pedigree of Blencow. (Not seen as of 1998).
      Hunt, John G., "Note on the Ancestry of the Griswolds of Connecticut," in TAG Vols. 40 & 41.
      Jacobus, Donald Lines, editorial comments in TAG Vols. 39-41. His comments on material submitted by Hunt, Kiepura and Philips should be noted but are not always accurate.
      Kiepura, Genevieve Tyler, "Griswold Ancestry in England," in TAG Vol. 39. This gives sources for the maternal ancestry of Margaret Blencow. It will be very useful if she proves to be the mother of Michael, the immigrant. Kiepura thought she was the mother of Edward of Windsor. Hunt proved that to be implausible but went no further and never thought of Michael.
      Patterson, David R., et al, "The Parish Church of St. Alphege, Solihull," Beric Tempest & Co., St. Ives, Cornwall, MCMLXXXIX. A beautifully illustrated introduction to the church and its history.
      Pemberton, Rev. Robert, M.A., "Solihull and its Church," Wm. Pollard, Exeter, 1905.
      This is based on Dugdale's "Antiquities of Warwickshire." "Thomas's Edition 1730" and provides on p. 42 the chart of early English Greswolds and their descendants which forms the basis of this paper.
      Philips, Ralph, his genealogical papers, Public Library at Nassau, Columbia County, NY.
      They contain correspondence with Mrs. Kiepura and with Miss Alice Stanley of the PRO in Warwick. His findings are quoted by Hunt.
      Philpott, L.C., "Griswold of Malvern Hall," M.A. (Cantab.) 1976-6, pp. 1-14, 30 and 31. [typescript]
      This is more comprehensive than Pemberton and more recent by far. Like Pemberton, it treats only English families.
      Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PPC) 1641-1648 (p.175) Edward Greswold Gobington (Cubbington) Warwickshire to John Blinco, maternal grandfather of John and Thomas Greswold during their min. 15 July 1633 (p. 180). This would seem to indicate that no others were mentioned.
      Ryland, Jno William, "Records of Rowington," Vol I, "Extracts from the Deeds" and Vol II, "Sixteenth Century Manuscript of Church and Parish Accounts," Chas. Cooper and Co, Birmingham, n.d. This is almost certainly where Pemberton found his material on Deeds.
      Salisbury, Edward Elbridge and Evelyn Mcurdy, "Family Histories and Genealogies," quoted by Donald Lines Jacobus in TAG, Vol 40:44-5.
      "Victoria County History of Warwickshire," (VCH), quoted in TAG, Vol 40.
      Woodall, Joy, "From HROCA to ANNE," Shirley, W. Midlands, 1974. 1000 years in the:life of Rowington. This has a description of the Catholics of Rowington at the time of the Martyrdom of the Blessed Robert Greswold in 1604.
      Before beginning the Griswold genealogy, the authors include the following statement without explaining how William and Walter de Grousewold fit in; I include the statement for future reference use:
      "The earliest record that appears to relate to the Greswold family is in Vol II of the Feet of Fines, 1284-1385 and was discovered in 1997 by Joy Woodall, Historian of Rowington, Warwickshire:
      Solihull, Kineton Green: (month) 11, (year) 4, reign of (King) Edward II [who reigned from 1307 to 1327]. Quinz of St Martin (15th day of the feast of St Martin).
      William, son of Walter de Grousewold, plaintiff. Walter de Grousewold, defendant.
      A messuage, 30 acres of meadow in Solihull and Kyngton juxta (next to) Solihull. Plea of covenant. Defendant recognized right of plaintiff.
      Consideration - Plaintiff grants to defendant to hold for life of defendant of plaintiff and his heirs by a rose rent yearly at Nativity of St. John the Baptist, for all service to them and doing the services due to the chief lord.
      In a letter of 2 Feb 1996, Joy cites a Lay Subsidy Roll [GE 3 (1332) Dugdale Society Publication, Vol. VI, published 1926.], "William de Grousewold paying 6s under Kyneton Lyndon and an Agnes Grome paying 10d." This William was probably the chaplain at St. Alphege in 1349. ["Our Griswold Family in England before 1639," p.5.] (Richard3 Greswold married a daughter of William Grome of Kyneton)."