| Notes |
- RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. This individual is created solely as a repository for my research notes into the possible ancestry of the Winners and other very early New Jersey Winners.
In reviewing these notes, be aware that Ocean county was created from the lower half of Monmouth county in 1850. Atlantic was created from the southern half of Gloucester in about 1830. Camden was also created from the northwest part of the remaining Gloucester County. Hudson was created from the southern part of Bergen county. Burlington was a wedge between Monmouth and Gloucester counties with the Atlantic tip eventually becoming part of the newer Ocean county.
2. We have results of DNA testing comparing the southern NJ Winners to Dutch Winnes which confirms the two families are not related! Some emails on the subject:
A. 7 May 2012 email from Roger Winner, a direct descendant of Pieter Winne, has who had done a DNA test. He notes: "I have spent much time researching all early Winners but in particular my Pieter Winne lines. In all of my research I have not found anything suggesting a common ancestor for the two lines. ... I am in the direct male line descending for Pieter ..."
B. 9 May 2012 email from Roger Winner to Judy Winner . He notes: "The DNA tests provided the result I was looking for. Your husband and I do not share a common ancestor and therefore your line of Winners are not descended from Pieter Winne. Ancestry and Family Tree only have 32 of the 37 markers but I did not match 12 of the 32 markers."
C. From an ancestry.com message board http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.winne/231.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx of 2009 from a Judith Winner: "Family cemetery in Pike Co,Illinois shows John Winner (b Jan. 18, 1787, d Aug. 9, 1860). DOD may be Aug 18,1860. Family history says he was from Hamilton, Ohio. Married Hester Mason, etc. My husband Richard Winner has a 37 dNa marker match with Maurice D. (Mike) Winner, Jr., from Gloucester Co., NJ. His line is Maurice D. Sr 1904-1974, Lawrence C. - 1874-1943, James R. - 1850-1929, Joseph Winner - 1822 - 1895."
D. 19 Sep 2012 email from Judy Winner : "My husband Richard D. Winner is descended from Pike Co Illinois Winners. We have 37 marker Family Tree dNa. We heard from Maurice Dawson Winner who lives in Gloucester Co. NJ and Richard matches him.
Richard's line is:
John Winner (1787-1860)
Samuel Winner (10-13-1810 10-15-1882)
Thomas Winner (7-5-1849/after 1920)
Samuel Eaves Winner (12-24-1873 - 1918-1920?)
Warren Thomas Winner (6-25-1903/7-28-1988)
Richard D. Winner (1947 -)
I have emails from Roger rlwhershey@att.net who we shared dNa results which I will forward. [See above email from Roger dated 9 May 2012] Asked Richard's 70+ sister where her father lived (Warren) and she said on Dutch Creek. This is in Pike Co, IL where the Winner Cemetery is located. [Copy of DNA certificate and results in image file. Test results for Richard D. Winner by Family Tree DNA dated 9 Jul 2008. DYS #/Allele: 393/13, 390/24, 19-394/14, 391/11, 385a/11, 385b/13, 426/12, 388/12, 439/12, 389-1/13, 392/13, 389-2/29, 458/17, 459a/8, 459b/10, 455/11, 454/11, 447/24, 437/15, 448/19, 449/29, 464a/14, 464b/15, 464c/17, 464d/17, 460/10, H4/10, YCA-11a/19, YCA-11b/23, 456/15, 607/16, 576/17, 570/17, CDYa/38, CDYb/38, 442/12, 438/12]
E. Email from Kris Winner, Jul 24, 2012. "Hi Kerry - thanks for sending your notes. It looks like you and I are on the same track to some extent. I have come to many of the same conclusions. I may have some bits that you don't - I have spent a lot of time in Trenton and in DC trolling through the archives. So, where you have notes on some of the births or deaths or marriages, I have copies of the actual documents, some of which have additional names included. I think I will go through your notes and add in red where I might have a document of interest and you can let me know if you have it or not. My line is probably through Abraham/John. You may have seen a post on the message board (see http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.winne/231.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx from a Judy Winner. The Maurice she mentions is my dad's cousin. I met him two years or so ago in North Carolina and got some great things from him on more recent relatives, and he told me he had done the dna thing and came up with a match to the Ohio crowd. I have not emailed her about her query, but might have something for her, specifically that two of John Winner's sons were on a jury with Hester Ann Mason's brother, Case Mason, making a "link" to the Great Egg Harbor crowd. I often wondered if this John was the son of Septimus that was unaccounted for in his will according to Kim Secrist on the message boards again. I don't have Septimus's will, I need to get that to see exactly what it says."
F. 19 Sep 2012 email from me to Judy, Roger, Kris, and Karen Winner:
"Your husband's DNA tests against Maurice Winner and Roger Winner confirm my research. I have no DNA tests to add since I am not of the Winner surname, but I do have extensive historical research which anticipated and surmised what you have found. Many have suspected, but I believe I am the first to come to the firm conclusion that the southern NJ Winners come from Bucks Co., PA and not the Dutch Winne line...
Your second email today notes that Roger Winner, a confirmed descendant of Pieter Winne, has compared his DNA and it does not match your husband's, which I would have expected... Finally we have proof that the lines are not the same even though dozens of researchers have spent lifetimes on the subject. There continues to be much bad reporting connecting these two lines. We can now move beyond all that.
Your exact match to Maurice Winner is no surprise to me... Kris has not provided me an exact ancestral line; however, you mention on your board posting: "His line is Maurice D. Sr 1904-1974, Lawrence C. - 1874-1943, James R. - 1850-1929, Joseph Winner - 1822 - 1895." The 1822 Joseph is a generation or two removed from the earliest Winners I connect, but he is definitely in our mix. I believe he may be the son of Joseph Winner, b. 1803, who had a brother John and Amos. Their father is in turn John Winner who married Millicent Mapes (and also married Hannah Carr before Millicent). This John is my database and has probably 3 brothers and 1 sister (all of which you will see on my database). Their father, I believe, is our first surmised ancestor Isaac Winner (1733-1781) who married Rebecca ___, all of Bucks Co. Of John's brothers, one was Isaac (Jr) (1755 Bucks Co., PA - 1819 Monmouth Co., NJ) who married twice. He is the progenitor of the all the Southeast NJ Winners. His first wife was Hannah Searls, who had several children including your John Winner who married Hester Mason ... The fact that your husband's DNA and Maurice's match would put the common ancestor at the original Isaac Sr. of Bucks Co. - who is the earliest ancestor I have surmised thus far. Now that the linkage is more certain, it would be good for you to continue to compare with other Bucks Co. Winner descendants. Isaac Sr. had another son James who stayed in the area and has numerous descendants in Lycoming Co., Pennsylvania. I would be great to test against that major branch and proof would be outstanding icing on the cake. I have emailed Karen Winner of the James Winner line with a copy of this email (she has also reviewed my research paper) and perhaps she can locate a suitable candidate on her branch for DNA testing."
G. 19 Sep 2012 email from Roger Winner (of the Winne line). He gives me his DNA test results which were done by Ancestry.com. Location/value: 19a/14, 19b/-, 385a/11, 385b/11, 388/12, 389-I/13, 389-II/30, 390/25, 391/11, 392/13, 393/13, 426/12, 437/15, 438/12, 439/12, 441/14, 442/17, 444/12, 445/12, 446/14, 447/24, 448/19, 449/30, 452/31, 454/11, 455/11, 456/16, 458/16.2, 459a/9, 459b/10, 460/11, 461/12, 462/11, 463/25, 464a/15, 464b/15, 464c/17, 464d/17, 464e/-, 464f/-, GGAATI-B07/10, YCA-IIa/19, YCC-IIb/21, Y-GAFA-A10/15, 635/23, Y-GATA-H4.1/22. Also notes that he is of the paternal haplogroup R1b.
3. "The Ancestry & Descendants of James Winner of Sussex Co., N.J. & Lycoming Co., Pa.," first edition; Editor: Ernestine Siegel, 1906 Watrous Avenue, Tampa, Florida, 33606; 1969; revised 1970; privately printed with copy in my possession, Preface, pp. 1-15, and Bibliography. She has collected a tremendous amount of information and identified the early Winners centered around Bucks County in Southeast Pennsylvania near Philadelphia and in the adjoining western counties of New Jersey just across the the state line formed by the Delaware River. She gives some generic information on the antiquity of the Winner name before providing a comprehensive listing of what is known to date on all early Winners in our targeted geographic area. I believe she has probably found all of them; however, the connections between each of them is obscure and subject to speculation. Like myself, she has concluded that there is no connection to the Dutch New York Peter Winne family. Even though there is no proof, she has taken the premise that the family legend of an original Capt. James Winner (of the "Wasp") has merit and that he had at least four sons/branches (John, James, Joseph, and Thomas) and potentially a fifth son/branch (Samuel). From there she develops some of these branches while just placing some "strays" where perhaps they may eventually fit subject to additional research. Some of the Winners are too late to be of interest to us except as perhaps a DNA pathway back when more DNA-tested Winners are available. As for our earliest ancestor, Isaac Winner who married Rebecca, Ms. Siegel cannot identify his precise parents, but she places him as a "stray" on the John Branch with the caveat that he seems associated with the Samuel who may be a separate fifth branch (perhaps as a brother or son?). Even though speculative, she has generally done a better job than anything else in print at providing some potential order to the early Winners. She acknowledges that many vital NJ records were destroyed in the Revolutionary War. She also recommends that: "Straightening out the Winner family tree will be a long tedious job for someone, for only by extensive search of colonial church records in both Pa. and N.J. can the various relationships be settled." The transcript:
"PREFACE.
The Winner Family Tree on the following pages is a compilation from many sources, as can be seen by the Bibliography. However, my personal interest began when I inherited a handwritten manuscript of Harold Collins, who died in 1927 in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. Later, my Winner relatives around Williamsport sent me copies of two manuscripts, one written by Rev. Jackson Winner in 1928, and one written by Mrs. Mabelle Winner Harrington in 1947. The information contained in these three manuscripts is found in Part II of this book [which deals exclusively with James Winner who married Mary Parker and Mary Kester and his descendants]. To my knowledge, there has never been a complete Winner genealogy printed, although the earliest emigrant is said, by legend, to have been in the Delaware River area by 1700. One of our greatest handicaps in researching this family has been the fact that so many colonial records in Now Jersey were destroyed during the Revolutionary War...
PART I. The WINNERS of BUCKS CO., PA and NEW JERSEY.
Origin of The Name.
The Rev. Charles A. Bardsley in his "English Surnames", London, 1898, stated that the indigenous English Winner name was shortened from WINNOWER, meaning a person who separated the chaff from the grain. Thus it is classified as an occupational name. It is rare in England and America - today there are only 12 Winners listed in the London Directory, and most probably they are not all of English origin. The London Society of Genealogists lists only one Winner will - that of Henry, yeoman of Kent in the 1500s
In England in the 1500s, there were other Winners of both German and French origin, the latter being an anglicization of VYNER, VINER, WINER, meaning those engaged in the occupation of grape growing and brewing. According to Prof. J.K. Brechenmacher's "Etymologies..." Germany, 1957, the German WINNER comes from the middle-high German WUNNE, and a Kuntz Winner was recorded as early as 1404 at Immenstaad, Uberlingen. The German WUNNER was derived from WUNRE, and a Detman Wunner was recorded 1440 as Presbyter to Barth.)
At the time of the 1790 census in the United States, there were Winners in America of English, Dutch and German origin. Generally speaking, the "Dutch" Winners stem from the WINNIE, WINNE family of New York, the emigrant ancestor being Peter Winne who was born in Flanders and came to America in 1648. One claim has been made that he was of English origin since there were Winnes in England in the early 1600s. Another is that he was descended from the Dutch Van Wynnes (a place name). It is more likely that Peter Winnie's ancestors were Germans who had migrated on the advent of Protestantism. According to Brechenmacher, the German WINNE is a derivative of WINMar, and a Heintz Winne was recorded 1357 at Astheim, Hesse. The first record of WINMar is John Winmari at Kassel 1298. (The name WINEMar is found in the Domesday Book of England.)
Many German Winners in America today stem from still other names, such as WENNER, WENNAUR, WEINER, WEIGNER in colonial Bucks Co., Pa., and Northampton, Northumberland, and Lancaster Cos. It should also be mentioned here that the Welsh WYNNE, WINNE family which came with William Penn is often confused with the Dutch Winne family; however, I have never seen a case where a Welsh Wynne changed his name to Winner. In the case of the Dutch and German families, the adoption of the spelling WINNER after migration to America was simply an anglicization of the name, aided on by English scribes.
Adding to the confusion of the present day genealogist, the DAR Patriot index lumps together under the English surname WINN (meaning field), various Revolutionary soldiers who stem from the Dutch Winnie family, the Welsh Wynne family, the English Winner family, etc. The precedent for this practice is found in English general armories which have in the past gathered together - because few people used them - an arbitrary conglomeration of rare names such as WINNER, WINNERAWE, WINNEROE, WINNARD, WINART, WYNER, WINNERY, WHINNERAR, WINNERE, etc., regardless of meaning or national origin. Frankly, it saved paper, ink and time to do so. For instance, WYNER in addition to meaning grape brewer, can also mean "a friend"; WHINNERAH a place name, etc.
The family to whom these pages are devoted is classified English. The ancestor of James Winner of Lycoming Co. was by family tradition one Capt. James Winner (that spelling), a privateer who sailed from England to the Delaware River about 1700 and settled on the New Jersey shore across from Philadelphia in the Rancocas Creek (Burlington Co.) area. Descendants have consistently used the spelling Winner and they did not use Dutch or German Christian names for their children as did the descendants of the WINNIE and WENNER families up to and beyond 1800. They displayed English "life style".
Since the information on Page 11 concerning Abraham Winner of Mt. Holly, N.J. conflicts with the DAR use of his service record for Abraham Winnie of Essex Co., N.J., I am including the Winnie Line in part:
1. Peter Winnie, d. 1693, married 2. Tanneke Adams
2. Martin Winnie, b. 1657, married Margaret Van Horn
3. Peter Winnie, b. 1698 married Leah Spier
4. Abraham Winnie 1728-1786 married Helletie Jerolman
5. Nicholas Winner married Sara Francisco.
This is a good example of continued use of Dutch Christian names.
COAT of ARMS.
The English Winner coat of arms is found in the Victorian County Histories, Volume 6* (*Obviously incorrect, as furnished by International Ancestry Guild, London) for County Essex. It was granted in 1612 to Capt. John Winner of Thaxted, Essex Co., England - a gold shield with three blue scallops indicating a sea faring family. A search of the parish records of that time shows no Winner man, indicating that John Winner must have attended either the Baptist or Quaker church in Thaxted.
The OriginAL Immigrant - CAPT. James WINNER of NEW JERSEY.
Capt. James Winner was also a sea-faring man, engaged in the then legal business of privateering, commanding a small craft named the "Wasp". According to family legend he settled on the Jersey side of the Delaware River across from Philadelphia about 1700, and died in his seventies about 1725. His surviving wife is remembered to have burned his ship's log and papers upon his death, and one wonders if she was not a second wife, since the act obviously created a stir among his children. As far as can be determined, he had four sons - John, James, Joseph, and Thomas - and possibly a fifth, Samuel. Straightening out the Winner family tree will be a long tedious job for someone, for only by extensive search of colonial church records in both Pa. and N.J. can the various relationships be settled. The New Jersey Winners trekked to Pennsylvania, and the Pa. Winners went back to New Jersey, generation after generation. Members of the same family were Quakers, Baptists, Episcopalians, Dutch Reformed Church, etc.
BRANCH ONE - The MIDDLETOWN and MAKEFIELD WINNERS.
John WINNER of MIDDLETOWN TOWNSHIP, BUCKS CO., PA.
On May 24, 1725 a bill of charges was levied against a certain person for "unlawfully removing John Winner's mare and selling her at Bristol Pound." The bill was levied at Middletown - another source states Winner was living at Newtown at the time. We believe this John Winner is the same man who in 1743 as a Quaker in Philadelphia Co., Pa. stated his allegiance to the Pa. Government to become a naturalized citizen. John Winner of Middletown was a weaver by trade and died there in 1746. His estate settlement dated October 14, 1748 - Bucks Co. File 625 - mentions his son John Jr. and daughter Didwell. Didwell, widow of Benjamin Field of Middletown Twp. was named administratrix, with John Woolston as fellow bondsman. Inventory was made by Euclyous Longshore and Joseph Wa1ker. (Benjamin Field had been a Pa. Assemblyman between 1738 and 1745.)
John WINNER II of LOWER MAKEFIELD TOWNSHIP.
This John Winner moved to Lower Makefield Twp., Bucks Co., Pa: and was taxed there in 1779 as the owner of 10 acres. He died in 1791, leaving a will - Bucks Co. File 2356 - dated 3rd day of 1st month, 1791, showing his Quaker affiliation. The will mentions his daughter Didwell, wife of John Smith; his daughter Rachel, wife of Jacob Watson; two grandsons, Levi and John Terry, sons of John Terry "formerly of Middletown"; and five sons - Samuel, John, David, Joshua, and Moses. Sons Samuel and John were executors; witnesses were John Loon, Richard Lelle and Peter Van Horn.
Samuel WINNER of LOWER MAKEFIELD.
In 1775 Samuel was recorded in Lower Makefield Twp. as a singleman, and a "non-associator", being a Quaker whose church did not allow him to bear arms. He had the choice given by the government to furnish a substitute or pay fines, but he could be disowned by his church for doing either. (Pa. Arch. Ser. 2, Vol. 14, p. 242.) The same year an older Samuel was living in Middletown Twp. - more of this Samuel later. The 1790 census of Pa. shows Samuel Winner of Lower Makefield as a married man with Children. It also shows a younger Samuel there.
John WINNER III (called Jr.) of LOWER MAKEFIELD.
This man was taxed in Lower Makefield Twp. as a singleman in 1782 and 1783. In 1789 he is taxed in Middletown Twp. on a house and lot. It would seem that this would be the John Winner shown on the 1790 Pa. Census. Genealogical Society of Pa. Publications Vol 12, p. 163 shows Ursula Winner, "daughter of John of Middletown", marrying at Newtown in 1826 to Richard Bateman, s/o John Bateman.
DAVID and JOSHUA WINNER of LOWER MAKEFIELD
Both these brothers appear as weavers on the 1789 tax list of Lower Makefield Twp. David was listed as a non-associator in 1781-3 - it should be remembered that 16 year old boys were eligible for service in the Bucks Co. Associator Companies. David and Joshua appear as heads of families on the 1790 Pa. Census in Lower Makefield.
MOSES WINNER of LOWER MAKEFIELD
Moses appears as a singleman in 1789 on the Lower Makefield tax list. According to "The Kirk Family" by Roberts, 1912, Moses married Elizabeth Twining and they were disowned by the Quakers in 1792. They wore reported to have had a large family, Moses does not appear on the 1790 census.
OTHERS WINNERS IN The MIDDLETOWN-MAKEFIELD AREA.
James WINNER of LOWER and UPPER MAKEFIELD.
This man is closely associated with the above listed Winners all his life, but we are not sure that he belongs to the same branch. Since he named his son Joseph and since he served as a soldier in the Revolutionary War, he may belong to the branch of Joseph of Bristol. This James is first found August 19, 1775, serving as a private in the Lower Makefield 3rd. Associators Co. under Capt. Peter Van Sant (Pa. Arch. Ser. 2, Vol. 14, p.151). Thus if he had been born in the Quaker church, he would have been disowned for performing military service. In 1787 he is taxed as a married man in Lower Makefield. On the 1790 Pa. Census, he appears as a married man in Upper Makefield Twp. He died in 1795 in Warwick Twp - Bucks Co. File 2656. On December 31, 1796, his widow Sophia renounced her right to be administrator of his estate and recommended Nathaniel Huston of Middletown to be administrator. Patrick Hunter and Daniel Martin of Newtown were fellow bondsmen. Job Winner of Upper Makefield and Joseph Houghton were witnesses. The estate was settled in 1798, appraisers being Joseph Barton and William Lee. Inventory mentions a Sara Winner, Isaac Hicks (a J.P.), William, Joseph, Samuel and John Lovett and others. On May 4, 1794, a petition had been filed in Orphans Court - File 1070 - wherein Joseph Winner, a minor above the age of 14, son of James, chose Peter Booz as guardian.
JOB WINNER of UPPER WAKEField
This man is recorded in the Docket of Isaac Hicks, J.P. Bucks Co., as living in Newtown Twp. and marrying on May 17, 1795 to Margaret Brister of Newtown. In 1796 he appears as a witness on the estate of James of Warwick and thus may have been his brother. In 1819 "Mr. Job Winner of Bucks Co, Pa, was married at Trenton, N.J. on April 5th to Miss Mary Roberts of Bucks Co." In 1825 George Winner, "son of Job of Upper Makefield" was married at Newtown, Pa. to Rebecca Loree, d/o William Loree of Lower Makefield, according to Gen. Soc. of Pa. Publications, Vol 12, p. 163. On the 1850 Bucks Co. Census, George Winner age 45 was farming in Rockhill Twp. with wife Catherine, daughter Maryann, sons John and Levi. A Matilda Soliday was also living on the farm. Also living in Rockhill Twp. in 1850 is the family of John W. Winner age 23, wife Anna Margaret and son Allen.
By the time of the 1850 census, only two Winners were living in Lower Makefield: Sara age 40, a housekeeper in the home of Charles White. (She is said to have married White and survived him upon his death in 1871.) A child Elizabeth Winner age 10 was living in the home of Joseph and Martha Neeld, ages 76 and 68 respectively.
In 1850 in Upper Makefield were two Winner families: William age 37 with wife Anna Eliza and children Lydia Ann, Abner, Christopher, and Samuel. Also Elias age 27 with wife Ann, children William and Margaret, and a Samuel Winner age 12.
SAMUEL WINNER of MIDDLETOWN - A SEPARATE BRANCH?
The elder Samuel Winner of Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. seems more closely associated in records with the Abraham, Isaac and Jacob branch of the family than with the branch of John of Middletown. Since the Abraham, Isaac, Jacob branch seems to originate in New Jersey, there is a good possibility that Samuel also came from New Jersey to Middletown. In 1775 Samuel, Isaac; and Jacob are listed as non-associators at Middletown. Abraham is known to have remained in New Jersey and served as a soldier there. The younger brother James served as an associator at Middletown, Pa. in 1775. Thus this family was divided in its beliefs concerning service in the Revolutionary War. It is believed that the Quakers Isaac and Jacob had moved from New Jersey to Pa. at the outset of the war, as the Pa. government was more lenient in its attitude toward the sect than was the New Jersey government, and of course, Pa. did not suffer as much destruction during the war as did New Jersey. Isaac and Jacob's marriages are recorded in the New Jersey Archives, and Stryker lists Jacob as a New Jersey Revolutionary soldier, although the Archives cannot furnish a service record for him,
In 1779 Samuel Winner of Middletown is taxed along with Isaac Sr, and Isaac Jr. In 1783 he is taxed there with William Winner, singleman, possibly a son. Both Samuel and William disappear from the tax lists after 1784. In 1781, William Winner had served as a private in Capt. Robert Patterson's Co., 2nd Regt. of Foot, Bucks Co. Militia.
Isaac WINNER of MIDDLETOWN and NEW JERSEY.
In 1775 Isaac Winner was recorded as a non-associator of Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. In 1776 a marriage is recorded in New Jersey on November 9th of Isaac Winner of Bucks Co. to Hannah Searl of Bucks". In 1779 both Isaac Sr. and Isaac Jr. are taxed at Middletown. In 1781, Isaac Winner, weaver, is taxed there and this is the last of the Isaacs on the tax lists. An Isaac Winner died in Burlington Co., N.J. in 1866.
Jacob WINNER of MIDDLETOWN and SOUTHHAMPTON
Jacob Winner was married at St. Mary's Church, Burlington Co., N.J. on Sept. 29, 1774. In 1775 he is listed as a non-associator of Middletown Twp., Bucks Co. Pa. He died in 1778 in Southampton, Bucks Co., Pa., his widow Elizabeth (Hellingh) surviving him. (Bucks Co. File 1563). His occupation was that of a weaver. Dirck Hogeland of Southhampton and Amos Lubers of Northhampton were fellow bondsmen. William Mannington was witness, inventory by Phineas Paxton and Joseph Van Pelt.
Samuel WINNER of SOUTHHAMPTON.
Bucks Co. File 5444 a contains the estate proceedings of Samuel Winner of Southhampton Twp., dated April 8, 1825. His wife Alice was administrator. The inventory mentions dowry to his daughter Margaret Lefferts, and also names Abraham, James and John Lefferts. Alice Winner was later buried at the Dutch Reformed Church of North and South Hampton, born October 28, 1790, died October 9, 1833. Her daughter, Ann L. Winner, is also buried there, born May 4, 1817, died Dec. 18, 1890. On the 1850 census of Northhampton Twp., Ann Winner is found living in the home of Charles and Elizabeth Spencer. Also on the census is Adriana Lefferts age 72 living in the home of James and Jane Richardson. John and Helena Lefferts were living in Southhampton Twp.
Abraham and James WINNER of SOUTHHAMPTON.
These two families are found here on the 1850 census: Abraham age 29 living with wife Emily, children Susanna and Samuel. James Winner age 26 heads a separate household with wife Sarah and daughter Elizabeth, and an Alice Winner age 59. On an 1856 map of Bucks Co., Abraham Winner is shown living in Northhampton Twp., and Thomas Winner at Newportville. The Southhampton Baptist Church records the burials of John E. Winner, born Dec. 10, 1816, died April 11, 1897 - his will is Bucks Co, File 20188 - and of Lizzie B. Winner who died Oct. 17, 1879 age 20.
The records of Neshaminy of Warwick Church shows that John Winner of Northhampton married Mary Ann Rutherford of Warwick on April 9, 1857.
On an 1876 map of Northampton Twp., John Winner had 20 acres a mile north of Richboro; "J." Winner had 19 acres one mile northwest of Richboro, and Thomas Winner had his home at Newportville facing Neshaminy Creek.
Solebury Presbyterian Church records show Nathan C. Winner, adult, baptized April 6, 1846, and his wife Mary Winner baptized November 11, 1845. Nathan Winner transferred in 1846 to Zion Church, Cecil Co., Md.
Samuel WINNER of WrightSTOWN.
On the 1850 census a Samuel Winner age 27, blacksmith, is living at Wrightstown with wife Louise, and daughters Mary and Martha. Also at Wrightstown are the families of Arthur and Charles Lefferts. A James Winner died at Wrightstown in 1872. According to the History of Bucks County by Davis, 1905, Vol 3, William Paulin Winner was born August 26, 1852 on a small farm north of Wrightstown, son of Samuel and Sarah Ann (Wood) Winner. Sarah Ann died two days after the birth of her son. Bucks Co. File 6988, Orphans Court, shows that Cornelius Slack was appointed guardian. William's aunt Elizabeth took him to Philadelphia. In later years William P. resided at Quakertown, serving in the Pa. State Legislature between 1898-1902. He married Dec. 23, 1879 to Mary Magdalene Simons.
The 1850 census in Buckingham Twp. shows a Samuel Winner age 31 living on the farm of George and Elizabeth Walton.
The name Samuel is also a popular Winner name in New Jersey.
BRANCH TWO James WINNER II of BUCKS CO., PA.
The second James Winner settled in Bucks Co., Pa. before 1745, according to records which show him a soldier there. In 1756 Pvt. James Winner served with the Newtown, Pa. Infantry. Obviously, this man was not a Quaker. In 1779 the estate of James Winner including 50 acres was taxed in Falls Township, Bucks Co.
BRANCH THREE Joseph WINNER of NEW JERSEY.
We know practically nothing about this man, other than he probably lived in Burlington Co., N.J. He is nevertheless considered the progenitor of the Bristol and Philadelphia branches of the Winner family. His second wife and widow, Sara, died at Bristol in 1753, leaving a will dated June 8th - Bucks Co. File 833 - which gave her estate to her son Anthony Hooper, by her first marriage. Joseph Smith was executor.
Joseph WINNER II of BRISTOL.
By tradition, this man was born in New Jersey about 1735 and was third generation in America. He came to Bristol in the 1750s and served in the colonial wars. He was a tailor, and was taxed at Bristol in 1779 as owning one acre. In 1783 Benjamin Winner, a singleman, was taxed at Bristol but disappears from the tax list the next year. Across the river in Gloucester Co., N.J., one Benjamin Winner married Eliza Barrett on February 12, 1824. A later Benjamin Winner was born 1837 at Middletown Point, New Jersey, son of Reuben and Lanned Winner. This Benjamin died March 21, 1860, age 23, single.
Joseph Winner of Bristol had a daughter Sara born 1758 who was still living in Bristol at the time of the 1850 census. She was then 92, the Widow Van Horn, living with her daughter Mary Van Horn age 50, Ann Twining age 73, and Thomas Winner age 50, a carpenter.
There are some indication that Joseph of Bristol had two sons, Septimus and William, who were administrators of the will of John Gaskill of Burlington Co., N.J. In 1794, a William Winner died 1813 in Waterford Twp., Gloucester Co., N.J. - File 2973H. Jesse Winner was administrator.
At Bristol in 1801 died a Joseph Winner, probably fifth generation, who left his estate to his mother, the Widow Rebecca Winner who had remarried to Thomas Barton.
Joseph WINNER III of PHILADELPHIA.
This Joseph was born in Bristol 1776 and died in Philadelphia 1815. He married Elizabeth Evans 1784-1842, d/o Rev. Sold. Capt. Nathan Evans of Welsh descent. Joseph and Elizabeth are buried at the 2nd Baptist Church Philadelphia. (Also buried there is Abram Winner, very probably the Rev. Sold. of New Jersey.) Two of their sons were Joseph, a violin maker, and William, a painter. In 1800 a John Winner married Alice Winner at the Baptist Church in Philadelphia. In 1835 a Mary Winner married William Mathes of Philadelphia.
William E. WINNER of PHILADELPHIA.
This man was a portrait and genre painter in Philadelphia in the 1840-60 period. He was a member of the Pa. Academy of Fine Arts 1847-60 and a member of the National Academy of Design 1844-50. One of his better known portraits is that of Edgar Allen Poe. His daughter, Margaret F. Winner born 1866 was also a painter and member of the Pa. Academy.
Joseph WINNER IV of PHILADELPHIA.
This Joseph, the violin-maker, married Mary Ann Hawthorne d/o William Hawthorne of New York. Their children were Septimus, Julia, Margaret Aim, Sarah Jane, Anna Ross, Sivori, and Joseph Eastburn Winner. About 1840 this family moved to Lycoming Co., Pa.. near Williamsport, but moved back to Philadelphia before the 1850 Lycoming Co. census was taken. (This census does show a Seth Winner of Porter Twp., Lycoming Co., Pa., wife Rebecca, who may be Joseph's brother.)
SEPTIMUS WINNER of PHILADELPHIA
Septimus was born in Philadelphia May 11, 1827, and was a well-known American composer, most famous for his tune "Listen to the Mocking Bird". Septimus was subject of a book entitled "The Mocking Bird" published by C. E. Claghorn in 1937, Septimus kept a music shop in Philadelphia between 1847-57, and was a member of the Music Fund Orchestra. He married a Miss Hannah (Guyer).
Joseph EASTBURNE WINNER of PHILADELPHIA.
This Joseph was born 1836, married twice, the second time to Florence Elizabeth McGregor. His son Hawthorne Winner is an accountant of Philadelphia today.
BRANCH FOUR - Thomas WINNER of BURLINGTON, N.J.
This man is buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Burlington, N.J., although the church records do not give his death date, he is nevertheless the eldest of the New Jersey branch of the Winner family. His wife was Hannah and one of their sons, Samuel, died August 21, 1743. Thomas and his brother Joseph were the progenitors of Winners living in Burlington, Gloucester, Camden, and Atlantic Cos.
The MT. HOLLY - NORTHHAMPTON WINNERS
In the 1780s at Mt. Holly was living Stephen and his wife Mary Winner, who had a son Samuel. Also living there was Abraham Winner, the tavern-keeper.
Abraham WINNER, REV. SOLD. of NEW JERSEY.
C. S. Boyer's "Old Inns and Taverns of West Jersey" mentions "Abraham Winner whose house was located on the north side of Gaskill's lane (now Woodland, near the old Quaker Meeting house. On May 22, 1776 he gave a mortgage to Joseph Butterworth on his property, which had probably then been discontinued as a tavern." On Sept. 3, 1869 Abraham Winner had married Mary Hatcher, according to the register of St. Mary's Church, Burlington Co. The New Jersey Archives and History Bureau furnishes his war record: "Purchaser of Forage, Foragemaster General's Dept., stationed at Mt. Holly, Burlington Co., N.J., January l780 … contractor for Burlington Co. March 25 to December 15, 1782; delivered provisions and forage to the State Troops and Militia April-July 1782; boarded and nursed Capt. Jacob Cooper of Burlington Co. … 1782." On Oct. 27, 1780, Abraham Winner was bondsman on will of John Little, Galloway Twp., Gloucester Co., N.J. Sara Little was administratrix. In 1788 he was bondsman of Joseph Borden Jr. of Burlington Co. Witnesses were Joseph and Mary Potts. In 1787 Abraham Winner was listed as a voter in an election for the Assembly. (It is believed he died age 74 in Philadelphia in 1807 and is buried at the 2nd Baptist Church there.)
On May 1, 1779 Amos Winner married Rebecca Cooper. On April 1, 1776 John Winner of Northhampton, Burlington Co, married Hannah Carr of Mt. Holly, d/o Quakers Caleb and Sara Carr. Hannah was born 1759, died 1778 and is buried with her child Samuel Winner in the Mt. Holly MM burial ground.
Samuel Winner, born Mt. Holly 1835, s/o Stephen and Mary died December 8, 1861, a farmer of Southhampton Twp., Burlington Co., N.J. On March 25, 1862 Mary N. Winner, age 61, died in Southhampton Twp., born Ellisburg, N.J., d/o Samuel and Labylle (Thorn) Winner.
The GLOUCESTER CO., N.J. WINNERS [KP note: this John Winner who married Millicent Mapes is in my database as one of the sons of Isaac and Rebecca Winner.]
1787 - The will of Joseph Mapes of Great Egg Harbour, Gloucester co., N.J. mentions his daughter Melicent Winner, his grandson Joseph Winner, and his son in law John Winner.
1793 - The will of Melscent Winner of Great Egg Harbour mentions her two sons, Amos and John Winner.
1803 - Joseph Winner married Millicent Caveller on February 2nd.
1806 - On the estate of Yelverton Doughty, John Winner, Sr. is executor, with Joseph Winner a witness.
1806 - On January 1st, Joseph Winner was appointed postmaster at Somer's Point, Gloucester Co.
1810 - John Winner Jr. was appointed postmaster at Somer's Pt, July 1st.
1811 - Joseph Winner was appointed postmaster, Somer's Pt.
1812 - John Winner married Abigail Doughty May 9th
1813 - Samuel Winner married Mary Thorn March 30th
1813 - William Winner died in Waterford Twp., Gloucester Co., leaving a will - File 2973H.
1816 - Abigail Winner married Joseph Venable February 23
1823 - John Winner Jr. died - File 2393H.
1824 - Benjamin Winner married Eliza Barrett February 12.
1832 - At Egg Harbour Twp., Abby Winner had 3 children between 4 and 16 years in school.
1837 - Atlantic County was formed from Gloucester Co.
1841 - Abraham Winner of Millford, N.J. married Eliza Ann Gaunt on December 9th.
At Zion Methodist Church in Bargaintown, Atlantic Co. are buried Thomas D. Winner 1818-1868 and wife Margaret D. Winner 1829-1864. Their son Thomas S. died 1855
age 15 mo., their son John died 1859 age 9, and their daughter Margaret died 1912 age 52.
At the Methodist Cemetery in Williamstown, Gloucester Co. is buried Joseph Winner 1822-1898 and wife Mary B. Van Horn Winner 1824-1895. Their son Daniel 1844-1863 served in the Civil War. Their son James 1850-1929 married Mary A. Dawson. Their daughter Sara 1853-1910 married Daniel Dawson Jr.
A Samuel Winner born 1817 enlisted in 1881 as a N.J. Civil War soldier. At Berlin, N.J. is buried a David Winner, 1826-1909, Civil War veteran, wife Maryann M. Winner 1831-1889.
1790 FEDERAL CENSUS, FOR BUCKS County, Pennsylvania (Not returned by townships - however, localities can be determined by neighbors names.)
John WINNER, shown as 2 white males over 16, 2 white males under 16, 2 white free females, no slaves or indentured people. (Identified as John of Middletown Twp.)
James WINNER, shown as 1 white male over 16, 1 white male under 16, 2 free white females, no slaves or others. (Identified as James of Upper Makefield Twp.)
DAVID WINNER, shown as 1 white male over 16, 2 white males under 16, 1 free white female. No slaves or others. (Identified as David of Lower Makefield.)
Samuel WINNER, shown as 3 white males over 16, 2 white males under 16, 2 free white females, no slaves or others. (Identified as Samuel of Lower Makefield.)
JOSHUA WINNER, shown as 1 white male over 16, 2 free white females, no slaves or others. (Identified as Joshua of Lower Makefield.)
Samuel WINNER, shown as 2 white males over 16, 1 white male under 16, 1 free white females, no slaves or others. (Identified as Samuel Jr. of Lower Makefield)
1850 CENSUS BUCKS CO. PA.:
Bristol Twp.: Thomas WINNER, age 50 carpenter, living in household SARA (Winner) VAN HORN age 92, with Mary VAN HORN age 50 and Ann TWINING age 73.
Buckingham Twp.: Samuel WINNER age 31, laborer, living in home of George and Elizabeth Walton.
Lower Makefield Twp:
SARA WINNER age 40, living in Charles White's home. (She is said to have married White and survived him as a widow.)
Elizabeth WINNER age 10, living in home of Joseph Neeld age 76 and wife Martha age 68.
Upper Makefield Twp:
William WINNER age 37, carpenter; Ann Eliza age 32, Lydia Ann age 10, Abner age 8, Christopher age 6, Samuel age 2 mo.
Elias WINNER age 27, shoemaker; Ann age 37, William H. age 6, Margaret age 1, Samuel age 12 mo.
Northhampton Twp.: Ann WINNER age 33 living in home of Charles and Elizabeth Spencer.
Rockhill Twp.:
John WINNER age 23 blacksmith, Anna Margaret age 25, Allen age 1 mo.
George WINNER, age 45 farmer; Catherine age 36, Maryann age 15, John age 12 mo., Levi age 3 mo., and Matilda Soliday age 34.
Southhampton Twp.:
James WINNER age 26 carpenter, Sarah age 27, Elizabeth age 5, Mary age 1, Alice
Winner age 59.
Abraham WINNER age 29 farmer, Emily age 26, Susanna age 2, Samuel age 2 mo.
Wrightstown Twp.: Samuel WINNER age 27, blacksmith, Louise age 24, Mary age 4, Martha age 2.
BUCKS CO., PA. Wills & ADMINISTRATIONS:
1748 John WINNER, weaver, Middletown Twp. File 628
1753 Sarah WINNER, widow of Joseph, Bristol Twp. File 833
1778 Jacob WINNER, weaver, Southhampton Twp. File 1563
1791 John WINNER, Lower Makefield File 2356
1796 James WINNER, Warwick Twp. File 2666
1805 Joseph WINNER, Bristol Twp. File 3313
1825 Samuel WINNER, Southhampton Twp. File 5444.
1852 Sarah WINNER
1871 Mary WINNER
1872 James WINNER
1889 Sarah WINNER
1897 John WNNER
[Others not transcribed from 1908 to 1939.]
[Author continues with a part II, pp. 15-58, which is specifically on her ancestor James Winner (who married Mary Parker and Mary Kester) and his descendants. James was the son of Isaac and Rebecca Winner. This portion of the overall transcript is contained in the notes of James Winner. There are two excerpts, however, that I include as follows in which the author seems to identify (or assume) some relationships with James which if correctly surmised may impact James' father Isaac, who is our earliest documented ancestor, i.e. that Jacob was a brother of James and also that he was cousins or a nephew with the individuals in the John Winner and Joseph Winner branches of the supposed original Capt. James Winner:]
"Coming from a family that was only half Quaker, James Winner in his earlier years had several times found his beliefs running contrary to those of the Quaker church. Consequently, while serving apprenticeship as a teenage boy in Middletown Township, Bucks Co., Pa. in 1775 - learning to become a weaver - James had served a term as soldier in the Bucks County Associators, although his brothers Isaac and Jacob, as Quakers, did not. (James' elder cousin, James, son of John of Lower Makefield, had already moved to Lower Makefield Township with his brother John Jr. and served as an associator there in the same year.) Again, during later years in New Jersey, James Winner married his first wife out of meeting, as well as his second wife. However, he always returned to the church and brought up his children to be Quakers.
"...By legend, at the time [1801] James Winner migrated to Lycoming County, he had only two brothers still living, one in New Jersey, and one in Bucks County. Also by legend, he is said to have named his three sons for his three brothers. His elder brother was Abraham Winner of Mt. Holly, Burlington Co., New Jersey, an innkeeper and a New Jersey Revolutionary Soldier. The second brother Isaac was taxed at Middletown Township, Bucks Co., Pa. as early as 1779, although it is believed he was born in Burlington Co., N.J. The third brother, Jacob Winner, died in Southhampton Township, Bucks Co., Pa. in 1778. (Both Isaac and Jacob were weavers.) Dirck Hogeland signed bond for the estate. The father of James is considered to be Isaac Sr. who was also taxed in Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. In 1779 but then disappears from the tax lists. The mother of James is said to be Rebecca. His birth record eludes us as it is not known which side of the Delaware River he was born on. (His cousin James mentioned before, died in Warwick Township, Bucks Co, Pa. In 1796.) The marriage records of Isaac Jr. and Jacob Winner are found in the New Jersey Archives.
The Winner family in Lycoming Co., Pa. has always been tied to the Winner family of Philadelphia, which included William Winner, the artist, and Septimus Winner, the composer. After James served his apprenticeship in Middletown Twp., he moved to Bristol Township where his uncle Joseph Winner lived. James was taxed there as a weaver in 1781, probably living in the home of Joseph.
By tradition, this Joseph Winner of Bristol was third generation in America, born 1735 in New Jersey, son of Joseph, grandson of Capt. James. Joseph of Bristol was taylor, and had served in the Indian Wars in the 1750s. While James was in Bristol, one of Joseph's younger sons, Joseph born 1776 was only a small child. This 4th generation Joseph moved to Philadelphia and married Elizabeth Evans. His son Joseph, 5th generation, moved to Lycoming County in the 1840s, but had moved back to Philadelphia by 1850. However, on the 1850 census in Lycoming County is one Seth Winner, age 64 (born 1786) living in Porter Township with his wife Rebecca and son Robert. This family probably belongs to the Philadelphia branch also.
After spending a year at Bristol, James Winner, the weaver, moved to Falls, Pa. and was taxed there in 1782 on two cows and a horse. Previously, in 1779 his uncle James' Estate was taxed at Falls. This elder James Winner served as a soldier in 1745, and again is listed as a soldier at Newton in 1756.
From Falls, James Winner moved across the river to Oxford Furnace in Sussex County and married Widow Mary Collins, probably in 1785. She was born Mary Parker, Jr., daughter of Humphrey Parker, Jr., a Welsh Quaker from Gwynned, Pa., and his wife, Tamar Scott, whom he had married at the First Presbyterian Church in Philadelphia in 1744..."
BIBLIOGRAPHY: [Note that some of these sources relate exclusively to the descendants of James and Mary (Parker) Winner.]
Manuscript of Harold Collins, Williamsport Pa. 1915
Manuscript of Rev. Jackson Winner, Nov. 20, 1928
Manuscript of Mabell Jeanette Winner Harrington, 1947
Bible of Jacob Winner, published by Friends, 1831
Bible of William Collins, pub. 1868
Bible of Benejah Reeder, New Test. pub. Phila. 1834
Publications of Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania
New Jersey Historical Society Proceedings
Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and National Archives
Records of Society of Friends, Muncy Monthly Meeting, Pa.
Records of Hardwick Monthly Meeting, N.J.
Records of Kingwood Monthly Meeting, N.J.
Records of Mt. Holly Monthly Meeting, N.J.
Officers & Men of N.J. in the Rev. War, Stryker
Pa. 1790 Census, 1850 Census of Lycoming and Bucks Co., Pa.
The Kirk Family, Roberts, 1912
The Lundy Family, Armstrong, 1002
History of Bucks Co., Davis 1905
The Mocking Bird, Claghorn 1937
Bucks Co. Wills, Administrations and Orphans Court Proc.
N.J. Marriage Record Books, H. Stanley Craig
Pennsylvania Magazine
Hist. Gen. Miscellany, Stillwell, 1906
Compendium of American Genealogy, Virkus
National Encyclopedia of American Biography
Early Pa. Births, Fisher, 1947
Encyclopedia American Quaker Genealogy, Hinshaw
History of Lycoming Co., Meginness, 1892
Family of William J. Collins, Jr., Siegel, 1967."
4. Sep - Nov 2011, I reviewed various history and genealogical books concerning Winners in pre-1800 Bucks County, Pennsylvania, at the Allen County Library in Fort Wayne, IN, New Jersey State Archives in Trenton, and the FHL in Salt Lake City. Bucks county is often credited as the source of early Winners who were in adjoining southern New Jersey. My research has led to concurrence with this. Possible variant spellings also checked: Weimer, Wenner, Winer, and Winne. My findings:
A. Deeds 1684-1763:
-John Winner, witness to a deed in 1731.
-Sarah Winner, widow of Jacob, deed 1753 to Mary Martin.
-Joseph Smith of Bristol Twp., 1753, to Mary Martin, widow, property sold in 1743 to William Hooper, who died intestate and sheriff sold land to Mary Martin and Sarah Winner, formerly Sarah Hooper.
B. Orphan's Court 1685-1800:
-John Subert/Subers, Middletown Twp. Mentions Sarah, eldest daughter, wife of David Winner, 1789.
-James Winner, son Joseph over age 14 petitons for guardian in 1795.
C. Tax Records 1693-1778 (year, township, name, ₤ value, tax s-d):
-1754, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 10, 1-8, married.
-1754, Middleton, Samuel Winner, 6, 1-0, single.
-1757, Middleton, Isaack Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
-1757, Middleton, John Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
-1760, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0. (Listed next to Joseph below.)
-1760, Middleton, Joseph Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1760, Middleton, Sam'l Winner at Joh. Winr., -, 9-0.
-1762, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0. (Listed next to Joseph below.)
-1762, Middleton, Joseph Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1762, Middleton, Samel Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1766, Bristol, John Winer, 18, 4-6.
-1775, Lower Makefield, John Winner.
-1775, Lower Makefield, James Winner.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Sr., 4, 2-0, married.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Jr., 4, 2-0, married.
-1778, Middleton, James Winner, 6, 3-0, single.
-1778, Middleton, Samuel Winner, 2, 2-0, married. (Listed next to John below.)
-1778, Middleton, John Winner, 3, 1-0, married.
-1778, Lower Makefield, Jacob Winner, 2, 1-0, married.
-1778, Lower Makefield, John Winner, 2, 1-0, married.
-1778, Lower Makefield, Samuel Winner, 3, 3-0, single.
-1778, Bristol, Jos. Winner, 1, 0-10, married.
D. Will abstracts 1685-1785:
-1753, Sarah Winner of Bristol Twp., son Anthony Hooper. Joseph Smith, executor.
-1754, Mentions land in Newtown on which "Joseph Winner lives after decease of wife." Principal of will, David Lavell, appears unrelated.
-1772, John Winner witness to will of Joseph Wilson of Lower Makefield.
-1777, Susan Winner witness to will of Jacob Shouch of Haycock.
E. Index of Wills and Administrations 1684-1850 [with townships noted]:
-1748, John Winner, weaver, Middletown, adm., #628. Administration only with no will.
-1753, Sarah Winner, Bristol, will, #833. Sarah Winner of Bristol Twp., son Anthony Hooper. Joseph Smith, executor. [Widow of Jacob Winner.]
-1778, Jacob, weaver, Southhampton, adm., #1563. Couldn't find but was administration only.
-1791, John Winner, Lower Makefield, will, #2356. John Winner of Lower Makefield Twp., Bucks, weaver. January 3, 1791. Proved January 23, 1791. Sons Samuel and John exrs. Ch. Rachel wife of Jacob Watson, Didwell wife of John Smith, Samuel, John, David, Joshua, and David [Moses?] Winner. Gdsns. Levi and John Terry sons of Joshua Terry. Wits: James Moon, Richard Neeld, Peter Vanhorn. Witnesses Amos Gregg and Amos Gregg, Jr.
-1796, James Winner, Warwick, adm., #2666. Couldn't find but was administration only.
-1805, Joseph Winner, Bristol, will and adm., #3313. Joseph Winner, Bristol, Bucks Co. Mother Rebecca Burton, now wife of Thomas Burton. Appoints mother and Thomas Burton as adm. Dated 11 Sep 1801. Proved 18 Mar 1805.
-1825 Winner, Southhampton, #5444. [Did not look up due lateness of date.]
-Next Winner entries are 1852 Sarah Ann Winner, 1871 Mary Winner, 1872 James Winner, and so forth.
F. 1779 Tax List:
-Isaac Winner, Sen., Middleton.
-Isaac Winner, Jun., Middleton.
-James Winner's estate, Falls.
-John Winner, Lower Makefield.
-Jos. Winner, Bristol.
-Samuel Winner, Middleton.
G. Oaths of Allegiance:
-1772, James Winner, Lower Makefield.
-1772, Jacob Winner, Southampton.
-1785, Joshua Winner, Bensalem.
-1788, John Winner (weaver), Plumstead.
H. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records 1779," transcribed by Patricia Woodruff January 2001 (Name -Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants), married men:
-Isaac Winner, Jr.-0-0-1-0 -Isaac Winner, Sen.-0-0-1-0 -Samuel Winner-0-0-1-0
I. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Bristol Township Property and Tax Records," transcribed by Patricia Woodruff February 2002 (acres - horses - cattle - servants), married men:
a. 1779:
-Joseph Winner-1-1-1-0
b. 1781
-James Winner, weaver - 0-0-2-0 -Joseph Winner, taylor - 0-1-1-0
J. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011:
a. "Falls Town Township Property and Tax Records 1779": "James Winner's est."
b. "Lower Makefield Township Property and Tax List 1779": "John Winner"
K. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records," transcribed by Laura VanSant 2003 (Name-Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants):
a. 1781:
-Isaac Winner, weaver, 0-1-1-0
b. 1782:
-Samuel Winner, 0 0 2 0
c. 1783:
-Sam'l Winner 2.10 [Not the assessment - probably the tax amount of 2 sh. 10 d.]
L. 1790 US census for Bucks County, PA (not returned by township, however, FHL film 893700 "Four Lycoming Co., Pa. Families," by Miss Ernestine Siegel, Chairman, part of the "Genealogical Collection of the Desoto Chapter, D.A.R., Tampa Florida, Jan. 1972, vol. 2, has identified individuals and localities as determined by neighbors' names), numbers are males over 16, males under 16, and females:
-John Winner (Middletown Twp.), 2-2-2.
-James Winner (Upper Makefield Twp.), 1-1-2.
-David Winner (Lower Makefield Twp.), 1-2-1.
-Samuel Winner (Lower Makefield Twp.), 3-2-2.
-Joshua Winner (Lower Makefield Twp.), 1-0-2.
-Samuel Winner (Samuel Jr. of Lower Makefield), 2-1-2.
5. I visited the New Jersey State Archives in Trenton 24 Sep 2011. I looked at all probate records for Winners and Winnes. The book (3 volumes) "State of New Jersey. Index of Wills, Inventories, Etc.," by S.D. Dickinson and J.B.R. Smith, 1912, reprinted 1969 has a comprehensive index for wills available in the N.J. Archives (or FHL film in Salt Lake City). I start first with abstracts I made and then follow with summaries of proposed families. From this study, it is apparent to me that our Winners are not descended from the Dutch Winnes of the northern New Jersey counties of Bergen, Essex, and Hudson, which is contrary to many postings found on Internet databases such as Worldconnect. On the other hand, connection of our Monmouth and Ocean Winners to the southern New Jersey (Gloucester, Burlington, Camden, Atlantic counties) Winners is more likely but very much undetermined. Also it is confirmed that Jonathan Winner left no probate if he died in New Jersey nor is he mentioned in other Winner probate records; also George King Winner is not mentioned in any probate - which supports their moving away from the area.
A. Probate abstracts:
a. BERGEN CO. WINNES:
i. 3258B: Lavinus Winner of Bergen, Bergen Co., will dated 8 Jan 1802. Mentions: wife Annatie; son Martin Winner; son Eder and his wife Attie; daughter Antia, wife of Cornelius Buskirk; and son Peter. "Items" bequeathed include "negro woman Gin, girl Peg, and boy John." Eder receives Bergen homestead and Martin receives other lands in Bergen. Will signed by a mark. Witnesses: John Dedrix, Daniel Van Winkel Jun., and Sylvester Van Buren. Executors Martin Winner and Peter Sip sign affidavit 9 Jul 1802.
ii. 3656B: John Winne, farmer of Bergen, Bergen Co., will dated 29 Apr 1796, proved 4 Oct 1813, mentions: son Martin; dau. Antia, wife of Daniel Van Winkle; Jannetie, wife of Garret Van Rype; and brother Levines Winne (in describing adjoining land; probably the Lavinus deceased 1802). Witnesses: Lanah Parine and John Anderson. Executors: Martin Winne and Daniel Van Winkel. "Items" bequeathed included a "negro man Tom" and standard farm implements. He signed with a mark and notes "my three children." A codicil dated 3 Sep 1808; it mentions Jane, wife of Garret Van Rype, and grandson John Winne; witnessed by Sylvester Van Buren and Elihu Ayres. Inv. was 7 Dec 1813 by Jacob van Wagenan and Cornelius Van Ruypers(?). Affidavits of executors dated 15 Jun 1814.
iii. 4404B: Edo Winner of Bergen Co. Inventory dated 25 Jun 1832. Administered by Nicholas Vreeland and John H. Zabriskie on same date.
b. ESSEX CO. WINNES:
i. 2313-2316G: Peter Winne of Newtown, Essex Co., dated 8 May 1755 and proved 10 May 1756. Mentions: oldest son Marte Winne; second son John Winne when he is 21 years; youngest son Abraham; two daughters Catherine and Margaret, and wife Leah. Executors are wife and sons-in-law Abraham Van Riper Jun. and Ganebrant(?) Ganebrantson. Witnesses William Dow and Jonathan Sorjont(?) signed affidavit 4 May 1756.
ii. 4225-4228G: John Winne of Newkirk (unclear - perhaps Newtown), Essex Co., administration only. Administrators are Hannah "Winner," James Joraleman, and Henry Joralemon, who all sign affidavits 9 Mar 1773.
iii. 5713-5720G: "Martha Wenne" of Newtown, Essex Co., dated 6 Jun 1769. Mentions unnamed wife and sons Peter and John (both minors). Executors are friend Abraham Van Ripe and son Peter. Witnesses are William Dow, Joseph Keen, and John Sip. Signed "Marta Winner." Affidavits signed 20 Apr 1782. Inventory 25 Mar 1783. Abraham renounces admin. 17 Mar 1783 witnessed by John "Winner" and Jacob Kneeland (Vreeland?); Jacob Kidney replaces him and that document witnessed by John "Winner" and Peter "Winne."
iv. 6476-6480G: Abraham Winner of Second River, Essex Co., will dated 3 Jul 1776. Mentions wife Hellih Winne and two minor children Nicholas and Leah Winne. Executors: are wife and friends William King of Second River and Abraham Speir of Poverethon(?) both of Essex Co. Witnesses: William Dow, Thomas Keen, Leah Winne. Affidavits by executors and witnesses signed 18 May 1786. Henry Rutan and Leah Winne of Essex Co. are appointed 21 Feb 1786 as guardians fo the two minor children (Nicholas and Leah) who are both over the age of 14.
v. 11153G: Henry Winne of Newtown, Essex Co. Will dated 17 Dec 1817. Executors are friends Nathaniel Brewer and Moses F. Davis. Mentions sister Mary Kidney (given land bordered on west by John Winne, north by Abr'm and John King...), father "Petre Winne (who appears to be living with Henry), and "Petre Kidney (son of sister). Henry appears to be unmarried without Children.
c. Hudson (CREATED from BERGEN) CO. WINNERS:
i. 1700I: Belina Winner. Inv dated 1872. Did not review due to date and that it was an inventory only.
ii. 3714I: John Winner. Inv. dated 1881. Did not review due to date and that it was an inventory only.
d. GLOUCESTER (with ATLANTIC and CAMDEN CREATED from GLOUCESTER) CO. WINNERS:
i. 2627H: Melicent Winner, wife of John Winner of Great Egg Harbor, Gloucester. Will dated 18 Apr 1791. Mentions real estate left to son Amos Winner, husband John Winner, "all my children" (unnamed). Mentions land given her by her father Joseph Mapes. Signs as "Melscent Winner." Witnesses: Daniel Leeds, John Dole, and David Scull(?). Codicil 1 Dec 1793 replaces son Amos if he dies with son John Winner; witnessed by Sam'l Delancey, John Dole, and Joseph Sharp. Affidavit of executor dated 12 Aug 1806.
ii. 3493H: John Winner Jr., "late of township of Egg Harbor," Gloucester Co. Inventory dated 27 Oct 1823. Adminstrator: Abigail Winner who signs as "Abbigail Winner." Proved 1 Nov 1823.
iii. 2973H: William Winner of Waterford Twp., Gloucester Co. Inv. appraised 15 Oct 1813. Administrator Jesse Winner's affidavit dated 26 Oct 1813.
iv. 28A: John Winner of Egg Harbor, Atlantic Co. Inv. dated 5 Dec 1839 and proved 24 Dec 1839. Administratrix: Harriet Winner. All inventory items are farm related.
v. 417A: Thomas D. Winner of Egg Harbor, Atlantic Co. Will dated 6 Mar 1868 and proved 13 Jun 1868. Inventory dated 13 Jun 1868 and includes standard household and office items. Executor David B. Somers. Mentions: wife Ann Winner (receives 1/3), son Thomas Winner (1/3 of 2/3), "little daughter Margarett Winner" (1/3 of 2/3), and son George and daughter Mary (shares 1/3 of 2/3). Will mentions "his four children"; makes wife Ann guardian of children Thomas and Margaret who are under age 14. Mentions his desire for tombstones for him and "Margaret Winner deceased." Executor: "friend David B. Somes." Witnesses: George Anderson and Elijah Townsend. Affidavits signed 13 Jun 1868.
vi. 1304A: Thomas D. Winner of Atlantic Co. Inventory dated 22 Jul 1893. Administrator George S. Winner.
vii. 1818D: Joseph T. Winner of City of Camden [Camden Co.]. Will dated __ Oct 18__ and proved 25 Nov 1879. Mentions wife Sarah S. Winner and son Frank S. Winner (executor). Witnesses: Julia S. Gillett, Lizzie L. Chesnut; affidavit dated 5 Nov 1879. e. MONMOUTH CO. WINNERS:
i. 12865M: Reuben H. Winner of Matawan Twp., Monmouth Co. Inventory only dated 14 Jul 1871 and filed 30 Aug 1871; contains normal household stuff (no seafaring items). Administrator Gordon D. White. No will.
B. Analysis based only on above probate to create proposed family groups:
a. Bergen/Essex Counties Winnes of (Dutch) Albany, New York, ancestry. The following two family groups are from the same root as shown in the article "The Winne Family" in the publication "The Dutch Settlers Society of Albany Yearbook, 40 (1964-1966), 6-28. Family #1 connects back to Peter1 Winne, the founder of this line, by Peter's son Marten2; the Peter below is son of Marten2. As for Family #2, John and Lavinus are sons of Marten3 (Levinus2, Peter1).
Family #1:
-Peter Winne (-1756) and wife Leah
-Martin [aka Marte or Martha] (-1782) and wife ___
-Peter (minor in 1769)
-Henry (-1817)
-Mary wife of ___ Kidney
-Peter (bef. 1817-)
-John (minor in 1769)
-John (-1773) and wife Hannah
-Abraham (-1786) and wife Hellih. Children:
-Nicholas (minor over age 14 in 1786)
-Leah (minor over age 14 in 1786)
-Catherine (m. to Abraham Van Riper by 1755)
-Margaret (m. to Ganebrant Ganebrantson by 1755)
Family #2:
-___ Winne
-John (-1813)
-Martin
-John
-Antia, wife of Daniel Van Winkle
-Jannetie (Jane), wife of Garret Van Rype
-Lavinus (-1802) and wife Annatie
-Martin
-Eder/Edo (-1832) and wife Attia
-Peter
-Antia, wife of Cornelius Buskirk
-Unnamed daughter (will says "my daughters" but only lists Antia)
b. Gloucester/Atlantic/Camden Co. Winners:
Family #1 (Egg Harbor):
-John Winner and Millicent Mapes (-1806), dau. of Joseph Mapes
-Amos
-John, Jr. (-1823) and wife Abigail (probate administrator)
-Possibly others (will states "all my children")
Family #2 (Egg Harbor):
-John (-1839) and wife Harriet (probate administrator)
Family #3 (Egg Harbor):
-Thomas D. Winner (-1868) and wife Ann
-Margaret (-bef 1868)
-George S.
-Mary
-Thomas D. (under age 14 in 1868; d. 1893)
-Margaret (under age 14 in 1868)
Family #4 (Camden, Camden Co.):
-Joseph T. Winner (-1879) and wife Sarah S.
-Frank S.
Family #5 (Waterford, Gloucester Co.):
-William Winner (-1813)
-Jesse Winner (probate adminstrator) [probable brother based on 1793 tax lists]
c. Miscellaneous Winners:
Family #1 (Matawan, Monmouth): [Brother of George King Winner and son of Isaac of Dover Twp.]
-Reuben H. Winner (-1871)
Family #2 (Delanco, Burlington Co.): [This is the Rev. Isaac Winner.]
-Isaac C. Winner (-1868)
-John Ogden
-Ann Eliza (-bef 1868), wife of L.L.(?) Cowper
-unnamed Child
-unnamed Child
-Josephine P., wife of Dr. Banks
-Wm. W.
-Isaac C.
-Issaiella, wife of ___ Bergen
6. From tax lists and early censuses, there are other Winners in other areas of New Jersey including:
A. SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY:
-Abraham (Winnor and Winner): Northampton, Burlington Co. Various Lists: 1774, 1787.
-Jesse: Northampton Burlington Co. 1793 Tax List
-Septuan: Northampton Burlington Co. 1793 Tax List
-William: Northampton Burlington Co. 1793 Tax List
-John: Great Egg Harbor, Gloucester Co. Various Lists for 1774, 1780, 1781 (Winer), 1782, 1783,
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