Eva or Eve Frederick

Female 1756 - 1830  (74 years)

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  • Name Eva or Eve Frederick 
    Born 8 Aug 1756  Warrensbush (now Florida), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States. Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Died 1 Nov 1830  Glen Township, Montgomery, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried Pruyn and Faulkner Cemetery, Glen, Montgomery, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I2143  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 2 Aug 2015 

    Father Philip Frederick,   b. 26 Aug 1734, of, Palatinate, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. From 7 May 1804 to 6 Nov 1804, Florida, Montgomery, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 69 years) 
    Mother Maria Sophia Saltz,   b. Abt 1731, of Mill Point, Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1804, of Florida, Montgomery, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 72 years) 
    Married 11 Nov 1752  High and Low Dutch Reformed Congregation, Schoharie, Schoharie, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F624  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Cornelius Van Horne,   b. 10 May 1745, Upper Freehold Township, Monmouth, New Jersey, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Feb 1823, near Millpoint, Montgomery, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years) 
    Married Bef 1776  of Caughnawaga (now Fonda), Montgomery, New York, United States. Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 22 Oct 2015 
    Family ID F1123  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
      1. FHL book 974.761D2G "Early Families of Herkimer County New York, Descendants of the Burnetsfield Palatines," by William V.H. Barker, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1986, preface:
      "In 1664 the British took control of New York State and the Mohawk Valley area came under the jurisdiction of Albany County from that time until about 1774 when it became Tryon county (in 1784 the area was renamed as Montgomery county, the western portion of which was set off in 1791 as Herkimer County). In modern times, Herkimer County bounded by Oneida County on the west and by Montgomery and Fulton Counties on the east." [N.B. Tryon was changed to Montgomery because Tryon followed the Tory cause whereas Montgomery was a patriot.]

      2. Censuses:
      1790 US: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/census/mohawk1790.html; 1790 Census, Montgomery County, MohawkTown:
      1st No.-Free white males over 16 years 2nd No.-Free white males under 16 years 3rd No.-Free white females 4th No.-All other free persons 5th No.-Slaves
      Brittain, Abraham - 1-2-5-0-0 [Abraham Brinton?] Frederick, Francis - 1-3-3-0-0 Frederick, Peter - 1-3-5-0-0 Frederick, Philip - 1-0-1-0-2
      Marlet, Michael - 1-1-4-0-0 Mower, Hendrick - 1-1-1-0-0
      VanHorn, Cornelius - 2-2-5-0-0 VanHorn, Thomas - 1-1-5-0-*

      3. From my visit to the Montgomery County, NY, Archives Sep 2007, the following typescript was in the Van Horne Family file, author and date unknown, p. 44:
      "Cornelius, b. 10 May 1745, d. 6 Feb 1823, Montgomery Co., NY.; md. Eve Fredericks, b. 1750, d. 1830, dau. of Philip Fredericks. He and his brother, Thomas, left NJ, and settled before the Revolution in Tryon Co., and both served in the Battle of Oriskany in that war, etc. See 'DAR Rolls, 106:217; 115:300.' His gravestone is in the Van Horne cem. near Mill Point, NY, which states he was aged 77 at death, his wife, Eve, aged 74. This grave is decorated by the DAR (Ms. at NY State Library, DAR Graves A124,161; 10:35.) children (Van Horne), b. Montgomery Co., NY, (1) Sophia; (2) Nellie; (3) Hannah; (4) Elizabeth; (5) Philip; (6) Abram; (7) Cornelius C.; (8) Maria."

      4 The book "Our Van Horne Kindred," by Elsie O. Hallenback, 1958, copy in the Montgomery County NY Archives:
      "Cornelius Van Horne, oldest child of Mathias Van Horne and Nelly Crumm, was born in Upper Freehold, NJ on March 10, 1745. When a young man he came to Warrensbush, Tryon Co., NY where he worked for Philip Frederick who had a grist mill and saw mill at Mill Point, along the Schoharie Creek. Philip Frederick was the son of Peter Frederick, a Palatine who had been driven out of south-west Germany during a religious persecution, and emigrated to Mill Point where he settled and raised his family. According to the records of the Old Dutch Reformed Church of Schoharie, NY, he and Sophia Saltz, daughter of Francis Saltz, were registered for marriage on Nov. 11, 1752...
      Cornelius Van Horne married Eve Frederick, the fifth child of Philip Frederick and Sophia Saltz, and they built a home on the opposite side of the Schoharie Creek from that of her parents. There is an old lease in existence dated May 6, 1792 for this land which was in the very north-east section of the Corry Patent and in the Town of Glen, Montgomery County. It was given to Cornelius Van Horne by Silvanus Wilcox, and the witnesses where Thomas B. Vinman and Abraham Vootsik..." [Kerry's note: I am not sure how the author reckoned that Eve was the fifth child of Philip and Sophia.]

      5. The book "History of Montgomery and Fulton Counties, N.Y.," reprinted 2002 (originally printed in the 1880s):
      A. Eve took care of her grandfather Francis Saltz and planned the dinner for his funeral: "There was a family named Coss among Saltz's neighbors, and both the parents falling sick and dying, he took their children to his house for care. When one of them had become a young lady of eighteen, Saltz, then a widower of ninety, fell in love with and married her. All the neighborhood was invited to the wedding, and it was a gay time in the old Dutch fachion. The sequel was hardly as gay to the aged bridegroom, for his youthful bride ran away in a year with a hired man, incidentally taking the old man's money, which was in silver and kept in a hair trunk ornamented with fancy nails. This trunk is now owned and used by the C.C. Van Horne, aged 84, who is a great grandson of Saltz; and it is as nice as when the second Mrs Saltz skipped away with the hired man and the silver. It is not related that the old man pined for his graceless companion; but during the few remaining years of his life, he would sometimes sit down and count over his silver money, doubtless thinking bitterly of that which was spirited out of the hair trunk. These last years he spent with his grand-daughter, Mrs. Cornelius Van Horne. At his death, she, according to the custom of the day, baked for all his friends - some two hundred - who were expected to attend the funeral, but the creek was so high that only the pall bearers, in two canoes, crossed it; they buried the aged man on his homestead, of which he had never obtained any title."
      B. An accident involving Mrs. Cornelius Van Horne on Schoharie Creek: "In olden times a dangerous dugway skirted the so-called 'blue bank,' near Mill Point. It was a narrow track, and having for a time no railing, was the scene of several perilous accidents in which, however, no loss of life occurred. One of them, at least, had a humorous phase. Jacob Van Horne undertook to drive by this point with Mrs. Cornelius Van Horne and another lady in his wagon. One of the horses took to kicking, and both of them, with the vehicle, went off the bank. The driver and the younger lady managed to jump out, but Mrs. Van Horne, as well as the horses, brought up in a bed of soft blue clay at the foot of the declivity. Her eyes and mouth were filled with the mud, and she was motionless and silent. One of the men who came to the rescue remarked that she was dead, and they had better leave her and attend to the living woman, who was hurt and screaming with pain and fright. The old lady's ears were still open, it seems, and hearing this obituary remark, she spit out a mouthful of clay and shouted, 'I ain't dead yet!' She was not indeed, but lived to startle a worthy laborer, named Snyder, who was employed at setting posts for a railing to protect this very spot. He had just finished a toilsome job on a large white oak post as Mrs. Van Horne came up the hill, unobserved by him; and leaning his spade on it, stepped back a little, took off his hat, wiped his sweaty forehead, and said aloud, 'There! Thats good enough for the devil, and what's good enough for him, is good enough for any one!' 'Why, Mr. Snyder?' inquired the old lady. 'Hello!' said the workman, as he jumped round: 'I didn't see you. How you scairt me!' The solidity of Snyder's work was shown in connection with a breakdown which happened at this point sometime after. The team getting loose from the wagon, backed over the verge, one each side of the big white oak post, and the neck-yoke catching on that, the horses were suspended until the men, despairing of getting them back, cut them loose and let them slide to the bottom, where they landed without serious injury."

      1. The Philip Frederick Mill dates from 1750 according to the New York state historical highway marker sign. Maria Saltz's father lived just down the road. This would help us surmise that all of their children were born at "Millpoint" within the modern boundaries of Florida Township in Montgomery County. Millpoint still shows up on modern-day maps and was probably named after the Frederick Mill. See Philip's notes for more on this mill and its present-day location.

      1. Listed as parents per "Records of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Caughnawaga: now the Reformed Church of Fonda, in the village of Fonda, Montgomery County, N.Y.," New York, unknown, 1917, 748 pp.: Elizabeth, b. 21 Apr, offspring of Cornelius Van Hoorn and Eva Fredrick, baptized 6 Jun 1785 with sponsors John Carl and Sophia Cary.

      1. Typescript from Montgomery Co., NY, Archives: "Montgomery County Cemetery Records," copied by Mrs. Frank Becker, and published in the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society Quarterlies - Vol. LIX (July 1928): Van Horne Graveyard, in vicinity of Mill Point, near Amsterdam (Montgomery County), NY, among many names:
      Nellie Crum, wife of Mathew Van Horne, d. 5/3/1803 ae abt. 80 yrs. [Cornelius's mother.]
      Eve Frederic Van Horne, wife of Cornelius Van Horne, d. 11/1/1830, in 75th yr.
      Cornelius Van Horne, d. 2/6/1823, in 78th yr.

      2. Findagrave lists the cemetery name as Pruyn & Faulkner Cemetery in Glen, Montgomery, New York, and includes a photo. Cornelius is shown as a Revolutionary War soldier.