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Jacob Winner

Male Bef 1751 - 1778  (> 27 years)


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  • Name Jacob Winner 
    Born Bef 1751  of Middletown Township, Bucks, Pennsylvania, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 1778  Southampton, Bucks, Pennsylvania, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I1973  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Isaac Winner,   b. Bef 1733, of Middletown Township, Bucks, Pennsylvania, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1781, Middletown Township, Bucks, Pennsylvania, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age > 48 years) 
    Mother Rebecca 
    Family ID F470  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth Hellings 
    Married 29 Sep 1774  Saint Marys Church formerly Saint Anns Church, Mount Holly, Burlington, New Jersey, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F1200  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. Caution! The case for Jacob being a son of Isaac and Rebecca is circumstantial and not proven, but I believe probable in light of Ernestine Siegel's quote below. I also include other research in which I have found Jacob's name in public records.

      2. The following is a partial transcript concerning Jacob Winner from the "The Ancestry & Descendants of James Winner of Sussex Co., N.J. & Lycoming Co., Pa.," first edition; Editor: Ernestine Siegel, 1906 Watrous Avenue, Tampa, Florida, 33606; 1969; revised 1970; privately printed with copy in my possession, Preface, pp. 1-15, and Bibliography. (See notes of the earliest "generic" Winner for the full transcript.) She has collected a tremendous amount of information and identified the early Winners centered around Bucks County in Southeast Pennsylvania near Philadelphia and in the adjoining western counties of New Jersey just across the the state line formed by the Delaware River. She gives some generic information on the antiquity of the Winner name before providing a comprehensive listing of what is known to date on all early Winners in our targeted geographic area. I believe she has probably found all of them; however, the connections between each of them is obscure and subject to speculation. She acknowledges that many vital NJ records were destroyed in the Revolutionary War. She also recommends that: "Straightening out the Winner family tree will be a long tedious job for someone, for only by extensive search of colonial church records in both Pa. and N.J. can the various relationships be settled." Even though the entire transcript should be read for context, I include some specific quotes pertaining to Isaac as follows:
      "Jacob WINNER of MIDDLETOWN and SOUTHHAMPTON.
      Jacob Winner was married at St. Mary's Church, Burlington Co., N.J. on Sept. 29, 1774. In 1775 he is listed as a non-associator of Middletown Twp., Bucks Co. Pa. He died in 1778 in Southampton, Bucks Co., Pa., his widow Elizabeth (Hellingh) surviving him. (Bucks Co. File 1563). His occupation was that of a weaver. Dirck Hogeland of Southhampton and Amos Lubers of Northhampton were fellow bondsmen. William Mannington was witness, inventory by Phineas Paxton and Joseph Van Pelt."
      Author continues with a part II, pp. 16-58, which specifically concerns her ancestor James Winner (who married Mary Parker and Mary Kester) and his descendants. James was the son of Isaac and Rebecca Winner. This portion of the overall transcript is contained in the notes of James Winner. There are two excerpts, however, that I include as follows in which the author seems to identify (or assume) a relationship of James which if correctly surmised would make Jacob the brother of James:
      "Coming from a family that was only half Quaker, James Winner in his earlier years had several times found his beliefs running contrary to those of the Quaker church. Consequently, while serving apprenticeship as a teenage boy in Middletown Township, Bucks Co., Pa. in 1775 - learning to become a weaver - James had served a term as soldier in the Bucks County Associators, although his brothers Isaac and Jacob, as Quakers, did not. (James' elder cousin, James, son of John of Lower Makefield, had already moved to Lower Makefield Township with his brother John Jr. and served as an associator there in the same year.) Again, during later years in New Jersey, James Winner married his first wife out of meeting, as well as his second wife. However, he always returned to the church and brought up his children to be Quakers.
      "...By legend, at the time [1801] James Winner migrated to Lycoming County, he had only two brothers still living, one in New Jersey, and one in Bucks County. Also by legend, he is said to have named his three sons for his three brothers. His elder brother was Abraham Winner of Mt. Holly, Burlington Co., New Jersey, an innkeeper and a New Jersey Revolutionary Soldier. The second brother Isaac was taxed at Middletown Township, Bucks Co., Pa. as early as 1779, although it is believed he was born in Burlington Co., N.J. The third brother, Jacob Winner, died in Southhampton Township, Bucks Co., Pa. in 1778. (Both Isaac and Jacob were weavers.) Dirck Hogeland signed bond for the estate. The father of James is considered to be Isaac Sr. who was also taxed in Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. In 1779 but then disappears from the tax lists. The mother of James is said to be Rebecca. His birth record eludes us as it is not known which side of the Delaware River he was born on. (His cousin James mentioned before, died in Warwick Township, Bucks Co, Pa. In 1796.) The marriage records of Isaac Jr. and Jacob Winner are found in the New Jersey Archives."

      3. On 10 Sep 2011, I reviewed various history and genealogical books concerning Winners in pre-1800 Bucks County, Pennsylvania, at the Allen County Library in Fort Wayne, IN. Bucks county is sometimes credited as the source of early Winners who were in adjoining southern New Jersey. Possible variant spellings also checked: Weimer, Wenner, Winer, and Winne. My findings with Jacob Winner:
      A. Tax Records 1693-1778 (year, township, name, ₤ value, tax s-d):
      -1754, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 10, 1-8, married.
      -1754, Middleton, Samuel Winner, 6, 1-0, single.
      -1757, Middleton, Isaack Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
      -1757, Middleton, John Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
      -1760, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0. (Listed next to Joseph below.)
      -1760, Middleton, Joseph Winner, 4, 1-0.
      -1760, Middleton, Sam'l Winner at Joh. Winr., -, 9-0.
      -1762, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0. (Listed next to Joseph below.)
      -1762, Middleton, Joseph Winner, 4, 1-0.
      -1762, Middleton, Samel Winner, 4, 1-0.
      -1766, Bristol, John Winer, 18, 4-6.
      -1775, Lower Makefield, John Winner.
      -1775, Lower Makefield, James Winner.
      -1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Sr., 4, 2-0, married.
      -1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Jr., 4, 2-0, married.
      -1778, Middleton, James Winner, 6, 3-0, single.
      -1778, Middleton, Samuel Winner, 2, 2-0, married. (Listed next to John below.)
      -1778, Middleton, John Winner, 3, 1-0, married.
      -1778, Lower Makefield, Jacob Winner, 2, 1-0, married.
      -1778, Lower Makefield, John Winner, 2, 1-0, married.
      -1778, Lower Makefield, Samuel Winner, 3, 3-0, single.
      -1778, Bristol, Jos. Winner, 1, 0-10, married.
      B. Index of Wills and Administrations 1684-1850 (did not look up individual documents):
      -1748, John Winner, Middletown(?), adm., #628.
      -1753, Sarah Winner, Bristol, will, #833.
      -1778, Jacob, Southhampton, adm., #1563.
      -1791, John Winner, Lower Makefield, will, #2356.
      -1796, James Winner, Warwick, adm., #2666.
      -1805, Joseph Winner, Bristol, will and adm., #3313.
      C. Oaths of Allegiance:
      -1772, James Winner, Lower Makefield.
      -1772, Jacob Winner, Southampton.
      -1785, Joshua Winner, Bensalem.
      -1788, John Winner (weaver), Plumstead.

      4. I found the following additional quotes from several publications that add further information on the southern New Jersey Winners:
      A. FHL book 974.961 V2c "Burlington County Marriages," by H Stanley Craig (1932, rep. 2003), pp. 95, 233, 248:
      -Abraham Winner - Mary Thatcher, 9-13-1769. [See next note below for variation on this entry.]
      -Jacob Winner - Elizabeth Hellings, 9-24-1774. [See next note below for variation on this entry.]
      -John Winner - Hannah Car, 4-1-1776.
      -Amos Winner - Mary Brackney, 9-16-1805.
      -William Winner - Mary Horner, 7-15-1808.
      -Joseph Githens - Susannah Winner, 12-20-1827.
      -John Vanhorn - Eliza "Winnnr," 1-16-1830.
      -Thomas Winner, Jr. (s. of Thomas and Sarah), Caldwell, N.J. - Hannah Williams (dau. of George and Margaret), 3-6-1832.
      -Richard Winner, Trenton - Elizabeth Rosman, 10-27-1832.
      B. FHL film 1320671, it. 5, the book "Historical and Genealogical Miscellany, Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey," by John E. Stillwell (Baltimore, 1970), p. 72, "Register of St. Mary's Church, Burlington, N.J.":
      -p. 72: "Married - Abraham Winner & Mary Hatcher, both of Burlington County, were lawfully married, Septem'r 3d 1769, at Mountholly."
      -p. 88: "Married - Sept. 29, 1774, Jacob Winner & Elizabeth Hellings." [Possibly a grand-daughter of Nicholas Hellings of Bucks Co,?]
      C. "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson:
      a. Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents:
      -Winner, Amos, and Rebeca Cooper, 1779 May 1.
      -Winner, Isaac, Bucks, PA, and Hannah Searl, Bucks, PA, 1776 Nov. 9. [Could this be a first marriage for the Isaac Winner of Dover as well as a potential birthplace of Bucks Co., PA?]
      -Winner, Jacob, Bucks, PA, and Elizabeth Helling, Bucks, PA, 1774 Sep 29.
      -Winner, John, Northampton, and Hannah Carr, Northampton, 1776 April 1.

      5. The following interesting marriage is reported in the 1770s for perhaps a close relation or even brother to Abraham, John, and Isaac that will need closer scrutiny with further research. FHL film 1320671, it. 5, the book "Historical and Genealogical Miscellany, Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey," by John E. Stillwell (Baltimore, 1970), p. 72, "Register of St. Mary's Church, Burlington, N.J.," p. 88:
      "Married - Sept. 29, 1774, Jacob Winner & Elizabeth Hellings." Note this is the same church in which Abraham was also married in 1769. The book "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, "Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents" adds a residence: "Winner, Jacob, Bucks, PA, and Elizabeth Helling, Bucks, PA, 1774 Sep 29." I have not seen ongoing records thereafter for Jacob in New Jersey, so I suspect he married "out of meeting" and returned to Pennsylvania. We do find a Bucks Co. tax record in 1778, "Lower Makefield, for Jacob Winner, married." There was another Jacob in Southampton Twp., Burks Co. who appears on a 1772 tax list then in probate: "1778, Jacob, weaver, Southhampton, adm., #1563"; couldn't find actual probate, but was administration only. A couple of loose unsubstantiated Worldconnect entries show that Jacob who married Elizabeth Helling was son of a Jacob in Bucks co. - probably should consider the possibility that Southampton Jacob could be father of Lower Makefield Jacob. No other entries in Bucks Co. for a Jacob after 1778. A more likely explanation and one that Ernestine Siegel mentions in her book is that these two Jacobs were in fact the one and the same with Jacob then dying relatively young. His age would be surmised from the earliest entry with him being at least 21.

      6. The following is a copy of email dated 4 Jul 2004 from Gary Coon in which was early discussion of the Winners of Egg Harbor. I believe my subsequent research reported above in a separate note has clarified many of the individuals mentioned below. I retain the note because there are still some very early Winners that we have not fully followed. I believe the second generation of Winners in Northampton Twp., Burlington, NJ, were exclusively sons of Abraham. They most likely include William, Jesse, Septuan/Septimus, John and probably others I have not yet studied. Gary's partial quote with my bracketed [comments]:
      "...Now John Winner Sr. of Great Egg Harbor did have ties to the Winner boys of neighboring Burlington Co. Going over the tax records, land records, wills, and marriages of this group, there could be seven brothers: Abraham, Jesse, Thomas, William, John, Samuel, Septimus. (It is said that traditionally a Septimus is the seventh son.) These guys show up together on wills, land deals, and such. Ex: Septimus and William owed his father-in-law's estate for three years rent. Jesse and John are mentioned elsewhere as owning money together. I believe John married Hannah Carr on 1 Apr 1776. She died in childbirth in 1778. He married Melicent Mapes (widow of John Coates) afterward settled in Great Egg Harbor with her family (if not already living there).
      So John [Winner of Clermont Co., OH who md. Hester Ann Mason] could have been the son of one of them. I've ruled out John, Septimus (he moved to Butler Co., OH, but his son John is said to be the one ending up in Logan co., OH), William died 1813 (and the adm'r was Jesse Winner; no family mentioned), and Thomas was a resident of Philadelphia at the time of his marriage in 1780 (though he had property in Burlington and his wife was living there at the time of the marriage). John [of Clermont Co., OH] was born in 1786 in NJ but both parents were listed from PHIL on a 1798 land sale in Burlington. Most likely his father was Abraham, Jesse, or Samuel. [My comments: John of Clermont, OH was the son of Isaac of Dover. John who md. Hannah Carr and Melicent was brother of Abraham. Jesse, William, Septimus, and a later John (who I believe Gary confuses with John of Clermont, OH and who was b. 1786 NJ) were of a later generation and probable sons of Abraham who is said to have been buried in Philadelphia with a son Joseph and Elizabeth. Judging from Thomas's marriage date, he is more likely of Abraham's generation and needs to be more fully identified.]
      Other Winner males about his age, said to be related to Abraham are: Isaac Sr. m. Hannah Searle 9 Nov 1776 in NJ (both from Bucks Co., PA) and Jacob m. Elizabeth Helling 29 Sep 1774 in NJ (both from Bucks Co., PA). [Isaac is brother to Abraham and Jacob is yet to be identified but certainly of Abraham's generation.]