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Hans Jacob Frederick

Male 1743 - Abt 1821  (~ 77 years)


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  • Name Hans Jacob Frederick 
    Christened 5 Jun 1743  Fort Hunter, Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Abt 24 May 1821  Johnstown Township, Fulton, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I1869  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Johan Peter Frederick,   b. From 1692 to 1697, of Mainz, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. From 1766 to 1774, of Mohawk Township (now Florida), Tryon (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 74 years) 
    Mother Anna Veronica Braun,   b. Bef 1703, of Mainz, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 26 Nov 1722  Katholische Kirche Sankt Ignaz, Mainz, Hessen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F726  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Maragrita or Maria Young,   b. Abt 1751, Warrensbush (now Florida), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1810, of Johnstown, Fulton, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 60 years) 
    Married Bef 1770  of Warrensbush (now Florida), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Pieter or Peter Frederick,   c. 12 Mar 1770, Schenectady, Albany (now Schenectady), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Aug 1822  (Age ~ 52 years)
     2. Phillip J. Frederick,   b. 7 Mar 1772, of Warrensbush (now Florida), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 May 1857, Johnstown Township, Fulton, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 85 years)
     3. George Frederick,   b. 11 Jan 1775, of Warrensbush (now Florida), Tryon (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Nov 1824, Keck Center, Fulton, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 49 years)
     4. Willem or William or Wilhelm Frederick,   c. 16 Apr 1777, Caughnawaga (now Fonda), Tryon (now Montgomery), New York, United States. Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1855, of Johnstown Township, Fulton, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 79 years)
     5. Hannah Frederick,   b. Abt 1779, of Warrensbush (now Florida), Tryon (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. Eve Frederick,   b. 4 Apr 1782, of Warrensbush (now Florida), Tryon (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
     7. Maragriet or Margaret Frederick,   b. 12 Jan 1785, of Warrensbush (now Florida), Montgomery, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Mar 1875  (Age 90 years)
     8. Jacob Frederick,   b. 1788, of Warrensbush (now Florida), Montgomery, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
     9. Lodowyk or Lodewyk or Ludwick Frederick,   b. 23 May 1791, of Warrensbush (now Florida), Montgomery, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1821  (Age > 31 years)
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F829  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. Censuses:
      1790 US: The alphabetical online list of the 1790 Town of Caughnawaga census.http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/census/caughna1790.html. This census included 721 families. Caughnawaga is now called Fonda. 1790 Census, Montgomery County, Caughnawaga Town:
      1st No.-Free white males over 16 years 2nd No.-Free white males under 16 years 3rd No.-Free white females 4th No.-All other free persons 5th No.-Slaves Frederick, Jacob - 2-3-4-0-0

      1810 US: The following are all of the Fredericks in Montgomery County, New York. The columns are first male then female 0-9, 10-15, 16-25, 26-44, 45+, and then other free persons and slaves:
      Johnstown Township, p. 16, all right next to each other with the first two being 7 names apart from the second group of three:
      Philip Frederick, 1-1-0-0-1; 1-1-0-0-1-0-0
      Eve Frederick, 0-2-0-0-0; 1-0-0-0-1-0-0
      Jacob Frederick, 0-0-2-0-1; 1-0-0-0-1-0-0
      George Frederick, 1-0-0-1-0; 2-0-1-0-0-0-0
      William Frederick, 2-0-0-1-0; 2-0-1-0-0-0-0
      Florida Township [which follows Johnstown Township], p. 34:
      Sarah Frederick, 0-0-1-0-0; 0-0-0-0-1-0-0
      Minden Township, p. 96:
      Polly Frederick, 2-0-0-0-1; 1-0-1-0-1-0-0

      2. The book "Even More Palatine Families, 18th Century Immigrants to the American Colonies and their German, Swiss and Austrian Origins," v. 1, by Henry Z. Jones and Lewis Buncker Rohrbach, copy in Montgomery County, NY, Archives [note that author has an additional two earlier books on the same subject: "The Palatine Families of New York: A Study of the German Immigrants Who arrived in New York in 1710," (1985); "More Palatine Families," (1991), both of which I have reviewed without finding our Fredericks]:
      "Johann Peter Friederich. Peter Freidrick was naturalized 3 July 1759 (Scott & Stryker-Rodda, p. 29). On 8 Jul 1761, the petition of Peter Frederick was referred (see 'Land Patents' 16:45; also 'New York Colony, Calendar of Council Minutes 1668-1783,' compiled by Berthold Fernow, p. 404). Petter Fredrick was on a tax list of Mohawk in 1766 ('Upstate New York in the 1760s,' by Florence Christoph, p. 129). Johann Peter Frederich and wife Anna Veronica (Phronica) had issue:
      a. Philip, banns registered to marry 11 Nov 1752 Maria Sophia Salzer/Sals (Schoharie Reformed Chbk). Some of their ch. are found bpt. in the Ogilvie Records, Trinity Church, NY City. Philip Frederick was naturalized 11 Sep 1761 (Scott & Stryker-Rodda, p. 29). Philip Fredrick was on a tax list of Mohawk in 1766 ('Upstate New York in the 1760s,' by Florence Christoph, p. 129). The will of a Philip Frederick of Florida was dated 7 May 1804 (Montgomery Co. Wills Vol. 1).
      b. Bernhard, bpt. as 'Barent' July 1739 - sp: Barent Vroman and Engel (Fort Hunter Chbk). A Bernhard Friedrich md. 6 Jan 1771 Dorothea Schenck (Stone Arabia Reformed Chbk).
      c. Anna Magdalena, bpt. June 1741 - sp: Joseph... (Fort Hunter Chbk).
      d. Johann Jacob, bpt. 5 June 1743 - sp: Hans Huber and Jacob Naef and wife (Fort Hunter Chbk).
      e. Ludwig (HJ), the Lodewyck Fredrich who md. 31 March 1774 Alida Miller (Caughnawaga Reformed Chbk).
      f. Frans (HJ), the Frans Fredrick who md. 30 Dec 1774 Susanna Cosaadt (Caughnawaga Reformed Chbk). A chapter on Francis Frederick, b. Aug 1753 at Florida Twp., Montgomery Twp., is to be found in 'The Bloodied Mohawk,' by Ken D. Johnson, p. 410."
      [Kerry's notes: I have seen the book "The Bloodied Mohawk" in regards to Franz and it only contains information from his pension application, which I already have on file. Please also note that the author incorrectly assigns Frans as a child of Peter - he was a grandson, not a son. In regards to Ludwig, this is the only reference I can find of him whatsoever; there does not seem to be any christening record for him and his being listed a child of Peter is possible and perhaps likely but not proven. Please also note that even though some church records for the Fredericks are found in New York City Church records, this is only because clergymen from those Churches would travel up to "Mohawk" land. Note also that the Fredericks would use varying Protestant Churches in the vicinity depending apparently on which direction they were traveling or where there was a clergyman available to perform the rites.]

      3. From the book "Compendium of Early Mohawk Valley Families," by Maryly B. Penrose, v. 1, p. 281, Birth/Baptism: "Frederick, Jacob and Maria/Maragrita (Young):
      Willem, b. 1777, bapt. 16 Apr 1777 (DRC:42) Sponsors: Willem Yong and Rachel Yong.
      Eva, b. 4 Apr 1782, bapt. 12 May 1782 (DRC: 62) Sponsors: Peter Fredk. and Alida Fredk.
      Maragriet, b. 12 Jan 1785, bapt. ? Feb 1785 (DRC:71) sponsors: Jacob Bossert and Maragrita Bosserd.
      Lodowyk, b. 23 May 1791, bapt. 26 Jun 1791, bapt. 26 Jun 1791 (DRC:98) Sponsors: Hendrick Severs and his wife.

      4. Montgomery County, NY, Archives 19 Sep 2007 visit: Book "First Dutch Reformed Church of Schenectady, Records of Baptisms, Vol. II, 1754-1777":
      A. 1770, Maart 11, Pieter, Parents: Jacob Frederick and Margarit Jong; Sponsors: Pieter Jong and Sophia Jong.

      5. The booklet on the Frederick family by Mrs. Alida Reed of Gloversville, NY, 1957 (she died Dec 1966) with copies at the Montgomery Co., NY, Archives and a microfilmed copy on FHL film 1312457, item 4). Alida descends through Hans Jacob Frederick and Margaret Young. She erroneously connects our Johan Peter Frederick to Conrad, then John, then to Kym Frederick of early New Amsterdam. I have since concluded this to be an erroneous connection (see notes of Johan Peter Frederick for a discussion of this subject). She has, however, done some very good research on our known family including the following:
      A. "Jacob was in service during the Revolutionary War, having served as an enlisted man in the third Regiment, Tryon County Militia, Colonel Frederic Fisher's Company. (See "New York in the Revolutionary War," by Roberts, p. 180.)"
      B. "Married Margaret Young, bought land at Keck Center [near Johnstown] on 21 Jan 1792. This lot is number 537 in the Western allotment of the Kingsborough patent, and was purchased from Abraham TenEyck of Albany... the lot was first owned by Mathew Nischer of Albany. He sold to Abraham TenEyck on 28 Nov 1786..."
      C. Jacob and his wife Margaret appear to have acted as sponsors for all the first born grandchildren of each of their children from the limited records we have of the baptisms.

      5. Some databases contain a Lawrence, b. abt 1787, but I have not yet found substantiation for this. It may be simply an alternate spelling of Lodewick. Alida Reed does not have a Lawrence in her children's list for this couple.

      6. The book "The Book of Names, Especially Relating to the Early Palatines and the Frist Settlers in the Mohawk Valley," by Lou D. MacWethy, 1933: "Tryon County Militia, 3rd Regiment, Col. Frederick Fisher":
      Fredreck, Jacob
      Frederick, Peter
      Frederick, Francis
      Fredrick, Philip

      BIRTH:
      1. From the book "Compendium of Early Mohawk Valley Families," by Maryly B. Penrose, v. 1, p. 281, Birth/Baptism: "Frederick, Johan Peter and Anna Phronica (?):
      Barent, bapt. 15 Jul 1739 (FH:7) Sponsors: Barent Vroman Jur., Engletie Hansen.
      Ann Magdalene, bapt. 21 Jun 1741 (FH:14) Sponsors: Joseph Walleshous and his wife.
      Hans Jacob, bapt. 5 Jun 1743 (FH:21) Sponsors: Hans Huber, Jacob Naef and his wife.
      Source: Register of Queen's Anne's Chapel, Fort Hunter, NY - Baptisms, Marriages, Communicants and Funeral, begun by Henry Barclay at Fort Hunter, January 26, 1734.

      2. Descendants of Hans Marti Naf: http://kanga.cc.wmich.edu/~rudged/gen/neff.html records of Queen Anne's Chapel Register of Baptisms, Marriages and Funerals at Fort Hunter, NY: "June 5, 1743 - Hans Jacob bapt. son of Johan Peter Frederick; Sureties (Sponsors), Hans Huber and Jacob Neef and his wife"

      3. Montgomery County, NY, Archives 19 Sep 2007 visit: Book "Register of Baptisms, Marriages, Communicants and Funerals Begun by Henry Barclay at Fort Hunter, Jan. 26th 1734" (Queen Anne Chapel 1734-1743). There are as many Indian baptisms as there are Caucasians at this time. Names of interest:
      A. "Anna Eva, Daughter of Hannis Gleyn and Mary Christina his wife, Bap't the 25th of Jan'ry 1738/9. Nicoleas Hall, Mary Hall, Anna Eva Saltser, Surties."
      B. "Mary, Daughter of Johannis Cleyn and Mary Christina his wife Baptized May 25th 1740. Frans Saltser, Annatie Newkerk, Magdalene Walleslous, surties."
      C. "June 1st 1740, Maria Catharina, Daughter of Peter Young and Ann Eva his wife. Joseph Walleslous, Margaret Snock, Barbara Toetendorf."
      D. "October 24th 1742, Eve, Daughter of Peter Young. John Cleyn, Saets, Surties."
      E. "March ye 4th 1742, Martin, Son of John Cleyn. Cornelius Bowen, Peter Young, Mary Boen."
      F. "February 3, 1743/4, Helena, Daughter of Peter Young. Helena Wallslous, Helena, surties."
      G. "July 15th 1739, Barent, son of Johan Peter Frederick and Anna Phronica his wife. Barent Vroman Jr., Engeltie Hansen, Surties."
      H. "June 21, 1741, Ann Magdalene, Daughter of Johan Peter Frederick and Anna Phronia his wife. Joseph Walleshous and his wife."
      I. "June 5th, 1743, Hans Jacob, Son of Johan Peter Frederick. Hans Huber, Jacob Naef and his wife."

      DEATH:
      1. Death date is based on will date of 24 May 1821 at Johnstown, Fulton, New York.

      2. Montgomery County, NY, Archives 19 Sep 2007 visit: Mentioned in the book "Abstracts of Wills of Montgomery County, 1787 - 1831": "Frederich[k], Jacob, of Johnstown, will dated 1-13-1815; probated 5-24-1821. Mentions, - sons Lodowick and Phillip; grandson Jacob Goodemoot. Administratrix appointed, Margaret Frederick. Witnesses: Benjamin Rowland, David I. and Elizabeth Conn."

      SOURCES_MISC:
      1. Per family group sheet archive record submitted by Mary J. King Timothy, 383 E2 N, Kaysville, Utah (4ggniece). She references: "Ref. Dutch Ch. Fonda F. N.Y. F.4b pp. 42-62; Queen's chapel Ft. Hunter N.Y. F. F.9 p. 23; Beers Hist. p. 113".