| Notes |
- RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. There appears to be a divergence in opinion between Lynn Parham, editor of the Mangrum Journal, and John Palmer, author of the Mangum book, both quoted below. Even though it appears both are using the same original records, Lynn suggests that the Olive Savidge who married John Mangum II was a granddaughter of Robert Savidge thru his son Lovelis and that there were actually two Olive Savidges: an aunt (sister to Lovelis) and a niece (dau. to Lovelis). John, on the other hand, suggests that there was only one Olive and she was the dau. of Robert and sister to Lovelis. My thinking is with Lynn on this for the following reasons:
a. Lovelis Savidge in his will definitively names Olive as his daughter and married to Mangum. This leaves no doubt as to the relationships. Having not yet seen Robert Savidge's will, I assume it is clear that his relationship with the other Olive is as a father to a daughter.
b. If John Mangum II was born ca. 1697 or after as currently theorized, then Olive would have probably been born about the same time or later. In Robert Savidge's will of March 1697/8 [Gregorian Calendar], he names three children. From their will probates, his two sons have subsequent death dates of 1713-1718 and 1728-1729, which is approximately an average generational shift. Judging from his sons' deaths, one would also assume that Robert was in the normal later years making a recently born infant Olive improbable. It seems unlikely that Olive would be a minor or even an infant when her brothers appear not to be. Having not yet seen Robert's will, I will hazard a guess that it does not indicate Olive or the brothers as minors. There appears to be no extant record of an appointed guardian or Orphan's Court for the minor children of the original Robert.
2. The book "The Mangums of Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas, and Utah and Adjoining States," by John T. Palmer, Santa Rosa, 1992, FHL film 1697868, pp. 4-5, issue of John Mangum and Frances Mangum, first Child: " John Mangum, b. ca. 1703, Albemarle Parish, Surry Co., VA, m. Olive Savidge, dau. of Robert Savage. His [John Mangum's] estate was administered 20 Dec 1744, Surry Co., VA, by Olive Savidge Mangum, m. bef. 6 Oct 1728 who was godparent to four children born in the Albemarle Parish of Surry Co., VA. Parents of these godChildren included William Huler (Hulen) and wife, Selah; Robert Purrier (Pryor/Prior) and wife Frances; and Arthur Richardson and wife, Mary. [Kerry's note: see note number 1 above for my comment and belief that John Palmer is in error believing Olive Savidge who married John Mangum was the daughter of Robert Savidge and not Lovelis Savidge.]
3. Website of Lynn Parham at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lynn.parham/savidge.htm: "We believe John Mangum Jr., son of the immigrant John Mangum, married Olive Savidge. She was apparently a daughter of Robert Savidge of Surry Co., Virginia. In his will of 1697 he names his sons Charles and Lovelis and his daughter Olive. The 1728 will of Loveless Savidge mentions an Olive Manggum. John Mangum Jr. died in 1744 and his estate was administered by Olive Mangum. Olive was a godparent to several children in the Albemarle Parish, Surry Co., Virginia after John's death. We suspect those children were Olive & John's grandchildren. We also suspect that another child was John Mangum (John III) who moved to Mecklenburg Co., Virginia. His son, John, was a Revolutionary War patriot. His descendants were the subject of a book by Mrs. Delta Ivy Mangum Hale." [Kerry's note: Lynn appears to have later changed his mind from the above quote as to Olive Mangum being the daughter Robert Savidge - see the next note below.]
4. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 49, July 2002, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 21-28, article includes scanned images of the actual documents. The editor notes: "The will of Lovelis Savidge (and inventory) [involves]... Mangums in early Virginia. In this case we believe that John Mangum Jr., son of the immigrant, married into this Savidge family, probably marrying Olive Savidge who is mentioned in the will as Ollife Manggam. The will image is very poor in some sections, and the handwriting is difficult to read. My transcription probably has many errors, so be careful in using this information... (EDITOR'S Comments ON The Will/INVENTORY of LOVELIS SAVIDGE: On 17 March 1697/8 the will of Robert Savidge named sons Charles and Lovelis and dau. Olive. (Probated 3 May 1698. Surry County Bk 5, page 155.). We believe the Lovelis Savidge of the will [below] is that son of Robert mentioned in his 1697/8 will. Lovelis probably named a daughter after his aunt Olive Savidge, and this daughter married John Mangum (Jr.), son of the immigrant John Mangum. There are several records which show that this John Mangum (Jr.) was married to Olive and some of these will be presented in later parts of this series. Note that the clerk who transcribed the will spelled the surname "Savidg", omitting the "e". Olive is spelled "Ollife Manggam." It is unknown if this official record of the will is a faithfully copy of the original will. Of course, Lovelis could not write his name and he had a quite peculiar signature mark like an upside down "L". The spelling in the will was quite poor, even more so than is usual in the antiquated writings of the time. Note also that a James Bennit witnessed the will. There still seemed to be a tie between these "second generation" Mangums and Bennetts. It is unfortunate that I could not decipher the parish where Lovelis resided. If you can make it out from the image supplied, or if you by chance run across a better copy of the will in your Virginia microfilm searches, please let me know. Also, in my copies, the first part of the second page was totally black. That part of the will does not seem to contain anything significant, but if anyone sees the original, or a better microfilm copy, please make a note of it, and if possible a copy for me. Finally, I could not decipher that 'inserted' word after "..of Lovelis Savage..." from beginning of second line of the inventory. Maybe you can?). [Note also that the will is confusing in that is seems to list two separate sons, Lovelis and Lovlis, each receiving a feather bed - I believe this to be a slip of the pen and they are one and the same.]:
Will of LOVELIS SAVIDGE, dated 6 Oct. 1728. Surry Co., VA. Probated 21 May 1729. Surry County Wills, Deeds, Etc, Book 7, pg. 943. (1715-1730). Inventory returned to court 20 Aug. 1729, pg. 965: 'In the name of God Amen I Lovelis Savidg living in ____ Creek Parish in the County of Surry Being Week and Sickly in body but of Perfect mind and memory thanks be to God theirfore and calling to Mind of the mortality of my body and knowing that it is ordained for all Persons once to dye theirfore I appoint and ordain this to be my last Will & Testament that ___ found thereto be buried in a desent like manner according to ye discretion of my Executer as hereafter named and for all the worly Estate that God hath ___ me with in this Life I doo heare Devise and dispose of the same in this following manner and form. I give and bequeth unto my Son Lovelis Savidg all my Land after his Mother's debts and one feather Bead. I give and bequef unto my Daughter Ollife Manggam and I give and bequef to my Son Lovlis Savidg one feather bead. I give One puter dish to my Son Robert Savidg and One puter dish. I give to my grandson Charls Savidg and I leand all the rest of my Estate in ____ unto my Wife During her life and after her desese to return to my Son Lovelis Savidg & I depose that my Estate Shall not be Praised and I doo hereon Apoint my Son Lovlis Savidg my only & Soully Execter of this my Last Will and Testament and I doo hereby disallow revok and disannul all former Wills maite by me maid before this time ____ and confairming this to be my Last Will and Testament IN WITNESS whereof heir I have Set my hand and Seal the 6 day October in 1728 - - Sined Sealed Published Prenounced and declared by me Lovlis Savidg my Last Will & Testament. John Coker, Anthony Evans, James (his mark "O") Bennit.
At a court for Surry County May the 21st 1729 The within mentioned Will of Lovlis Savidge Deceid was Presented in Court by Lovlis Savidge Executor thereof who made Oath thereto & gave bond with the Security according to Law and being proved by the oaths of John Coker, Anthony Evans, Witness thereto the same is ordered to be recorded and is Recorded by Jr Allen CC
INVENTORY of Estate of LOVELIS SAVIDGE, (Surry County, VA Wills, Deeds, Etc., 1715-1730, Book 7, pg. 965-20 Aug. 1729): 'A true and perfect Inventory of all and Singular of goods and Chatles of Lovelis Savage [___] Deseast taken this 19th day of August Ano Dom 1729. To 4 head of Cattel, To 7 head of hogs, To 3 feather beads and furniture, To _ Puter dishes & falginas?, To 16 Puter Plates, 1 qt ___, To 1 Puter bason, 1 Spitts Iron, To 1 Iron Pott, 1 Iron Kittle, To 1 gride Iron, 1 Iron Pot Rake, To 1 frying pan, 1 Pr Stilards?, To 1 ___ of Weages?, 1 Pesel, To 3 fixed gunes, 1 old house, To 1 ond Maier's Sadle & Bridle, To 2 Old Chests, 2 Old trunks, To 2 Honey Jugs, 1 Spice Morter, To 1 Pessel, 2 brass Candlesticks, To 1 brass Sadle, 1 brass Shimer, To 1 Woolen & Spining Wheale, To 1 Pr of Cotton Cards, 2 Cheans, To 1 brass Skilet of 2 qts, To 1 Pr of fire Tongs, 1 Pr Flesh forkes, To 2 Wather Pailes - - - The above Inventy Taken and Returned by me - Lovelis (his mark "é") Savage Juneor Exexq.
The Court held for Surry County, August the 20th 1729. The above mentioned Inventory of ye Estate of Lovelis Savidge deceed this presented by Lovelis Savidge Executr of the Last Will & Testament of the Said deceed was Ordered to be Recorded and (the rest of the text was cut off from the copy)."
5. Mangum Family Bulletin, REPRINT 1987 (as Issue Number 4), [Originally issued as Volume 1, Number 4], Issue Number 4, December 1969, edited by James Lynn Parham, pp. 49-50: "By 1728(15) we again have a John Mangum in Surry County. On this date a John Mangum witnessed the Will of John Spratley. It was theorized above that this John was a son of the earlier John. Deeds in 1742 and 1743(20,21) indicate that this John's wife was named Olive. With this in mind, some earlier records concerning the Savidge family assume some importance. In 1697(7) the Will of Robert Savidge names sons Charles and Lovelis and daughter Olive. In 1713(11) the Will of Charles Savidge mentions sons Robert and Lovelis. In 1728(16) the Will of Lovelis Savidge mentions Olive Manggum. It is at least possible that Olive, John's wife, was named Olive Savidge before her marriage and she may have been the daughter of Robert Savidge. However, additional clarification is needed here. In 1744(22) the estate of John Mangum deceased was signed by Olive Mangum as administrator. In 1747(23) Olive witnessed the Will of John Richardson and between 1752 and 1754(24,25,26,27) an Olive Mangum was a godparent to four children born in the Albemarle Parish of Surry County.
References [in text above]:
(7) 17 March 1697/8 Will of Robert Savidge names sons Charles and Lovelis and dau. Olive. Probated 3 May 1698. Surry County Bk 5, page 155.
(11) 17 March 1713 Will of Charles Savidge names sons Robert and Lovelis. Proved 17 Sept. 1718, Surry Co., Bk 7, page 148.
(15) 28 April 1728 John Mangum witnessed the Will of John Spratley, Will recorded 16 Oct. 1728, Surry Co., Bk 7, page 867.
(16) 6 Oct. 1728 Will of Lovelis Savidge names Olive Manggam as a legatee. Surry Co. Bk 7, page 943, Will proved 21 May 1729.
(20) 16 Feb. 1742 Indenture involving John Mangum and Olive his wife on one part and Zachariah Madere on the other part. Surry Order Bk. 1741-1744, page 87.
(21) 16 Feb. 1743 Indenture involving John Mangum and Sarah his wife and Zachariah Madere. Further on in the deed it is John Mangum and Olive his wife. John and Olive sell 100 acres of land lying on Pidgeon Swamp in Surry County. Surry County Deed Bk 4, page 80.
(22) Aug. 1744 The inventory of the estate of John Mangum was ordered. Inventory signed by Olive Mangum as administrator. Surry Co., Wills, Etc. 1738-1754, page 436.
(23) 20 Oct. 1747 Olive Mangum witnessed the Will of John Richardson. Wit. Samuel Maget. No date, but recorded 20 Oct. 1747. Surry Co., VA. Will Bk 9, p. 561.
(24) 26 Jan. 1752 Olave Mangum is godparent at christening of son of Arthur Richardson. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1, (issue 1) page 4.
(25) 14 June 1752 Olave Mangum is godparent at christening of daughter of Wm. Hulen. See MFB, Vol. 1, No. 1 (issue 1) page 4.
(26) 19 Aug. 1753 Olave Mangum is godparent at christening of daughter of Robt. Purrier. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1 (issue 1) page 4.
(27) 19 May 1754 Olave Mangum is godparent at christening of son of Wm. Huler. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1 (issue 10) page 4."
6. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 52, July 2003, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 24-26, [article includes scanned images of the actual documents]. The editor notes: "The translations of the Old English below were done quickly and the main effort was to try to retain the gist of the information rather than spending a lot of time trying to decipher every word.
"COURT Records RELATING To Will of JohnRichardSON, (Surry County, Virginia Orders 1744-1749, page 387. Surry Court 20 Oct. 1747): 'The last will & Testament of John Richardson dec'ed was presented in Court by Elizabeth Richardson, widow & relict of the said John & Executrix therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and the same was proved by the Oaths of Samuel Maget & Olive Mangum the witnesses thereto and by the Court order'd to be recorded and on the motion of the said Executor a Certificate is granted her for obtaining a Probate thereof in due Form. Order'd that Samuel Maget, Benjamin Ellis, Thomas Alsobrooke, James Nicolson or any three of them being first Sworn before Robert Gray gentl? Do appraised in current money the ^slaves & Personal Estate of John Richardson dec'ed and returned the appraisement to the next Court.' (EDITOR'S NOTE: We believe that one of John & Olive Mangum's daughters married into the Richardson family. On 26 Jan. 1752, Zilpah, son of Arthur Richardson and wife Mary was christened with Olave Mangum as one of the godparents in the Albemarle Parish, Surry Co., VA.)"
7. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 50, Oct 2002, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 16-20: "This Part 8 [of a series in the Journal] of the old Virginia records delves more deeply into the records of the second John Mangum of Virginia. We believe he was the son of the immigrant John Mangum but as usual we have no definite proof, just good circumstantial evidence. The first record is the petition of Olive Mangum his widow to obtain letters of administration. The second is the actual inventory. The third is the will of John Spratley in which John Mangum and a Sarah Savidge are witnesses. Olive Mangum's maiden name was Savidge, as we believe, and Sarah Savidge is probably a relative of Olive."
"COURT ORDER FOR ADMINISTRATION of John Mangum'S Estate, (Surry County, Virginia Order Book 1741-1744, page 234 and 235. Court date 18 July 1744): 'On the petition of Olive Mangum Widow who made oath according to Law Certificate is granted her for obtaining Letters of Administration of the Estate of her Husband John Mangum decd giving Security on which she together with James [Nickolson] and William Mangum her Securities entered into and Acknowledged their Bond for her due Administration of the said Decedents Estate.
Ordered That Samuel Maget, Robert Judkins, Bartholomew Figures and William Owen or any three of them being - being first Sworn before Howell Biggs Gent Do appraise in Current Money the Slaves and personal Estate of John Mangum Deced and return the appraisement to the next Court.'"
"Estate of John Mangum, (Surry County, Virginia Wills, Etc., 1738-1754, Book 9, page 486) [Image on file with Kerry's photo collection. The following was transcribed by myself as well: 'In obedience to the Order of Court held for Surry County this [blank] day of August 1744, we the subscribers being firs sworn by Mr. James Chappel have valued the estate of John Mangum Deced as followeth:
7 head of Cattle
6 Shoates
2 Sows & Eleven Piggs
(Horse?)
3 beds and furniture
A parcel of pewter
A parcel of Shoemaker's tools & casts(?)
1 ??? Sword and Catooch box
2 spits 1 saw and file
A parcel of Carpenter's tools
A parcel of old Iron and Planters Tools
A parcel of Leather Stilliard & bell
1 Wheel and cards & 1 Linen (S.?) Wheel
A parcel of lumber
Books & Earthen Ware
1 Saddle & Saddle Cloath
4 potts 1 kettle & frying pan
1 Chest & 1 Table & a parcel of flax
1 pasnet(?) & 1 Sun Dial one Sow and Seven Shoates
2 Cyder Casks 1 Jugg 1 Grindstone
[Signed] Olive Mangum Administx. At a Court held for Surry County the 20th Day of December 1744, the within inventory and appraisement of the Estate of John Mangum Deced was returned and by the Court ordered to be recorded. Teste. Aug. Claiborne, Clk.']"
"Will of JohnSPRATLEY, Surry County, Virginia WB7, 1715-39 p 867. Image from microfilm. Surry County, Virginia WB7, 1715-39 p 867. Text taken from a Rootsweb Internet posting by Sue Perrault. See <http://cgi.rootsweb.com>:
'I give all my Estate that I have in Jame Citty County be it in what (?) Quality whatsoever to be Equally divided between my three Grand children Wm, Jno and Eliza SPRATLEY and Mary SAUNDERS Daughter of Mr Robert SAUNDERS of Wmsburgh only excepting two cows and calves that I give to Mary the wife of Thomas HUSE and my young horse that I give to my Wife.
I give and bequeath to my grandson John SPRATLEY all the land that I have in Surry County after the death of my wife to him and his heirs for ever and if he shall live to the age of eighteen years he shall have liberty to take into his possession one of my plantations which my wife pleases to lett him have.
I give to my granson John SPRATTLEY my Negro Woman Sarah and her increase to him and his heirs forever after the death of my wife. I give forty pounds current money and order my Exs. to buy two young negroes with that money and the said Negroes to remain in the possession of my Exs. untill my Granson John SPRATTLEY comes to age and if the said Negroes be then living to be delivered to my (chief?) Granson John SPRATTLEY and all the money that can be made of the stock that will be raised on that plantation whereon Wm Proctor now Liveth. Desire it may be in the hands of his Mother and to be disposed of in Schooling of my said Granson John SPRATTLEY. I give to my Grandaughter Elizabeth SPRATTLEY a Negro woman named Bess to her and her heirs after the death of my wife and her increase for ever. I give the labour of all my Negroes to my Loveing wife Phillis during her natural live. I give to my daughter in law Mary(COCKE)SPRATTLEY five pounds. I give to Thomas Huse forty shill. to buy him a ring. I give to my kinsman Mr. Robt SAUNDERS forty shillings. I give to my Granson John SPRATTLEY my silver headed cane. I give to my daughter in law Mary SPRATTLEY fourteen pound that her husband John SPRATTLEY had (?) what I am indebted to Maj. BLAIR. She must pay out of the aforesaid debt. I desire that my three Negroes Robin Cuffey and Nan be sold after the death of my wife for money and that money to be equally divided between my two Gransons Wm and John SPRATTLEY. I give to my Loveing wife Phillis all the rest of my estate be it in what nature of quallity what so ever after my Just debts are paid dureing her natural life. I do appoint my loving wife Phillis and Nicho. MAGET my joynt Exo and Executor of this my last will revoking all former wills unto which I have hereunto sett my hand and seale this 28th day of Aprill 1728. Wit: John MANGGUM, Sarah SAVIDGE, Thos. Francis Probated Oct. 16, 1728 The inventory of the Estate of John SPRATLEY, taken by Phillis SPRATLEY and Nicholas MAGET mentions "Cash in the house L5. 40, Ditto in England L60. A parcel old lumber at the plantation of John Spratley Jun. decd in James Citty County." taken December 18, 1728.'"
EDITOR'S Comments:
Olive Mangum, widow of John Mangum deceased, petitioned the court and obtained letters of Administration for John's estate on 18 July 1744. This record leaves no doubt that Olive was indeed wife of John Mangum. It is very interesting that one of the securities for Olive is William Mangum. It has long been assumed (but not proven) that the William Mangum who migrated to North Carolina in 1748 was son of John Mangum the immigrant. If this is the same William Mangum, which seems very likely, then we assume that William was a brother of the deceased John Mangum (Jr.?).
John Mangum's estate was appraised by Samuel Magit, Robert Jurkins and Bartholomew Figures in August of 1744. The actual day is not recorded. The Administrator (Adminisx) was Olive Mangum. The inventory was returned to court 20 December of 1744. The total value was 25 pounds, 12 shillings and 12? pence. Present value of an English Pound is about $1.65. In 1744 a pound was worth considerably more, but it is difficult to translate currency value from that era into modern currency. Although the court order was to appraise the slaves and estate of John Mangum, there does not appear to be any slaves listed in the appraisement.
We still have not proven that this John Mangum and the North Carolina migrant William Mangum were truly sons of the immigrant John Mangum and wife Frances. However, that seems to be the most likely theory at present. We learn from other records (published in the previous Journal) that Lovelis Savidge had a daughter named Olive Mangum (Ollife Manggam), and Lovelis also had a sister named Olive. The preponderance of evidence here is that this Olive Mangum of the 1744 inventory of estate of John Mangum was Olive, daughter of Lovelis Savidge.
The John Mangum (Manggum) who witnessed the will of John Spratley is obviously the younger John Mangum who married Olive Savidge. Sarah Savidge is also a witness. We don't know her relationship to John, but she was probably kin to him through his wife Olive Savidge. We don't know the date of John's marriage to Olive, so this Sarah Savidge who signed the 1728 will may be a future in-law instead of a present one. We also do not know the relationship of John Mangum and the Spratley family, but I suspect there is some intermarriage between the Savidges and the Spratleys.
The main value of this Spratley will lies in the signature of John Mangum. He actually signs the will as 'John C. Manggum'. Unless the clerk who recorded the will made a mistake, John actually signed his name rather than making the "C" as his mark. The inference is that John was literate. His "father" John Mangum the immigrant, being illiterate, could only make a mark for his signature... [Note in the next issue of the Journal, the editor corrects his comment regarding the "C." as a middle initial - apparently the C was only a flourish at the end of John typical of several other places in the same document.]
Do not consider the signature of John Manggum to be his actual handwriting. The entire will, including all signatures, are in the same handwriting, meaning that the handwriting is that of the clerk who recorded the will, not the individual signers."
8. Some clarification of dates of county formations is important. Many people confuse the correct location in dealing with the original colonial ancestors of this part of Virginia.
James City County was one of eight original shires designated in 1634. At that time it extended toward the southwest between Charles City and Isle of Wight (then Warrosquyoake), being terminated later by the boundary with North Carolina. South of the James River it was separated from Isle of Wight county by Lawne's Creek and from Charles City County (later Prince George County) by Upper Chippokes Creek. James City was made the capitol of the colony in 1639 by an Act of the Assembly. James City was the original Jamestown founded in 1607, America's earliest English settlement.
The part of James City County that became Surry County was inhabited by the Quiyoughcohanocks, allies of the Algonquian Powhatan Confederacy, when Jamestown settlers visited in 1607. Early settlers reported that they were entertained very graciously during their first visit. John Rolfe's marriage to Pocohontas in 1614 helped to keep peace between Indians and English settlers for a time. Pocohontas died in England in 1616, however, and by 1622 the Powhatans had decided to rid their lands of the English settlers. On Good Friday, 11 April 1622, Indians living in English settlements all over the small colony rose up and attacked their English hosts, murdering and mutilating them in their homes. At Pace's Pains on the south shore of the James, one Indian, a Christian named Chanco, refused to murder Richard Pace, warning him of the impending massacre instead. Three hundred and forty-seven English people were killed then. A list made the following February showed 1,277 people left alive in the colony.
Richard Pace was only one of the settlers on the south shore of James River. In May 1625 The Virginia Company of London listed sixteen settlers in the area that became Surry County. The Virginia Company's development of Virginia did not meet the expectations of the company stockholders or the English government. Sir Francis Wyatt, the last governor under the Virginia Company, became the first crown appointed governor 24 May 1624.
The crown honored patents issued by the Company and granted more lands to encourage settlement. Individuals could acquire one headright by paying the transportation cost of one person into the colony. One headright could be exchanged for fifty acres of Virginia land. Soon headrights were being sold, the system became corrupted, and in 1705 the General Assembly attempted to reform it. The 1705 act explicitly stated that individuals could not claim an individual headright more than once or claim headrights for sailors, and land claimants were required to submit sworn statements verifying their headright lists in county courts.
By 1640 James City County's population south of James River was sufficient to support a new parish, and Lawne's Creek Parish was established. Lawne's Creek itself was the dividing line between James City County and the later Surry County from the original Isle of Wight County. John Mangum, the original immigrant, had land strattling Lawne's Creek in both Surry and Isle of Wight Counties. Southwark Parish was separated from James City Parish in 1647. County court records begin with 1652, when Surry was formed from the part of James City County that lay southwest of James River. The south end of Surry County eventually is known as Albemarle Parish within in Surry County. From 1738 the only Anglican parish in the Sussex County area was Albemarle. Soon afterward Arthur Allen built his Jacobean brick house, now known as Bacon's Castle because it was occupied as a fort or "castle" during Bacon's Rebellion in 1676.
Reports to the Bishop of London by the ministers of Lawne's Creek and Southwark parishes in the year 1724 were recorded by Bishop Meade. They were not prosperous parishes. In 1738 Albemarle Parish was created from those parts of Lawne's Creek and Southwark parishes that lay southwest of Blackwater River. The remaining parts of Lawne's Creek and Southwark were united into Southwark Parish. The entire area of Albemarle Parish was incorporated into Sussex County when it was formed from the southwestern end of Surry County in 1754.
Sussex County was formed in 1753 from the part of Surry County that was south of the Blackwater River. "Whereas many inconveniencies" attended the inhabitants of the county of Surry, "by reason of the large extent thereof," the General Assembly enacted a law forming Sussex County from the southwestern part of Surry in November 1753. The boundaries of Sussex County followed those of Albemarle Parish established in 1738. Part of Surry County had been added to Brunswick County in 1732. Thus the parish and county were bounded by Surry County on the northeast, by Southampton County on the southeast, Prince George County on the northwest and Brunswick County on the southwest. Brunswick County was divided by an Act of the Assembly in October 1780, forming Greensville County, which now borders Sussex on the southwest. Sussex, Virginia, is the county seat of Sussex County. The Dillard House, built in 1802, was the repository of the clerk's records until the courthouse was built. The county is named for Sussex County in England.
In some early records of Surry County before Sussex was formed, we see mention of Upper and Lower Parishes of Surry County. I assume the Lower Parish is what was eventually called Albemarle Parish of Surry, then Sussex County. We know that the Mangums had land transactions in Pigeon Creek in the 1740s and Hornet Swamp in the 1760s. Both of these areas were south of the Blackwater River in what was Albemarle Parish of Surry or Sussex County depending on the County formation dates as explained above. Some of the Mangums eventually end up in Lunenburg County, Virginia, which in turns splits the southern part of its Cumberland Parish off in 1761 to form St. James Parish, which in turn and in entirety becomes Mecklenburg County in 1764-65. Brunswick County separates Sussex County from Mecklenburg County to the west. These counties are just above the state line from North Carolina. Some people erroneously put down Albemarle County which is a county in Northern Virginia in no way associated with our family of these Southern Virginia locations.
9. Issue No. 1 "Mangum Family Bulletin," March 1969:
"Register of Albemarle Parish, Surry & Sussex Counties, Virginia 1739-1778." Gertrude R. B. Richards, ed. Printed by the University Press of Virginia
1. Arthur, son of Wm. Mangum and wife Mary; born May 2, c. 1741.
2. John, son of Reuben Cook and wife Mary; born Jan 2, c. Feb. 26, 1758; gdpts John Weathers, Edward Weaver Jr., Agnes Mangum.
3. Elizabeth, dau. of Burrell Green and wife Lucy; born May 26, c. Aug 20, 1769; gdpts James Mangum Jr., Betty Mangum, Ann Avery.
4. Lucy, dau. of Edward Jones and wife Elisa; born Jul 23, c. Aug. 29, 1762; gdpts John Robinson, Sarah Jones, Elisa Mangum.
5. Sarah, dau. of Samuel Mangum and wife Elisa; born Jul 1, c. Aug. 20, 1769; gdpts Thos. Smith, Mary Camp, Selah Smith.
6. Henry, son of Wm. Mangum and wife Mary; born Jan. 24, c. Mar. 28, 1773; gdpts Peter Randall, Seth Williams, Lucy Green.
7. Sarah, dau. of Wm. Mangum and wife Mary; born Oct. 14, 1743, c. Apr. 29, 1744; gdpts James Mangum, Priscilla Rogers, Mary Mangum.
8. Joseph, son of William Rogers and wife Frances; born Nov. 4, 1743, c. Mar. 18, 1743/4; gdpts Joseph Rogers, Jonatan(?) Ellis, Selah Mangum.
9. James, son of James Mangum and wife Mary; born Jan. 22, 1743/4, c. Apr. 29, 1744; gdpts Wm. Mangum, Samuel Mangum, Mary Mangum.
10. James, son of Wm. Mangum and wife Mary; born Jun. 2, c. 1734.
11. Thomas, son of Isham Green and wife Patty; born Jan. 8, c. Apr. 3, 1768; gdpts James Mangum, Joel Wilkason, Bathis Burrow.
12. John, son of Thos. Gibbons and wife Anne; born Mar 26, c. May 9, 1767; gdpts Lourence? Gibbons, James Mangum, Elisa Gibbons.
13. William, son of James Mangum and wife Mary; born Jan. 4, 1746-1747, c. Apr. 12, 1747; gdpts Wm. Rogers, Richd Woodroffe Jr, Mary Rogers.
14. Micajah, son of Natl Clanton and wife Mary; born Jul. 21, c. Aug. 28, 1748; gdpts Henry Pritchet, James Mangum, Tahpenes Nusom.
15. Rebakah, dau. of John Mangum and wife Lydia; born Feb. 14, c. Apr. 11, 1762; gdpts James Mangum Jr., Lucy Mangum, Mary Richason.
16. Eppes, son of Burrell Brown and wife Amy; born Dec. 17, 1766, c. Feb. 8, 1767; gdpts Francis Eppes, James Mangum Jr., Lucy Freeman.
17. Elizabeth, dau. of John Hobbs and wife Elisa; born Jul. 19, c. Aug. 29, 1767; gdpts John Mangum, James Mangum Jr., Sarah Battle, Susanna Harrison?
18. James, son of James Cain Jr. and wife Lucratia; born Feb. 28, c. May 16, 1756; gdpts John Mangum, Nathan Freeman, Martha Freeman.
19. Claiborne, son of Peter Cain and wife Martha; born Sept. 24, c. Dec. 20, 1761; gdpts James Cain Jr., John Mangum, Angelica Cain.
20. Lucy, dau. of John Mangum and wife Mary; born Nov. 30, 1758, c. Mar. 31, 1759.
21. William, son of John Mangum and wife Mary; born Nov. 12, 1756, c. Jan. 16, 1757; gdpts James Milner, John Baily, Anne Pare.
22. Jesse, son of David Holloway and wife Frances; born Jul. 20, 1750, c. Jan. 20, 1750/1; gdpts Nathl Johnson, John Mangum, Sarah James.
23. John, son of James Bane and wife Eliza; born Jan. 1, c. Feb. 23, 1752; gdpts Richard Andrews, John Mangum, Susanna Bane.
24. Suky, dau. of John Husky and wife Faith; born Aug. 30, c. Oct. 26, 1760; gdpts John Mangum, Lucy Cain, Winny Robertson.
25. Sarah, dau. of John Mangum and wife Mary; born Nov. 6, 1760, d. Apr. 26, 1761; gdpts John Roland, Sarah Andrews, Agnes Carter.
26. Lucy, dau. of James Mangum and wife Mary. Born Jul. 26, 1741, c. Jan. 31, 1741/2.
27. William, son of Wm Mangum and wife Mary; born May 16, 1736.
28. Betty, dau. of Benja. Wellborn and wife Betty; born Feb. 29, c. Jun. 1, 1772; gdpts John Malone, Winnefred Robinson, Mary Mangum.
29. ()hn, son of Wm. Huler and wife Selah; born Apr. 6, c. May 19, 1754; gdpts Thos Atkinson, Olave Mangum, Lydia Dinkens.
30. Elizabeth, dau. of Robt. Purrier and wife Frances; born Jun. 10, c. Aug. 19, 1753; gdpts Wm. Carril, Wm. Waller, Olave Mangum
31. Zilpah, son of Arthur Richardson and wife Mary; born Dec. 10, 1751, c. Jan. 26, 1752; gdpts Robert Priorm, Mary Waller, Olave Mangum
32. Selah, dau. of Wm. Hulen and wife Selah; born May 10, c. Jun. 14, 1752; gdpts Robert Pryor, Olave Mangum, Frances Pryor.
Editor's Note: c. is abbreviation for christened; gdpts for godparents. Godparents are sometimes aunts and uncles of the children being christened.
10. The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal; Issue Number 60, October 2007, by James L. Parham: "Surry County, Virginia COURT Records . (These microfilms were rented from the Salt Lake City library via the local Mormon Church here in Huntsville, AL. I searched these microfilm a few years ago, and just stumbled on them again. They contain some interesting and useful information about the Mangums in Surry County, VA before the 1748 migration into N.C. I took these notes in haste, so the transcription will not be 100% accurate.)
A. Surry County Order book, 1691-1713 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm #0034129):
Page 132 - John Mangham having been [summoned] on evidence on behalf of Arthur Davis against Robt Blake and attended two days it is ordered that the said Davis pay him for the [said] according to law with cash at Exam. - Surry Court, Southwark May 28, 1695
Page 175 - Richd Bennett having brought an action to this court agt. Abraham Morris and failing to appear to prosecute, this suit is dismisst.
Page 179 - John Mangham having caused Tho Durham to be arrested to this court not having entered a petition the [suit] is therefore [dismisst?] Court May 4, 1697
Page 195 - Upon the request of George Morrell a hafame?? Ionnigauht?? of one hundred acres of land made for the said Morrell by John Mangham draftd the twenty third day of March 1695/6 is admitted for record. 7 March 1698/9.
PAGES with Bennett Records (Not Transcribed): 117, 112, 109, 91 (96), 168, 175, 177, 199, 201, 235, 276
B. Surry County Order book, 1713-1718 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm #0034129): No Mangums - Very short. Bennett Information on pages 91 & 47.
C. There Are No Extant Records Between 1718 and 1741
D. Surry County Order book, 1741-1744 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm #0034129):
Page 87 - Indenture of lease and release between John Mangum and Olive his wife of the one part and Zachariah Madere of the other part acknowledged by these John & Olive and by the court ordered to be recorded. Pervious to which the sd Olive was privily examined & as the law directss.
E. 16 Feby 1742 [1742/43] Surry Court. Page 184 - Jury of grand, inquest for the body of this county. William Mangum one of the jurors. Returns: John Edmunds for not going to Church; Judith Pitts for having two bastard children at a birth; Mary Green for having a bastard Child; Others.
F. Surry Court session 16 Nov. 1743:
Page 234 - On the petition of Olive Mangum widow who made oath according to same, certificate is granted her for the obtaining letters of administration of the estate of her husband John Mangum dec'ed giving security on which she together with James Nicholson and William Mangum her securities enters & acknowledges their bond for her due administration of the said decedants estate. Surry Court 18 July 1744.
Page 234 - Ordered that Samuel Maget, Robert Judkins, Bartholomew Figures & William Queen or any three of them being -[Continued on page 235]
Page 235 - being first sworn before Howell Briggs gent. Do appraise in current money the slaves and personal estate of John Mangum Dec'ed and return the appraisement to the next court.
G. Surry County Order book, 1744-1749 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm # 0034130):
Page 13 - An inventory of appraisment of the estate of John Mangum dec'ed was returned and by the court ordered to be recorded. - Surry Court 20th Dec. 1744.
Page 24 - Thomas Jones (Plt) against Samuel Mangum (Deft) - In debt.
This day came as well the PLT by his attorney as the deft in his proper person and the Sd Defts saith That he cannot gainsay the plts Action nor but that he Oweath the Debt in the Declaration mentioned amountings to Eight pounds, Six shillings. Therefore it is Considered that the plt Recover the same against the Sd Deft. together with his Costs by him in this behalf Eexpended, And the Sd deft. In mercy &c - Surry Court 20 Feb. 1744 [1744/45].
Page 58 - On the petition of James Nicholson and William Mangum thereby sitting forth that they these petitioners became bound to this court as securities of Olive Mangum for the due administration of the estate of John Mangum deced and apprehending themselves to be in imminent danger of being thereby damnified prayed relief in the premisses whereupon after hearing as well that these petitioners as these alive. It is ordered and decreed that these alive deliver up this estate to the petitioners and give them good and sufficient security to indemnify them in the premisses. 19 June 1745.
Page 70 - This day came the Plt by his attorney and thereupon came also a jury... Bartholemew Figures, John Jeby??, Thomas Washington, William Mangum, William Gillam, Charles Lucas, Benjamin Jordon, John Nicholson, William Owen, Henry Collier, Thomas Gray, Assault and battery John Ellis Plt versus Amos Newson Def. 18 July 1745.
Page 266 - J Adams?? Plt vs Samuel Mangum Carpenter Def. In Debt, 18 Feb. 1746 [1746/47]. The Deft. Being delivered? Not an inhabitant of this county, it is ordered that this suit abate. [Editor's note: Where was Samuel in 1747*? Had he already gone to N.C., or just to a neighboring county to escape his creditors? *Note that in the old dating system the New Year started in March, not January. So, 18 Feb. 1746/47 is 18 Feb. 1747 in our dating system.]
Page 313 - Ordered that Augustine Hargrove, Charles Holt, John White, William Mangum, appraise estate of Arthur Sherrod 16 June 1747
Page 323 - Ordered that the Church warden of Albemarle Parish bind out the orphans of John Mangum according to law. Surry Court 16 June 1747. [Editor's note: This was John Mangum Jr., supposed son of the immigrant John Mangum.]
Page 387 - The last will and testament of John Richardson dec'ed was presented in court by Elizabeth Richardson, widow and reliect of the said John and executrix therein named who made oath thereto according to law and the same was proved by the oaths of Samuel Maget and Olive Mangum the witnesses thereto and by the court ordered to be recorded on the motion of the said executrex certificate is granted her for obtaining a probate thereof in due form. Surry Court 20 Oct. 1747.
Page 415 - John Holt PLT against William Mangum and Charles Clany Defts. (In Debt) Discontinued. The Plt. Failing to prosecute. Surry Court 19 Jan. 1747 [1747/48] [19 Jan. 1748]
Page 463 -Attachment obtained by John Ruffin gent. Against estate of William Mangum who have privily removed himself or is absent or that the ordering releif of law cannot be [broed] on him for debt six pounds, - - -teen shillings and two pence. - Surry Court 21 June 1748 [Book says May 1748 Court. It started on page 451, the June 1748 court started page 473] [Editor's Note: William Sr. & family have already gone to N.C.]
Page 475 - The attachment obtained by Thomas [Peilfers] against the estate of William Mangum who hath privately removed himself or absconded that the ordinary proofs of same cannot be served on him for a debt of three pounds eight shillings & five pence for ___ due form ... .attach all the effects of same. Surry Court 21 June 1748 [MDCCXLVIII]
Page 493 - Debt against Thomas Pritlol against estate of William Mangum - Surry Court 16 Aug. 1748.
Page 540 - The petition and summon brought by William Mangum against Joseph Jeffries is dismissed, the Plt failing to prosecute. 18 April 1749.
Page 563 - Nicholas Maggott (or Maggett) by Samuel Maggott his ___ friend Plt. Vs. Ann Maggett Widow Def. Suit concerning a slave. On the Jury were Thomas Gillam, James Mangum, others. 20 June 1749
Page 570 - The attachment obtained by Thomas Prillos? Agst the estate of William Mangum the Pre___?? Continued agst the garnishes is now ordered to be discontinued. 21 June 1749
G. Surry County Order book, 1749-1751, (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm # 0034130):
Page 20 - Dinah, a negroess____?? Belonging to James Mangum was by the court adjudged to be eleven years old. 17 Oct. 1749
Page 106 - James Mangum Plt vs Thomas Eldridge gent. Adm. Of Thomas King decd (Def.) Undefended, damages to be determined by next court. 19 June 1750.
Page 147 - Judith Binns, exec'x of Charles Binns gent. Dec. against John Mangum, ordered that this suit abate by the deft's death. 16 Oct. 1750
Page 155 -Petition and summons brought by Samuel Mangum Plt against Agnis Washington Deft. She is nothing indebted to the Plt, the Plt joins the office? Of the cause is continued till the next court. 16 Oct. 1750.
Page 214 - Samuel Mangum Plt vs Agnes Washington Def. 21 May 1751. By petition for 3of? By account, the parties were heard by their attn. The petition was dismissed. The court valued the building the house mentioned in the petition account to 40 shillings and no more. Def. Had paid 30 shillings.
Page 216 - Upon the motion of Herod Clany a witness for Agnes Washington in the suit of Samuel Mangum, ordered that she pay him 400 and 5 pounds of nett? Tobo [Tobacco] for the two days attending ... 21 May 1751
Page 225 - Ordered that Joseph Mangum [unclear] appointed survey of the road leading over Clays Bridge.
EDITOR'S COMMENT:
I don't think I have seen these records published anywhere else before. Only a couple of items stand out to me. One is that it appears that both William Mangum Sr. and his supposed son Samuel Mangum had financial problems before the migration to N.C. about 1748. Maybe those financial problems were one of the incentives for their move. The second item is the statement in the court record (page 266) that shows that Samuel Mangum was not in the County of Surry in 1747, about a year before we believe William Sr. and family moved to N.C. The records also show that William Sr. was still in Surry County on 16 June of 1748 when he appraised the estate of William Sherrod. He was definitely out of the County by 21 June 1748. He may have been gone by 19 Jan. 1748 as one John Holt decided not to prosecute him for a debt, probably realizing it was a waste of time if William had already left the County."
11. 1. Virginia Court actions (1741-1751) mentioning: John Mangum (II), his wife Olive Savidge, and his orphaned Children; his brothers James, William, and Samuel Mangum; and miscellaneous Savages/Savidges. We know that Olive Savidge had brothers Love/Love Jr./Loveliss and Robert since all three are identified in the 1728 will of Loveliss Sr.. The relationship of the other Savages/Savidges - Benjamin, Henry, William and his wife Mary, and John - is undetermined from these documents and further research is needed. (Henry and Loveliss Savidge are named in the same document which would indicate some type of relationship.)
From the book "Surry County, Virginia, Court Orders, 1741-1751, An Every Name Index," by T.L.C. Genealogy, PO Box 403369, Miami Beach, FL 33140-1369, 1992, copy in the Walter Cecil Rawls Library in Courtland, Surry, Virginia. Court books are: 1 = 1741-1744; A = 1744-1749; B = 1749 -1751. The second part of the code is the page number and then the month of the court term (in Julian calendar nomenclature). Court books can be seen on FHL films 34129 and 34130 as well as FHL books 975.5562 P2hw (sev. volumes). The following are my brief extractions from the various listed cases:
James Mangum:
A-563 Jun 1749 James Mangum on a jury.
B-020 Oct 1749: Dinah a Negro girl belonging to James Mangum was adjudged to be 8 years old.
B-106 Jun 1750: James Mangum Plt. vs. Thomas Eldridge Admr. of Thomas King decd.
B-225 May 1751: James Mangum Plt. vs. Thomas Eldridge Admr. of Thomas King decd.
John Mangum:
1-087 Feb 1742/3: Indentures between John Mangum with his wife Olive and Zachariah Madere.
1-234 Jul 1744: Widow Olive Mangum obtains adminstration over estate of her deceased husband John Mangum with William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties.
1-235 Jul 1744: Samuel Maget, Robert Judkins, Bartholomew Figures and William Owen swore before Howell Briggs, Gent., to appraise and inventory the slaves and personal estate of John Mangum, decd.
A-013 Dec 1744: Inventory of estate of John Mangum returned to Court and ordered to be recorded.
A-058 Jun 1745: William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties of Olive Mangum are concerned about their role and petitions to have the estate turned over to them by Olive Mangum concerning the estate of her decd. husband John Mangum.
John's Orphans:
A-323 Jun 1747: "Ordered that the Church Wardens of Albemarle Parish bind out the orphans of John Mangum according to Law."
Olive Mangum:
1-087 Feb 1742/3: Indentures between John Mangum with his wife Olive and Zachariah Madere.
A-058 Jun 1745: William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties of Olive Mangum are concerned about their role and petitions to have the estate turned over to them by Olive Mangum concerning the estate of her decd. husband John Mangum.
A-387 Oct 1747: Olive Mangum and Samuel Maget are witnesses to the will of John Richardson, decd., presented by Elizabeth Richardson, widow.
Widow Olive Mangum
1-234 Jul 1744: Widow Olive Mangum obtains adminstration over estate of her deceased husband John Mangum with William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties.
Samuel Mangum:
A-024 Feb 1744/5: Samuel Mangum, deft. in lawsuit by Thomas Jones for debt.
A-266 Feb 1746/7: Plt. against Samuel Mangum, carpenter, Deft. for debt. Suit abated because Deft. not inhabitant of this County.
B-214 May 1751: Samuel Mangum, Plt. vs. Agniss Washington Deft. suing for 30 sh. owed for construction of a building. Deft. won.
B-216 May 1751: Herod Clary, a witness for Agness Washington in the suit of Samuel Mangum, motions for payment from Deft. for his two days in court.
William Mangum:
1-184 Nov 1743: William Mangum serving on Jury of Grand Inquest.
1-234 Jul 1744: Widow Olive Mangum obtains adminstration over estate of her deceased husband John Mangum with William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties.
A-058 Jun 1745: William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties of Olive Mangum are concerned about their role and petitions to have the estate turned over to them by Olive Mangum concerning the estate of her decd. husband John Mangum.
A-070 Jul 1745: William Mangum serving on jury.
A-313 Jun 1747: William Mangum and three others appointed to appraise the slaves and estate of Arthur Sherrod, decd.
A-415 Jan 1747/8: John Holt Plt. vs. William Mangum & Charles Clary Deft.: Debt.
A-463 May 1748: Attachment of John Ruffin, Gent., against estate of William Mangum. A Humphrey Bailey also involved.
A-475-476 Jun 1748: Attachment of Thomas Pritlaw against estate of William Mangum. Effects are in the hands of Joseph Jeffries, Edmund Barrow, Thomas Bell, and Jonathan Ellis. James Nicolson, William Rogers, and Bufort Pleasant names as additional garnishees.
A-493 Aug 1748: Attachment of Thomas Pritlow against estate of William Mangum. Beuford Pleasant also named as a garnishee.
A-540 May 1749: William Mangum vs. Joseph Jeffries.
A-570 Jun 1749: Thomas Pritloe vs the Estate of William Mangum.
Benjamin Savage:
A-088 Sep 1745: Benjamin Savage plaintiff vs. Elias George deft. Benj. did not show up and last by default. No type of case given but deft. asked to recover 5 shilling for expenses.
A-400 Nov 1747: Benjamin Savage to be paid for plank to repair Cyprus Swamp Bridge. Paid with 271 lbs. of tobacco.
Henry Savage:
B-203 Apr 1751: Henry Savage, Loveless Savage, James Moore, John Mooring and Lewis Long had garnished an unnamed debtor.
B-306 Aug 1751: Henry Savage, Loveless Savage, James Moore, John Mooring and Lewis Long had garnished Edward Long. Robert Davis, John Hay and wife Judith (excutrix of Charels Binns dec'd) added as garnishees.
Love Jr. Savage:
A-513 Dec 1748: Sale and indenture between Joseph Lancaster and Love Savage Junior.
Love Savidge:
B-143 Oct 1750: Judith Binns, exctrx. of Chalres Binns, Gent. vs Love Savidge concerning debt.
Loveless Savage:
B-203 Apr 1751: Henry Savage, Loveless Savage, James Moore, John Mooring and Lewis Long had garnished an unnamed debtor.
B-234 May 1751: Judith Binns, exctrx. of Chalres Binns, Gent. vs Loveless Savage concerning debt.
B-306 Aug 1751: Henry Savage, Loveless Savage, James Moore, John Mooring and Lewis Long had garnished Edward Long. Robert Davis, John Hay and wife Judith (excutrix of Charels Binns dec'd) added as garnishees.
Robert Savidge:
A-438 Apr 1748: Sale and indenture between William George and Robert Savidge.
B-149 Oct 1750: Judith Binns, exctrx. of Chalres Binns, Gent. vs Robert Savidge concerning promissory note of 38 sh. 8 pence.
Robert Savage:
B-196 Apr 1751: Sale and indenture between John Wall with wife Mary and Robert Savage, all of County of Surry.
William Savage:
A-016 Jan 1744/5: Indenture of a sale between William Savage and his wife Mary with James Adams.
William Savidge:
B-133 Sep 1750: Sale and indenture between Joseph Lancaster with wife William and John Savidge, all of County of Surry.
Mary Savage:
A-016 Jan 1744/5: Indenture of a sale between William Savage and his wife Mary with James Adams.
John Savidge:
B-134 Sep 1750: Sale and indenture between Joseph Lancaster with wife Mary and John Savidge, all of County of Surry.
MARRIAGE:
1. Date and place is a guess only. Husband John was born and died in Surry Co.
2. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 51, January 2003, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 13-15, article includes scanned images of the actual documents: This Part 9 [of a series in the Journal] of the old Virginia records continues to delve more deeply into the records of the second John Mangum (II) of Virginia... [showing that Olive was his wife]:
"INDENTURE of LEASE & RELEASE Between John& Olive Mangum and ZACHARIAH MADERE, (Surry County, Virginia Order Book 1741-1744, page 87. Court date 16 Feb. 1742): 'Indentures of Lease & Release between John Mangum and Olive his wife of the one part and Zachariah Madere of the other part were acknowledged by the sd [said] John and Olive and by the Court Ordered to be recorded previous to which the sd Olive was privily Examined as the Law Directs.' (EDITOR'S NOTE: Appears to be related to land dealings between the Mangums and Mr. Madere.) (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record above is an indenture of Lease and Release between John Mangum (& Olive his wife) and Zachariah Madere. It is apparently related to land sales between the parties. This record is significant in that it specifically calls Olive the wife of John Mangum.)"
Olive Mangum ADMINISTRATOR of John Mangum'S Estate, (Surry County, Virginia Orders 1744-1749, Page 58, June Court, 1745): 'On the Petition of James Nicholson and William Mangum Thereby Sitting forth That they the sd Peititioners became bound to this Court as Securities of Olive Mangum for her due - - Administration of the Estate of John Mangum deced and apprehending themselves to be in Imminent Danger of being Demnified Prayed relief in the Premisses Where upon after hearing as well the sd Petitioners as the sd Olive It is ordered and Decreed That the sd Olive Deliver up the sd Estate to the sd Petitioners or give them good and sufficient security to Indemnific them in the premises.' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record concerns Olive Mangum as administrator of John Mangum (II)'s estate. It appears that her securities, William Mangum and James Nicholson, were about to be out some money because of some irregularities in Olive's handling of John Mangum's estate. The court ordered Olive to release the estate to the petitioners or give them enough security (money or property probably) to cover the impending liability on James Nicholson & William Mangum. We believe, by circumstantial evidence, that John Mangum (II) (the deceased) was a son of John Mangum(I) the immigrant, and William Mangum was John (II)'s brother.)"
ORPHans of John Mangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1744-1749, page 323, 16 June 1747 Court): 'Ordered That the Church Warden of Albemarle Parish bond out the Orphans of John Mangum according to Law.' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record concerns the Orphans of John Mangum. This shows that John Mangum (II) had children and they or at least some of them were minors in 1747. Oh, how do we wish they had been named! ED.)"
3. See also other records quoted above from "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal" concerning the estate administration of John Mangum also confirming John and Olive were married.
BIRTH:
1. Caution should be used in accepting exact birth dates on any second generation Mangums. There are no records of any of the births of any of the Mangums of the second generation (after the first generation of John Mangum, the immigrant, and his wife Frances Bennett). Any dates given here and with all other genealogies that I have seen by other family researchers are conjecture. Most records we have of this generation are by association of later wills and other transactions and by association of time and locality. As quoted from the book "Pleasant Mangum and All His Kin," comp. by James Lynn Parham, longtime editor of the Mangum Family Bulletin and the premier researcher on early Mangums, 1997, pp. 41-45: "The determination of the children of the immigrant John Mangum has been mostly a matter of edutated guesswork. We know that Mary and Sarah Mangum, mentioned in Sarah Lancaster's will of 1722, were daughters of John Mangum. Both were apparently minors at that time. Frances, mentioned in the will of Richard Bennett, Jr., may have been a daughter of John, but that theory is controversial [kp: based on the interpretation of Robert Bennett's will where it says my granddaughter Frances Mangum]. John who married Olive Savidge, was most likely the eldest son of John and Frances. Two other probably sons, James and William, both married Marys and recorded some of their children's births in the Albemarle Parish [kp: which began in 1739, but has many missing pages in the extant copy]... For various other reasons, some researchers have assigned other children to John and Frances. Among those is Henry Mangum who recorded his children's births in the Mill Swamp Baptist Church records of Isle of Wight County, beginning in 1746. His tie to John the immigrant lies in the fact that he was in the same general area and his age was approximately the ages of John's other children."
Many researchers also include Nicholas, Joseph, and Samuel as children merely on possible association by time and locality. Others consider Nicholas as a possible separate immigrant, Samuel as a son of second generation William Mangum, Sr., and Joseph as a son of second generation Nicolas (or possible first generation) Mangum. Unfortunately there is no proof on the these latter three one way of the other.
Most birthdates assigned to the spouses of these individuals are also conjecture based on arbitrary dates given to the Mangum family births.
DEATH:
1. Listed as a godmother in several christenings up thru 19 May 1754. See quotation above. Death would have had to be at the earliest after that date.
SOURCES_MISC:
1. The book "Births and Deaths 1717-1778 from the Albemarle Parish Register of Surry and Sussex Counties, Virginia," by John Bennett Brodie, 1958, Genealogical Publishing Co., copy in Courtland, Virginia library.
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Chris & Julie Petersen's Genealogy
Abt 1700 - Aft 1754 (~ 54 years)