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- RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Biographical info per the book "John Mangum, American Revolutionary War Soldier and Descendants," 1986, p. 7-16, by Delta Ivie Mangum Hale: "Shortly after the Rev. War, John married Mary Murdock. Mary was known by the nickname of Polly to the family. Her father was Hamilton Murdock. The date of their marriage is not known. Three children were born to John and Mary. The oldest, James Mangum, was born Dec. 6, 1791 at Newberry, So. Carolina. The next Child, Nancy, was born Nov. 11, 1794, and the third Child, Elizabeth, was born on Christmas Eve in 1798. Both Nancy and Elizabeth were born in South Carolina, but the town is not known. John's first wife, Mary, died, and after a time he remarried, this time to Gemima Goggins. John's brother William, was married to Gemima's sister, Anna. These two couples were apparently quite close, as John was the administrator of William's estate following William's death. Copies of the wills of both William and Anna are in the possession of the author. Two children were born to John and Gemima. The oldest, Cyrus, was born Jan. 5, 1805 [typo for 1803?] at Newberry. He went by the nickname of Russ. After he grew up he married and moved to Texas where he left a large posterity. The other child was born June 17, 1804. John's second wife died, and he was again left a widower."
2. Censuses:
1790 US: The following Mangum, Richey, Goggins, and Murdock names occur in Newberry Counties, South Carolina - none with that surname appear in neighboring Laurens county where the Adairs were located:
P. 57, William Murdock: males over 16: 1; males under 16: 1; females: 1; slaves: 0.
P. 74, Ambrose Hudgins, 1-1-5-0 (Possible father to Austen Hudgens who married Elizabeth Mangum? On the previous p. 72 [73 is blank], there is a Sam'l Hugghen who could also be a possibility but probably not. In neighboring Laurens Co., there are also two other "Ambros" Hudgins: pp. 433 and 443 with most Adairs in that county occurring on pp. 440-442. There are various Huggins, Hudgens, Hudggens, Huggans in South Carolina - but with none in Newberry or Laurens except as noted above.)
P. 74, James Goggin, 2-4-5-2. Separated from Ambrose above by 10 names.
P. 74, Geo. Goggens, 2-3-2-0. (Separated from James above by 26 names.)
P. 74, William Goggins, 1-3-3-0. (Separated from Geo. above by 6 names.)
P. 76 (note page 75 is blank), John Mangum, 1-0-1-0. (Separated from William Goggins above by 58 names.)
P. 76 (note page 75 is blank), Wm. Goggins, 2-2-1-0. (Separated from John Mangum above by 0 names.)
P. 76 (note page 75 is blank), Wm. Mangum, 2-2-2-0. (Separated from Wm. Goggins by 2 names.)
P. 76 (note page 75 is blank), Robert Richey, 1-1-6-1. (Separated from Wm. Mangum by 39 names.)
1800 US: Newberry District, South Carolina, 71 pages, census appears to be grouped by letters of the alphabet with all the Ms together but not necessarily alphabetically within the Ms; columns are 5 for males and 5 for females each subdivided as under 10, 10-15, 16-25, 26-44, 45 and over:
P. 42: John Mangum, 1-0-0-1-0-2-0-0-1-0.
P. 44: William Mangrum, 2-2-0-1-0-2-1-0-1-0.
3. Location of John Mangum's land in Newberry county is at longitude -81.78675 lat. 34.30267 at the last upper wye in headwaters of Sandy Run Creek just southwest of the town of Bush River, Newberry, South Carolina. Sandy Run drains into the Little River. The town Bush River can be found due east of Newberry and due south of Kinards per copies of aerial photos and topo maps on file with me. Source of information for this is from the book "Laurens and Newberry Counties South Carolina: Saluda and Little River Settlements 1749-1775," by Jesse Hogan Motes, 1994, Southern Historical Press, Inc., Greenville, SC, p. 99: "Chain of title for Elizabeth Johnston [Johnson]; Lease and release 5 and 6 Aug 1779: Joseph Hays, blacksmith, of the District of Ninety Six, to John Mnagum, planter, of the aforesaid place, for ₤200, 100 acres in Berkley [old name for Newberry Co.] on the waters of Little River, in the fork between Broad and Saludy Rivers and is one-half of 200 acres of land granted to Elizabeth Johnston granted 19 Jun 1772 and conveyed by her unto sd. Joseph Hays by lease and release 24 Feb 1773 and lies on the southside of the main county road that leads from Rebourn's Creek to Charleston, which sd. road is the dividing line through the sd. aforesaid tract of 200 acres; bounded S by land of John Pitts, Timothy Griffin, and David Richardson. Signed Joseph Hays. Wit: Daniel Williams, Samuel Goodman, James Goodman. Proved by James Goodman before William Caldwell, J.P. 4 Oct 1790. Recorded 27 Nov 1790, W. Malone, Clk. Ct. (Newberry Deed Book A; 1060-3. WPA; 79)
Note that on page 94 and 108 are reconstructed plat maps showing nearby neighbors of John Mangum: James Gogans (1771/100 acres)/James Goggans (1778/150 acres from Robert Johnston 1765 conv.), Hamilton Murdock (1768/350 acres), and Robert Brown (1768/100 acres).
4. Per email of Colleen Gwynn, gchistree@msn.com, 22 Feb 2005: "I have a cross-reference from the will of Peter Ruble of Newberry Co., SC, 16 May 1791 with the names Mary Murdock and William Murdock (3 names after Mary) listed in index of included names." Source is online South Carolina Dept. of Archives and History, Newberry Co., Spring Branch, MSS Will, Estate Record Book A., Page 100. She has not seen the will nor does she know if this is the right Murdock or not. I do not find a Peter Ruble in the 1790 So. Carolina US census.
QUESTIONS:
1. Per "California DAR Ancestry Guide" by the California State Society of the National Society of the DAR, 1976: John Mangum, Revolutionary War private from South Carolina: "b. Jan 19, 1763, Mecklenburg Co. VA; m (1) Betsy Murdock (2) Gurnine Coughlin (3) Rebecca Knowles." children listed as "Infant (1st wife) b. ca 1801; d. infant," "Cyrus (2nd wife), b. Jan 5, 1803; d. young," and from 3rd wife: Jemima, William, Rebecca, James Mitchell, Joseph, Jennie, and Lucinda. [Note problems with names and order of wives.]
2. An interesting dilemma is to in which order Mary (aka Polly) Murdock and Gemima Goggins were wives to John Mangum prior to his third and documented wife Rebecca Canida. I looked at my notes and can find no documented proof either way. Delta Hales, in her Mangum book, of course places Mary first and then Gemima second. She also lists John's first three children with Mary, then the next two with Gemima. I have similarly used Mary first and Gemima second. Here are some thoughts:
Delta seemed to have struggled a bit with this too. She lists Cyrus Mangum, who is generally supposed to be the first of two children born of the second marriage to Gemima, as having a birthdate of 5 Jan 1805. I have always thought she had a typo and it was meant to be 1803, but perhaps she did it deliberately. In either case it goes against two things, his stepbrother William Mangum when he did both Cyrus' baptism for the dead in early 1877 and then the endowment later mid-1877 at the St. George LDS temple gave the birthdate of 5 Jan 1803 consistently. William and his sister Rebecca Mangum Adair, both of the third marriage, did all the known siblings from the first two marriages of their father John Mangum. In each case, they had detailed birth dates for each of the siblings, which were then recorded into the temple record. Of course, William may have been in error; however, the second thing going for an 1803 date would be the 1850 Pickens Co., AL census and the 1860 Lavaca Co., TX censuses wherein Cyrus states his age respectively as 47 then 57. I am inclined to accept an 1803 date unless better documentation is later found. The deed below for Aug 1803, clearly shows Mary as the wife. Even Delta Hale shows the same deed information in her book - hence her moving Cyrus to an 1805 birthdate. She does not dwell further on Cyrus except to note he moved to Texas and had a large posterity. I think our research into Cyrus is more detailed than what Delta perhaps pursued. This leaves us with two logical scenarios:
Mary was the second wife, not the first. She would then be mother to Cyrus b. 5 Jan 1803 and to his sister Mary, b. 17 Jun 1804, instead of Gemima. In that case, Gemima would have then most likely been mother to the first three children generally ascribed to Mary: James, b. 6 Dec 1791; Nancy, b. 11 Nov 1794; and Elizabeth, b. 24 Dec 1798; (and possibly an undocumented infant b. and d. circa 1801). Of course whose children are whose depends when wife no. 1 died and John married wife no. 2.
Mary was indeed the first wife and Cyrus was her son (and possibly Mary also as a dau.) and Gemima was the second wife with either one dau. (Mary) or no children.
I do not know which is correct without further data input. I also note that for whatever reason, when doing the baptisms for the dead, Rebecca Mangum Adair, did "Gemima Gogins" first than "Mary Murdock". She then did stepsiblings Nancy, Elizabeth, and Mary in that order which was by age.
I also previously found a 1976 California DAR Ancestry Guide listing John's three wives as Betsy Murdock, Gurnine Coughlin, and Rebecca Knowles. And that Cyrus was from the second wife and born 5 Jan 1803. I am not sure who originally gave them that info, but it certainly does not help.
Currently I am going to only show the dilemma as a note in my database notes until further light and knowledge is obtained.
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Chris & Julie Petersen's Genealogy
Abt 1767 - Aft 1803 (~ 36 years)