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- RESEARCH_NOTES;
1. Censuses:
1790 US: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/census/mohawk1790.html; 1790 Census, Montgomery County, MohawkTown:
1st No.-Free white males over 16 years 2nd No.-Free white males under 16 years 3rd No.-Free white females 4th No.-All other free persons 5th No.-Slaves
*illegible
Brittain, Abraham - 1-2-5-0-0 [Abraham Brinton?] Frederick, Francis - 1-3-3-0-0 Frederick, Peter - 1-3-5-0-0 Frederick, Philip - 1-0-1-0-2
Marlet, Michael - 1-1-4-0-0 Mower, Hendrick - 1-1-1-0-0
VanHorn, Cornelius - 2-2-5-0-0 VanHorn, Thomas - 1-1-5-0-*
2. FHL book 974.761D2G "Early Families of Herkimer County New York, Descendants of the Burnetsfield Palatines," by William V.H. Barker, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1986, preface: "In 1664 the British took control of New York State and the Mohawk Valley area came under the jurisdiction of Albany County from that time until about 1774 when it became Tryon county (in 1784 the area was renamed as Montgomery county, the western portion of which was set off in 1791 as Herkimer County). In modern times, Herkimer County bounded by Oneida County on the west and by Montgomery and Fulton Counties on the east." [N.B. Tryon was changed to Montgomery because Tryon followed the Tory cause whereas Montgomery was a patriot.]
3. Montgomery County, NY, Archives 19 Sep 2007 visit:
A. Dutch Reformed Church of Caughnawaga (Fonda), NY:
a. Helena, b. 22 Feb 1782, bapt. 2/24/1782 to Peter Frederick and Elizabeth Marlat, Sp. Francis - - and Lena Fredrick.
b. Christiana, b. 13 Apr 1786, bapt. 7/2/1786 to Peter Frederick and Elizabeth Marlat. No sponsors.
B. Dutch Reformed Church Schenectady, New York:
a. Francis, b. 20 Jul 1788 to Peter Frederick and Elizabeth Marlet. No sponsors.
4. The book "Mohawk Land Records," by Maryly B. Penrose, p. 56, bills of sale [note Mohawk District was the predecessor name for Florida Township. Tryon Co. was changed to Montgomery County after the Rev. War.]:
"Saltz, Frantz, to Philip Frederick, Francis Cruth, Peter Frederick and Frantz Frederick. Instrument dated 4/28/1784; recorded 3/17/1785. Description: In consideration of serveral good causes made over all his moveable estate. Signed: Frantz ["X" his mark] Salts. Wit: Wm. Schuyler, Thomas Caine. The instrument was executed in person by Frants Saltz as a voluntary act. (Tryon County Deeds, Book 1, p. 257, 1772-1788)"
Philip would be his son-in-law, Peter and Francis are grandsons through Philip, and Francis Cruth (Grosch), grandson through son-in-law Peter Grosch.
5. The following will abstract in the Frederick family file at the Montgomery Co. New York Archives concerns Peter Frederick. I am unsure as to which Peter. This deceased Peter's wife is Margaret and he has a son named Philip. The date seems very late for Peter the immigrant. As to Peter, the grandson of Peter the immigrant, there is no record of his having a son named Philip. Neither Peter has a record of a wife named Margaret. The abstract:
"Frederick, Peter, of Florida, will dated 3/9/1804, probated 6/12/1804. Mentions, wife Margaret, sons Philip and my 2 others (not named), my daughters (not named) Executor David Cady. Witnesses: George Serviss, Moses Tuttle, Stephen Reynolds."
6. The book "History of Montgomery and Fulton Counties, N.Y.," reprinted 2002 (originally printed in the 1880s) contains some local history which adds to the historical perspective of the times of Peter Frederick in Montgomery county. I recommend browsing and reading this extensive history of which I have partial copy on file, but I do include a few excerpts in these notes:
A. Original ownership in Florida township area. Walter Butler purchased from the Indians a tract of 86,000 acres which was divided into six tracts, one of which was transferred to Charles Williams and others, August 19th, 1735, and comprised the principal portion of what is now the township of Florida. The parties taking possession of this tract were to pay the yearly rent of 2 shillings, 6 pence for each 100 acres at the Custom House in New York, and agreed to settle and cultivate at least 3 acres out of every 50 within the next three years. Additionally all trees 24 inches in diameter and upwards, at 12 inches from the ground, were to be reserved for masts for the Royal Navy. This was the tract afterward owned by Sir Peter Warren, and known as Warrensbush, probably purchased by him in 1737; as a petition to be allowed to purchase 6,000 acres of land is filed by him in the Secretay of State's office, dated May 5th, 1737. this land remained in the Waren family for nearly sixty years. After the death of Sir Peter Warren, Warrensbush was divided into three parts: one part was conveyed to Charles Fitzroy, otherwise called Lord Southampton; one part to the Earl of Abingdon, and the third to Henry Gage. Abingdon and Gage conveyed their two shares to John Watts, of New York, who was formerly their attorney,and was also a brother-in-law to Sir Peter Warren. David Cady was agent for John Watts in Warrensbush. Their was an anxiety to get rid of the of the vexatious ground rents, but the lease system was well entrenched, and the owners knew well their value; onl sloly and greadually was the right to the soil obtained in the late 1780s and 1790s. The following quitclaim of certain leaseholds mentions the Fredericks, Youngs, and Services: "Whereas, John Watts of the city of New York, and Jane, his wife, did purchase fromthe Earl of Abingdon, of Great Britain, and from Henry gage and Susanna, his wife, and otehrs their gtrustees, two tracts or parcels of land situatged n a place called Warrensburgh, in the town of Mohawk, county of Montgomery, State of New York, ofrmerly part of the estate of Sir Peter Warren... said John Watts hat sold and confveyed sundry lots thereof to David Cady, Nathan Stanton, Exra Murray, Phillip and Peter Frederick, William and Peter Youngs...Christian and Peter Service... and sundry others, with covenants on the part of said John Watts to convey the same in full to them on payment of certain sums... Signed and sealed 13 Nov 1793." [I am sure which Peter is spoken of - the immigrant or the son of Philip.]
B. In commenting on the various early churches in the area: "Early in 1796 a Free Will Baptist church organization was removed to Ames (where some of the members lived, including the minister Elder George Elliott) from a point several miles west, where it was established in 1794." Among the names of the original members is "Peter Frederick." I am not sure if this the original Johan Peter, his grandson Peter, or another grandson.
7. The book "The Book of Names, Especially Relating to the Early Palatines and the Frist Settlers in the Mohawk Valley," by Lou D. MacWethy, 1933:
"Tryon County Militia, 3rd Regiment, Col. Frederick Fisher":
Fredreck, Jacob
Frederick, Peter
Frederick, Francis
Fredrick, Philip
BIRTH:
1. The Philip Frederick Mill dates from 1750 according to the New York state historical highway marker sign. Maria Saltz's father lived just down the road. This would help us surmise that all of their children were born at "Millpoint" within the modern boundaries of Florida township in Montgomery County. Millpoint still shows up on modern-day maps and was probably named after the Frederick Mill. See Philip's notes for more on this mill and its present-day location.
2. Birth date is arbitrary only without basis except a marriage in 1779.
MARRIAGE:
1. Marriage records of "Records of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Caughnawaga: now the Reformed Church of Fonda, in the village of Fonda, Montgomery County, N.Y.," New York, 1917, 748 pp.:
Lodewyk Frederick and Alida Miller, 21 Mar 1774.
Frans Frederick and Susanna Cosaadt, 30 Dec 1774.
Frans Cosaadt and Nancy Johnson, 20 Jun 1777.
Thomas Van Horne and Maria Frederick, 21 Oct 1779.
Peter Frederick and Elizabeth Marlet, 21 Oct 1779 [same time as Thomas Van Horne.]
(Illegible) Mair? and the daughter of Philip Fredrick, 23 Jan 1788. [Could this be Hendrick Mower and Elizabeth Frederick?]
Christian Plank and Hannah Frederick, 1 Jan 1801.
George Frederick and Caty Cag, 21 Feb 1803.
2. Listed as parents per "Records of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Caughnawaga: now the Reformed Church of Fonda, in the village of Fonda, Montgomery County, N.Y.," New York, 1917, 748 pp.: Helena, b. 22 Jan, offspring of Peter Frederick and Elizabeth Marlet, baptized 24 Jan 1782 with sponsors Francis ___ and Lena Frederick.
3. From the book "Compendium of Early Mohawk Valley Families," by Maryly B. Penrose, v. 1, p. 281: Marriages:
A. Frederick, Bernhard m. Dorothea Schenck, 6 Jan 1771 (RDSA:190).
B. Frederick, Frans m. Susanna Cosaadt, 30 Dec 1774 (DRC:160).
C. Frederick, Lodewyk m. Alida Miller, 31 Mar 1774 (DRC:160).
D. Frederick, Peter m. Elizabeth Marlat, no date but follows 21 Oct 1779 (DRC:162).
4. From a typescript in the Frederick family file at the Montgomery Co. NY Archives: "St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church, schoharie, Schoharie Co., NY, Marriages:
"July 29, 1779, N.B. These are here only proclaimed by me:
Peter Friederich and Elisabeth Melead
Thomas Van horen and Maria Fredrich"
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