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William Service

Male Abt 1750 - Aft 1828  (~ 78 years)


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  • Name William Service 
    Born Abt 1750  of Warrensbush (now Florida), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Aft 6 Jun 1828  of Norway, Herkimer, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I1268  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Family Sophia Young,   b. From 1745 to 1750, of Warrensbush (now Florida), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married Bef 1773  of Warrensbush (now Florida), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F856  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. From my 2007 visit to the Montgomery Co., NY, Archives: "Servos/ServissService Compendium," 2002, chapter: "The Family of Christianus Servos (1661-1745) and Margaretha Elizabetha Debruen," pp. 9-26 [Kerry's note: The age variance between William reported to be born 1750 and Sophia Young b. abt 1732 seems considerable: however, he purportedly is the recipient of a letter from his purported brother in 1832 which makes 1750 very likely if he is the same William who received the letter. On the other hand, their children being born from the mid-1770s on would make Sophia between 41 and 50 years old when she gave birth to her children which seems older than usual but possible. Some of the children's births shown below seem indisputable because of their listing the 1770s' dates with parents William and Sophia from Church records. I am not sure what to make of the age difference of William Serviss and Sophia Young except that the assumed, but undocumented, birth date of Sophia of "abt. 1732 could be a bad estimate with her birth after her sister Helena, b. 3 Feb 1743/1744 and before the assumed birthdate of her sister Margarita/Maria, b. abt. 1751.]:
      "William Serviss (Wilhelmus{4}, Christianus{3}, Johann-Daniel{2}, Heinrich{1}) was born abt 1750 in Florida, Montgomery Co., NY. He maried Sophia Young abt. 1770 in Florida, Montgomery Co., NY, dau. of Peter Young and Anna Fox. She was born about 1732 in Florida, Montgomery Co., NY.
      Notes for William Serviss: Notes of the late B.J. Service: My great grandfather, William Serviss, was born in 1750 and married Sophia Yong about 1770. He also refers to his two tory brothers John W. Serviss and Christopher Serviss who went to Canada during the Revolution and later settled there...
      'The Family of William Christianus Servos," comp. by Marian Banker, 1968, p. 20: William m. Sophia Young, children: William b. 12-3-1777, Eva m. William Porter, Mary m. Gideon Helger, Elizabeth m(1) Aaron Vedder m(2) William Bly, Margaret b. 13-12-1783 m. 24-10-1807 to Dr. Peter Mabee, Philip m. (1) Clarcia Hall m(2) Caroline Wendover and Rachel (died young).
      'Martin Shellabarger, 1819-1894, Descendants and Antecedents, Allied Lines,' by Carmen Miesen Bussard, Chapt. XIV, Descendants of Heirich Zerbenas: William Serviss s/o Frederick Wilhelm resided 1789 in Remsenbos, Montgomery Co., NY Census 1790 Montgomery Co., m. Sophia Yong, children: William b. 12-3-1777 Fonda, bpt. 25-4-17; 77 Caughnawaga Reformed Church (DCR), Margarita Servis b. 13-12-1783 bpt. 11-5-1784 CRC, Philip, Rachel b. 10-10-1789 in Remsembos, Montgomery Co., NY.
      Children of William Serviss and Sophia Young are:
      A. Eva Serviss, b. 1773; m. William Porter 2 Feb 1790, Warrenbush, NY. Notes: LDS IGI Film# 184207: Evelyn Service, b. 1773 Florida, Montgomery Co., NY, d/o of William and Sophia Young - is this the same person?
      B. Mary Serviss, b. Abt 1775, Montgomery Co., NY; m. Gideon Helger... [Notes Gideon's last name may be Winegar.]
      C. William Serviss, b. 12 Mar 1777 Florida, Montgomery Co., NY; d. abt 1840; m. Asanath Winager [or Aseanth Winegar]. "Compendium of Early Mohawk Valley Families," by Maryly Penrose, p. 721: Willem b. 3-13-1777 bpt. 4-25-1777, s/o William Service and Sophia Young, sponsors Peter Young and Eva Young...
      D. Elizabeth Serviss, b. 1782, Florida, Mongtomery, NY; m(1) Aaron Vedder m(2) William Bly... [notes LDS IGI Film# 184211 notes Elizabeth Service b. 1782, Florida or Glenn, Montgomery Co., NY, d/o William and Sophia Young.
      [The following letter is from John W. to William:] 'Young and Servos Families, Misc. Records and Papers of Mohawk Valley,' by Dorothy Hadlock: A letter addressed to William Serviss, Herkimer, Town of Norway, NY, from John W. Serviss, County of Dundas, Town of Matilda, Ontario, Canada dated 6th June 1828, 'Dear Brothers and Sisters: I have the pleasure to inform you of our health and welfare, thanks to God that all our friends are well, I myself with pain I state these few lines but bless God that it as well as it is for my part. I don't look for many more days in this troublesome world. I in a weak manner and with the help of my Lord Master Jesus Christ to make my escape to the regions above in the heavens above where there are mansions prepared for all them that serve the Lord, where all that will may enjoy... (probably blessings) of the redeemed of the Lord through Eternity. I trust and hope that you and all our friends will strive to meet me there, where we shall see eye to eye, face to face and parting no more. The rest of our friends are all well, as for bro Christopher I have mentioned before of his death and also of his son William and received no answer, - - -that he died to the - - , one year and upwards ago and I trust he made his escape to heaven, and for my Dinah, my daughter that was with you - - years ago is married the last winter (1828) to on named Elija Tuttle, and there is a prospect of doing well. The rest of the family is well. As for the last winter we had little or no snow on no snow at all which casued the front to killl a geat part of our fall wheat. In this part of the country. In my part there is remains left and locks look promising. Furthermore I shall be happy to see or hear from you all please to notify the rest of our friends in Florida (Montgomery County - Hadlock note) forebear not to write when the opportunity offers, please write when the bearer hereof, Michael Munk returns old Schoharie, which at his return will call upon Henry Veeter (Hadlock - Probably Henry Veeder) Attorney living at the Little Falls. I and my family and the widow of the departed Br and her sons and wives our best respects to you and family and all Florida friends. - This from loving brother John W. Serviss.' "]
      [Note elsewhere in the above-quoted "Compendium" 'book, the author notes some uncertainty of the exact father of Margaret and William Serviss. The author considers Wilhelmus as her best option from the explanation given in the book, but other possibilites include "Frederick Wilhelmus or Christian (not Christopher Thomas)." The above-referenced "Compendium" book is somewhat confusing to me because I don't believe it adequately places the two earliest Serviss', Peter and Christian/Christopher, found in association with Johan Peter Frederick who are listed as early at 1761 receiving part of Sir William Johnson's Royal Grant and who are later denounced due to their Loyalism during the Rev. War. The Compendium's Peter has no birth information but it is inferred to be mid-1740s and Christopher's as 1745, which would have been too late to be associated with Peter Frederick and William Johnson in 1761. Elsewhere, the Compendium indicates that the Christopher associated with Peter Frederick was of the previous generation known as Christopher Thomas and was born 13 Jun 1721 in Germany and died 5 Aug 1778 at Lutheranville, Charlotte River, New York (wherever that may be). I don't know about Peter because I did not copy that portion of the book during my visit to the Montgomery County Archives. In short, I am confused by what is currently published without deeper research. Being that this line is very collateral to mine, I will leave it up to others to sort this out - Kerry Petersen.]

      2. The book "History of Montgomery and Fulton Counties, N.Y.," reprinted 2002 (originally printed in the 1880s):
      A.. Original ownership in Florida township area. Walter Butler purchased from the Indians a tract of 86,000 acres which was divided into six tracts, one of which was transferred to Charles Williams and others, August 19th, 1735, and comprised the principal portion of what is now the township of Florida. The parties taking possession of this tract were to pay the yearly rent of 2 shillings, 6 pence for each 100 acres at the Custom House in New York, and agreed to settle and cultivate at least 3 acres out of every 50 within the next three years. Additionally all trees 24 inches in diameter and upwards, at 12 inches from the ground, were to be reserved for masts for the Royal Navy. This was the tract afterward owned by Sir Peter Warren, and known as Warrensbush, probably purchased by him in 1737; as a petition to be allowed to purchase 6,000 acres of land is filed by him in the Secretary of State's office, dated May 5th, 1737. this land remained in the Warren family for nearly sixty years. After the death of Sir Peter Warren, Warrensbush was divided into three parts: one part was conveyed to Charles Fitzroy, otherwise called Lord Southampton; one part to the Earl of Abingdon, and the third to Henry Gage. Abingdon and Gage conveyed their two shares to John Watts, of New York, who was formerly their attorney, and was also a brother-in-law to Sir Peter Warren. David Cady was agent for John Watts in Warrensbush. Their was an anxiety to get rid of the of the vexatious ground rents, but the lease system was well entrenched, and the owners knew well their value; only slowly and gradually was the right to the soil obtained in the late 1780s and 1790s. The following quitclaim of certain leaseholds mentions the Fredericks, Youngs, and Services: "Whereas, John Watts of the city of New York, and Jane, his wife, did purchase from the Earl of Abingdon, of Great Britain, and from Henry gage and Susanna, his wife, and others their trustees, two tracts or parcels of land situated in a place called Warrensburgh, in the town of Mohawk, county of Montgomery, State of New York, formerly part of the estate of Sir Peter Warren... said John Watts hath sold and conveyed sundry lots thereof to David Cady, Nathan Stanton, Ezra Murray, Phillip and Peter Frederick, William and Peter Youngs...Christian and Peter Service... and sundry others, with covenants on the part of said John Watts to convey the same in full to them on payment of certain sums... Signed and sealed 13 Nov 1793." [I am sure which Peter is spoken of - the immigrant or the son of Philip.]