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1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,†Douglas Richardson (2013):
“Children of Margaret de Clare, by Bartholomew de Badlesmere, Knt.:
i. GILES DE BADLESMERE, Knt., 2nd Lord Badlesmere, son and heir. He married ELIZABETH DE MONTAGU, daughter of William de Montagu, Knt., 1st Earl of Salisbury, 3rd Lord Montagu, Marshal of England, by Katherine, daughter of William de Grandison (or Graunson), Knt., 1st Lord Grandson [see MONTAGU 7 for her ancestry]. They had no issue. SIR GILES DE BADLESMERE, 2nd Lord Bacllesmere, died 7 June 1338. He left a will dated 4 Dec. 1337, proved 20 June 1338, requesting burial in the church of Friars Minor, Canterbury, Kent near his father. His widow, Elizabeth, married (2.d) after 31 May 1341 (by dispensation dated 27 April 1341, he and her former husband being related in the 3rd and 3rd degrees of kindred) HUGH LE DESPENSER, Knt., 3rd Lord le Despenser [see DESPENSER 11.i], lord of Glamorgan and Morgannwg, Wales, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, Maplederwell, Hampshire, Hanley, Worcestershire, etc., and, in right of his wife, of Barrow, Suffolk, son and heir of Hugh le Despenser, Knt., 2nd Lord le Despenser, by Eleanor, daughter of Gilbert de Clare, Knt., Earl of Gloucester and Hertford [see DESPENSER 11 for his ancestry]. He was born about 1308 (aged 18 in 1326). They had no issue. During the Breton civil war, he served as a captain in the English army which defeated the French at Morlaix in October 1342. He accompanied the king to France in July 1346, and was in the king's retinue at the Battle of Crecy. He was present at the Siege of Calais, which surrendered 4 August 1347. Sir Hugh le Despenser, 3rd Lord le Despenser, died 8 Feb. 1348/9, and was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire. His widow, Elizabeth, married (3) before 10 July 1350 (as his 2nd wife) GUY DE BRYAN (or BRIAN), K.G., Lord Bryan [see CAREW 10.ii], of Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Walwyn's Castle, Pembrokeshire, Clifton Dartmouth and Hardness and Slapton, Devon, etc., Governor of St. Briavel's Castle, Warden of the Forest of Dean, son and heir of Guy de Bryan, Knt., of Walwyn's Castle, Pembrokeshire, Batdeford (in Ipplepen), Clifton Dartmouth and Hardnegs, and Tor Bryan, Devon, etc., by Gwenllian, daughter of Gruffudd ap Lloyd. He was born c.1309 (being of age in 1330). They had three sons, Guy, Knt., William, Knt. [see ECHINGHAM 10], and Philip. He was first armed at Stannow Park in 1327. In 1330 the king settled a dispute between him and his father, Guy de Bryan, senior, relative to the barony and castle of Walwayn, Pembrokeshire. In 1349 he was granted an annuity of 200 marks for bearing the King's Standard against his enemies at Calais. He was summoned to Parliament from 25 Nov. 1350 to 6 Dec. 1389, whereby he is held to have become Lord Bryan. He was constantly entrusted with martial and diplomatic affairs of the highest importance. His wife, Elizabeth, died at Ashley, Hampshire 30 (or 31) July, 1359, and was buried with her 2nd husband in Tewkesbury Abbey. In 1361 he was Ambassador to the Pope. In 1369 he was appointed Admiral of the Fleet. In 1367 he purchased the manor of Woodsford, Dorset from John Whitfield, Knt. In 1377 he gave an endowment to four chaplains for the chapel of St. Mary at Slapton, Devon, which he augmented in 1386 and again in 1389. SIR GUY DE BRYAN, Lord Bryan, died 17 August 1390, and was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire. Pole Colls. towards a Desc. of Devon (1791): 274-275, 286-287. Archaeologia 14 (1803): 143-153. Banks Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 2 (1808): 63-65 (sub Bryan). Brydges Collins' Peerage of England 6 (1812): 496-511 (sub Despenser). Clutterbuck Hist. & Antiqs. of Hertford 3 (1827): 102-103 (Badlesmere-Tibetot ped.). Nicolas Controversy between Scrape & Grosvenor 2 (1832): 245-255 (biog. of Sir Guy Bryan). Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 227-228. Gentleman's Mag. n.s. 12 (1839): 18-22. Beltz Mems. of the Order of the Garter (1841): clii. Hutchins Hist. & Antiqs. of Dorset 1 (1861): 448 (Bryan ped.); 3 (1868): 291 (Montagu ped.). Council Book of the Corporation of Youghal (1878): xxxviii-xli. Daniel-Tyssen Royal Charters & Hist. Docs. Rel. the Town & County of Carmarthen (1878): 48, footnote 4. Gibbons Early Lincoln Wills 1280-1547 (1888): 6 (will of Giles de Badlesmere, Knt.) (Henry de Burghersh, Bishop of Lincoln, styled "kinsman" [consanguineus] in the 1337 will of Giles de Badlesmere, Knt.). C C.R. 1333-1337 (1898): 388-389 (Giles de Badlesmere styled "kinsman and co-heir of Richard [de Clare]"). Wrottesley Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 99, 178, 228, 236-237. VCH Dorset 2 (1908): 73-79. Rpt. & Trans.†Devonshire Assoc. 3rd Set. 3 (1911): 132, 137, 191, 210-211. VCH Hampshire 4 (1911): 150-151. C.P. 2(1912): 201, footnote b (sub Bohun), 361-362 (sub Bryan); 4 (1916): 271-274 (sub Despenser); 14 (1998): 118 (sub Bryan). VCH Surrey 4 (1912): 92-102, 249. C.F.R. 10 (1929): 359. Reichel Devon Feet of Fines 2 (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. 1939) (1939): 392, 400. Hethe Reg. Hamonis Hethe Diocesis Roffensis 2 (Canterbury & York Soc. 49) (1948): 810. Paget Baronage of England (1957) 20: 1 (sub Badlesmere). Newton Thaxted in the 14th Cent. (Essex Rec. Office 33) (1960): 3-4. Smith Itinerary of John Leland 4 (1964): 150-163. Haines Cal. Reg. of Wolstan de Bransford Bishop of Worcester (Worcestershire Hist. Soc. n.s. 4) (1966): 79. Trans. Essex Arch. Soc. 3rd See. 2(3) (1970): 295. Pugh Middle Ages: Marcher Lordships of Glamorgan, Moigananwg, Gower & Kilvey (Glamorgan County Hist. 3) (1971): 176-177. Ancient Deeds— Ser. B 2 (List & Index Soc. 101) (1974): B.7233. VCH Somerset 3 (1974): 111-120, 129-153. MacCulloch Chorography of Suffolk (Suffolk Rec. Soc. 19) (1976): 28. Emery Greater Medieval Houses of England & Wales 3 (2006): 687."
2. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,†Douglas Richardson (2013):
“JOAN TALBOT, married (as his 2nd wife) JOHN DE CAREW (or CARREU, CARRU), Knt., of Carew, Pembrokeshire, Moulsford, Berkshire, Galmpton (in Churston Ferrets), Mamhead, Monkton, Stoke Fleming, and Weston Peverell, Devon, etc., son and heir of Nicholas Carew, Knt., of Moulsford, Berkshire, by Amice, sister of John Peverel, Knt. They had one son, John, Knt. [Justiciar of Ireland], and one daughter, Joan. In 1313 he confirmed the manor of Weston Peverell, Devon to Robert Lendon his servant. SIR JOHN DE CAREW died about 1324. His widow, Joan, married (2nd) JOHN DE DARTMOUTH. His widow, Joan, presented to the church of Mamhead, Devon in 1348 and 1350.
Betham Baronetage of England 2 (1802): 283-289 (sub Carew). Risdon Chorographical Desc. or Survey of the County of Devon (1811): 37-38. Brydges Collins' Peerage of England 3 (1812): 1-49 (sub Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury). Duncumb et al. Colls. Towards the Hist. & Antiqs. of Hereford 2(1) (1812): 376-383. Debrett's Baronetage of England 1 (1815): 371-374 (sub Carew). Oliver Ecclesiastical Antiqs. in Devon 3 (1842): 66. Visitation of the County of Cornwall, in the Year 1620 (1874): 28- 32 (Carew ped.: "(1) Elinor da. & heir of Wm. Mohun of Ottery. = John Carreu Lord of C. &c. ob. 17 E. 2. = (2) Joan da. of Sir Gilbert Talbot."). Western Antiq. 11 (1893): 51. Vivian Vis. of Devon 1531, 1564 & 1620 (1895): 133-136 (Carew ped.). Owen Description of Pembrokshire 2 (1897): 325-338. D.N.B. 3 (1908): 962-963 (biog. of Sir John Carew). Reichel Devon Feet of Fines 2 (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. 1939) (1939): 192-193. Ellis Cat. Seals in the P.R.O. 2 (1981): 22 (seal of John de Carew dated 1314 - Hung in a beaded circle, between two wyverns, a shield of arms: three lions passant. Legend: *SIGILLVM.I0HANNISDE.CARRV.). Devon Rec. Office: Mamhead, 6252 Z/Z/1-2 (available at www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp). Plymouth & West Devon Rec. Office: Bewes, Dickinson & Scott, Solicitors of Plymouth, 81/R/12/6/17 (available at www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp).
Children of Joan Talbot, by John de Carew, Knt:
i. JOHN DE CAREW, Knt. [see next].
ii. JOAN DE CAREW, married (as his 1st wife) GUY DE BRYAN, K.G., of Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Walwyn's Castle, Pembrokeshire, and Northam, Slapton, and Torbrian, Devon, Seneschal of Pembroke, 1340, son and heir of Guy de Bryan, of Walwyn's Castle, Pembrokeshire, Nympton St. George, Slapton, and Torbrian, Devon, etc. He was born about 1309 (being of age in 1330). They had three daughters, Elizabeth, Margaret, and Philippe (wife of Edward de Bohun and John de Chandos, Knt.). He was first armed at Stannow Park in 1327. In 1330 the king settled a dispute between him and his father, Guy de Bryan, senior, relative to the barony and castle of Walwayn, Pembrokeshire. In 1345 John l'Archdeacon owed him a debt of £500. In 1346 he acquired the manor of Brettgrave (in Epsom), Surrey from the Abbot and convent of Chertsey. In 1347 his wife, Joan, obtained a license for a private oratory in her manor of Brettgrave (in Epsom), Surrey. In 1348 he obtained a license for an oratory for his manor of Brettgrave (in Epsom), Surrey. The same year he conveyed the manor of Brettgrave to various feoffees, probably in trust for Henry, Duke of Lancaster. In 1349 he was granted an annuity of 200 marks for baring the King's Standard against his enemies at Calais. He married (2nd) before 10 July 1350 ELIZABETH DE MONTAGU, widow successively of Giles de Badlesmere, Knt., 2nd Lord Badlesmere (died 7 June 1338) [see BADLESMERE 9.i], and Hugh le Despenser, Knt., 3rd Lord Despenser (died 8 Feb. 1348/9) [see DESPENSER 11.i], and daughter of William de Montagu, Knt., 1st Earl of Salisbury, 3rd Lord Montagu, Marshal of England, by Katherine, daughter of William de Grandison, Knt., 1st Lord Grandison [see MONTAGU 7 for her ancestry]. They had three sons, Guy, Knt., William, Knt. [see ECHINGHAM 10], and Philip. He was summoned to Parliament from 25 Nov. 1350 to 6 Dec. 1389, whereby he is held to have become Lord Bryan. He was constantly entrusted with martial and diplomatic affairs of the highest importance. He presented to the church of Torbrian, Devon in 1353. In 1357 he obtained a license for an oratory at his house at Ashley, Hampshire. His wife, Elizabeth, died at Ashley, Hampshire 31 May 1359, and was buried with her 2nd husband in Tewkesbury Abbey. In 1361 he served as ambassador to the Pope. In 1369 he was appointed Admiral of the Fleet. In 1367 he purchased the manor of Woodsford, Dorset from John Whitfield, Knt. In 1377 he gave an endowment to four chaplains for the chapel of St. Mary at Slapton, Devon, which he augmented in 1386 and again in 1389. SIR GUY DE BRYAN, Lord Bryan, died 17 August 1390, and was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire. Pole Colls. towards a Desc. of Devon (1791): 274-275, 286-287. Archaeologia 14 (1803): 143-153. Banks Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 2 (1808): 63-65 (sub Bryan). Brydges Collins' Peerage of England 6 (1812): 496-511 (sub Despenser). Debrett's Baronetage of England 1 (1815): 371-374 (sub Carew). Nicolas Controversy between Scrope & Grosvenor 2 (1832): 245-255 (biog. of Sir Guy Bryan). Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 227-228. Gentleman's Mag. n.s. 12 (1839): 18-22. Beltz Mems. of the Order of the Garter (1841): clii. Hutchins Hist. & Antiq. of Dorset 1 (1861): 448 (Bryan ped); 3 (1868): 291 (Montagu ped.). Worthy Ashburton & its Neighbourhood (1875): 149-150,158. Daniel-Tyssen Royal Charters & Hist. Does. Rel. the Town & County of Carmarthen (1878): 48, footnote 4. Vivian Vis. of Devon 1531, 1564 & 1620 (1895): 133-136 (Carew ped.). Papal Regs.: Petitions 1 (1896): 369 (Hugh de Ferrers styled "kinsman" by Guy de Bryan). Green Feet of Fines for Somerset 3 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 17) (1902): 182. Owen Old Pembroke Fams. (1902): 81-84. Wrodesley Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 99, 178, 228, 236-237. VCH Dorset 2 (1908): 73-79. Rpt. & Trans. Devonshire Assoc. 3rd Ser. 3 (1911): 132, 137, 191, 210-211. VCH Hampshire 4 (1911): 150-151. VCH Surrey 3 (1911): 275; 4 (1912): 92-102, 249. C.P. 2 (1912): 201, footnote b (sub Bohun), 361-362 (sub Bryan); 4 (1916): 271-274 (sub Despenser), 325; 5 (1926): 463-464 (sub Fitzpayn); 11 (1949): 388, footnote b (sub Salisbury); 14 (1998): 118 (sub Bryan). Reichel Devon Feet of Fines 2 (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. 1939) (1939): 392, 400. Hethe Reg. Hamonis Hethe Diocesis Roffensis 2 (Canterbury & York Soc. 49) (1948): 810. Paget Baronage of England (1957) 102:1. Smith Itinerary of John Leland 4 (1964): 150-163. Haines Cal. Reg. of Wolstan de Bransford Bishop of Worcester (Worcestershire Hist. Soc. n.s. 4) (1966): 79. Ancient Deeds - Ser. B 2 (List & Index Soc. 101) (1974): B.7233. VCH Somerset 3 (1974): 111-120, 129-153. MacCulloch Chorography of Suffolk (Suffolk Rec. Soc. 19) (1976): 28. Edington Reg. of William Edington Bishop of Winchester 1346-1366 1 (Hampshire Rec. Ser. 7) (1986): 46; 2 (Hampshire Rec. Ser. 8) (1987): 7, 23, 44. Emery Greater Medieval Houses of England & Wales 3 (2006): 687. National Archives, C 241/119/32 (available at www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp).
Children of Joan de Carew, by Guy de Bryan, KG.:
a. ELIZABETH DE BRYAN, married ROBERT FITZ PAYN, Knt., of Stogursey, Somerset [see CODNOR 11.ii].
b. MARGARET DE BRYAN, married HUGH DE COURTENAY, Knt., 3td Lord Courtenay [see COURTENAY 7.i.a].â€
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