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John de Limesy

Male - Bef 1193


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  • Name John de Limesy 
    Born of Collyweston, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Bef 28 Sep 1193 
    Person ID I6972  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Family Alice de Harcourt 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F2723  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “WALERAN, 4th Earl of Warwick, of Warwick, Warwickshire, 2nd son, born before 1153. He married (1st) MARGERY D'OILLY, daughter of Henry d'Oilly, of Hook Norton, Oxfordshire, by Maud, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, of Trowbridge, Wiltshire, Steward to Kings Henry I, Stephen, and Henry II of England. They had two sons, Henry [5th Earl of Warwick] and Waleran, and one daughter, Gundred (nun at Pinley). He was heir in 1184 to his brother, William, 3rd Earl of Warwick. He was with King Henry II at Geddington, Northamptonshire in 1188. He was present at the Coronation of King Richard I at Westminster 3 Sept. 1189. In 1195 he paid 20 marks for livery of the 3rd penny of the pleas of Warwickshire. In 1196 he paid £100 to be allowed to return to England. He married (2nd) about 1196 (when he offered 100 marks for her marriage) ALICE DE HARCOURT, widow of John de Limesy, of Collyweston, Northamptonshire (died before Michaelmas 1193), and daughter and heiress of Robert de Harcourt, of Bosworth, Leicestershire, Stanton-Harcourt, Oxfordshire, etc., by Isabel, daughter and heiress of Richard de Camville. They had one daughter, Alice. In 1199 he swore fealty to King John and is said to have carried the right hand sword at his Coronation. In 1200 he sold the reversion of the manor of Knoyle (in East Knoyle), Wiltshire to Godfrey de Lucy, Bishop of Winchester. In 1202 he was called into court by the Bishop to warrant the advowson of the church of Knoyle, Wiltshire against Maud, Countess of Warwick; Waleran was discharged from appearing in court as long as his knights were in the service of the king beyond seas. He was a benefactor of the Hospital of St. Michael, Warwick, of the nuns of Pinley, Warwickshire, and those of Wroxall, Warwickshire. WALERAN, 4th Earl of Warwick, died before 13 October 1204, it is said on 24 Dec. 1203. His widow, Alice, offered 1000 marks to remain a widow and be guardian of her children by the earl in 1205-6. She was living September 1212.
      Placitorum in Domo Capituleni Westmonasteriensi Asservatorum Abbrevatio (1811): 29. Baker Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 1 (1822-30): 414 (Mellent-Newburgh ped.). Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 5 (1825): 736 ("Tanner, however, observes ... there is the abstract of a deed of William Beauchamp earl of Warwick, confirming to the Nuns of Cokehill the gift which Isabel the countess his mother, William the earl her brother, and Waleran the earl her grandfather, who died 6 Joan. as Dugd. Baron. tom. i. p 71, made unto them, viz. the Church of Netelton."). Archaeologia 21 (1827): 199-200. Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 256. Palgrave Rotuli Curia Regis 1 (1835): 376. Baildon Select Civil Pleas 1 (Selden Soc.3 ) (1890): 50. Maitland Three Rolls of the King's Court in the Reign of King Richard the First. A. D. 1194-1195 (1891): 10, 14. Bund Inqs. Post Mortem for the County of Worcester 1 (1894): vii-ix (Warwick ped.). Round Cal. Docs. Preserved in France 1 (1899): 119 (charter of Waleran, Earl of Warwick dated 1184-1204). Wrottesley Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 72. C.P. 12(2) (1959): 363-364 (sub Warwick). Sanders English Baronies (1960): 93. Ellis Earldoms in Fee (1963): 216 ("Waleran, fourth Earl of Warwick, was the bearer of the right-handed sword at the coronation of King John on 27th May 1199. He had the third penny of the county. He married before 1190 Margaret, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, and by her had a son and heir, Henry, who succeeded him on his death on 12th December 1204. Earl Waleran married as his second wife, Alice, only child of Robert de Harcourt, and by her left an only daughter, Alice II, who married William de Mauduit."). Lincolnshire Hist. & Arch. 1 (1966): 8 ("Hugh Bardolf married Amabel daughter of Gerard de Limesy and one of the three sisters and coheirs of her brother John de Limesy. John de Limesy died before Michaelmas 1193, having married Alice daughter of Robert de Harcourt, who married, secondly, Waleran earl of Warwick as his second wife."). VCH Wiltshire 11(1980): 82-103. Midland Hist. 20 (1996): 1-23. Coss Lady in Medieval England, 1000-1500 (2000): 146 ("Thomas Basset of Headington secured the wardship and marriage of the fourteen-year-old Earl Henry II de Newburgh, and married him to one of his daughters, Philippa. Alice de Harcourt, widow of Earl Waleran, had to fight for her dower in the courts, not against her step-son, but against Thomas Basset, 'who expected to get the maximum return for his outlay on the wani.ship."'). Fonge Cartulary of St Mary’s Collegiate Church, Warwick (2004). 95-96 (charter of Waleran, Earl of Warwick; charter-witnessed by his brother, Henry), 100-101 (charter of Waleran, Earl of Warwick dated 1184-1204).
      Child of Waleran, Earl of Warwick, by Alice de Harcourt:
      i. ALICE OF WARWICK, married WILLIAM MAUDUIT, of Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, Chamberlain of the Exchequer [see BEAUCHAMP 7].”