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Hosias Herzenberg

Male Abt 1834 - Aft 1916  (~ 83 years)


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  • Name Hosias Herzenberg 
    Born Abt 1834  of Pilten (Piltene), Courland, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Aft 1916  Warzawa, Warszawa, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I3988  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Elias or Eliahu Herzenberg,   b. Abt 1804, Ventspils (Windau), Courland, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1888, Pilten (Piltene), Courland, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 84 years) 
    Mother Blume Brenner,   b. From 1801 to 1805, of Pilten (Piltene), Courland, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1898/9, Pilten (Piltene), Courland, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 98 years) 
    Family ID F1630  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
     1. Jossel or Joseph Herzenberg,   b. Abt 1851, of RÄ«ga, RÄ«ga, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Leopold Herzenberg,   b. Abt 1853, of RÄ«ga, RÄ«ga, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. Heinrich Herzenberg,   b. Abt 1855, of RÄ«ga, RÄ«ga, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. RÄ«ga, RÄ«ga, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. Julius Herzenberg,   b. Abt 1857, of RÄ«ga, RÄ«ga, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. Bernhard Herzenberg,   b. Abt 1859, of RÄ«ga, RÄ«ga, Latvia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F1911  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. The Latvian Archives is online and I have reviewed all Registers for Pilten. Registers are in German and I indicate what I don't understand. I extracted all Herzenbergs of which the following excerpts apply to this family:
      "<http://www.lvva-raduraksti.lv/en/menu/lv/13/ig/13/ie/5507/book/30316.html>
      -Image 144. Has two columns of ages after the name with the first being 1850 and the second 1854; presumably if missing in the second column then probably deceased in the interim. I believe the Archives indicates they had a 1851 revision list, which may be what they call the first column; however, it appears more like 1850 in reality age-wise. List # 23, Family #40:
      -171 Elias Lemchen Herzenberg, 46, 50 [Has comment needing translation with dates 1840 and 1854.]
      -his wife Blume
      -172 son Israel, 30, 34
      -his wife Leye
      -173 his son Abraham, 14-1/2, 18-1/2
      -174 his son Levin, 2, 6
      -175 son Jossel, 27, - , Jossel died in 1851
      -his wife Riffke
      -176 son Naphthal, 23, 27
      -177 son Hosias, 16, 20
      -178 son Abraham, 10, 14
      -Image 205. Has two columns of ages after the name with the first being 1858 and the second 1871; presumably if missing in the second column then probably deceased in the interim. There are several comments with this family requiring translation; however, Feigmanis offered a translation in his 1997 report to Harold Hodesas follows: "…mentioned that for this family somebody was take[n] in army; as well in 1854 some Jew without passport go in army." He comments: "Because conditions of military service were very difficult and 25 years long…, rich Jews try to find some poor Jew or Christian [to] go in the army for them. Also "no passport" Jews might be [caught] and given [to] the army." List #1, Family #11:
      -50 Elias Lämmchen Herzenberg, 54, 67
      -his wife Blume
      -51 his son Israel, 37-1/2, 50
      -52 his son Abraham, 22-1/2, 35-1/2
      -53 his son Levin, 10, 23
      -54 his son Joel, 6, 19
      -55 his son Jossel, 4, 17.
      -56 son Naphthaly, 31, 44
      -his wife Nesse
      -57 his son Lämme, 1-1/2, 14-1/2
      -58 son Hosias, 24, 37
      -59 son Abraham, 18, 31
      -Family 91, 372 [Cukal?] Marcus Bär, 8, 21 [Note: This is the individual showing up in Ancestry.com as Marcus Herzenberg, b. 1850, son of Bär. From this context of this entry, he is not a Herzenberg and evidently a lodger or something. Bär appears to be used as a last name in this entry.]

      2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. Sources given are HL for Leonardo Herzenberg and FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes). In regards to this individual:
      Name variations: Hosias.
      HL 102/007 shows b. 1831 in Warsaw, Poland. [KP: This seems unlikely in light of Pilten Registers quoted above.]
      FA shows b. 1834.

      BIOGRAPHY:
      1. 28 Jul 2007 Http://www.herzenberg.net/leo/htmlrh/Content.html copyrighted by Leo Herzenberg:
      "An meinen Sohn (To my son) Leonhard Herzenberg von (from) Robert Herzenberg. Memoirs written during the 1940's." Translated during the 1990's by Leonardo (Leonhard) Herzenberg. The entire memoir is quite lengthy and included in its entirety in my notes with Joseph Herzenberg, the original known ancestor, in this database. The following is only the portion dealing with this part of the family:
      "...GREAT-UNCLE Abraham Herzenberg, Mitau, and descendants. [39] Uncle Abraham in Mitau was the youngest son of my great-grandfather Elias Lemchen Herzenberg. My grandfather Naftali was the second oldest, and I will write more about him later. The second youngest was Uncle Hosias, whom I did not know. When I went to the Russian front in 1916, while passing through Warsaw on the way to Minsk, I spent an hour in his house. But I no longer remember anything. Of his sons I knew Heinrich and Leopold very casually. Heinrich married Lilly Herzenberg, the window of Meisel and lived in Riga..."

      2. Leo Herzenberg per his website noted below indicates he was born in Serbia. This does not seem likely at all in light of the Pilten Registers quoted above.

      SOURCES_MISC:
      1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/