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  • Name Hervé de Montmorency 
    Gender Male 
    Person ID I6684  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Bouchard de Montmorency 
    Mother Alice de Clermont 
    Married Bef 1123 
    Family ID F2915  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
      “GILBERT FITZ RICHARD (also styled DE CLARE and DE TONBRIDGE), of Clare, Suffolk, Tonbridge, Kent, etc., born before 1066. He succeeded to the English possessions of his father. He married ALICE (or ADELICIA, ADELIZ, ADALICIA, ADELID, HADALAIDIS) DE CLERMONT, daughter of Hugues, seigneur of Clermont, Breuil-le-Vert, Creil, Luzarches, and Mouchy-Saint-Elou, by Marguerite, daughter of Hildouin de Rameru, Count of Montdidier and Roucy [see CLERMONT 1 for her ancestry]. They had four sons, Richard, Gilbert, Walter, and Baldwin, and four daughters, Rohese (or Rose), Avice, Margaret, and Alice. In 1088 he joined the revolt of Eudes, Bishop of Bayeux, and others against King William Rufus in favor of Robert Curthose. He was besieged at Tonbridge, Kent by the king, but wounded and forced to surrender. He was evidently pardoned, as he afterwards witnessed a number of royal charters. He founded the Priory of Clare in 1090. He served in the king's army in 1091. He was involved in a conspiracy with Robert de Mowbray and others to dethrone King William Rufus in 1095 but, joining the king's army, he informed on his fellow conspirators as the army moved to suppress Mowbray. He was once again pardoned, but does not reappear in the king's company. He was granted the lordship of Cardigan, 1107-11, by King Henry I. He raised an army and subdued the region, building castles at Castles of Aberystwyth and Llanbadarn. He was a patron of Bec, granting the collegiate church at Clare to be colonized by Benedictines from the Norman house, confirmed his mother's endowment of St. Neots. He also made grants to Lewes Priory from his Surrey lands and granted the church of Llanbadarn to Gloucester Abbey. At an unknown date, wife, Alice, founded an anniversary at the Priory of Saint-Leu d'Esserent for herself and for her parents, Hugues de Clermont and his wife, Marguerite. GILBERT FITZ RICHARD last appears * Westminster 16 September 1115. The Welsh annals note his death in 1117. His widow, Alice, married (2nd) before 1123 BOUCHARD DE MONTMORENCY. They had one son, Hervé de Montmorency [Constable of Ireland]. In the period, 1136-38, she confirmed in alms to Thorney Abbey, Cambridgshire the gift of a half a yardland and ten acres in Lowick and four yardlands in Rounds made by a certain Tovi.
      Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanum 2 (1819): 601 (charter dated 1136-38 of Adeliz, uxor Gilberti filii Ricardi to Thorney Abbey), 602 (charter of Robert, Bishop of Lincoln, confirming previous gift of Alice de Montmorency [Adelidæ de Montemoraci] to Thorney Abbey), 603 (charter of Alice, mother of Earl Gilbert [Adeliz, mater comitis Gilberti] to Thorney Abbey; charter names Earl Gilbert and Walter his brother); 6(2) (1830): 834-835. Clutterbuck Hist. & Antiqs. of Hertford 3 (1827): 225-226 (Clare ped.). Lipscomb Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 1 (1847): 200-201 (Clare ped.). Williams ab Ithel Annales Cambriæ (Rolls Ser.) (1860): 36 (sub A.D. 1117: "Gilebertus filius Ricardi obiit."). Hart Historia et Cartularium Monasterii Sancti Petri Gloucestriae 2 (Rolls Ser. 33) (1865): 73-74. Jour. of the British Arch. Assoc. 26 (1870): 149-160 ("The first of the Clares who wrote himself Earl of Hertford is said to have been Richard, eldest son of Gilbert de Tonbridge, by his wife Adeliza, who is stated by Guillaume de Jumièges to have been the daughter of a Comte de Clermont ... It would be desirable to affiliate this wife of Gilbert more distinctly, by showing which of the Counts of Clermont was her father. According to Père Anselme (Hist. Généalogique) she was the daughter of Hugh, first Comte de Clermont en Beauvaisis, by his wife Marguerite de Rouey, daughter of Hildouin, fourth Comte de Rouey, and Alex. de Chastillon; but though he states this in the genealogy of Clare, he gives no such daughter to Count Hugh in that of Clermont, naming only three daughters, - 1, Ermentrude, wife of Hugh, Earl of Chester; 2, Richilde, wife of Dreux, second Seigneur de Mello; and 3, Emma, wife of Matthieu, first Comte de Beaumont sur l'Oise. The fact of her parentage depends, therefore, at present on the statement of Guillaume de Jumièges, and the authenticity of a note appended to her charter in the Register of Thorney Abbey, and thus printed by Dugdale: `Adelicia de Claramonte dicta (folio 11, cap. 9, parte 4).' The charter itself commences thus: `Adeliz mater Comitis Gilberti omnibus amicis et hominibus suis Francie et Anglie salutem,' etc.; and ends with `Sciendum est anterior hæc esse facta coram Comite Gilberti et Waltero frater ejus."). Delisle Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 14 (1877): 7 (Genealogia Regum Francorum Tertiae Stirpis: "Secundam filiam præfati Comitis Helduini de Rameruth, dictam Margaretam, duxit Hugo Comes de Claromonte, de qua nati sunt Guido dictus Qui-non-dormit, et Hugo Paper, et Comes Rainaldus, et sorores eorum. Rainaldus duxit Adelidem Comitissam Viromandensium, defuncto priore viro suo, scilicet Hugone Magno, quæ peperit ei filiam Margaretam, quam duxit Comes Karolus Flandriæ; quo mortuo, tradita est Comiti Sancti-Pauli Hugoni, qui dictus est Campus-avenæ. Prædictus Rainaldus, defuncta Adelide, duxit Comitissam de Dammartin, filiam Comitis de Rainaldi de Monzuns, de qua genuit Guidonem, et Rainaldum, et Hugonem archidiaconum Metensem, et Galterum, cum aliis utriusque sexus. Unda sororum Comitis Rainaldi nupsit in Anglia Comiti Hugoni de Cestre; alteram duxit Gislebertus filius Richardi Anglici; tertiam copulavit sibi Matthæus Comes de Bellomonte, de qua genuit alterum Matthæum Comitem, et fratrem ejus, et filias."). Round Feudal England (1895): 468-479, 519-527. Arch. Jour. 2nd Ser. 6 (1899): 221-231. Muller Prieuré de Saint-Lea d'Esserent: Cartulaire 1 (Pubs. Soc. Hist. du Vexin) (1900): 44 (charter of Adelaide de Clermont, wife of Gilbert de Anglia [Hadalaidis, filia Hugonis de Claromonte, scilicet uxor Gisleberti de Anglia]). Depoin Cartulaire de l'Abbaye de Saint-Martin de Pontoise 3 (1904): 302-305. Copinger Manors of Suffolk 1 (1905): 45-46. Delisle Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbé de Savigni (1909), titre no. 182 (Gilbert Fitz Richard styled "uncle" [avunculi] of Fransualo [de Fougères]). C.P. 3 (1913): 242-243 (sub Clare), 10 (1945):441 (Round in Feudal England, ped. at p. 472 suggests that Alice, wife of William de Percy, was the daughter of Gilbert Fitz Richard [died 1117], but see next generation). Marx ed. Gesta Normannorum Ducum (1914): 325-326 (Guillaume de Jumièges: "Gislebertus autem, qui illam terrain, quam pater eorurn habuerat in Anglia, post ipsum adeptus est; Rogerius enim, frater ejus, terram de Normannia optinuit. Hic, inquam, Gislebertus ex filia comitis de Claro Monte habuit tres filios, Ricardum, qui ei successit, et Gislebertum, et Walterium, et unam filiam, nomine Rohais."). Stenton Facsimiles of Early Charters from Northamptonshire Colls. (Northamptonshire Rec. Soc. 4) (1930): 52-54 (charter dated c.1136-38 of Alice wife of Gilbert Fitz Richard, and Gilbert, Walter, Baldwin, and Rohese, Gilbert's children). Douglas Feudal Docs. from Bury St. Edmunds (1932): 152-153. Chibnall Select Docs. of the English Lands of the Abbey of Bec (Camden 3rd Ser. 73) (1951): 21-22. Paget (1957) 130: 3-4. Sanders English Baronies (1960): 34-35, 62-63. Sussex Arch. Colls. 72 (1980): 97-126. Schwennicke Europäische Stammtafeln 3(4) (1989): 653 (sub Clermont). Brown Anglo-Norman Studies 11(1989): 261-278. Jackson Words, Names, & Hist.: Selected Papers Cecily Clark (1995): 335 (Margareta de ierborai [Gerberoy] entered in LV as sister of Alice de Clermont), 336 (Burchardus de muntmorenci entered in LV as 2nd husband of Alice de Clermont) Note: LV = Liber Vitae of Thomey Abbey (BL., Add. MS. 40,000, entry record before c.1135-1140; for Alice de Clermont's sister, Marguerite de Clermont, wife of Gerard de Gerberoy, see Prieuré de Saint-Leu d'Esserent: Cartulaire 1 (Pubs. Soc. Hist. du Vexin) (1900): 34-36). Ward Women of the English Nobility & Gentry 1066-1500 (1995): 126-127 (confirmation charter of Alice mother of Earl Gilbert dated c.1138-48), 127 (letter of Earl Roger de Clare to Alice de Claremont dated c.1152). Cownie Religious Patronage in Anglo-Norman England, 1066-1135 (1998): 123. Keats-Rohan Domesdey People 1 (1999): 52, 332-333. Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 316 (Clare ped.).
      Children of Gilbert Fitz Richard, by Alice de Clermont:
      i. RICHARD FITZ GILBERT [see next].
      ii. GILBERT FITZ GILBERT, 1st Earl of Pembroke, married ISABEL OF MEULAN [see PEMBROKE 3].
      iii. BALDWIN FITZ GILBERT, of Bourne, Lincolnshire, married ALINE (or ADELINE) DE ROLLOS [see WAKE 3].
      iv. ROHESE (or ROSE) FITZ GILBERT. She consented to a gift of her mother, Alice, to Thorney Abbey dated c.1136-38. She married BADERON DE MONMOUTH, of Monmouth, Monmouthshire. They had two sons, Gilbert and James, and one probable daughter, Rohese (or Rose) (wife of Hugh de Lacy). He and his wife, Rohese, witnessed a charter of Roger, Earl of Hereford to St. Mary, Monmouth dated 1148-55. In the period, c.1150-60, he granted the monks of Monmouth three forges in his borough of Monmouth on the bank of the Wye in exchange for Hadnock, Monmouthshire. He and his wife, Rohese, granted property to St. Florent Abbey. His wife, Rohese, evidently died before 1166, when Baderon gave a knight's fee to the Hospitallers of Quenington for the soul of his wife, Rohese. BADERON DE MONMOUTH was living in 1169-70. Dugdale Monasticon Anglicanism 2 (1819): 601 (charter dated 1136-38 of Adeliz, uxor Gilberti filii Ricardi to Thorney Abbey). Clutterbuck Hist. & Antiqs. of Hertford 3 (1827): 225-226 (Clare ped.). Lee Hist. of the Town & Parish of Tetbury (1857): 209. Warner & Ellis Facsimiles of Royal & Other Charters in the British Museum 1 (1903): #41 (charter of Baderon de Monmouth dated c.1150-60; charter granted with consent of his sons, Gilbert and James). Cat. of the MSS rel. to Wales in the British Museum 3 (Cymmrodorion Rec. Ser. 4) (1908): 710. Copinger Manors of Suffolk I (1905): 45-46. Stenton Facsimiles of Early Charters from Northamptonshire Colls. (Northamptonshire Rec. Soc. 4) (1930): 52-54. Meale Women & Literature in Britain, 1150-1500 (1996): 17-18. Johns Noblewomen, Aristocracy & Power in the 12th-Cent. Anglo-Norman Realm (2003): 90. Tanner Fams., Friends, & Allies (2004): 316 (Clare ped).
      v. MARGARET FITZ GILBERT, married WILLIAM DE MONTFICHET, of Stansted Montfichet, Essex [see PLAIZ 3].
      vi. ALICE DE TONBRIDGE, married WILLIAM DE PERCY, of Topcliffe, Yorkshire [see PERCY 3].”