Hans Nikolaus Schütz

Bef 1670 -

• Name	Hans Nikolaus Schütz
  Born	Bef 1670	of Geisenbach, Mörlenbach, Bergstraße, Hessen, Germany
  Gender	Male
  Died	of Ober-Mumbach, Mörlenbach, Bergstraße, Hessen, Germany
  Person ID	I2714	Petersen-de Lanskoy
  Last Modified	27 May 2021

  
  

  Family	Maria Margaretha Römer,   b. 18 Nov 1674, Geisenbach, Mörlenbach, Bergstraße, Hessen, Germany ,   d. of Ober-Mumbach, Mörlenbach, Bergstraße, Hessen, Germany
  Married	Bef 1692	of Geisenbach, Mörlenbach, Bergstraße, Hessen, Germany
  Last Modified	28 May 2021
  Family ID	F1506	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  RESEARCH_NOTES: 1. FHL book 943.D2dg, vol. 175, "Deutsches Geschlechtebuch/Hessisches Geschlechterbuch," by Hermann Thutewohl, (1977), pp. 252-255, provides a study of Hessian Römers which includes our American branch as follows. The same material is found in the "Hessian Lineage Book," vol. 20, 1977, publisher of CA Starke, Limburg an der Lahn. (Translation courtesy of Rose Green.) The book is German which I translate to English. Dates are European style day - month - year. Symbols: * = birth/christening; oo = married; + = death. The numbering system is per the book which I place in [brackets] for clarity: [Vb] Hans Peter Römer, * ... 11. 7. 1642, + Geisenbach 21. 3. 1730, bur. Weinheim 23. 3. 1730; named "the old Römer," owner of a "Hof" (farm/land with buildings) in Geisenbach; oo ... 20. 1. 1671 Margarethe Reinig, * ..., + Geisenbach 3. 2. 1719. Children born in Geisenbach: 1. Anna, * (calculated) 1671, + ..., Godmother on 22. 1. 1685. 2. Margarethe, * (calculated) 1673, + ..., oo ... Johann Nikolaus Schütz from Geisenbach (?), * ..., + ... 3. Maria Margarethe, * 18. 11. 1674, + ..., Godmother on 10. 11. 1691; oo ... Hans Nikolaus Schuh from Geisenbach (?), * ..., + ... 4. Johannes, * 10. 1. 1678, [s. VIb] 5. Johann Jakob, * 13. 11. 1681, [s. VIc, Schwetzinger main branch] 6. Eva, * 7. 2. 1685, + ... 7. Eva Elisabeth, * 8. 5. 1687, + ... 8. Anna Barbara, * 6. 5. 1688, + ...; oo ... 17. 11. 1705 ... moved to Schimbach. 9. Gertrud, * 26. 5. 1690, + ... 1758; oo ... Johann Jakob Brecht from Ober Mumbach, * ..., + ... My comments: In the above family grouping we see two Margarets (#2 and #3) married to men of very similar names: Margarethe, b. abt 1673, married to Johann Nikolaus Schutz of Geisenbach, son of Hans Nikolaus Schütz of Geisenbach, about 1692 and had three children whose births are recorded in the Lutheran church book of Wald-Michelbach for Birkenau as well as the Familienbuch Moerlenbach. Her son was godfather to Johann Michael Roemer of Birkenau (the son of Johannes Roemer). Johann Nikolaus Schutz of Geisenbach was godfather to another of Johannes Roemer's children, Johann Nikolaus (1712). The record explicitly says that this man is the brother-in-law of Johannes Roemer.  Maria Margarethe, b. 18 Nov 1674, was a godmother on 10 Nov 1691 (where? -- the book above doesn't list it), and married "Hans Nikolaus Schuh of Geisenbach." She looks very much like the other Margarethe to me. In a place with a population of less than 100 people, are there really two different individuals named Hans Nikolaus Schuh and Hans Nikolaus Schütz, both married to Margaretha Römer? Most likely the same person. 2. Entry #199 of the Birkenau, Kreis Heppenheim, Hessen Lutheran church book: Den 3. September [1715] ist gebohren und den 5. ejusdem getaufft worden Johann Michael, ein Söhnlein Johann Römers, Rothgerbergs und Gerichtsschöppens allhier, und seiner ehel. Haußfrau Catharinen. Gevatter war Hanß Michael Schütz, Hanß Nicol Schützes zu Geisenbach ehel. und annach lediger Sohn. [Translation: On the 3rd of September was born and on the 5th was baptized Johann Michael Römer, a little son of Johann Römer, red tanner (a tanner's dyer) and judge of this area, and his wife Catharina. Godfather was Hanß Michael Schütz, legitimate and unmarried son of Hanß Nicol Schütz of Geisenbach. (Note: Hanß Nicol Schütz was married to Johannes Römer's sister Margaretha, meaning that Johann Michael's godfather was also his cousin. Hanß Michael Schütz was born 5 Aug 1696 in Obermumbach.)] BIRTH: 1. Estimate based on being age 21 or older at time of estimated marriage.