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  • Name Pieter Grosch or Crush 
    Gender Male 
    Person ID I3805  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Family Anna Eva Saltz 
    Married Bef 1764  of Caughnawaga, Tryon (now Montgomery), New York, United States. Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F1862  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. The book "Compendium of Mohawk Valley Families," by Marily Penrose, p. 324: Birth/baptism - Grosch, Peter and Anna Eva (Saltz): Franciscus, bpt. 5/13/1764 (DRC:11). Sponsors: Franciscus Saltz and Sophia Frederick. [Sponsors would have been Anna's father and sister.] Note same source also notes a death of Franciscus Groutch, d. 2/26/1816, Columbia, age 49 years; buried (not stated) (RDH:272).

      2. Records of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Caughnawaga, now the Reformed Church of Fonda, in the village of Fonda, Montgomery County, N.Y. New York, unknown, 1917, 748 pp.: Franciscus, offspring of Pieter Grosch and Anna Eva Saltz, baptized 13 May 1764 with sponsors Franciscus Saltz and Sophia Frederick. [Sophia would be Anna's sister; Franciscus is probably Sophia's and Anna's father or maybe a brother?]

      3. The book "Our Van Horne Kindred," by Elsie O. Hallenback, 1958, copy in the Montgomery County NY Archives:
      "Cornelius Van Horne, oldest child of Mathias Van Horne and Nelly Crumm, was born in Upper Freehold, NJ on March 10, 1745. When a young man he came to Warrensbush, Tryon Co., NY where he worked for Philip Frederick who had a grist mill and saw mill at Mill Point, along the Schoharie Creek. Philip Frederick was the son of Peter Frederick, a Palatine who had been driven out of south-west Germany during a religious persecution, and emigrated to Mill Point where he settled and raised his family. Accoriding to the records of the old Dutch Reformed Church of Schoharie, NY, he and Sophia Saltz, daughter of Francis Saltz, were registered for marriage on Nov. 11, 1752.
      Francis Saltz was another early settler along the Schoharie Creek, about five miles above its entrance into the Mohawk River. In heh History of Montgomery County, it states 'that one Francis Saltz and Cornelius (Boss) Putman purchased the Shucksburg Patent of 1200 acres of land along the Schoharie Creek, Mr. Saltz taking the half farthest up the creek, and Mr. Putman the lower half. Mr. Saltz later on sold part of this land to his son-in-law by the name of McCreavy; another part to his son-in-law named Young; another part to Philip Frederick, a fourth part to Michael Marlett and the remaining 200 acres he deeded to Peter Crush [Grosch] if he would marry his crippled daughter who had never been able to walk. Mr. Crush accepted this offer, and after building a home on the land, carried his wife to it on his back.'
      ...Mr. Saltz was a very kind-hearted man and when Mr. and Mrs. Coss, the parents of a neighboring family both died suddenly, he took the children into his home until they grew up. When he was about ninety years old, he married one of these orphaned girls and invited the whole neighborhood to the wedding. About a year later, his bride eloped with his hired man, taking all his silver money which he had hidden in a small hair trunk. This trunk is still in possession of his family..."

      4. The book "History of Montgomery and Fulton Counties, N.Y.," reprinted 2002 (originally printed in the 1880s): "The Development of Business Centers [in Glen Township]... Mill Point, on Schoharie creek, was another collection of houses, and necessarily a business centre in early times. A German of some means, named Francis Saltz, having settled on the east bank of the creek, about the middle of the last century, joined with one 'Boss' Putman in purchasing the Shucksburg patent of 1200 acres, across the creek in the present town of Glen. Saltz took the half of the patent furthest up stream, from which he sold the site of Mill Point to a son-in-law named McCready. The next farm back of this to another son-in-law, George Young; a third farm to his grandson, Francis Frederick, and a fourth to Michael Marlett, who married Peggy Frederick. The 200 acres remaining Saltz offered to deed to Peter Crush [or Grosch], if the latter would marry his youngest daughter, a cripple, unable to walk. Crush accepted the offer, and having built a house on the tract, carried his wife to it on his back. They spent their days on the place, and left it to their only son, Francis..."

      5. Henry Z. Jones, "Even More Palatine Families, 18th Century Immigrants to the American Colonies and their German, Swiss and Austrian Origins," 2002, p. 217:
      "Peter Gross.
      Peter Kross was on a tax list of Mohawk in 1766 ("Upstate New York in the 1760s," by Florence Christoph, p. 127). Pieter Grosch and wife Anna Eva Saltz had among their ch.:
      1) Franciscus, bpt. 13 May 1764 - sp: Franciscus Saltz and Sophia Frederich (Caughnawaga Reformed Chbk.)

      SOURCES_MISC:
      1. Henry Z. Jones is the author of three series of books on the Palatines: "The Palatine Families of New York: A Study of the German Immigrants Who arrived in New York in 1710," (1985); "More Palatine Families," (1991); and "Even More Palatine Families, 18th Century Immigrants to the American Colonies and their German, Swiss and Austrian Origins," 2002. I have reviewed all three and the very little I find is quoted above.