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1. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 52, July 2003, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 24-26, [article includes scanned images of the actual documents]. The editor notes: "The translations of the Old English below were done quickly and the main effort was to try to retain the gist of the information rather than spending a lot of time trying to decipher every word.
"Court Records Relating To Will of John Richardson, (Surry County, Virginia Orders 1744-1749, page 387. Surry Court 20 Oct. 1747): 'The last will & Testament of John Richardson dec'ed was presented in Court by Elizabeth Richardson, widow & relict of the said John & Executrix therein named who made oath thereto according to Law and the same was proved by the Oaths of Samuel Maget & Olive Mangum the witnesses thereto and by the Court order'd to be recorded and on the motion of the said Executor a Certificate is granted her for obtaining a Probate thereof in due Form. Order'd that Samuel Maget, Benjamin Ellis, Thomas Alsobrooke, James Nicolson or any three of them being first Sworn before Robert Gray gentl? Do appraised in current money the 'slaves & Personal Estate of John Richardson dec'ed and returned the appraisement to the next Court.' (EDITOR'S NOTE: We believe that one of John & Olive Mangum's daughters married into the Richardson family. On 26 Jan. 1752 Zilpah, son of Arthur Richardson and wife Mary was christened with Olave Mangum as one of the godparents in the Albemarle Parish, Surry Co., VA.)"
2. This daughter is speculative and not proven. There are two documents that lead us to this speculation. First, when the father John died, his children were noted in plural as orphans in the orphan's court. Second, Olive, the mother, is noted as a godparent at the birth of the offspring of this daughter - a godparent can be grandparents but not necessarily always. These two documents are as follows:
A. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 51, January 2003, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 13-15, article includes scanned images of the actual documents: This Part 9 [of a series in the Journal] of the old Virginia records continues to delve more deeply into the records of the second John Mangum (II) of Virginia... [This record shows that John who died in 1744 had children of which the individual of this database would probably have been one.]:
Orphans of John Mangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1744-1749, page 323, 16 June 1747 Court): 'Ordered That the Church Warden of Albemarle Parish bond out the Orphans of John Mangum according to Law.' (Editor's Comments: The... record concerns the Orphans of John Mangum. This shows that John Mangum (II) had children and they or at least some of them were minors in 1747. Oh, how do we wish they had been named! ED.)"
B. Issue No. 1 "Mangum Family Bulletin," March 1969:
"Register of Albemarle Parish, Surry & Sussex Counties, Virginia 1739-1778." Gertrude R. B. Richards, ed. Printed by the University Press of Virginia
29. ( )hn, son of Wm. Huler and wife Selah; born Apr. 6, c. May 19, 1754; gdpts Thos Atkinson, Olave Mangum, Lydia Dinkens.
30. Elizabeth, dau. of Robt. Purrier and wife Frances; born Jun. 10, c. Aug. 19, 1753; gdpts Wm. Carril, Wm. Waller, Olave Mangum
31. Zilpah, son of Arthur Richardson and wife Mary; born Dec. 10, 1751, c. Jan. 26, 1752; gdpts Robert Priorm, Mary Waller, Olave Mangum
32. Selah, dau. of Wm. Hulen and wife Selah; born May 10, c. Jun. 14, 1752; gdpts Robert Pryor, Olave Mangum, Frances Pryor.
Editor's Note: c. is abbreviation for christened; gdpts for godparents. Godparents are sometimes aunts and uncles of the children being christened.
3. Additional comments from other researchers on the same subject:
A. The book "The Mangums of Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas, and Utah and Adjoining States," by John T. Palmer, Santa Rosa, 1992, FHL film 1697868, pp. 4-5, issue of John Mangum and Frances Mangum, first Child: " John Mangum, b. ca. 1703, Albemarle Parish, Surry Co., VA, m. Olive Savidge, dau. of Robert Savage. His [John Mangum's] estate was administered 20 Dec 1744, Surry Co., VA, by Olive Savidge Mangum, m. bef. 6 Oct 1728 who was godparent to four children born in the Albemarle Parish of Surry Co., VA. Parents of these godChildren included William Huler (Hulen) and wife, Selah; Robert Purrier (Pryor/Prior) and wife Frances; and Arthur Richardson and wife, Mary. [Kerry's note: see Olive Savidge's database for my comment and belief that John Palmer is in error believing Olive Savidge who married John Mangum was the daughter of Robert Savidge and not Lovelis Savidge.]
B. Website of Lynn Parham at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/lynn.parham/savidge.htm: "We believe John Mangum Jr., son of the immigrant John Mangum, married Olive Savidge. She was apparently a daughter of Robert Savidge of Surry Co., Virginia. In his will of 1697 he names his sons Charles and Lovelis and his daughter Olive. The 1728 will of Loveless Savidge mentions an Olive Manggum. John Mangum Jr. died in 1744 and his estate was administered by Olive Mangum. Olive was a godparent to several children in the Albemarle Parish, Surry Co., Virginia after John's death. We suspect those children were Olive & John's grandchildren. We also suspect that another child was John Mangum (John III) who moved to Mecklenburg Co., Virginia. His son, John, was a Revolutionary War patriot. His descendants were the subject of a book by Mrs. Delta Ivy Mangum Hale." [Kerry's note: Lynn appears to have later changed his mind from the above quote as to Olive Mangum being the daughter Robert Savidge - see the notes in this database for Olive Savidge.]
4. Birth from LDS Ordinance Index with no documentation; in fact, they had Albemarle County which many mistake for Albemarle Parish within Surry then Sussex County.
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