| Notes |
- RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. "The Carr Family Records: Embacing [sic] the Record of the First Families who ... - Edson Irving Carr - Google Books." The Carr Family Records: Embacing [sic] the Record of the First Families who ... - Edson Irving Carr - Google Books. N.p., n.d. Web. 14 Dec. 2014. Website: http://books.google.com/books?id=OEE5AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA1&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false accessed 23 Jan 2015.
MARRIAGE:
1. John Winner apparently had two marriages.
The first marriage is per "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson: "Winner, John, Northampton, and Hannah Carr, Northampton, 1776 April 1." According to "The Carr Book," by Arthur R. Carr, 1947, Hannah was b. 10 Sep 1759 to Caleb Carr and she died 9 Aug 1778 in Mt. Holly (Northampton) in childbirth when their son Samuel was born 9 Aug 1778. The Carr book says he died three days later. The marriage was apparently out of Quaker meeting because we find in FHL book 974.961 K2m v.1 "Early Church Records of Burlington County, New Jersey," by Charlotte D. Meldrum, a reference to only one Winner in the entire book, which is in the Minutes of Mount Holly Monthly Meeting. "5th da, 4th mo, 1777... Hannah Winner, produced a paper acknowledging trouble of mind, for going out in marriage." We also find Hannah's father Caleb with 250 acres in the same area in which Abraham (but no other Winners) live (per Rootsweb accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Burlington County NJ - NJGenWeb; Early Tax List - Northampton Township, 1779"). The Carr book reports indicates he died 11 Sep 1783 and his buried next to his daughter. In any case this all places John Winner in Northampton just prior to his being in Great Egg Harbor.
John's second marriage is to Millicent Mapes for whom we have on record a will (and codicil) naming her three sons. We also have on record a will for her father Joseph Mapes in which he names his dau. Millicent Winner, his son-in-law John Winner, and his grandson Joseph Winner. Joseph Mapes was prominent in the Quaker community of Great Egg Harbor. John and Millicent has three sons: John, Joseph, and Amos. We have the following marriage records for two of these three sons (nothing found on Amos). FHL film 1425085, it. 6, "Gloucester County, New Jersey, Marriage Records," by H. Stanley Craig, 1930:
-Joseph Winner and Millicent Caveller, 2-2-1803.
-John Winner and Abigail Doughty, 5-9-1812.
-(As a side note, the same marriage records also has "Samuel Winner and Mary Thorn, 3-30-1813." Could it be John's son Samuel from his marriage to Hannah Carr who did not perhaps die three days after his mother as "The Carr Book" would have us believe? Assuming an age of 21 at marriage, then Samuel would have to be born no later than 1792 which works with John and Hannah's son. I am not aware of any other Samuel in the second generation of our New Jersey Winners. More research needed to see if he could possibly a third generation of one of the three NJ Winners.)
2. 20 May 2007 web posting from Karen Winner : "At Swarthmore Quaker Archives I found a card that lists the children of Caleb Carr and his wife Sarah. There were 8 kids listed. Mary, Job, Samuel, Isaac, Hannah, Samuel, Sarah & Rebeckah. What's interesting about this is that there are two Samuels. The first Samuel was born in 1754 and lives until 1832. Hannah was born in 1759 and died in 1778. But the second Samuel, listed after her, has no dates listed for birth or death. This could mean that this was Hannah's son and they both died in childbirth? Though when I first saw this card I took it to mean that the child ended up living with her parents. Why I thought that I don't know!"
|
Chris & Julie Petersen's Genealogy
1759 - 1778 (18 years)