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Samuel Mangum

Male Abt 1711 - 1777  (~ 66 years)


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  • Name Samuel Mangum 
    Born Abt 1711  of, Isle of Wight, Virginia, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 1777  Granville, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I255  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father John Mangum,   b. Abt 1670, of, , England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 26 Dec 1737, Upper Parish, Isle of Wight, Virginia, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 67 years) 
    Mother Frances Bennett,   b. From 1670 to 1680, Upper Parish, Isle of Wight, Virginia, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1737, , Isle of Wight, Virginia, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 68 years) 
    Married Abt 1696  of, Isle of Wight, Virginia, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F227  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth,   b. Bef 1730, of, , Virginia, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1758, , Granville, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age > 28 years) 
    Married Bef 1750  of, , North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F228  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. Per notes below, James L. Parham in his Journal as quoted below, purports Samuel as a grandson of John Mangum the Immigrant by John's son William Mangum Sr. I am not opposed to this, but I need better birth dates of Samuel vs William Sr. to make this fit.

      2. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 51, January 2003, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 13-15, article includes scanned images of the actual documents: This Part 9 [of a series in the Journal] of the old Virginia records continues to delve more deeply into the records of the second John Mangum (II) of Virginia and continues into some of John II's siblings. We, of course, have no absolute proof that these Mangums were children of John Mangum the immigrant, but that is the most reasonable theory at present.
      "INDENTURE of LEASE & RELEASE Between John& Olive Mangum and ZACHARIAH MADERE, (Surry County, Virginia Order Book 1741-1744, page 87. Court date 16 Feb. 1742): 'Indentures of Lease & Release between John Mangum and Olive his wife of the one part and Zachariah Madere of the other part were acknowledged by the sd [said] John and Olive and by the Court Ordered to be recorded previous to which the sd Olive was privily Examined as the Law Directs.' (EDITOR'S NOTE: Appears to be related to land dealings between the Mangums and Mr. Madere.) (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record above is an indenture of Lease and Release between John Mangum (& Olive his wife) and Zachariah Madere. It is apparently related to land sales between the parties. This record is significant in that it specifically calls Olive the wife of John Mangum.)"
      "Thomas JONES AGAINST Samuel Mangum (DEFENDANT), (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1744-1749 Court, page 24, 20 Feb. 1744/5): 'Thomas Jones, Plt, Against Samuel Mangum, Deft. In Debt. This Day came as well the Plt by his attorney as the Deft in his Proper Person And the sd Deft. Saith That he cannot gainsay the Plts Action [1702]? But that he oweth the Debt in the Declaration mentioned amounting to Eight Pounds Six shillings Therefore it is considered that the Plt recover the same against the sd Deft. Together with his Cofts? By him in this behalf Expended and the sd Deft in Mercy & ?' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record above concerns a debt by Samuel Mangum. We believe this is the Samuel Mangum that appears in the North Carolina records with William Mangum (Sr.) as early as 1751. It is obvious that Samuel was an adult in Feb. 1745. The date "20 Feb. 1744/45" is actually 1745 as we reckon the date in modern times. Apparently Samuel, and William Sr. and others of the family had quite a few debt problems in Virginia. This may have been the incentive to move to North Carolina in the latter part of the 1740s.)"
      William Mangum ON JURY FOR ASSAULT & BATTERY CASE, (Surry County, Virginia Orders 1744-1749, Page 70, 18 July, 1745 Court). (EDITOR'S NOTE: The text of this court suit is not pertinent to Mangum genealogy, except for possibly the Jurors who may figure in other Mangum records. They are Bartholomew Figures, Thomas Washington, Robert Nicholson, William Gillain, Benjamin Jordan, William Owen, John Jeby?, William Mangum, Charles Lucas, John Nicholson, Henry Collier, gr? Thomas Gray.) (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record above concerns an assault and battery case in which William Mangum was one of the jurors. This only shows that William was still in Virginia in July 1745 and had not yet migrated to North Carolina.)"
      William Mangum ON GRAND JURY, (Jury of Grand, Surry County, VA Orders, 1741-1744, page 184, 16 Nov. 1743): 'Lewis Delany Forman, Richard Jones, John Justice, Joseph Delk, William Newsum Junr?, Thomas Davidson, William Evans, William Mangum, Thomas Washington, William Clinch, Peter Hawthorn, Henry Mitchell, Thomas Vines, John Goodwyn, Silvanus? Stokes, Stephen Hamblin & James Price were Sworn a Jury of Grand their charge withdrew And Soon after returned into Court and made the following presentments:
      ag? John Edmunds for not going to Church.
      The overseer of the road from Blands Road to the Bowling Ally Road for not keeping it in Sufficient repair.
      Judith Pitts for having two Bastard children at birth
      Mary Green for having a Bastard child - - - -
      and then having no other matter before them were by the Court discharged.' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record above concerns a Grand Jury session in which William Mangum was one of the jurors. It shows that William was in Virginia in 1743. It also has some interesting indictments that you might want to read.)"
      Olive Mangum ADMINISTRATOR of John Mangum'S Estate, (Surry County, Virginia Orders 1744-1749, Page 58, June Court, 1745): 'On the Petition of James Nicholson and William Mangum Thereby Sitting forth That they the sd Peititioners became bound to this Court as Securities of Olive Mangum for her due - - Administration of the Estate of John Mangum deced and apprehending themselves to be in Imminent Danger of being Demnified Prayed relief in the Premisses Where upon after hearing as well the sd Petitioners as the sd Olive It is ordered and Decreed That the sd Olive Deliver up the sd Estate to the sd Petitioners or give them good and sufficient security to Indemnific them in the premises.' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record concerns Olive Mangum as administrator of John Mangum (II)'s estate. It appears that her securities, William Mangum and James Nicholson, were about to be out some money because of some irregularities in Olive's handling of John Mangum's estate. The court ordered Olive to release the estate to the petitioners or give them enough security (money or property probably) to cover the impending liability on James Nicholson & William Mangum. We believe, by circumstantial evidence, that John Mangum (II) (the deceased) was a son of John Mangum(I) the immigrant, and William Mangum was John (II)'s brother.)"
      ORPHANS of John Mangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1744-1749, page 323, 16 June 1747 Court): 'Ordered That the Church Warden of Albemarle Parish bond out the Orphans of John Mangum according to Law.' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record concerns the Orphans of John Mangum. This shows that John Mangum (II) had children and they or at least some of them were minors in 1747. Oh, how do we wish they had been named! ED.)"
      COURT SUIT AGAINST John Mangum DISMISSED, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751, Page 147, 16 Oct. 1750 Court): 'Judith Binns Execowr? of Charles Binns gent Deced Plt (In Law) against John Mangum Deft. Ordered that this Suit abate by the Deft's Death.' (EDITOR'S Comments: The... record concerns some type of court suit against John Mangum (II). The suit was dismissed because John had died.)"

      3. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 52, July 2003, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 24-26, article includes scanned images of the actual documents. These several documents show that both William, Sr. and Samuel left Virginia about the same time for North Carolina with evidently some debts left in Virginia in the process. The editor notes: "The translations of the Old English below were done quickly and the main effort was to try to retain the gist of the information rather than spending a lot of time trying to decipher every word.
      "____* VS Samuel Mangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1744-1749 Court, page 266, 18 Feb. 1746): '(Ed. note: I cannot decipher this name, if it is a name) Plt Against Samuel Mangum Carpenter Deft. In Debt. The Deft being removed & not an inhabitant of this County. It is ordered That this Suit abate.' (EDITOR'S NOTE: The ???? vs Samuel Mangum record shows that Samuel Mangum had left Surry County, Virginia by 18 Feb. 1746. We presently believe that Samuel was probably a son of William Mangum Sr. and William and his family were in North Carolina by June 1748, but probably not before 1747. We wonder where Samuel was during the interim.)"
      "William Mangum VS John HOLT, (Surry County, Virginia Orders 1744-1749, Page 415, 19 Jan., 1747 Court): 'John Holt, Plt Agt William Mangum & Charles Clary Deft. In Debt. Discontinued the Plt failing to Prosecute. (Editor's Note: We don't think William had left the state before June 1747.)"
      "ATTACHMENT of William Mangum Estate byJohnRUFFIN, (Surry County, VA Orders, 1744-1749, page 463, 21 June. 1748. A secondary reference has 18 May 1748): 'Upon the attachment obtained by John Ruffin gentl. Against the Estate of William Mangum who hath privately removed himself or so ____that the ordinary process of law cannot be served on him for a debt of six pounds eighteen shillings and two pence due from him to the Plt. This day came the Plt in his property?____ and the Sheriff read a return? that virtue of the said writ to him directed he had attached the effects of the said Defend't in the hands of Humphrey Bailey and had ____ the said Bailey to appear on this day to Render account thereof and that he had attached one Loan?, whereupon the said Defend't at the Solemnly called came not but made Default by means whereof the Plt remains thereof against him underfunded and thereupon the said garnishe being sworn to discover what goods and chattels Right of Law ___ he had or non hath in his hands or possession belongings to the Deft Declared that he had of non hath in his hands as aforesaid Seven pounds one Shilling of nine pence and no more and the Plt having made oath to the ___ of his aforesaid Demand. It is therefore considered by the court that he recover the same against the said Deft together with his costs by him in this behalf responded? To be served of the said seven pounds one shilling and nine pence so as aforesaid in the hands of the sd Humphrey Bailey and the aforesaid ____ which the Sheriff is ordered to sell by way of Public Auction to the highest bidder or bidders for ready money and pay the same over to the Plt towards satisfying him his aforesaid Debt____.' (Editor's Note: Obviously William Mangum had left the County, presumably to North Carolina, by this date, 18 May 1748. William is definitely in N.C. by June 1748. William & Samuel Mangums both seem to have had debt problems and this might have provided an added incentive for them to migrate to new territory.)"
      "ATTACHMENT of Estate of William Mangum byThomas PRITLOW (Part 1), (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1744-1749, page 475, 21 June 1748 Court): 'The attachment obtained by Thomas Pritlow against the Estate of William Mangum who hath privately removed himself or so absconded that the ordinary Process of Law cannot be served on him for a Debt of three pounds eighteen Shillings and five pence for ____ due from the said Defend't to the Plt. This Day came the Plt and the Sheriff having made ____ that by the virtue of the aforesaid writ to him ____ he had attached all the Estate that was in the hands of Joseph Jeffries, Edmund Barrow, Thomas Bell and Jonathan Ellis belonging to the said Mangum and has summoned the said garnishes to appear at this Day to render? Account thereof whereupon they being respectively Solemnly called the aforesaid. (Editor's Note: It is probable that this record was continued on the next page in the original document. Again, this is also further evidence of William's debt problems prior to his migration to N.C.)"
      "ATTACHMENT of Estate of William Mangum byThomas PRITLOW (Part 2), (Surry Co., VA Orders 1744-1749, page 493, 16 Aug. 1748 Court): 'The attachment obtained by Thomas Pritlow against the Estate of William Mangum, Beuford Pleasant one of the garnishers on this attachment personally appeared and being sworn Discovered that he hath in his hand Nine Shillings and Eleven Pence Current Money belonging to the said Defendt Thereupon It is ordered That the said Pleasant pay the same over to the Plt towards Satisfying him his Judgment obtained against him the said Defendant in June last. And the said attachment as to the other garnishers is continued till the next Court.'"
      "COURT SUIT AGAINST William Mangum DISMISSED, (Surry Co., VA Orders 1744-1749, Page 570, 21 June 1749 Court): 'The attachment obtained by Thomas Pritlow agt the Estate of William Mangum the process? Continued agt the Garnishes is now? Ordered to be discontinued.'"
      "Samuel Mangum VS Agnes Washington, (Surry Co., VA Orders 1749-1751, Page 155, 16 Oct. 1750 Court): 'On the petition & summon brought by Samuel Mangum Ptl against Agnis Washington Deft This day came the parties by their attorneys & the said Deft says that she is nothing indebted to the Plt, the Plt joins the ___ of the cause is continued till the next court.' (Editor's Note: Samuel was almost certainly in North Carolina at this time. Apparently it was only Samuel's attorney who attended the court, not Samuel himself.)"
      "Samuel Mangum VS Agnes Washington, (Surry Co., VA Orders 1749-1751, Page 214, 21 May 1751 Court): 'Samuel Mangum Plaintiff - Agness Washington Deft. By petition for ___ by account. The parties were heard by their attornies whereupon It is considered that the Plt petition be dismissed and that the Deft go ___ without ___ and recover agt the Plt her costs by her in this behalf expended.' Note: The Court Valued the building the house mentioned in the Plts' account to forty shillings & no more and it appear'd that the Deft had paid him thirty Shillings at the Deft's mothers by her attorney was order'd to be enter'd at the feet of the above Judgment.' (Editor's Note: This is the court suit began the past year, and was dismissed. Samuel was again represented only by his attorney. Samuel in North Carolina was a carpenter by trade and this record indicates that he also did carpenter work while he was in Virginia.)"
      "Samuel Mangum VS Agnes Washington, (Surry Co., VA Orders 1749-1751, Page 216, 21 May. 1751 Court): 'Upon the motion of Herod Clary a witness for Agness Washington at the suit of Samuel Mangum It is ordered that she pay him four hundred & ___ pounds of ___ Tobo for five days attendance at the court and for coming ___ sixty miles & returning according to law.' (Editor's Note: Here it appears that Agness Washington had to pay Herod Clary a lot of tobacco (a common medium of exchange during that era for being a witness for her in Samuel Mangum's suit against her.)"
      "William Mangum VS Joseph JEFFRIES, (Surry Co., VA Orders 1744-1749, Page 540, 18 April 1749 Court): 'The petition and summon brought by William Mangum against Joseph Jeffries is Dismissed the Plt failing to prosecute.' (Editor's Note: William was in North Carolina at this time.)"

      4. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 53, January 2004, (formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"), James L. Parham, editor, pp. 21-25, [article includes scanned images of the actual documents]: "Below we have a few more of the old Virginia Records relating to William Mangum (Sr.) and other children of John Mangum the immigrant.
      Summary
      There is nothing of major importance in these records, but they do show the continuing presence in Virginia of two sons of John the immigrant (William Sr. & James) and a son of William Sr. (Samuel) [Kerry's note: is this correct - should this be Samuel, the brother to William Sr. and James?]. William's appraisal of Arthur Sherrod's estate in 1747 was very close to the time he and his family moved on to North Carolina. The suit of Judith Binns against John Mangum was dismissed because John had died. This was obviously the younger John Mangum (John Jr.?), husband to Olive Savidge. John had died in 1744.
      For some reason, in one record, the court was asked to rule on the ages of various young negroes. I assume these were slaves. I have no idea why the court would be involved. Possibly it had to do with taxes. The page had several cases in which the court ruled on the ages of various negroes. (EDITOR'S NOTE: My apologies for not being politically correct here. I have tried to use the original terminology for accuracy.) Obviously James Mangum had at least one slave. James' will in 1783 named several slaves.
      The suit of Herod Clany vs Agness Washington is a holdover from last issue [of the Journal] where there were several court records of Samuel Mangum against Agnes Washington.
      John ELLIS AGAINST AMOS NEWSOM, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1744-1749 Court, page 70, 18 July 1745): The text of the court suit is not relevant to Mangum genealogy except for the fact that William Mangum was one of the jurors.
      COURT ORDER FOR APPRAISING ARTHUR SHERROD'S Estate, (Surry County, Virginia Orders 1744-1749, page 313. Surry Court 16 June. 1747); APPRAISAL of ARTHUR SHERROD'S Estate, (Surry Co. Deeds Wills, Etc. 1738-1754, page 559, BK 9. 21 July 1747): 'Ordered That Augustine Hargrove, Charles Holt, John White & William Mangum or any Three of them being first Sworn Do appraise in Current Money the slaves and Personal Estate of Arthur Sherrod Deceased, and return the appraisment to the next Court.' The wording of the inventory is not significant to Mangum genealogy, except for the signature of Wm Mangum. This is not his handwriting however since all the handwriting, including the signatures, are of the clerk who recorded it.
      James Mangum ON A JURY, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 563, 20 June. 1749). The text of the court suit between Nicholas Maggett and Samuel Maggett against the widow Ann Maggett is not relevant to Mangum genealogy except for James Mangum being on the jury.
      JUDITH BINNS AGAINST John Mangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 147, 16 Oct. 1750): 'Judith Binns Exec_s Vis? Of Charles Binns Gent Dece'd Plt) Against John Mangum, Deft.'
      NEGRO of James Mangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 20, 17 Oct. 1749): 'Dinah a negroe Girl belonging to James Mangum was by the Court adjudged to be eleven Years old.'
      James Mangum VS Thomas ELDRIDGE I, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 106, 19 June 1750: 'James Mangum, Plt Agt Thomas Eldridge gent adm Vis of Thomas King Dec'd Deft. This Day came the Plt by his attorney and the Deft being arrested and now called in? of appearing by means where of the ___ - main thereof against him and? Defended therefore it [is ] ___ ordered by the Court that the Plt recover against the said Deft his damages by him sustained by occasion of the ____ to be ascertained by a jury at the next court.'
      James Mangum VS Thomas ELDRIDGE II, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 225, Date 1751??): 'James Mangum Plt . Vs. Thomas Eldridge Admins Vis? Of Thomas King dec'd Deft. Conditional order confirmed (conformed) same form as Hamlin ag't Mooring page 22A. (EDITOR'S NOTE: The case on page 22A was not copied but I assume this case was settled in the same way as the case of Hamlin against Mooring.)'
      HEROD CLANY VS AgnesS Washington RE Samuel Mangum, (Surry County, Virginia Orders, 1749-1751 Court, page 216, 21 May 1751): 'Upon the motion of Herod Clany a witness for Agness Washington at the Suit of Samuel Mangum It is order'd that she pay him four hundred & ____ pounds of Natl? Tobo [Tobacco] for two days attendance at this Court and for coming ___ a Sixty Miles & returning according to law.' "

      5. Per website http://home.inu.net/sadie/index.htm for father John Magnum. See his notes for full and lengthy text of wills, deeds, bio. info, and misc. info which includes mention of this individual. "Samuel, Born Alb. Par., Surry, Va circa 1708, Died: 1777 Greenville, SC (Intestate Rec) Bk 1, P 136- Granville Co (1777) - Acctg. of Est. of Samuel Mangum, Dec'd, by Commissioners, John Oliver, James Langston, Littleton Mapp. (1/3 to Widow, unnamed and 2/3 to Children, unnamed)." [Kerry's note: This is confusing as to his source - Is it Greenville Co., South Carolina or Granville Co., North Carolina - There is no Granville county in South Carolina.] References: 17th Century Isle of Wight, (Boddie); Virginia Historical Families (Boddie); Southside Virginia Families (Boddie); Isle of Wight Co.,Va Deeds (Hopkins); Surry Co., Va Deeds & Crt. Orders (Hopkins); Isle of Wight Deeds (Eliza T. Davis); Surry Co. Deeds & Wills, (Davis); Wills & Adms. IOW Co. (Chapman); Cavaliers & Pioneers, Vols I & II (Nugent); LDS Records.

      6. FHL Film 1697868 and book "The Mangums of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas, Utah, and Adjoining States," by John T. Palmer, Ph.D. Santa Rosa, CA 95409, 1993, 3rd ed., p. 97: "Samuel Mangum b. ca 1722 in Albemarle Parish, Surry Co., VA, may have married Elizabeth ___.[219]"
      Footnote 219: "Boddie, John B., 'Births, Deaths, and Sponsors 1717-1778 from the Albemarle Parish Register of Surry and Sussex Counties, Virginia,' Second Edition, Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1964, p. 91."

      7. "George Addison Mangum Collection," FHL film 2056024 with copy of a family group sheet of John and Frances Bennett Mangum on file, indicates Samuel was godparent to James Mangum Jr. (son of this James) b. 22 Jan 1743. He notes that presumably James would be of age therefore to be born before 1723 or earlier to have a son.

      8. The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal; Issue Number 60, October 2007, by James L. Parham:
      A. Granville Co., N.C. land grant and tax list images below from the N.C. Archives in Raleigh, N.C. through the efforts of Judith Ryston, paid researcher. Her E-mail is indyjudy@bellsouth.net .The land grant items were found in microfilm of Sec. of State Land Grant Record Books, 1693- 1960, North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh":
      a. No. 120 William Mangum Three hundred and fifty acres of land in Granville County on both sides of Meltons Creek Beginning at a red Oak on the South side of the said Creek at the ___ a thence running north 220 poles to a black oak at B? thence West? 250 pole to red oak at C? thence South 220 pole to a tree? Black Oaks at __ thence East to the Beginning. Dated 26th day of April 1751.
      b.. No. 89 William Mangum Two hundred and forty Eight Acres of land in Granville County on both sides of Gunters Creek Beginnina at Alstons corner a poplar on a branch thence running by his line South 50? East 160 pole to a red oak thence East 100 pole to a black jack? thence No 260 pole to a black Jack? thence Wt 160 pole to a Stake in the aforesaid Branch thence down the Brance to the first Station. Dated 11th Day of March 1760.
      c. No. 96 William Mangum Six hundred and forty acres of land in Granville County on the North side of Fishing Creek lying on the Ready branch Beginning at Wallis? corner a white Oak on the aforesaid branch then running down the branch south 35 wst? 104 pole to Alston's corner a white oak thence by his line north 45 wt 182 pole to a white oak thence by Cooper's line No 50 Et 96 pole to a hickory thence by his other line no 35 nt 180 pole to his corner a maple on the Buffaloe Branch thence up the said branch to Bennets line no 35 Et 60 pole thence no. 10 wt 44 pole thence no 15 East 44 pole thence no. 38 East 72 pole to a white Oak thence So 75 East 190 pole by Greens line to a red oak thence by his other line South 18 East 164 pole to his corner a hickory on reedy branch thence down the said branch by his own line to the first Station. Dated 11th day of March 1760.
      d. No 251 Samuel Mangum Six hundred and forty acres of land in Granville County on the South side of Reedy Creek Beginning at a Spanish Oak Standing on the bank of the said creek thence running by Acocks line Nt 580 pole to a black Oak thence north 374 pole to a persimon on the bank of the creek aforesaid thence down the said branch to the Beginning. Dated 10th day of May 1756.
      B. GRANVILLE County, NORTH CAROLINA TAX LIST 1750; A List of Tithables Taken for the year 1750: Wm Mangum & son James & Sollomon Adkisson Boarder - 3; Saml Mangum-1.
      C. GRANVILLE County, NORTH CAROLINA TAX LIST 1753; A List of Tythables Taken for the year 1753 by Samuel Benton: Samuel Manggom -1."

      9. Virginia Court actions (1741-1751) mentioning: John Mangum (II), his wife Olive Savidge, and his orphaned Children; his brothers James, William, and Samuel Mangum; and miscellaneous Savages/Savidges. We know that Olive Savidge had brothers Love/Love Jr./Loveliss and Robert since all three are identified in the 1728 will of Loveliss Sr.. The relationship of the other Savages/Savidges - Benjamin, Henry, William and his wife Mary, and John - is undetermined from these documents and further research is needed. (Henry and Loveliss Savidge are named in the same document which would indicate some type of relationship.)
      From the book "Surry County, Virginia, Court Orders, 1741-1751, An Every Name Index," by T.L.C. Genealogy, PO Box 403369, Miami Beach, FL 33140-1369, 1992, copy in the Walter Cecil Rawls Library in Courtland, Surry, Virginia. Court books are: 1 = 1741-1744; A = 1744-1749; B = 1749 -1751. The second part of the code is the page number and then the month of the court term (in Julian calendar nomenclature). Court books can be seen on FHL films 34129 and 34130 as well as FHL books 975.5562 P2hw (sev. volumes). The following are my brief extractions from the various listed cases:
      James Mangum:
      A-563 Jun 1749 James Mangum on a jury.
      B-020 Oct 1749: Dinah a Negro girl belonging to James Mangum was adjudged to be 8 years old.
      B-106 Jun 1750: James Mangum Plt. vs. Thomas Eldridge Admr. of Thomas King decd.
      B-225 May 1751: James Mangum Plt. vs. Thomas Eldridge Admr. of Thomas King decd.
      John Mangum:
      1-087 Feb 1742/3: Indentures between John Mangum with his wife Olive and Zachariah Madere.
      1-234 Jul 1744: Widow Olive Mangum obtains adminstration over estate of her deceased husband John Mangum with William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties.
      1-235 Jul 1744: Samuel Maget, Robert Judkins, Bartholomew Figures and William Owen swore before Howell Briggs, Gent., to appraise and inventory the slaves and personal estate of John Mangum, decd.
      A-013 Dec 1744: Inventory of estate of John Mangum returned to Court and ordered to be recorded.
      A-058 Jun 1745: William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties of Olive Mangum are concerned about their role and petitions to have the estate turned over to them by Olive Mangum concerning the estate of her decd. husband John Mangum.
      John's Orphans:
      A-323 Jun 1747: "Ordered that the Church Wardens of Albemarle Parish bind out the orphans of John Mangum according to Law."
      Olive Mangum:
      1-087 Feb 1742/3: Indentures between John Mangum with his wife Olive and Zachariah Madere.
      A-058 Jun 1745: William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties of Olive Mangum are concerned about their role and petitions to have the estate turned over to them by Olive Mangum concerning the estate of her decd. husband John Mangum.
      A-387 Oct 1747: Olive Mangum and Samuel Maget are witnesses to the will of John Richardson, decd., presented by Elizabeth Richardson, widow.
      Widow Olive Mangum
      1-234 Jul 1744: Widow Olive Mangum obtains adminstration over estate of her deceased husband John Mangum with William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties.
      Samuel Mangum:
      A-024 Feb 1744/5: Samuel Mangum, deft. in lawsuit by Thomas Jones for debt.
      A-266 Feb 1746/7: Plt. against Samuel Mangum, carpenter, Deft. for debt. Suit abated because Deft. not inhabitant of this County.
      B-214 May 1751: Samuel Mangum, Plt. vs. Agniss Washington Deft. suing for 30 sh. owed for construction of a building. Deft. won.
      B-216 May 1751: Herod Clary, a witness for Agness Washington in the suit of Samuel Mangum, motions for payment from Deft. for his two days in court.
      William Mangum:
      1-184 Nov 1743: William Mangum serving on Jury of Grand Inquest.
      1-234 Jul 1744: Widow Olive Mangum obtains adminstration over estate of her deceased husband John Mangum with William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties.
      A-058 Jun 1745: William Mangum and James Nicholson acting as sureties of Olive Mangum are concerned about their role and petitions to have the estate turned over to them by Olive Mangum concerning the estate of her decd. husband John Mangum.
      A-070 Jul 1745: William Mangum serving on jury.
      A-313 Jun 1747: William Mangum and three others appointed to appraise the slaves and estate of Arthur Sherrod, decd.
      A-415 Jan 1747/8: John Holt Plt. vs. William Mangum & Charles Clary Deft.: Debt.
      A-463 May 1748: Attachment of John Ruffin, Gent., against estate of William Mangum. A Humphrey Bailey also involved.
      A-475-476 Jun 1748: Attachment of Thomas Pritlaw against estate of William Mangum. Effects are in the hands of Joseph Jeffries, Edmund Barrow, Thomas Bell, and Jonathan Ellis. James Nicolson, William Rogers, and Bufort Pleasant names as additional garnishees.
      A-493 Aug 1748: Attachment of Thomas Pritlow against estate of William Mangum. Beuford Pleasant also named as a garnishee.
      A-540 May 1749: William Mangum vs. Joseph Jeffries.
      A-570 Jun 1749: Thomas Pritloe vs the Estate of William Mangum.
      Benjamin Savage:
      A-088 Sep 1745: Benjamin Savage plaintiff vs. Elias George deft. Benj. did not show up and last by default. No type of case given but deft. asked to recover 5 shilling for expenses.
      A-400 Nov 1747: Benjamin Savage to be paid for plank to repair Cyprus Swamp Bridge. Paid with 271 lbs. of tobacco.
      Henry Savage:
      B-203 Apr 1751: Henry Savage, Loveless Savage, James Moore, John Mooring and Lewis Long had garnished an unnamed debtor.
      B-306 Aug 1751: Henry Savage, Loveless Savage, James Moore, John Mooring and Lewis Long had garnished Edward Long. Robert Davis, John Hay and wife Judith (excutrix of Charels Binns dec'd) added as garnishees.
      Love Jr. Savage:
      A-513 Dec 1748: Sale and indenture between Joseph Lancaster and Love Savage Junior.
      Love Savidge:
      B-143 Oct 1750: Judith Binns, exctrx. of Chalres Binns, Gent. vs Love Savidge concerning debt.
      Loveless Savage:
      B-203 Apr 1751: Henry Savage, Loveless Savage, James Moore, John Mooring and Lewis Long had garnished an unnamed debtor.
      B-234 May 1751: Judith Binns, exctrx. of Chalres Binns, Gent. vs Loveless Savage concerning debt.
      B-306 Aug 1751: Henry Savage, Loveless Savage, James Moore, John Mooring and Lewis Long had garnished Edward Long. Robert Davis, John Hay and wife Judith (excutrix of Charels Binns dec'd) added as garnishees.
      Robert Savidge:
      A-438 Apr 1748: Sale and indenture between William George and Robert Savidge.
      B-149 Oct 1750: Judith Binns, exctrx. of Chalres Binns, Gent. vs Robert Savidge concerning promissory note of 38 sh. 8 pence.
      Robert Savage:
      B-196 Apr 1751: Sale and indenture between John Wall with wife Mary and Robert Savage, all of County of Surry.
      William Savage:
      A-016 Jan 1744/5: Indenture of a sale between William Savage and his wife Mary with James Adams.
      William Savidge:
      B-133 Sep 1750: Sale and indenture between Joseph Lancaster with wife William and John Savidge, all of County of Surry.
      Mary Savage:
      A-016 Jan 1744/5: Indenture of a sale between William Savage and his wife Mary with James Adams.
      John Savidge:
      B-134 Sep 1750: Sale and indenture between Joseph Lancaster with wife Mary and John Savidge, all of County of Surry.

      10. The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal; Issue Number 60, October 2007, by James L. Parham: "Surry County, Virginia COURT Records . (These microfilms were rented from the Salt Lake City library via the local Mormon Church here in Huntsville, AL. I searched these microfilm a few years ago, and just stumbled on them again. They contain some interesting and useful information about the Mangums in Surry County, VA before the 1748 migration into N.C. I took these notes in haste, so the transcription will not be 100% accurate.)
      A. Surry County Order book, 1691-1713 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm #0034129):
      Page 132 - John Mangham having been [summoned] on evidence on behalf of Arthur Davis against Robt Blake and attended two days it is ordered that the said Davis pay him for the [said] according to law with cash at Exam. - Surry Court, Southwark May 28, 1695
      Page 175 - Richd Bennett having brought an action to this court agt. Abraham Morris and failing to appear to prosecute, this suit is dismisst.
      Page 179 - John Mangham having caused Tho Durham to be arrested to this court not having entered a petition the [suit] is therefore [dismisst?] Court May 4, 1697
      Page 195 - Upon the request of George Morrell a hafame?? Ionnigauht?? of one hundred acres of land made for the said Morrell by John Mangham draftd the twenty third day of March 1695/6 is admitted for record. 7 March 1698/9.
      PAGES with Bennett Records (Not Transcribed): 117, 112, 109, 91 (96), 168, 175, 177, 199, 201, 235, 276
      B. Surry County Order book, 1713-1718 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm #0034129): No Mangums - Very short. Bennett Information on pages 91 & 47.
      C. There Are No Extant Records Between 1718 and 1741
      D. Surry County Order book, 1741-1744 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm #0034129):
      Page 87 - Indenture of lease and release between John Mangum and Olive his wife of the one part and Zachariah Madere of the other part acknowledged by these John & Olive and by the court ordered to be recorded. Pervious to which the sd Olive was privily examined & as the law directss.
      E. 16 Feby 1742 [1742/43] Surry Court. Page 184 - Jury of grand, inquest for the body of this county. William Mangum one of the jurors. Returns: John Edmunds for not going to Church; Judith Pitts for having two bastard children at a birth; Mary Green for having a bastard Child; Others.
      F. Surry Court session 16 Nov. 1743:
      Page 234 - On the petition of Olive Mangum widow who made oath according to same, certificate is granted her for the obtaining letters of administration of the estate of her husband John Mangum dec'ed giving security on which she together with James Nicholson and William Mangum her securities enters & acknowledges their bond for her due administration of the said decedants estate. Surry Court 18 July 1744.
      Page 234 - Ordered that Samuel Maget, Robert Judkins, Bartholomew Figures & William Queen or any three of them being -[Continued on page 235]
      Page 235 - being first sworn before Howell Briggs gent. Do appraise in current money the slaves and personal estate of John Mangum Dec'ed and return the appraisement to the next court.
      G. Surry County Order book, 1744-1749 (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm # 0034130):
      Page 13 - An inventory of appraisment of the estate of John Mangum dec'ed was returned and by the court ordered to be recorded. - Surry Court 20th Dec. 1744.
      Page 24 - Thomas Jones (Plt) against Samuel Mangum (Deft) - In debt.
      This day came as well the PLT by his attorney as the deft in his proper person and the Sd Defts saith That he cannot gainsay the plts Action nor but that he Oweath the Debt in the Declaration mentioned amountings to Eight pounds, Six shillings. Therefore it is Considered that the plt Recover the same against the Sd Deft. together with his Costs by him in this behalf Eexpended, And the Sd deft. In mercy &c - Surry Court 20 Feb. 1744 [1744/45].
      Page 58 - On the petition of James Nicholson and William Mangum thereby sitting forth that they these petitioners became bound to this court as securities of Olive Mangum for the due administration of the estate of John Mangum deced and apprehending themselves to be in imminent danger of being thereby damnified prayed relief in the premisses whereupon after hearing as well that these petitioners as these alive. It is ordered and decreed that these alive deliver up this estate to the petitioners and give them good and sufficient security to indemnify them in the premisses. 19 June 1745.
      Page 70 - This day came the Plt by his attorney and thereupon came also a jury... Bartholemew Figures, John Jeby??, Thomas Washington, William Mangum, William Gillam, Charles Lucas, Benjamin Jordon, John Nicholson, William Owen, Henry Collier, Thomas Gray, Assault and battery John Ellis Plt versus Amos Newson Def. 18 July 1745.
      Page 266 - J Adams?? Plt vs Samuel Mangum Carpenter Def. In Debt, 18 Feb. 1746 [1746/47]. The Deft. Being delivered? Not an inhabitant of this county, it is ordered that this suit abate. [Editor's note: Where was Samuel in 1747*? Had he already gone to N.C., or just to a neighboring county to escape his creditors? *Note that in the old dating system the New Year started in March, not January. So, 18 Feb. 1746/47 is 18 Feb. 1747 in our dating system.]
      Page 313 - Ordered that Augustine Hargrove, Charles Holt, John White, William Mangum, appraise estate of Arthur Sherrod 16 June 1747
      Page 323 - Ordered that the Church warden of Albemarle Parish bind out the orphans of John Mangum according to law. Surry Court 16 June 1747. [Editor's note: This was John Mangum Jr., supposed son of the immigrant John Mangum.]
      Page 387 - The last will and testament of John Richardson dec'ed was presented in court by Elizabeth Richardson, widow and reliect of the said John and executrix therein named who made oath thereto according to law and the same was proved by the oaths of Samuel Maget and Olive Mangum the witnesses thereto and by the court ordered to be recorded on the motion of the said executrex certificate is granted her for obtaining a probate thereof in due form. Surry Court 20 Oct. 1747.
      Page 415 - John Holt PLT against William Mangum and Charles Clany Defts. (In Debt) Discontinued. The Plt. Failing to prosecute. Surry Court 19 Jan. 1747 [1747/48] [19 Jan. 1748]
      Page 463 -Attachment obtained by John Ruffin gent. Against estate of William Mangum who have privily removed himself or is absent or that the ordering releif of law cannot be [broed] on him for debt six pounds, - - -teen shillings and two pence. - Surry Court 21 June 1748 [Book says May 1748 Court. It started on page 451, the June 1748 court started page 473] [Editor's Note: William Sr. & family have already gone to N.C.]
      Page 475 - The attachment obtained by Thomas [Peilfers] against the estate of William Mangum who hath privately removed himself or absconded that the ordinary proofs of same cannot be served on him for a debt of three pounds eight shillings & five pence for ___ due form ... .attach all the effects of same. Surry Court 21 June 1748 [MDCCXLVIII]
      Page 493 - Debt against Thomas Pritlol against estate of William Mangum - Surry Court 16 Aug. 1748.
      Page 540 - The petition and summon brought by William Mangum against Joseph Jeffries is dismissed, the Plt failing to prosecute. 18 April 1749.
      Page 563 - Nicholas Maggott (or Maggett) by Samuel Maggott his ___ friend Plt. Vs. Ann Maggett Widow Def. Suit concerning a slave. On the Jury were Thomas Gillam, James Mangum, others. 20 June 1749
      Page 570 - The attachment obtained by Thomas Prillos? Agst the estate of William Mangum the Pre___?? Continued agst the garnishes is now ordered to be discontinued. 21 June 1749
      G. Surry County Order book, 1749-1751, (From Salt Lake City (Mormon) microfilm # 0034130):
      Page 20 - Dinah, a negroess____?? Belonging to James Mangum was by the court adjudged to be eleven years old. 17 Oct. 1749
      Page 106 - James Mangum Plt vs Thomas Eldridge gent. Adm. Of Thomas King decd (Def.) Undefended, damages to be determined by next court. 19 June 1750.
      Page 147 - Judith Binns, exec'x of Charles Binns gent. Dec. against John Mangum, ordered that this suit abate by the deft's death. 16 Oct. 1750
      Page 155 -Petition and summons brought by Samuel Mangum Plt against Agnis Washington Deft. She is nothing indebted to the Plt, the Plt joins the office? Of the cause is continued till the next court. 16 Oct. 1750.
      Page 214 - Samuel Mangum Plt vs Agnes Washington Def. 21 May 1751. By petition for 3of? By account, the parties were heard by their attn. The petition was dismissed. The court valued the building the house mentioned in the petition account to 40 shillings and no more. Def. Had paid 30 shillings.
      Page 216 - Upon the motion of Herod Clany a witness for Agnes Washington in the suit of Samuel Mangum, ordered that she pay him 400 and 5 pounds of nett? Tobo [Tobacco] for the two days attending ... 21 May 1751
      Page 225 - Ordered that Joseph Mangum [unclear] appointed survey of the road leading over Clays Bridge.
      EDITOR'S COMMENT:
      I don't think I have seen these records published anywhere else before. Only a couple of items stand out to me. One is that it appears that both William Mangum Sr. and his supposed son Samuel Mangum had financial problems before the migration to N.C. about 1748. Maybe those financial problems were one of the incentives for their move. The second item is the statement in the court record (page 266) that shows that Samuel Mangum was not in the County of Surry in 1747, about a year before we believe William Sr. and family moved to N.C. The records also show that William Sr. was still in Surry County on 16 June of 1748 when he appraised the estate of William Sherrod. He was definitely out of the County by 21 June 1748. He may have been gone by 19 Jan. 1748 as one John Holt decided not to prosecute him for a debt, probably realizing it was a waste of time if William had already left the County."

      BIRTH:
      1. Caution should be used in accepting exact birth dates on any second generation Mangums. There are no records of any of the births of any of the Mangums of the second generation (after the first generation of John Mangum, the immigrant, and his wife Frances Bennett). Any dates given here and with all other genealogies that I have seen by other family researchers are conjecture. Most records we have of this generation are by association of later wills and other transactions and by association of time and locality. As quoted from the book "Pleasant Mangum and All His Kin," comp. by James Lynn Parham, longtime editor of the Mangum Family Bulletin and the premier researcher on early Mangums, 1997, pp. 41-45: "The determination of the children of the immigrant John Mangum has been mostly a matter of edutated guesswork. We know that Mary and Sarah Mangum, mentioned in Sarah Lancaster's will of 1722, were daughters of John Mangum. Both were apparently minors at that time. Frances, mentioned in the will of Richard Bennett, Jr., may have been a daughter of John, but that theory is controversial [kp: based on the interpretation of Robert Bennett's will where it says my granddaughter Frances Mangum]. John who married Olive Savidge, was most likely the eldest son of John and Frances. Two other probably sons, James and William, both married Marys and recorded some of their children's births in the Albemarle Parish [kp: which began in 1739, but has many missing pages in the extant copy]... For various other reasons, some researchers have assigned other children to John and Frances. Among those is Henry Mangum who recorded his children's births in the Mill Swamp Baptist Church records of Isle of Wight County, beginning in 1746. His tie to John the immigrant lies in the fact that he was in the same general area and his age was approximately the ages of John's other children."
      Many researchers also include Nicholas, Joseph, and Samuel as children merely on possible association by time and locality. Others consider Nicholas as a possible separate immigrant, Samuel as a son of second generation William Mangum, Sr., and Joseph as a son of second generation Nicolas (or possible first generation) Mangum. Unfortunately there is no proof on the these latter three one way of the other.
      Most birthdates assigned to the spouses of these individuals are also conjecture based on arbitrary dates given to the Mangum family births.

      ACTION:
      1. Confirm with James Parham as to his current thinking that places Samuel as a son of William Mangum, Sr. and not as a brother.