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John Barber

Male Bef 1587 - 1620  (~ 33 years)


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  • Name John Barber 
    Born Bef 1587  of Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Buried 21 Apr 1620  Stamford All Saints, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I2205  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Family Elizabeth Lumley,   b. Bef 1589, of Uffington, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 8/08 Mar 1632/3, Stamford All Saints, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 44 years) 
    Married 17 Oct 1608  Uffington, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Rebecca Barber,   c. 17 Apr 1609, Stamford Saint George, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 6 Aug 1609, Stamford Saint George, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 0 years)
     2. Sarah Barber,   c. 16 Sep 1610, Stamford Saint George, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. Thomas Barber,   c. 25 Dec 1612, Stamford Saint George, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 Sep 1662, Windsor, Hartford, Connecticut, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 49 years)
     4. Elizabeth Barber,   c. 10 Nov 1616, Stamford All Saints, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. John Barber,   c. 4 Aug 1620, Stamford All Saints, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 22/22 Mar 1633/4, Stamford All Saints, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 13 years)
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F772  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. Traditionally no one knew exactly from where in England Thomas Barber came. Some have conjectured that he was born about 1614 in Bedfordshire, England to Edward Barber but they offer no supporting documentation. Millbrook, Bedfordshire was the home of Frances Stiles to whom Thomas was apprenticed in 1634 in London and may be the reason many use Bedfordshire as the home of Thomas. Donald Barber, in his book quoted below, makes the case for John Barber of Lincolnshire.

      2. Partial excerpt from the biographical sketch of Thomas Barber included in the book "Great Migration," which is a highly dependable modern research publication (see Thomas' notes for full transcript):
      "Thomas Barber
      Origin: St Mildred Breadstreet, London
      Migration: 1635 on the Christian
      Birth: Baptized Stamford, Lincolnshire, 25 December 1612, son of John and Elizabeth (Lumley) Barber [TAG 71:111-12]...
      Associations: ...Received of Francis Stiles for apprenticing Thomas Barber, son of John Barber of Stamford in the County of Lincoln, yeoman, deceased, from St Thomas's day next for 9 years. 2s. 2d. (TAG 71: 111]...
      Bibliographical Note: In 1996 Donald S. Barber published the English origin of Thomas Barber, including the identification of his parents [TAG 71:111-12]."

      3. FHL book 929.273 B233w, "Descendants of Thomas Barber of Windsor, Connecticut, 1614-1909," John Barber White, p. 11-13: Barber... The origin of the name is a question upon which there is some difference of opinion. All agree, however, that Normandy was its original European home, and that it came into England at the time of the Norman Conquest in the 11th century, and the claim has been made that it came into Normandy indirectly from Persia. The greater number of those who have made a study of family names, ascribe its derivation to the trade of hair cutting and hair dressing. The fashion of elaborate hair dressing and of fastidious care of the beard was brought into England by the Normans, and so popular did it become at Court, that skillful hair dressers were much sought after. Among the royalty, nobility and wealthy gentry, the barber's position was an important one in the household. He was a close confidant of his employer and only men of fidelity and high standing were chosen for the position. The barbers were also skilled in surgery and in the use of drugs and not the least of their duties, was that of physician to the household. Among the titled barons, it became the custom to bestow upon their barbers their own titles, calling them 'Baron Barbers,' a practice which the London records show to have prevailed until comparatively recent times. A no less authority, however, than the late Dr. Henry Barber of London, whose study of this particular name would naturally be most thorough and complete, claims that the theory of its derivation from the hair dressing tade, is extremly doubtful. He states that the more probable origin 'is from St. Barbe sur Gaillon, a local name in Normady, where was the celebrated Abbey of St. Barbara,' whence comes the name of 'Barber or Barbour, a hamlet in Dumbartonshire,' and he cites in supprt of this theory, the personal names, 'Bernard Barb de Barbes, tenant in the Domesday book; St. Barbe on the Roll of Battel Abbey; William de St. Barbara, Bishop of Durham, A.D., 1143; Le Barbier, Court of Husting, London, 1258.' Dr. Barber also gives the various French forms of the names as Barbe, Barbier, Barbare, Barberie and particularly among families of Scottish origin as Barbour. There are numerous distinguished old families in England and Scotland bearing this name, and the Armories contain record of some nine or ten coats of arms of the Barber families..."

      4. FHL book 929.273 B695bo "Ancestral Lines, Third Edition," compiled by Carl Boyer, 3rd [Santa Clarita, CA; 1998], p. 735:
      "JohnA Barber, probably born in the early or middle 1580s, was buried at all Saints, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England, 21 April 1620. He married in Uffington, Lincs., 17 Oct. 1608 Elizabeth Lumley, who was buried at All Saints 8 March 1632/3. He was called a "labourer" in the baptismal record of his daughter Elizabeth in 1616, and a yeoman in the guild record of 1634. No relevant probate records were found in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury or the Consistory Court of Lincoln. Children, listed by Donald S. Barber, baptized in parishes of Stamford, Lincs.:
      i. Rebecca1, bapt. St. George 17 April 1609; bur. there 6 Aug. 1609.
      ii. Sarah, bapt. St. George 16 Sept. 1610.
      iii. Thomas, bapt. St. George 25 Dec. 1612; d. Windsor, Conn., 11 Sept. 1662; m. Windsor 7 Oct. 1640 Jane, who d. Windsor 10 Sept. 1662.
      iv. Elizabeth, bapt. All Saints 10/11 Nov. 1616.
      v. John, bapt. All Saints 4 Aug. 1620; bur. there 22 March 1632/3."
      Additions by Addendum, p. 735: "Thomas1 Barber [p. 69] was not likely to have sailed in the Chrystian of London directly to Windsor, Connecticut, with a stop in Boston. It is more likely that his party disembarked the ship on arrival in Boston, 16 June 1635, and then arrived in Windsor about 1 July 1635. Record of Thomas Barber has been found in part of the minutes of the Worshipful Company of Carpenters at the Guildhall, London, under the date 18 Dec. 1634: "Received of Francis Stiles for apprenticing Thomas Barber, son of John Barber of Stamford in the County of Lincoln, yeoman, deceased, from St. Thomas's day next for 9 years. 2s 2d" [Donald S. Barber, TAG, 71 (1996), 111]."

      5. FHL book 929.273 B233bd, "The Connecticut Barbers, A Genealogy of the Descendants of Thomas Barber of Windsor, Connecticut," 2nd Ed., Donald S. Barber: "The English Family of Thomas Barber. This section is based on my original 1996 entry in The American Genealogist, v. 71, no. 2, p. 111. It has long been known that Thomas Barber, with several others, was apprenticed to Francis Stiles, who was paid to bring them to Windsor, CT. Francis Stiles was a carpenter and London freeman, so it seemed reasonable to search in the appropriate guild records in London. The following entry was found in the records of the Worshipful Company of Carpenters at the Guildhall, in the minutes of a meeting held on 18 Dec 1634: 'Received of Francis Stiles for apprenticing Thomas Barber son of John Barber of Stamford in the County of Lincoln, yeoman, deceased, from St. Thomas's day next for 9 years. 2s 2 d (2 shillings, 2 pence)." In the parish registers in Stamford and the adjacent parish of Uffington is the following:
      A. St. George Parish, Stamford, Lincoln County:
      a. Rebecca, dau. of John Barber, labourer, bapt. 17 Apr 1609.
      b. Rebecca, dau. of John Barber, bur. 6 Aug 1609.
      c. Sara, dau. of John Barber, labourer, bapt. 16 Sep 1610.
      d. Thomas, son of John and Elizabeth Barber, bapt. 25 Dec 1612.
      B. All Saints Parish, Stamford:
      a. Elizabeth Lumley, dau. of Thomas Lumley, bapt. 4 Aug 1597 (how related?).
      b. Elizabeth, dau. of John Barber, bapt. 10 or 11 Nov 1616.
      c. John, son of John Barber, bapt. 4 Aug 1620.
      d. John Barber, bur. 21 Apr 1620.
      e. Elizabeth Barber, widow, bur. 8 Mar 1632.
      f. John Barber, son of Widow Barber, bur. 22 Mar 1632.
      C. Uffington Parish, Lincoln County:
      a. Elizabeth Barber, m. William Fowler, 8 Jun 1590 (? related).
      b. Margaret Barber, m. John Preeste, 2 Oct 1607 (? a sister of John the father).
      c. John Barber, m. Elizabeth Lumley, 17 Oct 1608.
      From the above records the English family of Thomas Barber appears to be as follows: John Barber, b. probably in the early to middle 1580s; buried at All Saints, Stamford, Lincoln County, 21 Apr 1620, md. Uffington, Lincoln County, 17 Oct 1608, Elizabeth Lumley, who was buried at All Saints, Stamford on 9 Mar 1632/3. John is called a labourer in 1609, and a yeoman later. Yeomen were small land owners, a step up from labourers, but below gentry. John and Elizabeth lived first in St. George Parish, Stamford, Lincoln County, which is the part of Stamford adjacent to Uffington, and later in All Saints Parish on the other side of Stamford. Stamford is about 80 miles north of London. Children of John and Elizabeth, bapt. in Stamford:
      a. Rebecca, bapt. St. George Parish 17 Apr 1609; bur. there 6 Aug 1609.
      b. Sarah, bapt. St. George Parish, 16 Sep 1610.
      c. Thomas, bapt. St. George Parish 25 Dec 1612; died in Windsor, Connecticut, 11 Sep 1662.
      d. Elizabeth, bapt. All Saints Parish 10 or 11 Nov 1616.
      e. John, bapt. All Saints Parish 4 Aug 1620; bur. there 22 Mar 1632/3.
      It seems likely that Thomas Barber was born 21 Dec 1612, which is St. Thomas' Day, and bapt. 4 days later. He was still 21 old on the date of his apprenticeship (18 Dec 1634) and this figure (21) was perhaps mistakenly carried over by Francis Stiles when reporting it less that 3 months later for the shipping list of 16 mar 1634/5 by which time Thomas was 22 years old. The Elizabeth Lumley who was baptized in 1597, dau. of Thomas Lumley, is probably not the same person who married John Barber, since her baptism was only 9 years before the marriage, and baptisms at that time almost always took place soon after birth. No other Lumleys were found in Stamford or Uffington. I notice that John Barber [the son] was born 3 months after his father John died."

      6. The periodical "The American Genealogist," 71[1996]:111-12, "The English Origin of Thomas1 Barber of Windsor, Connecticut," by Donald S. Barber:
      "It has long been known that Thomas1 Barber, with several others, was apprenticed to Francis Stiles, who was paid by Sir Richard Saltonstall to bring them to Windsor to build houses for those who would come from England later.[1] They were on the 16 March 1634/5 shipping list for the "Chrystian" of London,[2] which arrived in Boston on 16 June; the party reached Windsor about 1 July 1635. The shipping list gives Thomas's age as 21. Further details about Thomas1 Barber and his family are given in my book, "The Connecticut Barbers,"[3] published in 1992, before I became aware of his English origin.
      Francis Stiles was a carpenter and London freeman, so it seemed reasonable to search the appropriate guild records in London. Frances Markham, a London researcher, recently found the following entry for me in the records of the Worshipful Company of Carpenters at the Guildhall. The entry is part of the minutes for a meeting held on 18 December 1634:[4]
      "Received of Francis Stiles for apprenticing Thomas Barber, son of John Barber of Stamford in the County of Lincoln, yeoman, deceased, from St. Thomas's day next for 9 years. 2s 2d."
      This led to the International Genealogical Index [IGI] for Lincolnshire and then to the appropriate parish registers in Stamford and to the Bishops' Transcripts for the adjacent parish of Uffington:
      St. George, Stamford, co. Lincoln:[5]
      Rebecca, dau. of John Barber, bp. 17 April 1609.
      Rebecca, dau. of John Barber, bur. 6 Aug. 1609.
      Sara, dau. of John Barber, labourer, bp. 16 Sept. 1610.
      Thomas, son of John and Elizabeth Barber, bp. 25 Dec. 1612.
      All Saints, Stamford:[6]
      Elizabeth, dau. of John Barber, bp. [10 or 11] Nov. 1616.
      John, son of John Barber, bp. 4 Aug. 1620.
      John Barber, bur. 21 April 1620.
      Elizabeth Barber, widow, bur. 8 March 1632[/3].
      John Barber, son of Widow Barber, bur. 22 March 1632[/3].
      Uffington, co. Lincoln:[7]
      Elizabeth Barber m. William Fowler, 8 June 1590.
      Margaret Barber m. John Preeste, 2 Oct. 1607.
      John Barber m. Elizabeth Lumley, 17 Oct. 1608.
      SUMMARY
      JOHNA BARBER was born probably in the early or middle 1580s and was buried at All Saints, Stamford, county Lincoln, on 21 April 1620. He married at Uffington, county Lincoln, on 17 October 1608, ELIZABETH LUMLEY. She was buried at All Saints, Stamford, on 8 March 1632[/3]. He was called a "labourer" in the baptism of his daughter Sarah.
      Children of JohnA and Elizabeth (Lumley) Barber:
      i REBECCA BARBER, bp. St. George, Stamford, co. Lincoln, 17 April 1609, bur. there, 6 Aug. 1609.
      ii SARAH BARBER. bp. St. George, 16 Sept. 1610.
      iii THOMAS1 BARBER, bp. St. George, 25 Dec. 1612, d. Windsor, Conn., 11 Sept. 1662;[8] m. Windsor, 7 Oct. 1640, JANE ___,[9] who d. Windsor, 10 Sept. 1662.[10] [St. Thomas Day is 21 December, and that may be the day of his birth and the source of his name, as well as the day on which his apprenticeship began.]
      iv ELIZABETH BARBER, bp. All Saints, Stamford, 10 or 11 Nov. 1616.
      v JOHN BARBER, bp. Alt Saints, 4 Aug, 1620, bur. there, 22 March 1632[/3].
      No relevant probates were found in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury or the Consistory Court of Lincoln.
      More research in records in the Stamford area (including nearby sections of Rutland and Northamptonshire) might be helpful in showing the origin of JohnA Barber and of his wife Elizabeth Lumley.
      I am grateful to Frances Markham for finding the key entry in the records of the Carpenters' Company in London, and to Dr. Neil D. Thompson, CG, FASG, for checking my readings of the pariah registers, for confirming the IGI entries for Uffington in the Bishops' Transcripts, and for searching for relevant probates."
      Footnotes:
      1. Henry R. Stiles, "The History of Ancient Windsor, Connecticut, ..." [1st ed.] (New York, 1859), 19-22; [2d ed.], 2 vols. (Hartford, 1891-92), 1:44, 151, 2:50.
      2. John Camden Hotten, "The Original Lists of Persons of Quality…" (New York, 1874),
      42-43.
      3. Donald S. Barber, "The Connecticut Barbers" (Middlefield, Conn., 1992), 1-2.
      4. Worshipful Company of Carpenters, Court Minute Book 1618-35, Guildhall Library MS
      4329/4.
      5. Family History Library [FHL], Salt Lake City, film #1,450,474.
      6. FHL film #1,450,472.
      7. FHL film #509,002, Item 2.
      8. Edwin Stanley Welles, ed., "Births, Marriages and Deaths Returned from Hortfirrd, Windsor, and Fairfield ..." (Hartford, 1897), 21; hereafter cited as Welles.
      9. "Matthew Grant Record," "Some Early Records and Documents of and Relating to the Town of Windsor[,] Connecticut, 1639-1703" (Hartford, 1930), 24. For the unlikely claim that Jane (___) Barber was a widow Bancroft, see George E. McCracken, "Bancrofts in the Connecticut Valley," TAG 37(1961):154-60.
      10. Welles, 21."