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John Caine

Male 1762 - 1840  (77 years)


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  • Name John Caine 
    Born 10 Dec 1762  Mohawktown (now Florida), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened 5 Mar 1763  Dutch Reformed Church, Caughnawaga (now Fonda), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States. Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 7 Jun 1840  Camden, Oneida, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried Forest Lawn Cemetery, Camden, Oneida, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I2159  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father Thomas Caine or Kane,   b. 1738, , Derry, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Apr 1797, Schuyler, Herkimer, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 59 years) 
    Mother Maria Catharina Young or Jong,   c. 1 Jun 1740, Fort Hunter, Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1787, , , New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 46 years) 
    Married Abt 1760  of Warrensbush (now Florida), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F857  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Sophia Frederick,   b. 12 Sep 1766, Warrensbush (now Florida), Albany (now Montgomery), New York, United States. Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Jun 1861, Camden, Oneida, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 94 years) 
    Married 22 Mar 1785  Schenectady, Albany (now Schenectady), New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 28 May 2021 
    Family ID F1285  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. Variant surname spellings: Cain, Caine, Kane, or Kaine.

      2. The book "Compendium of Mohawk Valley Families," by Marily Penrose, p. 95:
      A. "Pension Abstract. Caine, Johm, b. 12/10/1762, Mohawktown, NY; m. Sophia Frederick 3/22/1785, Schenectady, NY; d. 6/7/1840, Camden, Oneida Co., NY (Sophia Caine, b. 9/12/1766; resident of Camden, NY on 6/5/1851.) Children: Thomas, b. 3/1/1786; Philip, b. 7/25/1787; Peter, b. 12/12/1788; John, b. 6/5/1798; Hanah, b. 6/14/1800; Eve, b. 7/20/1802; Frederick, b. 11/7/1804; Perthemay, b. 11/17/1806, Barney, b. 1/12/1809. John enlisted in July 1780 and served for five months as a private in Capt. Garret Putman's Co., Col. Marinus Willett's Regt.; 4/1/1781, served in the same company and regiment as a sergeant for nine months. John also served in the War of 1812, while a resident of Schuyler, Herkimer Co., as a substitute for his son, Peter; from 10/5/1814 to 11/18/1814, private in Capt. Hutchin's Co. of NY Militia and went to the defense of Sackett's Harbor; his son John, served with him. (RWPA: #W18849)"
      B. Tryon County Militia:
      John Caine
      Peter Caine
      Thomas Caine.
      C. Misc. other Caine entries:
      a. George Cain md. Sarah Britten, Warrensbush, 2/17/1790 (JDR:#87)
      b. William Cain md. Anne Barnhard, Warrensbush, 12/5/1787 (JDR:#71)
      c. Joseph Cain and Catarina ___: Johannes, bapt. 9/13/1761 (DRC:6). Sponsors: Douwe and Debora Fonda.
      d. Thomas Cain and Melee Knap: Sara, b. 9/16/1790; bapt. 1/8/1791 (DRC:93). No sponsors named.
      e. Pension abstract for Peter Warren Caine, b. between 3/1/1750 and 3/3/1750 at Warrensbush, NY. md. Angelica ___ 1/22/1777, Schenectady, NY; d. 7/10/1833. [Children and service detail follows.] (RWPA: #16525)

      3. Per Worldconnect 6 Nov 2007 database "andrea60" of Andrea Mastrianni .
      A. She notes he moved his family to Schuyler, Herkimer co, NY in 1792, went to the defene of Sackett's Harbor in 1812 with his son John while living in Schuyler.
      B. Pension file records: "Caine, John/Sophia - New York - and War of 1812 - W#18849 - BLWT 54431-160-55 and BLWT 100-707-40-50 allowed on 1812 service. Utica 12872 - New York 8993- John Caine of Oneida Co., NY who was a pvt and segt in the company commanded by Captain Putnam of the Regt commanded by Col. Willet of the NY ma Line for 5 months as private and 9 months as sgt. - Inscribed on the Roll of NY at the rate of $61.66 per annum to commence 4 Mar 1831. Oneida Co., NY - 10 Sept 1832 appeared John Caine, aged 69 yrs that he was born at Mohawktown now town Florida, Montgomery Co., NY 10 Dec 1762 has record of age in family Bible. Lived at place of birth when he entered service - since war lived at Camden NY. Mexico NY, Onondago NY, now Rome, Oneida Co., NY that he enlisted at Mohawktown, NY in July 1780 for 5 months......signed John Caine. Oneida Co., NY - 7 Apr 1855 appeared Sophia Cain aged 88 a resident of Camden, NY that she is a widow of John Caine..signed by mark of Sophia Cain. Oneida Co., NY - 5 June 1851 appeared Sophia Caine, aged 85 of Camden, NY widow of John Caine a private (substitute) in war with Great Britain 1812 - that he then lived at Herkimer, NY and was discharged at Sackets Harbor on 14 Nov 1814.....that she was married to John Caine at Schenectady on 8th? January 1785 by Rev. W. Hermoine proof of which is on file at Pension office..John Caine died at Camden June 7, 1840...signed by mark Sophia Caine Herkimer Co., NY - William Cain of Germanflatts, Herkimer Co., NY aged 75 years...well acquainted with John Cain last of Camden, Oneida Co., NY...that he also knew his wife whose maiden name was Sophia Frederick..that this deponent was present at their marriage..signed 10 Sept 1840 by William Cain's mark (William Cain was born 1765-)."

      4. Per Worldconnect 6 Nov 2007 database "andrea60" of Andrea Mastrianni . She lists 12 children born of this couple:
      Thomas, b. 1 Mar 1786, bp. 1 Mar 1786 in Caughnawaga Church, m. Sally Hutchinson.
      Philip, b. 25 Jul 1787.
      Peter, b. 12 Dec 1788, m. Mahetable Worden, d. 31 Jan 1883 in Schuyler, Herkimer, NY.
      John, b. 16 Jun 1791, bp. Jul 1791 in Caughnawaga church, was in prison in 1822 for grand larceny., m. Betsey Nelson.
      William, b. 16 Oct 1793
      Polly, b. 23 Sep 1796, m. Dennis Peck 4 Apr 1825.
      Francis, b. 25 Feb 1798
      Hannah, b. 16 Jun 1800, m. Adna Anderson in 1819.
      Eve (Sally), b. 20 Jul 1802, m. Bennett Peck.
      Frederick, b. 17 Nov 1804
      Perthemay, b. 17 Nov 1807, m. Artemus Peck 1 Jan 1824 at Rome, NY.
      Barney, b. 12 Jan 1809

      CHRISTENING:
      1. Montgomery County, NY, Archives 19 Sep 2007 visit. Family file for Cain/Kane with research letter by the archivist in a letter dated 13 May 1982 to a patron: "Baptism record for John Cain, 5 Mar 1763, parents Thomas Cain and Maria Jong, sp. Willom Jong, Margarita Jong from the Church Records for the Dutch Reformed Church in Caughnawaga (Fonda), NY."

      MARRIAGE:
      1. Montgomery County, NY, Archives 19 Sep 2007 visit: Book "First Dutch Reformed Church of Schenectady, Records of Marriages, Vol. V, 1785-1938": "John Kaine and Sophia Fredrik, married Mar. 22, 1785, both born and residing in Warrens Borough."

      2. Could the Sophia in this record be this same Sophia per "Records of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Caughnawaga, now the Reformed Church of Fonda, in the village of Fonda, Montgomery County, N.Y.," New York, unknown, 1917, 748 pp.: Elizabeth, b. 21 Apr, offspring of Cornelius Van Hoorn and Eva Fredrick, baptized 6 Jun 1785 with sponsors John Carl and Sophia Cary. [Could the Carl and Cary be the same surname and actually be Cain or something similar. The original records are extremely difficult to read.]

      3. Listed as parents per "Records of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of Caughnawaga: now the Reformed Church of Fonda, in the village of Fonda, Montgomery County, N.Y.," New York, 1917, 748 pp.: John, b. 16 Jun, offspring of John Cain and Sophia Frederik, baptized Jul 1791. No sponsors listed.