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- RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Tom's River is part of Dover township, New Jersey. This part of Monmouth county became Ocean county in 1850. See hardfile for maps of Waretown, Forked River, and environs from late 1800's. Reviewed records at both Ocean County Historical Association in Toms River, NJ and Monmouth County Archives in Freehold, NJ. No land transfers, Justice of the Peace dockets, birth, marriage, professional index, nor freeholder minutes 1789 - 1829 found for Jonathan Winner (nor for hardly any Winners at all).
2. Censuses. Jonathan Winner of Dover is not listed in the 1830, 1840, and 1850 censuses of New Jersey. His move to Ohio would have to be sometime between 1812 when his ship was burned in Barnegat Bay and 1820 when he shows up in the Ohio census.
1820 US: Perry Twp., Brown, OH:
Jonathan Winner 0 0 1 2 0 1 0 3 2 ?
(Zechariah Ashton is listed on the same page. Zechariah was the son of Hannah Johnson, sister of Naomi, wife of Isaac Winner. Hannah's first seven children were born in PA. This is a similar pattern to Isaac Winner and Mary Powell.)
1830 US: Perry Twp., Brown, OH (immediately next to each other):
Jonathan Minor [Winner], males: 1@20-30, 1@50-60; females: 1<5, 2@10-15, 1@15-20, 1@20-30, 1@50-60. [It appears that Isaac is living in the household, perhaps with a wife and family which would account for the very youngest daughter. He does not show up in the census elsewhere in the township, yet he provides oaths for the marriages of his sisters Emy (Amy) and Lowis in 1832 and 1828.]
Benjamin Minor [Winner], males: 1<5, 1@20-30; females 2<5, 1@5-10, 1@20-30.
David Brown, males: 1<5, 1@10-15, 1@15-20, 1@20-30, 1@50-60; females: 1@20-30, 1@50-60. [If our David Brown, then must be in a multi-generational family.]
(The names are clearly written as Minor; however, there is no other listing for Jonathan, but he was listed in the 1820 and 1840 censuses. George Ashton is on the same page. In the 1840 census George Ashton is listed on the same page as Jonathan Winner, George Ashton is also the son of Hannah Johnson, sister of Naomi, wife of Isaac Winner, Jonathan's wife. Also a David Brown, perhaps the husband of Barbary Winner, is an immediate neighbor.)
1840 US: Perry Twp., Brown, OH:
Jonathan Winer, males: 1@60-70; females: 1@10-15; 1@20-30; 1@50-60.
(George Ashton is listed on the previous page - Jonathan is listed at the top of the page. Benjamin Winner has moved away to Illinois.)
1850 US: Perry Twp., Brown, OH:
Jonathan Winner, age 72, b. PA.
Sarah J., age 71, b. NJ.
Elizabeth Mitchell, age 16, b. OH. [She is probably their grand-daughter and daughter of Lois (Winner) Mitchell.]
3. Jonathan does not show up in any tax, voter, or census report in New Jersey. Much of NJ had no censuses until 1830. He does not show up in the 1830 or 1840 censuses as can be seen from my following extractions:
A. 1830 US census index for all Winne/Winners in NJ:
-Dr. Henry Winne, Bernards Twp., Somerset.
-Martin Winne, Bernards Twp., Somerset.
-Abby Winner, Egg Harbor Twp., Gloucester.
-George N. [K.] Winner, Dover Twp., Monmouth.
-Isaac Winner, Green Twp., Sussex.
-Samuel Winner, Evesham Twp., Burlington.
B. 1840 US census index for all Winne/Winners in NJ:
-Cornelius Winne, Bernards, Sommerset.
-Hannah Winne, Bernards, Somerset.
-Margaret Winne, Bellevil., Essex.
-Martin Winne, Bernards, Somerset.
-Charles P. Winner, Newkirk, Essex.
-George K. Winner, Dover Twp., Monmouth.
-Harriet Winner, Egg Harbor, Atlantic.
-Isaac Winner, Hannover, Burlington.
-Jesse Winner, Harmony, Warr.
-John S. Winner, Bergen Twp., Hudson.
-Nicholas Winner, Bergen Twp., Hudson.
-Reuben Winner, Dover Twp., Monmouth.
-Thomas Winner, Orange Twp., Essex.
-William Winner, Piles Gr., Sale.
4. The last record I find of Jonathan is a deed in the Brown county, Ohio, deed book D29, pp. 47-48, which is a land sale transaction between Jonathan Winner and his wife Sarah Winner of Brown co. to John McMannis "entered for record" 29 Mar 1853. The sale for $800 involved a tract "lying in Perry & jackson Township, the same lying on theline between Brown & Clermont County, the division line of said County & Township runing through the same about one half in Brown & the ballance in Clermont county Ohio being the South east part of john Parkers survey No. 2588 bounded and described as follows. Begining at a white oak hickory & two Dogwoods near the center of the north line of Wm Johnston's survey No. 1209 in Perry Township Brown county Ohio, thence runing west binding on said Johnstons line 100 poles to an Elm & Dogwood, thence running North 80 poles to the a white oak dogwood & ash, thence East 100 poles to a whiteoak & dogwood, thence South 80 poles to the begining, containin fifty acres of Land, with all the rights & appurtenances..." He signs with a signature and Sarah with a mark. Deed is dated 17 Dec. 1852 and ascribed before W.B. Conklin, J.P., on same date. Recorded 6 Apr. 1853. [Note that William B. Conklin is Jonathan's son-in-law by marriage to his daughter Amy Winner.]
Jonathan also sold the other half of the land that was in Clermont Co. to the same individual at the same time. The deed is in Clermont Co., v. 61, p. 395, and involves 50 acres, survey #2588, is similarly described, and is dated in 8152 but recorded 29 Jun 1854. He signs his name and Sarah signs with a mark.
Note that the indices for Brown Co. deeds are from 1818 to 1868 on FHL films 974671 and 974672. There is only one Winner listed in these indices, which is for the deed for Jonathan Winner as detailed above.
5. From about the 1950s due to the early work of Enid Willardson (deceased), it was thought that Jonathan was the father of George King Winner and Reuben Winner. All three of these men were involved in seafaring occupations. With Jonathan's published marriage of 1800, it made logical sense until several family researchers determined (ca. 2004) that the Jonathan who went to Ohio was the same as the Dover Twp. Jonathan. Many Internet submitted databases still show this old thinking. Even Enid Willardson had some doubts of Jonathan being the father of George and Reuben since many years ago she ran an ad in an east coast genealogical magazine advertising a $50 reward for proof of such a relationship. In reviewing Enid's files (Sep. 2001) after her death, I find she never received that proof.
6. We find an interesting entry in Familysearch's "Ohio Marriages, 1800-1958": David Brown and Barbary Turner or Winner, 7 Dec 1828, Brown Co., OH, per Ohio-VR; Source Film Number: 384273. Due to all pre-1855 Winners in Brown co. being related to Jonathan Winner, it would seem logical to assign Barbara as a daughter to Jonathan. This however does not prove out and is actually refuted by the 1850 census. We don't find any younger David and Barbara in a nationwide 1850 census search; however, 1850 shows a couple of exactly the same name in adjoining Clermont co. in their 70s. Barbara is from PA and not NJ and this was most likely a second marriage for David. Mary's surname of Turner or Winner is coincidental. David Brown is the father of James Brown of this database and others in the area including an Abner Brown as well as perhaps Benjamin Winner's wife Polly/Mary Brown. Ephraim Predmore, brother of Jonathan's wife Sarah Predmore, also married a wife named Mary A. Brown who could perhaps be a sister of David's. We follow David in the censuses as follows:
1830 US: Perry Twp., Brown, OH (immediately next to each other):
Jonathan Minor [Winner], males: 1@20-30, 1@50-60; females: 1<5, 2@10-15, 1@15-20, 1@20-30, 1@50-60.
Benjamin Minor [Winner], males: 1<5, 1@20-30; females 2<5, 1@5-10, 1@20-30.
David Brown, males: 1<5, 1@10-15, 1@15-20, 1@20-30, 1@50-60; females: 1@20-30, 1@50-60. [Appears to be a multi-generational family.]
1840 US: Jackson Twp.: David Brown, males: 1@10-14, 1@50-59; females: 1@50-59. On same page is Ephraim Predmore who married Mary A. Brown.
1850 US: Jackson Twp., Clermont, OH, 19 Jul 1850, 96/96 ( In the same census five entries away is Abner Brown, 39, NJ, with wife Martha, 45, PA, and 8 children with the oldest being David, 20. Abner is probably a son of David.):
David Brown, 72, farmer, $1000, NJ.
Barbary, 70, PA.
7. The placement of Rebecca Winner is a bit problematic considering her birth of about 1829 if the 1850 census is correct. It would be nice to have another census or two to get an age confirmation. If the birth year is correct, then she would have been about 18 years old when she was married in 1848, which is of course plausible if not just a tad young. At this time in Brown Co., Ohio, there were only two potential fathers for Rebecca: Jonathan or his son Isaac.
Jonathan and Sarah would have been about ages 50 and 49 respectively, which seems a little oldish especially considering Sarah started having children abt 1801. On the other hand, the 1840 census for Jonathan reports males: 1@60-70 and females: 1@10-15; 1@20-30; 1@50-60. The youngest female is the right age for Rebecca, the middle female could be the next older daughter Azubah who was born abt 1821 and married in 1848.
We currently believe Isaac was living with his father in the 1830 census. He was born about 1802 and would certainly have been of the right age to have fathered Rebecca. (See more below on 1830 census.) He may have actually had a first marriage of which Rebecca was a child. That first wife may have perhaps died and Rebecca was raised by her grandparents. We do see Isaac married (perhaps for a second time) in 1847 to Mary Whited who was born in 1812; they have a child Sarah J. Winner.
Looking at the 1830 census, we see males: 1@20-30, 1@50-60; females: 1<5, 2@10-15, 1@15-20, 1@20-30, 1@50-60. We can presume perhaps the following: Isaac was the younger male and his father was the older male. Sarah would be the oldest female, the dau. Sarah would be the one 15-20, and Amy would be the 20-30 daughter, and Elizabeth and Azubah would be the two 10-15 daughters - this leaves one explained female under age 5 who most likely is our Rebecca. This does not clear up who is Rebecca's father, but it does place Isaac at home and Rebecca being born from 1825 to 1830 where we would expect her.
Summarizing, I suspect the age in the 1850 census for Rebecca is more correct than not considering the age disparity with her husband (I think if the census taker was estimating he would not have had such a large disparity). I believe Sarah would not be bearing children for 28 years with one husband since a 20 year spread is more typical - also there is roughly an eight year spread between Rebecca and the previous child Azubah.
For now, my best guess is to assign Rebecca as a daughter of Isaac and an unknown first wife. I wish we had more data to work from.
BIOGRAPHY:
1. The book: "A History of Monmouth and Ocean Counties, Embracing a Genealogical Record, Etc.," by Edwin Salter, published 1890, p. lxiv: "Winner, Winnow - John Winnow's (or Winner's) house is named in a survey 1790 between North and Middle branches Forked River on main road from Goodluck to Egg Harbor. Jonathan Winner lived at same place at a little later date. Jonathan was m. to Sarah Predmore, July 28, 1800. His dau. or sister Mary m. Samuel Worden, who d. in 1812; she d. in 1828 a. 59 years. [George] King Winner of Toms River, a coasting captain, went West, probably to San Francisco, about forty years ago."
2. From the book "Old Times in Old Monmouth [New Jersey]," pp. 148. 149: "The War of 1812. Scenes on Our Coast. During the last war with England the vigilance of the British cruisers on our coast seriously injured the business of New Jersey coasting vessels. Commodore Hardy in his flag ship the 'Ramillies,' a 74 gun ship, had command of the British blockading vessels on our coast. Most accounts, written and traditional, concede that he was one of the most honorable, high-minded men in the British service, entirely different from the infamous Admiral Cockburn, who commanded the blockading squadron further south. Commodore Hardy rarely took private propery except contraband of war without offering compensation. Most of the coasters in the southern part of Old Monmouth, along Barnegat bay, were engaged in the lumber business and the stoppage of their trade was seriously felt. Occasionally some bold fortunate captain would manage to run the blockade and reach New York and be well repaid for his risk, but others who tried the experiment or were preparing to, were not quite so fortunate. On the 31st of March, 1812, Commodore Hardy, in the Ramillies, came close to Barnegat Inlet and sent in two long barges loaded with armed men after two American vessels lying in the inlet waiting a chance to slip out. They first boarded the schooner Greyhound, Capt. Jesse Rogers, of Potters Creek, and attempted to take her out but she grounded and the enemy fired her and both vessel and cargo were burned up. They then set fire to a sloop belonging to Waretown, owned by Captain Jonathan Winner, Hezekiah Soper and Timothy Soper; this vessel was saved, however, as signals were unexpectedly fired from the ship which caused the barges hastily to leave for the ship that she might start in pursuit of some vessel seen at sea. As soon as the barges left, the Americans went on board the sloop and extinguished the fire... the appearance of the Ramillies at this time at Barnegat Inlet created much excitement in the villages along the bay. At Waretown, for fear that the barges might land and commit excesses like those which disgraced the operations of Cockburn, the women and Children, and valuables easily carried were sent to a hamlet in the woods a few miles west of the place. At Forked River the late Hon. Charles Parker had just completed a large building for a dwelling, store house, &c, at the upper landing. The roof of this building was crowded with spectators, who, though six or seven miles distant, had a fair view of the ship, burning vessel and movements of the enemy..."
Note: According to undocumented entries on Worldconnect as of 2011, Timothy and Hezekiah Soper were brothers and sons of Joseph Soper and Mary Wright. No birth date is provided for Timothy, but Hezekiah is shown as abt. 1760. Timothy married Hannah Carr and Hezekiah married Temperance Sprague. Hezekiah had a son Charles (8 Feb 1800-2 Mar 1827) Soper who married Amy Winner, who is probably a sibling of Jonathan.
MARRIAGE:
1. "Marriages of Monmouth County, New Jersey, 1795-1843," comp. by George and Florence Gibson from original marriage registers on file at the Monmouth County Courthouse in Freehold, New Jersey, 1981, Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore: "Winner, Jonathan - Sarah Prigmore...7-28-1800".
2. County of Monmouth Archives and Records Center, 125 Symmes Drive, Manalapan, NJ 07726, 732-308-3771, Marriage Returns Box A1p: "This is to certify that on the 28th Day of July 1800 Jonathan Winner and Sarah Prigshorn (spelling slightly unclear but definitely not Prigmore) both of the Township of Dover in the county of Monmouth were joined in the holy Bands of Matrimony and pronounced Man and Wife by me." Note performed by D. Lawrence, Justice of the Peace.
BURIAL:
1. I reviewed FHL book 977.1796/P1 V3b which contain cemetery listings for Perry Co., Ohio. I only found one Winner entry in the entire book, which was for Elizabeth Winner, the daughter of Jonathan. She was buried 1835 in Crammer Cemetery, which is one of the very oldest in the township.
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Chris & Julie Petersen's Genealogy
Abt 1778 - Aft 1853 (~ 76 years)