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1. Montgomery County, NY, Archives 19 Sep 2007 visit: Book "Register of Baptisms, Marriages, Communicants and Funerals Begun by Henry Barclay at Fort Hunter, Jan. 26th 1734" (Queen Anne Chapel 1734-1743). There are as many Indian baptisms as there are Caucasians at this time. Names of interest:
A. "Anna Eva, Daughter of Hannis Gleyn and Mary Christina his wife, Bap't the 25th of Jan'ry 1738/9. Nicoleas Hall, Mary Hall, Anna Eva Saltser, Surties."
B. "Mary, Daughter of Johannis Cleyn and Mary Christina his wife Baptized May 25th 1740. Frans Saltser, Annatie Newkerk, Magdalene Walleslous, surties."
C. "June 1st 1740, Maria Catharina, Daughter of Peter Young and Ann Eva his wife. Joseph Walleslous, Margaret Snock, Barbara Toetendorf."
D. "October 24th 1742, Eve, Daughter of Peter Young. John Cleyn, Saets, Surties."
E. "March ye 4th 1742, Martin, Son of John Cleyn. Cornelius Bowen, Peter Young, Mary Boen."
F. "February 3, 1743/4, Helena, Daughter of Peter Young. Helena Wallslous, Helena, surties."
G. "July 15th 1739, Barent, son of Johan Peter Frederick and Anna Phronica his wife. Barent Vroman Jr., Engeltie Hansen, Surties."
H. "June 21, 1741, Ann Magdalene, Daughter of Johan Peter Frederick and Anna Phronia his wife. Joseph Walleshous and his wife."
I. "June 5th, 1743, Hans Jacob, Son of Johan Peter Frederick. Hans Huber, Jacob Naef and his wife."
[Kerry's note: John Cleyn noted above is Johannis or Hannis or Hans Cleyn [Kline, Cline] who was married to Mary Christina Young, who was probably related to Peter Young as perhaps a sister. Martinus Kline, near the Youngs and Saltzs in Warrenbush was probably related.
2. From my visit in Sep 2007 to the Montgomery County NY Archives from the book "A Genealogy of this Branch of the Young Family in America from 17271912," by Daniel S. Young and John J. Ven Der Veer, 1912, pp. 6 -13:
A. " Peter Young, who married Eve Fox, and who are the ancestors of our family, emigrated from New Jersey about 1727 and settled on a farm in Tryon county, NY, now in the town of Florida, Montgomery county, and at present owned by Charles Hubbs. The next year he bought and removed to a farm at Young lake, on the Schoharie creek, now owned by Hiltz Young, a descendant. the farm has continued in the Young family to date. His youngest son, Peter Warren Young, inherited the farm and he being the first male child born on Warren's patent, received in addition, 100 acres of land from Peter Warren the patentee, as per his offer. He married Margaret Serviss, who had two brothers that adhered to the crown and became known as staunch Tories. Peter Warren Young was a zealous patriot and trouble soon brewed in the family. He joined the colonial army at the beginning of the revolutionary war and fought for his country. I find in the archives of the colony of New York in the revolution as compiled by Comptroller James A. Roberts, 2d edition, page 179, that he was a lieutenant in Col. Frederick Fisher's 3d regiment of the Tryon county militia. His father and mother and young wife took care of the farm while he was serving his country. The Indians were familiar with the hunting grounds and fishing in the lake, and with their Tory frriends would frequently make raids there, when the family would hide in the woods. There was a large basswood tree on the highest point of lake hill, known as Gerling hill, that the young wife could climb, and from this elevation she could see over the surrounding country toward Fort Hunter, from which direction the Indians usually came, and she would give the alarm to the neighborhood and they would bury their valubles and flee to the woods. At one time they had hidden some bedding and clothes in a brush fence, which burned, and they lost their goods. These Tory brothers of Mrs. Young after the war had to forsake their country and flee to Canada, as the victorious patiots would not suffer them to live among them. Several years later, as per page 113 of illustrated history of Montgmery county, these two brothers came from Canada to make their sister a visit. Mr. Young was at the barn threshing and coming to the house was met by his wife, who told him of her brothers' arrival. He stepped in and took down his old musket and turning to them said, 'I am going to the barn, in an hour I will come back and if I find you here I will shoot you down.' The brothers left within the hour never to return for a visit there. A cut of the old Young house of our ancestors will appear in this work, together with the great well sweep that lifted the 'old oaken bucket that hung in the well.' There is still living on the place a great sugar maple tree, that has furnished sugar for all these generations. The circumference of this tree is 18 feet, and taps have been made in this tree for getting the sap, all over the trunk, for a height of 18 feet. This tree is known as Grannie's tree. The wife of Peter Warren claimed it, and in her old age she boiled all the sap from this tree in her fire place for her own use. While her sons' family boiled from the large sap bush in the woods."
B. Genealogy [contains several generations, but I only transcribe the first couple of generations]: Peter Young m. Eve Fox. Children:
a. William, m. Rachel Gardinier.
i. Peter
ii. George, m. Mary McKinney
iii. Peter
iv. Eleanor
v. William
vi. Eve
vii. Jacob
viii. Elizabeth
ix. H. Smith
b. George, m. Eleanor Saltz.
c. Margaret, m. Jacob Frederick.
i. William
ii. Lawrence
iii. Peter
iv. Hannah
d. Sophia, m. William Serviss.
i. Eve, m. William Porter.
ii. Elizabeth
iii. Mary
iv. Margaret
v. Philip
e. Marcia, m. Thomas Carr. [Erroneous: should be Caine.]
i. Thomas, Jr.
f. Peter Warren, b. 1734, d. 20 Oct 1820, m. Margaret Servoss.
i. Peter, b. 12 Dec 1776, d. 31 May 1853, m. Sarah Servoss, 23 Dec 1797.
ii. Elizabeth
iii. Margaret.
3. On file with me is a photocopy of the "225th Anniversary Program, Old Fort Hunter and Queen Anne Chapel at Fort Hunter, N.Y. Sept. 12, 1937," published under the auspices of the Improved Order of Red Men and Degree of Pocahontas for the Mohawk, Sacandaga, and Schoharie Valleys. The copy was made from the original in the Montgomery Co., NY, Archives in Fonda, NY. The brochure contains the history of Fort and Chapel.
The religious nature of the building was ended by the time the Court of General Sessions was held there in Feb. 1781. "This seems to have been an important session for discriminating between the Whigs and Tories of the county, as 104 persons were indicted 'for adhering to the the enemies of New York.' At a similar court at johnstown in the October following, 16 men were indeicted, 'for the same crime' while in February, 1782, 41 more, for their Tory procliviities, were remembered in the same manner 'for aiding, abetting, feeding and comforting a party of the enemy'... At the June term for 1782, an old gentleman and his wife wre indicted, for aiding, abetting, feeding and comforting a party of enemy.' The 163 names thus designated, show those of a great number not only of the strongest and best families of the Mohawk valley at that period, but at the present time. [The surnames of Frederick, Young, Service, Smith are listed among 25 in the narrative along with "scores of others' not listed.] - the greater part of whom went to Canada; were in the service of the enemy; not a few of them remaining there and becoming permanent citizens. Indeed, we may say that thus very many of the German families of New York became represented in Canada, and are so to this day.
Among the names recorded in the Queen Anne's Chapel Registers for baptisms, marriages, and sponsors from 1734 to 1746 are:
Frederick: Anna, Ann, Barent, Hans Jacob, and Johan.
Anna Eva Saltser, Frans. Saltser, and Anna Eva Selser.
Young: Lena, Anna Eva, Eva, Helena, Maria Cath, and Peter.
4. From my Sep 2007 visit to the Montgomery Co., NY, Archives' Young family file with a copy in my possession:
A. Indenture for lease of land dated 7 Oct 1736 between Peter Warren, Esq. of New York City and Peter Yong, yeoman, of the Province of New York for 200 acres in the county of Albany by the name of Chockanonda. Mentions "Peter Yong and Eva Young wife to Peter Yong and George Yong, son of the said Peter Yong." Rent of 5 shillings 10 pence per year for the first 10 years and 3₤ per year thereafter. [Perhaps the name Warrensbush may because the area was owned by Peter Warren of New York. It may also be the source of the name for Peter Young's sons Peter Warren Young.]
B. Officer's commission from Geo. Clinton: "The People of the State of New York, by the Grace of God, Free and Independent: to Peter Young, Esq., Greeting. We, reposing especial trust and confidence, as well in your patriotism, conduct and loyalty, as in your valour and readiness to do us good and faithful service, have appointed and constituted, and by these present, do appoint and constitute you, the said Peter Young Captain of a Company in the Regiment of Militia in the County of Montgomery whereof John Newkirk Esq. is Lieutenant Colonel Commandant. You are, therefore, to take the said Company into your charge and care, as Captain thereof and duly to exercise the Officers and Soldiers of that Company in arms, who are hereby commanded to obey you as their Captain and you are also to observe and follow such orders and directions, as you shall from time to time receive from our General and Commander in Chief of the Militia of our said State, or any other your superior Officer,... [no page follows]"
C. Handwritten note: "Settled in Florida previous to 1721, came from New Jersey, and formerly from Hesse-Cassel. Name was originally spelled Joung. Where his wife came from or where he married her is not known."
5. The book "History of Montgomery and Fulton Counties, N.Y.," reprinted 2002 (originally printed in the 1880s), p. 11, "Settlers Along the Schoharie," notes the earliest residents. South on the river would be about five miles upriver from the Schoharie's mouth into the Mohawk River at Fort Hunter. Also the river is the modern dividing point between Florida township on the east and Glen Township on the west:
"Among the pioneer settlers on the east bank of Schoharie creek were Martinus Cline and Francis Saltz, who, about the middle of the last century leased two farms in Warren's Patent, now the Henry C. Pettingill and William Voorhees places, opposite Mill Point. It is said that when they arrived on the ground they flipped a penny for the choice of places, and Saltz, winning the toss, took the southernmost of [the presently known] Voorhees farm. His oldest daughter married Philip Frederick, and they settled on the creek at the place since called Buchanan's Mills [just upriver from Salts], where Frederick cleared a farm and built a house and mill. Here in a few years quite a settlement sprung up.
Another of the pioneers who settled on the creek within the present town of Florida was Peter Young. He came from New Jersey, and camped near Garret Van Derveer's place. Learning from some Indians, while hunting one day, that a white family who had made a clearing over by the creek had become discouraged and abandoned it, he took possession of the farm, the next above Frederick's mill. The place was in Sir Peter Warren's domain, and Young paid 5s. 10d. rent for ten years, and afterward ₤3. The estate has remained in possession of the Young family from that day to this, the present owner being Miss Anna Young. Peter Young had three sons, the oldest of whom, George, married a daughter of Saltz and moved across the creek; William married a Gardinier and settled in Florida. Peter, jr., married Margaret Serviss, and kept the homestead.
During the Revolutionary war this was the retreat of the non-combatants in the neighborhood when threatened by the savage enemy. They formed a camp back of trhe lake on the farm sheltered by a semi-circle of bushes and hills. Mrs. Young [maiden name: Serviss], whose relatives were tories, and who was in no fear of them or the Indians, cooked and carried food to the refugees. Another hiding place was on the high point of land on the bank of the creek. At one time there was a large company of women and children encamped here as Indians had been seen up the stream. It was in the autumn and quite cold, and they had risked building a fire. One morning the watchman spied a company of men approaching over the hills to the east of the camp. They were supposed to be the enemy, and panic was created. Some flew to the lakeside camp; others tried to put out the fire, which would betray their positions, but they had no water, and the more they raked it, the more it smoked. They were soon delightfully relieved by the arrival of the party, who proved to be their soldier friends, home on a furlough.
After the war, Mrs. Young's tory brothers, John and Suffle Serviss, came from Canada to pay her a visit. Mr. Young was at the barn threshing and happening to come to the house was met at the door by his wife, who told him of the arrival of her brothers. He stepped in, took down his old musket, and turning to John Serviss, said, 'I am going to the barn to thresh; in an hour I shall come back, and if I find you here I will shoot you down.' The tory naturally bade a prompt farewell to his sister and set out for Canada. The suffering and loss of life and treasure among the frontier patriots at the hands of their tory neighbors could not be forgotten.
Mrs. Young was a great nurse, and returning one night from a visit across the creek in that capacity, saw the only ghost she ever met. Having paddled her canoe to the homeward side of the stream, she was making her way through a cornfield to the house, when an appartion tall and pale loomed up before her. After staring at it in alarm for a moment, she resolved to pass around it through the corn, but as she attempted to do so, the old white horse put himself also in motion and she recovered from her fright.
There is a graveyard on the Young homestead, which is the resting place of several generations of the family, and probably the oldest burial ground in the town. There is a maple tree on the estate from which five generations have made sugar."
6. The book "History of Montgomery and Fulton Counties, N.Y.," reprinted 2002 (originally printed in the 1880s):
A. From a "mass of papers left by Jelles Fonda, and now in the possession of the Van Hornes of Fonda, is 'a List of the persons that are assessed above 5 pounds, iwth the sums they are to pay, and the number of days they are to workupon the King's highways, annewed.' Thoung not dated, thedocument is believed to habe been written shortly previous to the Revoution and furnishess a sort of limited census of the inhabitants of this region, with their relative finanacil stnading. Many names now familiar in the same district will be recongized, under the disguise which the orthography of the writer, and perhaps of the times, put upon them. The list is as follows [with over 120 names including names of interest to us - note Wm. Johnson assessed at ₤202 and most others in the range of ₤6-20]:
Peter Young, quota ₤10, annual assessment 1s 6d, no. of days work 4.
Frans Salts, quota ₤15, annual assessment 3s, no. of days work 5.
Peter Frederick and sons, quota ₤12, annual assessment 3s, no. of days work 5.
[Various Gardeners/Gardeneers {Adam, Samuel, Jacob}; Mallatt {John}; Service {Peter}]
7. The book "History of Montgomery and Fulton Counties, N.Y.," reprinted 2002 (originally printed in the 1880s):
A. The narrative contains much on the French and Indian Wars and other similar incursions into the valley. William Johnson was the able commander of the local militia in the many hostilities. "The French war had involved the government of New York so deeply in dept that direct taxation was necessitated. Part of a tax list under a warrant sent b the Albany county commissioners to 'John Fonda, Collector for Mohawks,' in the summer of 1764, is extant" and includes the name of Peter Young with a valuation of ₤13 with a assessment of ₤1-12-6." When the war finally ended with the "apprehension and dread of the French invasion being removed, the tide of emigration flowed more rapidly into the Mohawk valley. The growth led to the dividing the original county of Albany into two with the forming of Tryon county in 1772. One of the reasons was the onerous task for the population to travel to Albany to avail themselves of the court. Instead of townships with the new county, "it was divided into five large districts. The most eastern district was called the Mohawk, and consisted of a strip of the State between the east line of the county already defined and a parallel line crossing the Mohawk river at the 'noses.'"
B. Original ownership in Florida township area. Walter Butler purchased from the Indians a tract of 86,000 acres which was divided into six tracts, one of which was transferred to Charles Williams and others, August 19th, 1735, and comprised the principal portion of what is now the township of Florida. The parties taking possession of this tract were to pay the yearly rent of 2 shillings, 6 pence for each 100 acres at the Custom House in New York, and agreed to settle and cultivate at least 3 acres out of every 50 within the next three years. Additionally all trees 24 inches in diameter and upwards, at 12 inches from the ground, were to be reserved for masts for the Royal Navy. This was the tract afterward owned by Sir Peter Warren, and known as Warrensbush, probably purchased by him in 1737; as a petition to be allowed to purchase 6,000 acres of land is filed by him in the Secretary of State's office, dated May 5th, 1737. this land remained in the Warren family for nearly sixty years. After the death of Sir Peter Warren, Warrensbush was divided into three parts: one part was conveyed to Charles Fitzroy, otherwise called Lord Southampton; one part to the Earl of Abingdon, and the third to Henry Gage. Abingdon and Gage conveyed their two shares to John Watts, of New York, who was formerly their attorney, and was also a brother-in-law to Sir Peter Warren. David Cady was agent for John Watts in Warrensbush. Their was an anxiety to get rid of the of the vexatious ground rents, but the lease system was well entrenched, and the owners knew well their value; only slowly and gradually was the right to the soil obtained in the late 1780s and 1790s. The following quitclaim of certain leaseholds mentions the Fredericks, Youngs, and Services: "Whereas, John Watts of the city of New York, and Jane, his wife, did purchase from the Earl of Abingdon, of Great Britain, and from Henry gage and Susanna, his wife, and others their trustees, two tracts or parcels of land situated in a place called Warrensburgh, in the town of Mohawk, county of Montgomery, State of New York, formerly part of the estate of Sir Peter Warren... said John Watts hath sold and conveyed sundry lots thereof to David Cady, Nathan Stanton, Ezra Murray, Phillip and Peter Frederick, William and Peter Youngs...Christian and Peter Service... and sundry others, with covenants on the part of said John Watts to convey the same in full to them on payment of certain sums... Signed and sealed 13 Nov 1793." [I am sure which Peter is spoken of - the immigrant or the son of Philip.]
8. Henry Z. Jones, "Even More Palatine Families, 18th Century Immigrants to the American Colonies and their German, Swiss and Austrian Origins," 2002, p. 316:
"Peter Jung. Georg Jung.
A Peter Jung and wife Anneke sp. Jacob Kohl in 1733/34 on the Eulenkill (NY City Lutheran Chbk). Petter Young and Jurry Young were recorded together on a tax list of Mohawk in 1766 ("Upstate New York in the 1760s," by Florence Christoph, p. 127). He possibly was the same man as Peter Jung/Young with wife Anna Eva who had among their issue:
1) Maria Catharina, b. or bpt. 1 June 1740 - sp: Joseph Walleslous (?), Maragaret snook, and Barbara Tochendorf (Fort Hunter Chbk).
2) Eva, bpt. 24 Oct 1742 - sp: Johannis Clyn (Fort Hunter Chbk).
3) Helena, bpt. 3 Feb 1743/44 - sp: Helena wallious (Fort Hunter Chbk).
DEATH:
1. Both Peter Young and his wife Anna Eve are listed as sponsors for one of their grandchildren in 1777. William Serviss, b. 12 Mar 1777 Florida, Montgomery Co., NY; d. abt 1840; m. Asanath Winager [or Aseanth Winegar]. "Compendium of Early Mohawk Valley Families," by Maryly Penrose, p. 721: Willem b. 3-13-1777 bpt. 4-25-1777, s/o William Service and Sophia Young, sponsors Peter Young and Eva Young.
SOURCES_MISC:
1. Henry Z. Jones is the author of three series of books on the Palatines: "The Palatine Families of New York: A Study of the German Immigrants Who arrived in New York in 1710," (1985); "More Palatine Families," (1991); and "Even More Palatine Families, 18th Century Immigrants to the American Colonies and their German, Swiss and Austrian Origins," 2002. I have reviewed all three and the very little I find is quoted above.
2. Per family group sheet archive record submitted by Mary J. King Timothy (5ggdau), 383 E 2 N, Kaysville, Utah. She references: "N.Y. 46 vol.2 p.791; Ref.Duct Ch.Fonda; F. N.Y. F.4b p.62; wills of Montgomery Co.; F. N.Y. M12a vol.3 p.11."
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Chris & Julie Petersen's Genealogy
Abt 1702 - Aft 1777 (~ 76 years)