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Louisa Winner

Female Abt 1830 -


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  • Name Louisa Winner 
    Born Abt 1830  Dover Township, Monmouth, New Jersey, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Person ID I1205  Petersen-de Lanskoy
    Last Modified 27 May 2021 

    Father George King Winner,   b. Abt 15 Aug 1807, Toms River, Monmouth, New Jersey, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Sep 1877, near LaHonda, San Mateo, California, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 70 years) 
    Mother Hanna P.,   b. Abt 1809, of, Monmouth, New Jersey, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1853, San Bernardino, San Bernardino, California, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 44 years) 
    Married Abt 1827  of Dover, Monmouth, New Jersey, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F818  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • RESEARCH_NOTES:
      1. Censuses:
      1830 US: New Jersey, Monmouth County, Dover Township, P.374: George K. Winner, 1 M 20-30, 2 F Under 5, 1 F 15-20. [Probably George, his wife, and Mary Ann and Elizabeth]. Note: Other Winners in NJ census: Abby Winner, Gloucester Co., Egg Harbor Twp., p.198; Isaac Winner, Sussex Co., Green Twp., p.187 [note: there are two Isaacs listed with exactly same info]; Samuel Winner, Burlington Co., Evesham Twp., p.84. Further research needed to reconstruct Winner families in New Jersey. Dover township is now part of Ocean County since 1850.

      1840 US: New Jersey, Monmouth County, Dover Township, FHL film 016518: George K. Winner, Males (Ages: 1@under 5, 3@20-30, 1@30-40), Females (2@Under 5, 1@5-10, 1@10-15, 1@20-30), Four listed as Coastal Sailors. [Supposition: George was one of the "20-30" males and an "Ocean" sailor, the other three were sailing associates or relatives, the boy was Moroni [under 5], George's wife [20-30], Mary or Elizabeth [10-15; but why only 1 listed?], Louisa [5-10], Emmajean and possibly an unknown daughter [2@under 5: this is confusing - was there another unknown girl who died before the Ship Brooklyn sailing thus explaining the large gap of 6 to 7 years in childbirths?].

      1850 US: No record; San Francisco's portion of US Census was lost due to earthquake or fire.

      1852 US: California Statehood Census, Los Angeles County (pre-San Bernardino), p. 143; note this census began June 1852 in this county with county wide results of 7831 total residents of which 2494 were white males and 1597 were white females. It's preface to the state compilation says that only about 5 in every 6 were counted due to the frontier and mobile nature of the population:

      Winneo, George K. 46 MW N.J. Utah Farmer
      " Hanna 46 FW " "
      " Mary Ann 23 FW " "
      " Emojine 15 FW " "
      " Moroni 10 MW " "
      " Israel 8 MW " "
      " Adalade 7 FW Cal. Cal.
      This census is important and invites several interesting comments as follows:
      i. No David Frederick [Mary Ann's future husband] even though he had moved to S.B. at least by 22 Mar 1852 where the colony clerk notes him making a payment to the colony. Mary Ann living at home unmarried, yet her daughter Georgiana will be born within 6 months or less. This lends credence to Daisy Van Wagoner's grandfather's [Mary Ann's great grandson] handwritten note that Georgiana's father was not David Frederick but a possible "George Oakley" [or a variation thereof since he slightly misspells other names on the note]. There is no such individual yet found in my research for either San Bern. or San Fran. or from 1860/70 censuses of adjoining states; however, there is a merchant George Oakes in 1851 in S.Fran. just a couple of blocks from where Winner's property was in 1846 in Bancroft's History - could he have fathered the child out of wedlock or a quickly annulled marriage in early March 1852 perhaps leading to George's removal of his family 3 Mar 1852 from San Fran. to San Bern. She was married to David Frederick by 1 May 1854 since she is mentioned in Amasa Lyman's journal as the wife of David; he was twice her age which may be explained perhaps by marriage to a woman with an out-of-wedlock child. This is merely conjecture on my part at this point and Georgiana may just have been a premature baby who did in fact die six months after birth and the marriage of David and Mary Ann may have in fact preceded conception.
      ii. Some of the info seems close but suspect and may have been given by a neighbor; they had not lived in Utah, the WINNEO misspelling of WINNER, and the ages vary: Adalades' age would mean she was born in 1845 before arriving in CA in 1846, Moroni's age is at variance to the 1870 census, etc.
      iii. Mother's name listed as "Hanna" which coincides with P.P. Pratt's diary entry of "Hanna P. Winner".

      2. Nothing concrete has been found on Louisa to date. I have found the following possibilities which remain very speculative at this time:
      A. 1853 CA: FHL Book "San Francisco County, Oct 1852" census for California State by F.A. Nesbitt, stamped page 247, shows: "Winner, Louisa, age 15, sex FW, no occupation, birthplace N.Y., residence N.Y.." Sequentially, she is listed with the family of Jacob Graves [age 42, laborer, and from N.Y.], his wife Mrs. Graves [age 38, from N.Y.], and their five children [Eveline, Harriet, Ann Eliza, Noel, and Geo. T., ages 9, 7, 5, 3, and 1 respectively all born N.Y.]. Louisa is not shown in 1852 California state census with rest of the Winner family in San Bernardino, CA [who moved there March 1852]. This could be the right Louisa since she is young, alone, and perhaps attached to a family as "help." The age is a contradiction since if she were born in 1830 as has been supposed, but unsubstantiated thus far, she would have been 22. The reported birthplace of N.Y. could be a census taker's error by his assuming she matched the rest of the family.
      B. Reviewed an index for 1870 US: San Mateo County of California [FHL film 545587] for every female with the first name of Louisa - none shown as the appropriate age nor from New Jersey.
      C. California statewide 1880 census search for California for any Louisa born 5 years either side of 1830 in California provides only one possibility: Louisa Leith, 50, widow, NJ NJ NJ in San Francisco, p. 59B, living at #5 Folsom Ave. There is a son with her age 24, born in CA, a seaman, showing father born in Scotland (but not listed). This bears further research.
      Same Louisa shows in 1870 census for 11th Ward, San Francisco, p. 170 with no husband noted, dwelling 1261, family 1143:
      Louisa Leith, 45, keeps house, $15,000 real estate, $5,000 personal prop., NJ.
      John Leith, 15, CA, father foreign born.
      Same Louisa shows up in the 1860 census for the 2nd District in San Francisco, dwelling 964, family 969; the presence of Catherine Marr, who looks like perhaps a mother, is problematic in regards to this being Louisa Winner:
      Louisa Leith, 31, dressmaker, b. NJ.
      Catherine Marr, 63, b. NJ.
      John H. Leith, 5, b. CA.
      D. LDS Ordinance Index shows a Louisa Winner marrying a Linal Robson in Logan County, Ohio, 2 Aug 1862. Seems too far removed from California to be right one, but one should be aware of same just in case.
      E. Source unknown but appears to be some type of passenger list to San Francisco, p. 232. Shows the ship "New Orleans" arriving 14 Dec 1852 from Panama. Among the passengers is a "Mrs. Louisa Winner." No other Winners nor additional information on Louisa shown. The "Mrs." makes this entry unlikely for our Louisa.

      BIOGRAPHY:
      1. Arrived with her family via the ship Brooklyn in Yerba Buena (San Francisco) 31 Jul 1846.

      2. "Passenger List per Brooklyn from New York, Capt. A.W. Richardson, June 22, 1846," found in Hawaii by Mr. John D. Fretwell, 4012 Maywood Dr. S., Fresno, CA 93703-3330. Copy of original which was folded and contained all names on ship: "Manifest of Passengers on board Ship Brooklyn wharf A.C. Richarson is master... [contains a full listing including the following:]
      George K. Winner, United States, 39 years, Coasting Captain.
      Hannah Winner, United States, 37 years.
      Six children."

      ACTION:
      1. Check further into Louisa Leith shown above in 1870/1880 census.