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4801 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I5338)
 
4802 RESEARCH_NOTEs:
1. I originally had "Zuriah" as a male md. to Dorothy ___. After I found the birth record below, it became apparent "Zuruiah" was the "daughter of Charles." Some have Zuriah md. to Dorothy ___; however, I see no proof of this nor would it be consistent with the gender.

2. The book "The Phelps Family of America and their English Ancestors," comp. by Oliver Seymour Phelps of Portland, Oregon and Andrew T. Servin of Lenox, Massachusetts, 1899, pp. 138-139:
A. "Charles Phelps, b. Hebron, Ct., 26 July 1702, m. 17 Feb 1726, Hepzibah Stiles, b. Boxford, Mass., 7 Nov 1709, d. Hebron, Ct., dau. or Robert and Ruth (Bridges) Stiles. Mr Phelps settled in Hebron, Ct., where he died. Children b. Hebron, Ct.:
I. Amy, b. 11 Nov 1726.
II. Zuriah, b. 3 Apr 1729, m. Dorothy.
III. Charles, b. 22 Sep 1732, m. Hannah Dennison.
IV. Lydia (Lidu), b. 1 Mar 1738, m. Job Stiles Jr.
V. Ashbel, b. 28 Apr 1743, m. possibly Jemima Buell.
VI. Bethuel, b. 25 Apr 1744, m. Caroline Lord.
VII. Timothy, b. 29 May 1745, m. Sarah Skinner.
VIII. James, b. 29 May 1745. (Note - This James is given by Dr. C.A. Phelp's tree, and also in Stiles' old, though not in 2nd edition. We think this an error.)"
B. P. 218: "Zuriah Phelps, b. Hebron, CT, 3 Apr 1729, m. Dorothy ___. Mr. Phelps was a farmer. He appears to have settled in the eastern part of the state, probably Lyme, Ct. He appears to have been a pensioner in Middletown, CT, at the age of 79 years. Children born Lyme, CT:
I. Elijah, b. 13 May 1753 or 4, m. Mary Gibbs.
II. Charles.
III. William.
IV. Joseph.
V. Daniel.
VI. Benjamin.
VII. Dorothy, m. probably Lemuel Warren.

3. Henry R. Stiles, "The History and Genealogies of Ancient Windsor, Connecticut," 1892, v. 2, p. 571: "Charles Phelps (son of Timothy, g.son of Lt. Timothy, gg.son of William) m. 26 Feb 1726, Hepzibah (dau. Robert) Stiles; she was of the Massachusetts Stiles family, and therefore was not, as has been claimed, a cousin of Pres. Stiles of Yale College; she was born Boxford, Mass., 7 Nov 17(prob. '09). Children (b. Hebron, CT.):
A. Amay, b. 11 Nov 1726.
B. Zuriah, b. 3 Apr 1729.
C. Charles, b. 22 Sep 1732.
D. Ashbel, b. 28 Apr 1743.
E. Timothy, b. 29 May 1745.
F. Bethuel, b. 25 Apr 1748."
[Book does not have any Stiles biography of this line.]

BIRTH:
1. Website 4 Sep 2007 www.douglaslibrary.org/barbour. The Douglas Library in Hebron, Connecticut has "Town of Hebron Vital Records: Barbour Collection 1708-1854," p. 103: "Zuruiah Phelps, d. Charles, b. Apr. 3, 1729, v. 1. p. 18."
No marriage or death record. 
Phelps, Zuruiah (I2090)
 
4803 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I4615)
 
4804 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. I reviewed the Doddington parish records from 1665 to 1710 [large gap from 1640 to 1665] and there are no other entries for the names Clinch or Dancy in this parish. The marriage entry is transcribed below and makes no mention of either of the two belonging to another parish. The script in the marriage entry is extremely legible and there is no chance of a misinterpretation of the spelling. Elizabeth Dancy's origins remain a mystery.

2. Constructed Family Groups from extracted Otterden Church Records. See notes of Edward Clench (1532-1596 for detailed extractions. Source: FHL film 1752060, item 2, Archdeacon's Transcript of Otterden, Kent, England; begins 1570 but missing 1588/9, 1594/5, 1606/7, 1622/23, 1640/41-1660/61, 1681/82, 1682/83; half year only ofr 1673/74, 1677/78, 1679/80, 1683/84, 1727/28, 1750/51. Source: FHL film 1736930, item 1, Bishop's Transcript of Otterden; begins 1603 but missing 1604/5-1611/12, 1613/14, 1621/22, 1627/28, 1640/41, 1642/43-1661/62, 1675/76, 1696/97...:
Family 1: Edward and Rose. Edward Clench listed as churchwarden 1581. Edward Clinch signs transcript 1593/94. John Style of Ulcombe wydower and Rose Clynch of Otterynden wydow were maryd 27 May 1596. [Edward is probable son of John and Johan Clench.]
15 May 1572, Jane Clench, c., d/o Edward Clenche and Roose his wyffe.
7 Feb 1573/4, Thomassen Clench, c., d/o Edward Clench and Roose his wyffe.
6 Nov 1575, John Clench, c., s/o Edward Clench and Roose his wyffe; bur. 10 Jun 1576. s/o Edward Clench a child.
16 Nov 1578, Benet Clench, c., d/o Edward Clench and Roose his wyffe.
13 Aug 1581, Margriett Clench c., d/o Edward Clench and Roose his wyffe.
19 Jun 1586, Edward Clench, c., s/o Edward Clench and Roose his wyffe.
12 Apr 1589, Elizabeth Clench, c. d/o Edward Clench and Roose his wyffe; bur. 27 Mar 1591, a child, d/o Edward Clench and Roose his wyffe.
Family 2: John and ???. 12 Sep 1582, John Clenche was buryed 12 Sep 1582..
12 Aug 1575, Rebecca Clench, a maiden, bur., d/o of John Clench.
Family 3: Anthony and ???. Antonie Clench, housekeeper, bur. 23 Mar 1609/10. [Probable brother of Edward of Family 1 above and son of John and Johan Clench.]
Family 3: Edward and [Elizabeth Pierce]:
15 Dec 1611, "the sonne of Edwarde Clenche still borne" bur.
12 Jul 1614, Elisabeth Clenche, c., d/o Edwarde Cle. [Clench]. 27 Jan 1639/40, Edward Gurner and Elizabeth Clench, mar.
11 May 1617, Sara Clinche, c., d/o Edward Clynche.
25 Nov 1620, Edwarde Clynce [Clynche], c., s/o Edwarde.
8 Feb 1623/4, James Clynche, c., s/o Edwarde Clynch. Probably the James Clinch, bur. 12 Aug 1688.
4 Aug 1627, Anne Clynche, c., d/o Edwarde Clynch.
10 Jul 1631, Solomon & Symon, c., sons/o Edwarde Clench.
Family 4: Edward and Mary. Edward Clinch, yeamon, bur. 10 Jan 1665/6.
12 Dec 1661, John, bur., s/o Edward Clinch.
6 Aug 1663, Samuell, c., s/o Edward Clinch and Mary his wife.
10 Jan 1665/6, Elizabeth, c., s/o Edward Clinch and Mary his wife
Family 5: Solomon and Frances: Solomon Clinch Parish Clark poor bur. [no day or month] 1684/5.
15 May 1663, William, c., s/o Solomon Clinch and ffrances his wife; bur. 31 May 1663, William, infant s/o of Solomon.
1 May 1664, William, c., s/o Solomon Clinch and ffrances his wife
4 Aug 1667, Edward, c., s/o Soloman Clynch and ffrances his wife
13 Nov 1672, Thomas, c., s/o of Solomon Clinch & ffrancis his wife.
Probable child b. say 1674, Solomon (no recorded christening). Solomon Clinch a youth bur. 28 Oct 1690.
Probable child b. say 1676 (no recorded christening). Sarah, bur. 28 May 1689, d/o of Wid. Clinch.
Unplaced Individuals
29 Jul 1673, James Clinch, bur., s/o Wm. Clinch.
31 Jan 1676/7, Edward Clinch and Ruth Stamford, marr.

3. Worldconnect 30 Jun 2007 database ":charliegibson" :
A. William Clinch (1675-1744) was born in Deans Bottom, Kent, England. William Clinch occupation is listed as a yeoman farmer. His Will left the farm to William Clinch Jnr. B. Birth: Film 183588, ref 4580, p131; Film 184324, p38, ref 838; Film 452782, ref 59241. C. Marriage: Film: 457318-457322; Film: 471424. 13 Apr 1695 in Doddington, Kent.

4. LDS Ordinance Index has several children listed to William and Elizabeth Clinch of Bicknor, Kent, England that were christened in the early 1700s. The images of Bicknor Parish are available online at Family Search. A look at the actual images show that there were two similarly named couples having children at the same time: William and Elizabeth Clinch and William and Elizabeth Winch. The record keeper is very careful to clearly differentiate the surname spellings. Using the actual records we can correctly assign the christenings as follows:
William and Elizabeth Clinch: [Note: no Frances is shown in the Bicknor record; also none of these children show up as child burials.]
- Anna, 24 Nov 1700
- Will., 16 Jan 1703/4
- James, 4 Mar 1707/8
William and Elizabeth Winch: [Note: none of these children show up as child burials.]
- Wm., 2 Feb 1709
- Elizabeth, 28 Dec 1712
- Anne, 9 Oct 1715
- John, 18 May 1718
- Mary, 23 Apr 1721
- Richard, 26 May 1723
William Winch may have remarried or this is his son's marriage to "Anne" since there is also a chr. shown to him and Anne his wife:
- Anne, 20 Jan 1739
There has always been a problem in identifying which Elizabeth Clinch was buried 21 Apr 1716 with some assuming it was the Elizabeth Clinch (now Winch) chr. 28 Dec 1712 or Elizabeth Dancy who was William Clinch's wife. Burials are missing for the years; however, we do have the following:
- "Elizabeth Clinch was buried Apr: 21st 1716."
- "February 2d 1736 Elizabeth Winch was Buried."
- "1744. Dec: 31st William Clinch."
- "Nomr. 15th 1744 Buried Wm. Clinch."
Considering the spelling and that Elizabeth Clinch no longer had children after 1708, the 1716 burial appears to be hers. The recorder did make an error in regards to the 1744 entries of the two William Clinches with one certainly William Winch; however, which is which is undetermined.
No marriage for Clinches or Winches were found from 1690 to 1745 in the parish.

5. Website of Roy L. Hales accessed 4 Jan 2016 ; Roy is a descendant of William Clinch, son of Stephen Hales and Ann Clinch. The following has the following typos when compared to the original will -- John Hawkes is John ffrankes and Ann is Frances (who is really Ann).
"William Clinch Our Ancestor (c May 1 1644, Otterden - Dec 31 1744 Bicknor) married Elizabeth Dancy in Doddington on April 30 1695. They lived in Dean's Bottom, a part of Bredgar parish close to the border of Stockbury, but are more closely associated with the church of Bicknor, a mile to the South.
Image to right taken from Bredgar assessment for 1734. [Website has image of assessment which shows "4, Wilm. Clinch - 00-04-00."]
In William Clinch's will, proved in 1744, he mentions two children. His daughter Ann married a labourer named John Hawkes and moved to Hucking. She was left £8. His son William Clinch the younger received the farm and a special clause in the will ensured that his wife, Ann Knight, would receive the woodland if her husband preceded her.
Their Children:
Anna Clinch (c Nov 24 1700 Bicknor) married John Hawkes
William Clinch (Our Ancestor) (3 Jan 1703 Bicknor - 9 Feb 1769, Stockbury)
James Clinch (c Mar 4 1707 Bicknor - died before 1744)"

MARRIAGE:
1. FHL FILM 1751815 item 4, Archdeacon's Transcript for Doddington Parish: "William Clinch was marryed to Elizabeth Dancy on ye thirtyeth day of Aprill 1695."

DEATH:
1. Website wills.canterbury-cathedral.org accessed 4 Jan 2015 indexes a will for William Clinch of Bredgar made 1742 and probated 1744. Register ref. PRC/17/92/92b (Original PRC/16/551 C/1). Will is filed with the Archdeaconry of Canterbury (pp. 45-48 of 304 for 1744) and available online at Family
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R56-X41?mode=g&i=46&owc=collection%2F1949814%2Fwaypoints&wc=M682-SNL%3A250713701%2C250719201%2C251470701%3Fcc%3D1949814&cc=1949814 which I accessed 4 Jan 2016. My extract of the will:
William Clinch of Breadgar, County Kent (Title on will notes "1744 William Clinch the Elder late of Bredgar his will.")
Bequeaths to "my Daughter ffrances now wife of John ffrankes of Hucking in the Said County Labourer eight pounds of good and lawfull money..."
Bequeaths to "my Son William Clynch All that my messuage ... [of] four acres ... in the Said parish of Breadgar called Deans Bottom..." with the property passing to his wife "Ann Clinch" in the case of his son's death as long as she remains a widow; if she dies or marries the property to pass to the child or children of William and Ann.
Son William Clinch to be executor.
Signed by mark. Witnessed by John York, Batcheller, and John Lossingham(?)
Note on cover: "January the 14th 1744[/5] Wm. Clinch the executor" attests that the estate will not exceed 20 pounds.
My comments:
1. From marriage records and christening records, we know that Ann Clinch married John Franks in 1722 at Stockbury and had at least three children all christened at Stockbury from 1722 to 1730. A 1700 christening record has been found for "Anna Clinch," but nothing for any Frances. Apparently the daughter Frances of the will is the same person as Ann the daughter.
2. The will confirms that William Senior's wife and son James had predeceased him.

BURIAL:
1. Bicknor Church Records (FHL film 1851040, item #6): "Elizabeth Clinch was buried Ap: 21st 1716."

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Worldconnect 17 Jun 2007 database ":2637493" of Mike Herod
Clinch, William (I3887)
 
4805 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. I reviewed the Doddington parish records from 1665 to 1710 [there was a large gap from 1640 to 1665 due to the Civil War] and there are no other entries for the names Clinch or Dancy in this parish. The marriage entry is transcribed below and makes no mention of either of the two belonging to another parish. The script in the marriage entry is extremely legible and there is no chance of a misinterpretation of the spelling. I also reviewed the records for Bicknor without finding Elizabeth's christening even though she has children christened in Bicknor.
I have done major extractions of both Bicknor and Stockbury for family names and it is apparent these two parishes had interchangeable families and attendance since the churches are literally less than three miles apart. Bicknor adjoins South Green in Stockbury and Dean's Bottom in Bredgar. William Clinch's family actually lived in Deans Bottom, but preferred to register their family in Bicknor. With this in mind and noting the scarcity of this name, the following Dancy entry in Stockbury is most likely our Elizabeth Dancy. It also helps that she is about a year younger than her husband. Elizabeth would have been almost 30 years old which probably explains why she only bore children until 1708. I feel this is most likely our Elizabeth Dancy.
From the Archdeacon's Transcript (FHL film 1752235, it. 2):
- Elisabeth d/o Robert & Anne Dancye, c. 23 June 1665
The pages for this time period are missing from the Parish Record (FHL film 1473718, it. 2); however, the Bishop's Transcript (FHL film 1737092, it. 3) does show it also: June 23, 1665 -- Elisabeth daughter of Rob: & Anne Dancy, bap.
I also did a search for any other Dancy in Stockbury for 1655 to 1675 and there are no more entries for this family. In fact, using the FHL's Kent Family Association's CD for transcriptions of the Stockbury records, there were no Dancys at all (they missed Elizabeth Dancy). The only potential entry could be:
-28 Sep 1701, Edward Parkingson and mary Danes, marr.
I am not sure why the marriage was performed in Doddington since this couple had no family there. It is a little over five miles north of Bicknor and about 3.5 miles north of Otterden. All of these parishes are very close. Apparently Robert Dancy was somewhat mobile.

2. LDS Ordinance Index has several children listed to William and Elizabeth Clinch of Bicknor, Kent, England that were christened in the early 1700s. The images of Bicknor Parish are available online at Family Search. A look at the actual images show that there were two similarly named couples having children at the same time: William and Elizabeth Clinch and William and Elizabeth Winch. The record keeper is very careful to clearly differentiate the surname spellings. Using the actual records we can correctly assign the christenings as follows:
William and Elizabeth Clinch: [Note: no Frances is shown in the Bicknor record; also none of these children show up as child burials.]
- Anna, 24 Nov 1700
- Will., 16 Jan 1703/4
- James, 4 Mar 1707/8
William and Elizabeth Winch: [Note: none of these children show up as child burials.]
- Wm., 2 Feb 1709
- Elizabeth, 28 Dec 1712
- Anne, 9 Oct 1715
- John, 18 May 1718
- Mary, 23 Apr 1721
- Richard, 26 May 1723
William Winch may have remarried or this is his son's marriage to "Anne" since there is also a chr. shown to him and Anne his wife:
- Anne, 20 Jan 1739
There has always been a problem in identifying which Elizabeth Clinch was buried 21 Apr 1716 with some assuming it was the Elizabeth Clinch (now Winch) chr. 28 Dec 1712 or Elizabeth Dancy who was William Clinch's wife. Burials are missing for the years; however, we do have the following:
- "Elizabeth Clinch was buried Apr: 21st 1716."
- "February 2d 1736 Elizabeth Winch was Buried."
- "1744. Dec: 31st William Clinch."
- "Nomr. 15th 1744 Buried Wm. Clinch."
Considering the spelling and that Elizabeth Clinch no longer had children after 1708, the 1716 burial appears to be hers. The recorder did make an error in regards to the 1744 entries of the two William Clinches with one certainly William Winch; however, which is which is undetermined.
No marriage for Clinches or Winches were found from 1690 to 1745 in the parish.

3. Worldconnect 30 Jun 2007 database ":charliegibson" :
A. Elizabeth Dancy (1674-1716) was born in Doddington, Kent, England. B. Birth: Film: 445398
C. Marriage: Film: 457318-457322; Film: 471424.13 Apr 1695 in Doddington, Kent.
My note: I verified the birth data purported by the above entry and find it to be bogus. There is no birth entries in Dodington for any Dancy in 1674. I also checked from 1665 to 1710 and there are no Dancy entries whatsoever except for the marriage which is correct as reported above. The film numbers are also incorrect with FHL film 445398 being for the 1880 US Census soundex. Perhaps the film numbers are those of another repository. In any case a review of the actual church record disproves a christening in Doddington.

4. Website of Roy L. Hales accessed 4 Jan 2016 ; Roy is a descendant of William Clinch, son of Stephen Hales and Ann Clinch. The following has the following typos when compared to the original will -- John Hawkes is John ffrankes and Ann is Frances (who is really Ann).
"William Clinch Our Ancestor (c May 1 1644, Otterden - Dec 31 1744 Bicknor) married Elizabeth Dancy in Doddington on April 30 1695. They lived in Dean's Bottom, a part of Bredgar parish close to the border of Stockbury, but are more closely associated with the church of Bicknor, a mile to the South.
Image to right taken from Bredgar assessment for 1734. [Website has image of assessment which shows "4, Wilm. Clinch - 00-04-00."]
In William Clinch's will, proved in 1744, he mentions two children. His daughter Ann married a labourer named John Hawkes and moved to Hucking. She was left £8. His son William Clinch the younger received the farm and a special clause in the will ensured that his wife, Ann Knight, would receive the woodland if her husband preceded her.
Their Children:
Anna Clinch (c Nov 24 1700 Bicknor) married John Hawkes
William Clinch (Our Ancestor) (3 Jan 1703 Bicknor - 9 Feb 1769, Stockbury)
James Clinch (c Mar 4 1707 Bicknor - died before 1744)"

MARRIAGE:
1. FHL FILM 1751815 item 4, Archdeacon's Transcript for Doddington Parish: "William Clinch was marryed to Elizabeth Dancy on ye thirtyeth day of Aprill 1695."

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Worldconnect 17 Jun 2007 database ":2637493" of Mike Herod
Dancy, Elizabeth (I3629)
 
4806 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. I searched FHL films 1752235 item #2, Archdeacon's Transcript of Stockbury and 1835742 item #1, Bishop's Transcript of Stockbury for marriages and/or burials for the children of James Nichols and Margaret Waterman from their christenings until 1850 and found neither.

CHRISTENING:
1. FHL film 1752235 item #2, Archdeacon's Transcript of Stockbury: Parents noted as James and Margaret Nichols. 
Nichols, Jane (I2789)
 
4807 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. I searched FHL films 1752235 item #2, Archdeacon's Transcript of Stockbury and 1835742 item #1, Bishop's Transcript of Stockbury for marriages and/or burials for the children of James Nichols and Margaret Waterman from their christenings until 1850 and found neither.

CHRISTENING:
1. FHL film 1752235 item #2, Archdeacon's Transcript of Stockbury: Parents noted as James and Margaret Nickolls. 
Nichols, Sarah (I1600)
 
4808 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. I searched FHL films 1752235 item #2, Archdeacon's Transcript of Stockbury and 1835742 item #1, Bishop's Transcript of Stockbury for marriages and/or burials for the children of James Nichols and Margaret Waterman from their christenings until 1850 and found neither.

CHRISTENING:
1. FHL film 1752235 item #2, Archdeacon's Transcript of Stockbury: Parents noted as James and Margaret Nichols. 
Nichols, Mary (I1587)
 
4809 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. I searched FHL films 1752235 item #2, Archdeacon's Transcript of Stockbury and 1835742 item #1, Bishop's Transcript of Stockbury for marriages and/or burials for the children of James Nichols and Margaret Waterman from their christenings until 1850 and found neither.

CHRISTENING:
1. FHL film 1752235 item #2, Archdeacon's Transcript of Stockbury: Parents noted as James and Margaret Nichols.

DEATH:
1. Some have purported a Jul 1873 burial in Stockbury, but no such event is recorded a couple of years either side of this date. See FHL film 1835742 item #1, Bishop's Transcript of Stockbury. 
Nichols, James (I370)
 
4810 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. I use George Crawford as the husband. Consider the following:
A. "Itawamba County Marriage Book 1"at has about 2 dozen marriages solemnized by "Samuel Adair" starting from mid-1841 to late 1844. A couple of recognizable names include: "George Crawford and Jane Mangum 8 Jun 1841."
B. No early LDS ordinance work is done for Jedediah Brown. All entries are from the 1990's whereas Jane's is from late 1800's and early 1900's as noted in her notes. No Jedediah shows up in any sources whereas George Crawford does and I am in communication with one of their descendants of theirs: Paula Haymon .
C. Samuel Newton Adair, who grew up with the Mangums, in the following document clearly links George Crawford to "Jeney" Mangum. From Don and Carolyn Smith from one of three part writings of Samuel Newton Adair. [When asked who has the original of this, Carolyn referred me to Becky Hamblin [bhamblin79@hotmail.com] to try to locate the original of this; Becky in turn believes Collins Chapman in Mesa may have it since Collins' mother is the granddaughter who hand wrote it for Samuel. It has not yet been located by Becky. The following is one of the three parts [see Samuel Newton Adair's notes for full quotation]: "Luna, New Mexico, October 7, 1919. I, Samuel Newton Adair, will write what I know about my mother's folks. My grandfather's name was John Mangum and he married Rebecca Noles, so my grandmother's name was Rebecca Mangrum, my grandfather Mangum was a revolutionary soldier with General Morgan (one of his minute men.) He was taken prisoner with a lot of other men by the British soldiers and they set them on a log and split their heads open, all but my grandfather's and he had some kind of varmint skin cap on and that and the skull stopped the force of the sword and it glanced off and cut his ear nearly off and they turned him lose. He married after the war was over as stated above. Their children are: Cyrus Mangrum, Joseph Mangrum, John Mangrum, William Mangrum and James Mangrum. The daughter's names were: Jeney Mangrum, Gemima Mangrum, Rebecca Mangrum, and Lucinda Mangum. They were all my uncles and aunts. Joseph Mangrum married Emiline Hanner, William married Aunt Sally Adair, John married Aunt Mary Ann Adair, James Mangrum married Jane Clark, my father's niece. I don't know who Uncle Cyrus Mangum married. Jeney Mangrum married George Crawford, Gemima Mangrum married Samuel Jefferson Adair, my father. Rebecca Mangrum married Joseph Adair, my father's cousin. Lucinda Mangrum married James Richey, my father's nephew."
D. I have been in communication with Paula Haymon of Maryland who is a descendant of Jane Mangum and George Crawford. Paula is working on establishing Jane as the daughter of John Mangum and Rebecca Mangum. There is nothing but circumstantial evidence that is somewhat compelling. Many records show Jane married to Jedediah M. Brown, but there has never been any proof of this except for an undocumented note in the Mangum book by Delta Ivie Mangum Hale. On the other hand, the website has the county list of marriages of Itawamba County, Mississippi. Samuel Adair performed a marriage between her and George Crawford on 8 Jun 1841. Samuel would have been Jane's brother-in-law since he was married to Jane's sister Jemima. Jane Mangum and her husband did not follow all the other Mangums and Adairs to Iowa/Utah/Arizona. The 7 Oct 1919 written testimony of Samuel Newton Adair wherein he states Jeney Mangum, daughter of John and Rebecca Mangum married George Crawford, is the compelling link eliminating Jedediah Brown and adding George Crawford. Samuel would have been in a good position to have known this. As a side note, the names Jane and Jeney [Jenny] have long been accepted as interchangeable names for Jane. Paula's data is at the following Ancestry.com website: . She notes: "I have located a Cyrus Mangum whom I believe to be the son of John, in Pickens County, AL in 1840 and 1850, and Lavaca County, TX in 1860. I have the names of some of his children from these census records on my Ancestry.com site. I do not have the surname of his wife, however in 1850 and 1860 her first name is given as Lucinda. I began this search on him as my ancestor since Jane Mangum Crawford named a son John Cyrus. I wanted to determine if her father was Cyrus or John. Although most genealogies list Jane Mangum, daughter of John as married to a Jedediah Brown, I have a primary record for Jane Mangum's marriage to George Crawford in Itawamba County, MS in 1841. The Cyrus Mangum family [Kerry's note: Cyrus was John's son through his second wife Gemima Goggins.]:
Father: Cyrus Mangum, b: 1803 in South Carolina [Kerry's note: Newberry, Newberry, SC.]
Mother: Lucinda Unknown, b: 1812 in South Carolina
Children per Census of Pickens County, AL for 1850 and Census of Lavaca County, TX for 1860 US:
Mary Mangum, Sex: F Birth: 1830. Marriage: John Turman, b: 1822 in Tennessee, married: 1850 in Pickens County, AL. (Logical conclusions: I have placed Mary Turman in Cyrus's family as they lived near each other in both 1850 and 1860. I am not certain that his daughter in 1830 census is Mary but, here is what I've found. The daughter in the "Under 5" category of the 1830 Pickens County, AL census would have been 20-24 years old in 1850. As she was the only child in 1830, some conclusions may be drawn. (1) Cyrus and Lucinda were probably married within the past year or two. (2) With no other children, this makes her probably under two, highly likely to be under one and born in 1830. (2) Therefore, her age in 1850 is most likely toward the low end of the 20-24 range and is most probably 20. On page 11a of the Pickens County, AL., 1850 census, one page away from the Cyrus Mangum family, are Mary (20, b. in AL) and John Terman (28 b in TN). In 1860 in Lavaca County, TX, on page 193, the family immediately above Cyrus Mangum is Mary and John Turman, ages 30 and 38 with birthplaces of AL and TN, respectively.)
David Mangum, Sex: M Birth: 1833
Elizabeth Mangum, Sex: F Birth: 1836
Warren Mangum, Sex: M, Birth: 1837
Nancy Mangum, Sex: F, Birth: 1840
Alaham Mangum, Sex: M, Birth: 1844
John Mangum, Sex: M, Birth: 1850"
Paula continues: "Although I am becoming increasingly convinced that my Jane is John's daughter, because 'accepted' genealogies have her married to the wrong man [Jedediah Brown] and born in the wrong place, I have to search all the possibilities. That is, I know that my Jane Mangum married in Itawamba County, that the only family of Mangums in Itawamba County are John's family. But as yet, I have no 'smoking gun', so to speak, to directly connect her to him, a will would be handy but does not appear to exist. [These comments were made by Paula before we found Samuel Newton Adair's testimony giving us confidence of the link of George Crawford and Jane.] So, I have been 'proving' the connection by disproving other possibilities, e.g., did a granddaughter come with them to MS, etc. and making associations, e.g., my Jane Mangum and George Crawford were married by Samuel Adair. Curiously, I can find no listing of children for the Mangum - Brown connection, nor can I find a Jedediah, or even a J* Brown in any pertinent census years. I have corresponded via e-mail with Dr. Palmer and he knows of no primary record for the Jedediah Brown marriage. It almost seems as though the Jedediah Brown information was asserted, without any accompanying proof, by a descendant of a collateral line who was trying to get into the DAR. As it wasn't important to the claimant's request for DAR membership, it went unchallenged. I certainly have a lot of information on her, and others, that is of the pass along type and I don't have proof for it yet. The only thing I can surmise for all these Jane Mangum incongruities is that there were three Jane Mangum's born about 1824 - 1826 time frame: one in Tennessee, one in South Carolina, and one in Alabama, John's daughter. The South Carolina Jane Mangum married an M. D. Brown. The Tennessee woman, Sarah Jane Mangum, was born in Hardin County, in 1826 and married Daniel Hitchcock. My Jane Mangum was born in May of 1825, in Alabama, as she reports on most every census. Of course she could have been born in TN while her mother was visiting there and was not aware of it. Curiously, again, Jane Mangum Crawford apparently claimed to one of her children to have been born in Scotland, who knows why, or at what time in her life. Looks like to me that all the Janes were 'stirred' together and came out as one person. Jane Mangum Crawford died in 1904 in Oklahoma. At least her tombstone has that date. If my Jane Mangum is John and Rebecca's daughter, any and all of her work would have been done as proxies, if that's the correct word, as she never became Mormon, but was, I think, a Baptist, as were most of the Crawfords. On searches that I have done for 'Jane Mangum' on familysearch.org, I have noticed that the only marriage that is listed that is from a primary source is the Crawford one, the Jedediah Brown info is not only not primary but and is very vague, e.g. anywhere from 1840-1854 and Tennessee to Alabama to Mississippi for the same event. That's piling on the suspicions for me. I don't have obituaries, but another Crawford cousin is sending photos of Jane's tombstone. I don't know quite why, again, but it has her name as Virginia Crawford. In all official records, she used Jane, not only her marriage but also census. I will ask if they know of any obituaries for them and start searching if they don't. Newspapers were few and far between in Indian Territory for Jane; George has a higher chance as he died in Arkansas." The following is per 2 May 2003 gedcom from Paula on file for George and Jane [there are several descending generations and source documentation on the gedcom that I do not transcribe except for bio data for George and Jane's children and spouses]:
Husband: George Washington Crawford, b: 1810 in North Carolina or South Carolina. Married 8 Jun 1841 in Itawamba, MS. Death: Aft. 1880 in Clarksville, Johnson Co, AR. George's father: Thomas Crawford, b: 1784 in VA.
Wife: Jane Mangum, b. May 1825 in Alabama. Death: 9 Nov 1904 in Beardon, Okfuskee County, OK.
Children:
Amanda Crawford, b: 1842 in Itawamba Co., MS; in 1850 census for Itawamba Co., MS.
Thomas Jefferson Crawford, b: 11 Sep 1845 in MS, m. Lucinda Taylor 27 Dec 1866 in Itawamba Co., MS, d. 1923 Ben Lomond, Sevier, AR; in 1850 census for Itawamba Co., MS; in 1900 census of Sevier Co., AR; Lucinda Taylor, b. Jan 1851 in MS. [From Mary Jackson 16 Nov 2008, who is another descendant of Thomas and Lucinda: the gravestones are both found in Ben Lomond, Sevier Co., AR and read "T J Crawford Co D Miss Cav CSA Nov 9, 1845 - Feb 17, 1923" and "Lucinda Crawford, 1851-1920." Mary also has photos of Thomas and his sons.]
John Cyrus Crawford, b: Jun 1848 in Itawamba Co., MS, m. Cassie Brown; may be in Sevier Co. near his brother in the 1900 census under John S.
Nancy Catherine Crawford, b: Mar 1850 in Itawamba Co., MS, m. James Alfred Nixon 27 Feb 1873 at Itawamba Co., MS, d. and bur. Coalgate, Coal, OK. James Nixon b. 1848 in MS, d. 13 Feb 1928 in Calhoun Co., MS, and bur. in Springhill Cemetery in MS.
Flora C. Crawford, b: 1853.
Silas Crawford, b: Abt 1856.
Mary Jane Crawford, b: 1859, d. 20 Nov 1879.
William Jefferson Davis Crawford, b: 28 Apr 1861 in Choctaw Co., MS, m. America J. Miller, d. 1 Jan 1941 at Paden, Okfuskee, OK.
George Washington Crawford, Jr., b: 30 Apr 1864 in Calhoun Co., MS, m. Amber Bell Owen 5 Jan 1896 at Coalgate, Coal, OK, d. 3 Apr 1911 at Battiest, McCurtain, OK. Amber b. 1872 in VA.

2. Censuses:
1850 US: Itawamba Co., MS, p. 313A:
George W. Crawford, 40.
Jane, 28.
Armanda F., 8 [sloppy handwriting - may be Aminda].
Thomas J., 5.
John C., 3.
Nancy C., 6/12.

1860 US: Itawamba Co., MS, p. 204 of 357, Fulton P.O., 18 Aug 1860, Thomas and George live next to each other (Thomas is presumed to be the father of George.):
Dwelling/household 1343:
Thomas Crawford, 76, farmer, $550 personal estate, b. VA.
Dwelling/household 1344:
George Crawford, 50, farmer, $300/$100, b. NC.
Jane, 35, AL.
Thomas, 15, farm laborer, MS.
Cyrus, 12, MS.
Nancy, 10, MS.
Flora C., 7, MS.
Mary J., 1, MS.

1870 US: Township 9, Itawamba Co., MS, 20 Aug 1870, Fulton P.O., p. 35 of 44, George Crawford and his son Thomas live next to each other:
Dwelling/family #243:
George Crawford, 55 farmer, $200/$300, SC.
Jane, 55, keeping house, Georgia.
Nancy, 20, MS.
Mary, 14, MS.
George, 12, farm laborer, MS.
Davis, 9, MS.
Paddy (female), 3, MS.
Dwelling/family #244:
Thomas Crawford, 26, farm laborer, MS.
Lousinda, 23, keeping house, MS.
Joseph, 3, MS.
Jane, 3/12, MS.
Cyrus, 22, farm laborer, MS.

1880 US: Cove, Polk, Arkansas per NA Film T9-0054, p. 526D (Note: Son John C. Crawford shows in same census in Union Co., MS and indicates his father was born in SC and mother in AL.):
G.W. Crawford, 67, farmer, NC VA VA.
Jane, wife, 54, AL VA SC.
Mary J., dau., 21, MS NC AL.
William D., son, 15, MS NC AL.
George W., son, 13, MS NC AL.
Frances Boling, gdau., 12, MS AL __.

3. Early St. George, Utah, temple work shows a daughter of George and Jane Crawford, Araminda Frances Adair, b. 1841 and d. 1860, receiving ordinance work 27 Nov 1877 by Adair relatives.

4. FHL periodical "Itawamba Settlers" has a listing of G.W. Crawford on the 1846 Tax List of Itawamba County, Mississippi.

MARRIAGE:
1. See notes above for marriage.

2. "Itawamba County Marriage Book 1"at has about 2 dozen marriages solemnized by "Samuel Adair" starting from mid-1841 to late 1844. A couple of recognizable names include: "George Crawford and Jane Mangum 8 Jun 1841."

3. FHL film 901648 "Marriages of Itawamba Co., Mississippi," vol. 1, p. 49:
"George Crawford to Jane Mangum. To any Minister of the Gospel, Judge of the State of Mississippi, of Judge, Justice, or Officer of Itawamba County authorized to celebrate marriages: Greeting - You are hereby licensed to celebrate the rites of matrimony between George Crawford and Jane Mangum and you will return unto the office of the Probate Court of said County a certificate hereon of the solemnization thereof. Witness J. Robins, Clerk of said Court and the seal thereunto annexed the 7th day of June 1841. J. Robins, Clerk by the Dept. L. J. Copeland."
"In virtue hereof the rites of matrimony between George Crawford and Jane Mangum were duly celebrated by me 8th day of June 1841. Samuel Adair, Minister of the Gospel."

DEATH:
1. See Burial information below.

BURIAL:
1. There appears to be two differing opinions on the burial spot for George. Mary Jackson below is a proponent of Penney Cemetery location whereas Ola Mae Trout proposes Hilton Cemetery. I include both of their comments as follows. Please note my opinion in item C below:
A. Email from Mary Mills Jackson [mailto:jackj@valornet.com] 16 Nov 2008. Mary is the great grand-daughter of George and Virginia. Her comments:
"I am so glad that you have the correct information on my great grandmother, Jane Mangum Crawford. I was disappointed in the book that I ordered "John Mangum, American Revolutionary Soldier and Descendants" that on page 19, it had her married to a different man (Jedediah Brown) with a different date of death of 1913 rather than Nov. 1904. I called & talked with Mrs. Dallas Mangum in Utah. She said that they could not guarantee any information in the book was correct.
I found Virginia Crawford's marker in Bearden Cemetery in OK & called and talked with Mrs. Amber Ott (she lives in OK & stated that she had spent 50 yrs. doing genealogy research). She said that the back of the marker of Virginia Crawford had her daughter-in-law's name on it (America Crawford).
I am in the process of ordering a grave marker for George Washington Crawford who married Virginia Jane Mangum. He is buried in Penny Cemetery. Penney Cemetery is located in Sevier County, Arkansas, in a small rural community called Falls Chapel. It sits to the left side of Highway 71 going north towards the city of Lockesburg.
My deceased Uncle Jack Crawford (great grandson of George Washington Crawford & my deceased brother, Joel "Buddy" Mills III marked the grave with some gravel. I know the lady that mows this cemetery & she remembers all of this. There all some huge rocks in the cemetery & some of the markers were stolen per the lady that now mows the cemetery. According to family story, my Uncle Jack & his father, William Arthur (Pa Jack) had visited the cemetery many years before & knew that George Washington Crawford was buried there. I want to put on it his wife's name & where she is buried for future generations.
My records show that he was born around 1810 in North Carolina. The Crawford Exchange records state that he was born Jan. 15, 1813 in McMinn, TN.
He died 3 Aug 1882 near Board Camp, Polk County, Arkansas. Polk County is north of Sevier County going towards Mena, AR.
I have a copy of his son, Thomas Jefferson Crawford's (my great grandfather) death certificate. Thomas J. Crawford lists his father's name as George Crawford born in Alabama & it shows his mother as Jane Graham, born in Alabama. The information was supplied by Ollie Hallman (sister). However, I believe that they misunderstood the mother's name. His place of burial is the Ben Lomond, Arkansas cemetery."
Mary, in a follow-up email after reviewing Ola Mae's notes below added the following comment on 30 Nov 2008: "You have some interesting thoughts on George Washington Crawford. However, my grandfather (William Arthur) & his brother (Lon Crawford) told my Uncle Jack Crawford that their great grandfather (George Washington Crawford) was buried in the Penney Cemetery in Sevier County, AR. I talked with my older brother. He remembers that our Great Uncle Lon (Alonzo Crawford, who was grandson of GWC) and another relative going to get a truckload of yellow gravel and hauling it to the Penney Cemetery and putting it on the location of the GWC grave. The lady that mows the cemetery said that she knew well where the gravel was because that was the only gravel in that cemetery and she has hit it on her mower. I truly believe that this is where he was laid to rest & I intend to place a marker in this cemetery for him. I have been unable to find a Hilton Cemetery listed with those buried in it in Polk County. Until I have more proof, I still believe that he (GWC) is buried in Sevier County. I have an Aunt that that died in 1997 at the age of 87 & she said that he was buried there also. She always said that her father's family came from Board Camp, AR.
I asked the lady, Mrs. Ott, in OK if she knew why that he would be buried there. She said perhaps he was traveling somewhere. Sevier County is just below Polk County in Arkansas."
B. Email correspondence from Ola Mae Trout 11/30/08 in regards to my inquiry of 11/28/08:
Response: "Hello Kerry, thanks for the information you sent. To answer your question, I have not seen the tombstone at Hilton Cemetery. In June 2006 I meet a lady in Mena, who said she was part of the Crawford family. She told me about the grave, and said it had a stone. The cemetery is out in a pasture, and very hard to find. We tried finding the cemetery, could not. After we came home, I did find in a listing on Rootsweb/Polk Co. where the Hilton cemetery had survived, and his name and date was listed. So later a cousin from Ark. went and found the cemetery (in the summer time) - it was so grown up with trees growing through graves and so much brush, they were afraid to walk and look through it all. I looked through the Polk Co., Ar. listings this morning and didn't find the listing. Guess it had been taken off. I had been told before this, that this George Washington Crawford was buried in Clarksville, AR, having the same date. I have not given up on trying to visit the Hilton cemetery some time. But don't know when that will be."
My inquiry: "Hello, You had the following message posted: Does anyone know who this George Crawford who died Aug. 3, 1882 and is buried in Hilton Cemetery, Polk Co. Ark. is? He seems to be the only Crawford in that cemetery with a head stone, but they say there are other Crawfords buried there? Could he be the same George Crawford who was married to Virginia Jane Mangum, and the son of Thomas Crawford, who was in Itawamba Co., MS. in the 1860 census? I think George was also in Itawamba Co. also in 1860, and then I know some of his family came into Polk and Sevier Co., Ark. Need some help on this one. Thanks Ola Mae, Okla."
C. I have been reviewing the two proposed locations in regards to a potential burial site for the George Washington Crawford who married Virginia/Jane Mangum. After some researching this week, I am now of the opinion that there were actually two George Crawfords of roughly the same age living in Polk County, Arkansas in 1880. I also believe that the two are being confused. It is my opinion that the George Washington Crawford (GWC) md. to Virginia/Jane Mangum is probably not the one buried in Hilton Cemetery. I also believe that he was not born in 1813 in Tennessee as some purport, but was actually born in the Carolinas around 1810. Consider the following:
a. In the censuses below, we have been able to properly identify GWC. There was not once in any census where he represented himself as being born in Tennessee, but shows consistently birth as always in the Carolinas (varies between North and South). He was also in Mississippi for the 1850, 1860, and 1870 censuses. It was only in the 1880 census that he finally appears in Arkansas (Cove Township in Polk Co.). We can also see that his father was most likely Thomas who was alive and living next door to GWC in Mississippi as late as the 1860 census. Cove Township is just barely north of Sevier County where we find the Penney Cemetery.
b. In searching for my theorized other George Crawford (GC) in the same county of Polk in Arkansas, we do indeed find one in the 1860, 1870, and 1880 censuses and he is consistently reported in Mountain Township in these three censuses, which is in the N.E. section of the county versus Cove Township for GWC in the opposite S.W. corner of the county. Never is the GC identified with a middle name of Washington or even a middle initial. Since both GWC and GC appear in 1880 in the same census, we now know they were different individuals. GC's listed post office is also shown in the censuses as "Big Bend" which I believe refers to the large bend in the River separating Mountain Township from adjoining Fulton Township (I cannot find the exact location). Hilton Cemetery is just across the river on the Fulton Township side on more or less a straight line halfway between Board Camp and Big Bend (about a mile from the Cemetery to Board Camp or to Big Bend). It would be reasonable to assume that it is this second George who is the one in the Hilton Cemetery since it would be very close to his census location. All of the censuses report GC was born in Tennessee and allowing for the vagaries of census ages, it appears 1813 is the most likely birth - this may be why some family historians give GWC the proposed birth of 1813 in TN where it should actually be GC. I also find an entry for GC on the Worldconnect (database "llott1") as follows. The children line up to GA's census records, but certainly are a different family from GWC. It is coincidental that he also had a father named Thomas, but this Thomas died in the 1830s if one follows the links on Worldconnect. GC's wives are also different from Virginia/Jane Mangum. Note also that the death date is the same one that some GWC researchers assign (undocumented) to their George." The information on the "wrong" George Crawford:
"ID: I0292
Name: George Washington Crawford
Sex: M
Birth: 15 Jan 1813 in Outside Athens McMinn Co Tennessee
Death: 3 Aug 1882 in buried at Hilton Cemetery, Boardcamp AR Father: Thomas Crawford b: 8 Nov 1788 in Polk Co Tennessee Mother: Priscilla Barnett b: 4 Apr 1794 in Person Co North Carolina Marriage 1 Anna Harkey b: 14 Apr 1818 in North Carolina
Married to Emily Jane Parish after Anna Harkey
Children
1. Elizabeth Crawford b: 9 Feb 1849 in Arkansas
2. Sarah Crawford b: 1837
3. Newton Crawford b: 1839
4. Caroline Crawford b: 1841 in MO
5. William Crawford b: 1845
6. Anna Crawford b: 1847
7. George Crawford JR b: 1853
8. James Crawford b: 1863
9. John Crawford b: 1867
10. Berry Samuel Crawford b: 13 Jan 1870 Marriage 2 Emily Jane Parish Cahoun"
D. Additional information from Paula Haymon received by email dated 18 Jan 2013 regarding my inquiry about the two Georges:
In regards to "George W. Crawford's burial location and his birth year... George is enumerated with the age of 67 in the 1880 Federal Census of Polk County, AR, which gives rise to the 1810-1813 birth year. Although he was most likely born in 1810 and most likely in North Carolina, his birth year and place are inconsistently reported on census records. I have not found a location for his burial. However, his son Thomas Jefferson is buried in Ben Lomond Cemetery, Sevier, AR as T. J. Crawford.
"A posting, below, on Polk County USGenweb site, http://argenweb.net/polk//crawgen.htm , confirms that the George Crawford who is buried in Hilton Cemetery is the McMinn, Tennessee George. I have also located some of the probate record which is most likely for "the other" George from film number 1009391 which is now online on Family Search, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32497-6006-79?cc=2061549&wc=M9ML-YZF:n2098365638 . Even more confusing is that his father's name may have been Thomas, as there is a Thomas Crawford enumerated in McMinn, now Polk, County, TN in 1830 with a very similar family pattern to that of Thomas of Itawamba, which also matches what is known of "the other" George Crawford's family. Unfortunately there are those who are blending the two families, as a result of "clicking the leaf."
Cottman, Leslie, "Crawford Genealogy; Reprinted from Polk County AR Genealogical Society Quarterly," USGenweb: Polk County, AR, http://argenweb.net/polk//crawgen.htm : "My grandfather, Berry Samuel (Berry) Crawford, was born January 13, 1870 in Ouachita, Polk County, Arkansas. He was the son of George W. Crawford born January 15, 1813, outside Athens in McMinn County, Tennessee. His second wife, Emily Jane Parrish was born in Arkansas in 1830. George's first wife Anna Harkey, was born in North Carolina in 1820. George died on August 3, 1882 and is buried in the Hilton Cemetery at Board Camp, Arkansas."

SOURCES_MISC:
1. FHL Film 1697868 and book "The Mangums of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas, Utah, and Adjoining States," by John T. Palmer, Ph.D. Santa Rosa, CA 95409, 1993, 3rd ed. 
Crawford, George Washington (I1335)
 
4811 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Important DNA information by email Nov 2014 from Professor Andrew M. Colman of Leicester, England, which confirms two branches of Latvian Herzenbergs being related to a common identifiable ancestor. The DNA of both lines were tested by Family Tree DNA which showed a predicted match of 3rd to 5th cousins. As of 18 Nov 2014, I am aware of only two Herzenberg DNA tests -- the one managed by Andrew Coleman for his sister Susan Sutcliffe and the one on my mother Irene (de Lanskoy) Petersen.
The two lines relate back as follows:
Andrew's: "My father's mother, Rose Hodes, was the daughter of Miriam Gana Herzenberg (1859-1945). Miriam was the daughter of Jossel Elias Herzenberg (1815-1881), Rabbi of Liepaja (Libau). He was the son of Elias or Eliahu Herzenberg (abt 1774-1844), Rabbi of Piltene. He was the son of Joseph or Jossel Herzenberg (abt 1750-abt 1815)...[*]"
Irene's: Her grandmother was Elizabeth Herzenberg who was the daughter of Eduard/Elias Ocipovitch Herzenberg (abt 1838-1910). He was the son of Joseph Herzenberg (abt 1808-aft 1877). He was the son Lemchen Herzenberg (abt 1779-1840). He was the son of Joseph or Jossel Herzenberg (abt 1750-abt 1815).
The two lines merge with Joseph or Jossel Herzenberg (abt 1750-abt 1815) who I shall call "Generation 1." Susan Sutcliffe is the 4gg-dau of Joseph of the 7th Generation. Irene is also the 4gg-dau of Joseph of the 7th Generation.
[*Note: Andrew then extends the line two generations further than what I do by noting "and Joseph (abt 1750-abt 1815) was the son of Lemchen Herzenberg (born abt 1720), the son of the postulated Joseph or Jossel Herzenberg (born abt 1695)." I do not concur with this additional genealogy and believe it mistaken.]

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the Website in my possession. Sources are LA for Latvian Archives. In regards to this individual:
Name variations: Miriam, Marija, Merium, Marium
LA 009 shows b. 15 Jun 1859 (with variation of 1858) in Libau, d. 17 Apr 1945, md. Hodes in 1878 in Libau.

3. Archival Research Paper about Herzenberg Family prepared for Harold Hodes 23 Mar 1999 and is report no. Nr. 3-H-2962, by Latvijas Valsts Vestures Arhivs (Latvian National Archives), Slokas iela 16, Riga, LV-1007, copy of only page 1 in my possession but evidently other pages exist:
"In reply to your application please be informed that the recruits enlistment registers of the Jewish families belonging to the Jewish community in Pilten for the years 1842, 1848, 1854, 1871 (see app. No. 1-4), census lists of the Jewish families belonging to Pilten for the years 1898, 1899 as well as the birth records of the Jewish community in Libau (now Liepaja) for the years 1836-1853, 1854, 1857-1905, marriage and death recods of the same community for years 1854-1905, as available at our archives, contain the following information:
Rabbi Jossel (or Josiph) Herzenberg was a son of Elias Herzenberg from Pilten. He was born in ca 1815-1816, possible in Pilten. Since our archives keep birth, marriage and death records of the Jewish communites for the time period from 1854, when they started to be kept officially, it is impossible to confirm the dates fevore 1854.
Jossel's father - a Rabbi Elias - son of Joseph Herzenberg, born in ca 1774, died in 1842.
Jossel's mother - Chiene Herzenberg (maiden name not stated), born in ca 1780.
Jossel's wife - Dine (Dinne, Diene) née Iddelson (birth date is unknown).
They had children:
-son Hirsh, born in ca 1836,
-son Lämmchen, born in ca 1843,
-son Elkan (Elkann), born in ca 1850,
-daughter Sheine, born on August 31 of 1857 in Libau (see App. No. 6),
-daughter Meriam, born on June 15 of 1859 in Libau (see App. No. 7).
Elkan - son of Jossel Herzenberg married Doris (Dobra, Doba) daughter of Aizik Dreyer, born in ca 1852. The marriage records of the Jewish community in Libau for the years 1870-1875 do not contain information on their marriage. The... [end of 1st page and my copy]"

4. Len Yodaikin, a professional genealogist hired by Harold Hodes, in his report "The Herzenbergs of Piltene and Leipeja Latvia, 1 Jan 2000, provides the following descendancy from Hirsh and Miriam (Herzenberg) Hodes:
-Hirsch Hodes, b. 1853 Pikellai, Lithuania, d. 1928 Jo'berg (Johannesberg) South Africa., m. Miriam Herzenberg, b. 1859 Libau, Latvia, d. 1945 Jo'berg, SA.
-Doris Hodes, b. 1880 Libau, d. Jo'berg, SA, m. Abraham Stazunsky.
-Leo Statz, b. 1900 Jo'berg, d. Jo'berg, m. Jesse Hyde.
-Julius Statz, b. 1903, m. Rose Bloom.
-Peter Staz b. 1936, m. (1) Anne ___, m. (2) Lilliam Buffenstein.
-Richard Staz, b. London, UK.
-Damien Staz, b. London, UK.
-Geoffrey Staz, b. Capetown, SA.
-Dina Hodes, b. 1882 Libau, d. Blemfontein, SA, m. Lous Shapiro
-Celia Hodes, b. 1884 Libau, d. Cape Town, SA, m. Adolphe Apiron, b. 1876.
-Gladys Apirion, b. 1905, m. (1) Ralph Asherson, b. 1898, m. (2) Werner Lippman, b. 1907. Children from first marriage:
-Joan Asherson, b. 1931, m. Ken Ackerman, b. 1928.
-Keith Ackerman, b. 1957 London, UK, m. Tessa Shephard, b. 1965.
-Naomi Ackerman, b. 1992.
-Ruben Ackerman, b. 1995.
-Roy Ackerman, b. 1961 London, UK, m. Ursula McFarlane, b. 1961.
-Josiah Ackerman, b. 1994.
-Leonardo Ackerman, b. 1997.
-Doris Apirion, b. 1909, m. Reg Sutcliffe, b. 1896.
-John Sutcliffe, b. 1939, m. Susan Colman b. 1942 (second cousin, dau. of George Colman, g. dau. of Rose Hodes). See children below.
-Barbara Sutcliffe, b. 1942, m. Jean Marguin, b. 1939.
-Moira Marguin, b. 1970 Paris, France, m. laurent le Bournis.
-Ninon Le Bournis, b. 1998 Paris, France.
-Magall Maquin, b. 1976 Paris, France.
-Jean Rolan Marquin, b. 1986 Paris, France.
-Clara Apirion, b. 1909, m. (1) Izzie Segal, m. (2) Alfred Meyer.
-Alan Segal, b. Capetown, m. (1) Shirley ___, m(2) Caroline ___. First two children of first marriage and second two of second marriage:
-Wendy Segal, b. 1963, m. Barry Parkinson.
-Tessa Parkinson, b. 1991.
-Alexandria Parkinson, b. 1994.
-Caroline Segal, b. 1965.
-James Segal, b. 1970.
-Rubert Segal, b. 1972.
-Sarah Hodes, b. 1887 Libau, d. Jo'berg, SA, m. Henry Kessel.
-Bernard Kessel (1900-1912) Jo'berg.
-Rose Hodes, b. 1888 Libau, d. Jo'berg, SA, m. Sam Colman, b. 1877.
-George Colman, b. 1908 Jo'berg, SA, m. Gladys Cooper, b. 1915.
-Andrew Colman.
-Susan Colman, b. 1942, m. John Sutcliffe, b. 1939. (Second cousins; John son of Doris Apinion, g. son of Celia Hodes above.)
-Adam Sutcliffe, b. 1969 London.
-William Sutcliffe, b. 1971 London.
-Phillip Colman, b. 1912, m. (1) Elsa Walter, b. 1921, m. (2) Constance Sue Gooday, b. 1922. Lists two children but does not say from which mother:
-Shelly Colman, b. 1945 Queenstown, m. (1) Francis Radice, m. (2) John Savage. Two children of first marriage:
-Daniella Radice, b. 1973 London, UK.
-Orlando Radice, b. 1975 London, UK.
-Marion Colman, b. 1947 Bloemfontein, m. (1) Andrew Hudson, (2) Barry de Beer. Two children of first marriage:
-Simon Hudson, b. 1969.
-Oliver Hudson, b. 1972.
-Joseph Hodes, b. 22 Apr 1898 Jo'berg, d. 6 Nov 1990 Jo'berg, m. Fanny Reichenberg 26 Dec 1926 Jo'berg, b. 30 Aug 1905 Heidelberg, d. 30 Sep 1989 Jo'berg.
-Hazel Hodes, b. 20 Aug 1928 Bloemfontein, SA, m. Arnold Swerdlow, b. 1926.
-Martin Swerdlow, b. 1954 Jo'berg, SA, m. Fiona Simm, b. 1953.
-Daniel Swerdlow, b. 1985.
-Oliver Swerdlow, b. 1987.
-Peter Swerdlow, b. 1955 Jo'berg, SA, m. Elly Myerson b. 1960.
-Avner Swerdlow, b. 1987 Jo'berg, SA.
-Michal Swerdlow, b. 1991 Jo'berg, SA.
-Vivienne Swerdlow, b. 1960 Jo'berg, SA, m. Basil Shall, b. 1956 Klerksdorp, SA.
-Emma Shall, b. 1987 London, UK.
-Kate Shall, b. 1991.
-Harold Hodes, b. 23 Jan 1932 Bloemfontein, SA, m. 15 Nov 1959 Harriet Anson, b. 18 May 1936 (Abrornawitsch) Berlin, Germany.
-David Jack Hodes, b. 27 Sep 1960 Bloemfontein, SA, m. Charlotte Hooper, b. 1958, London, UK.
-Esme Eva Hodes, b. 6 Apr 1996 Bristol, UK.
-Celia Louise Hodes, b. 8 Apr 1999 Bristol, UK.
-Jonathan Anson Hodes, b. 10 May 1963 Bloemfontein, SA.
-Michael Richard Hodes, b. 9 Feb 1967, London, UK.
-Clara Hodes, b. 27 Aug 1900 Jo'berg, d. 13 Sep 1987 Stellenbosch, SA, m. Herman Rosendorff, b. 4 Jul 1897 Edenburg, d. 3 Jul 1980 (Bloemfontein, SA).
-Gerald Rosendorff, b. 8 Aug 1929, Bloemfontein, SA, m. Bernice Hazel Friedman, b. 15 May 1931, Cape Town, SA.
-Stephen Ben Rosendorff, b. Stellenbosch 26 Jun 1958, m. Nicole Christine du Buison, b. 3 Sep 1967 Pretoria.
-Joshua Michael Rosendorff, b. 14 Sep 1995 Jo'berg, SA.
-Daniel Jonathan Rosendorff, b. 4 Jan 1997 Jo'berg, SA.
-Martin Louis Rosendorff, b. Stellenbosch 29 May 1959, m. Patricia Elizabeth Latimer, b. 28 Oct 1950 London, England.
-Samantha Rosendorff, b. 6 Nov 1990 Jo'berg, SA.
-Graham Michael Rosendorff, b. 28 Jul 1962 Stellenbosch, SA, m.Susan Brenda Meltzer, b. 19 Apr 1964, Cape Town, SA.
-Adam Chaim Rosendorff, b. 12 Aug 1995 Cape Town, SA.
-Joseph Ben Rosendorff, b. 10 Sep 1998, Cape Town, SA.

BIOGRAPHY:
1. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of his data from website in my possession.
"A LETTER ABOUT MIRIAM HODES (Daughter of Rabbi Joseph Herzenberg), contributed by her Grandson Judge George Coleman, South Africa 1995; copied from the original by Peter Herzenberg.
My grandmother, as I recall her, was a handsome soft-spoken old woman of great dignity. Even at the end of her life, her still unlined face, under white hair, showed that she must have been beautiful when young.
Despite her gentle form of speech, her personality was a strong one: she was respected, as well as loved by her seven children, their spouses, and those of her grand children who knew her well.
As the daughter of a rabbi in a large town, she had enjoyed a good education. She spoke, read and wrote Yiddish, German and English. Her English accent was a Northumberland one, acquired during her years in Sunderland.
Miriam was fond of reading. She is the only person I know who had read and enjoyed every one of Scott Waverley's novels. She was also an interesting talker, liberal in her views and at times humorous in the way she expressed them.
Though herself religious and a regular attendant at synagogue, she was tolerant of people who differed from her in such matters. An incident my wife Gladys used to tell of illustrates that tolerance, as well as Miriam's wit.
Gladys was a cigarette smoker, but when she visited Miriam on a Saturday she refrained from smoking. On such an occasion Miriam asked Gladys why she was not smoking; Gladys replied that it was because she felt she should refrain while in Miriam's presence on the Sabbath.
"My dear child," said Miriam, "if you're not afraid of God, you needn't be afraid of me."

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Mariam or Marija Gana (I3976)
 
4812 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Important DNA information by email Nov 2014 from Professor Andrew M. Colman of Leicester, England, which confirms two branches of Latvian Herzenbergs being related to a common identifiable ancestor. The DNA of both lines were tested by Family Tree DNA which showed a predicted match of 3rd to 5th cousins. As of 18 Nov 2014, I am aware of only two Herzenberg DNA tests -- the one managed by Andrew Coleman for his sister Susan Sutcliffe and the one on my mother Irene (de Lanskoy) Petersen.
The two lines relate back as follows:
Andrew's: "My father's mother, Rose Hodes, was the daughter of Miriam Gana Herzenberg (1859-1945). Miriam was the daughter of Jossel Elias Herzenberg (1815-1881), Rabbi of Liepaja (Libau). He was the son of Elias or Eliahu Herzenberg (abt 1774-1844), Rabbi of Piltene. He was the son of Joseph or Jossel Herzenberg (abt 1750-abt 1815)...[*]"
Irene's: Her grandmother was Elizabeth Herzenberg who was the daughter of Eduard/Elias Ocipovitch Herzenberg (abt 1838-1910). He was the son of Joseph Herzenberg (abt 1808-aft 1877). He was the son Lemchen Herzenberg (abt 1779-1840). He was the son of Joseph or Jossel Herzenberg (abt 1750-abt 1815).
The two lines merge with Joseph or Jossel Herzenberg (abt 1750-abt 1815) who I shall call "Generation 1." Susan Sutcliffe is the 4gg-dau of Joseph of the 7th Generation. Irene is also the 4gg-dau of Joseph of the 7th Generation.
[*Note: Andrew then extends the line two generations further than what I do by noting "and Joseph (abt 1750-abt 1815) was the son of Lemchen Herzenberg (born abt 1720), the son of the postulated Joseph or Jossel Herzenberg (born abt 1695)." I do not concur with this additional genealogy and believe it mistaken.]

2. Archival Research Paper about Herzenberg Family prepared for Kerry Petersen 28 Feb 2011 and is report no. Nr. 3-P-272, 2816, 1927 N, by Latvijas Valsts Vestures Arhivs (Latvian National Archives), Slokas iela 16, Riga, LV-1007. Complete transcript is in the notes of Edouard/Elias Ocipovitch Herzenberg and the following is but a partial transcript:
"The recruits' enlistment registers of the Jewish families belonging to Pilten for 1842, 1848, 1854, 1871, the revision lists of the Jewish families belonging to Pilten, set up on August 15 of 1851, the merchant's lists of Goldingen for 1868, 1874, 1875 contain the following information about Herzenberg family (we would like to draw your attention to the fact that very often the age of person was determined by their outward appearance and was stated in some documents rather approximately):
1. Joseph Herzenberg, his sons:
1.1. Elias, son of Joseph Herzenberg, born in ca 1774 (aged 68 in 1842), died on May 22 of 1844. His wife Chiene, born in ca 1780 (aged 62 in 1842). They had children.
1.2. Chone, son of Joseph Herzenberg, born in ca 1792 (aged 50 in 1842). His wife Schore, born in ca 1792 (aged 50 in 1842). They had children.
1.3. Lemchen, son of Joseph Herzenberg, born in ca 1779/1780 (aged 54 in 1834), died 1840. His wife Schore (the age is not stated). Their sons…"

3. Transcription from Peter Bruce Herzenberg's website on the Herzenberg (Website no longer active as of 2007):
"The Early Herzenbergs.
Joseph I appears as a patronymic only in:
(1) the 1811 census as the father of Lemchen (39) born 1772 and as father of Elias (40) born 1771.
(2) the Latvian Archives Appendix 1 of 1842 as the father of Elias (68) b. 1774.
(3) Appendix 2 confirms this date.
From this we learn that Elias and Lemchen were brothers and very close in age.
Lemchen from the above was born in 1772
From the Feigmanis report, we have the 1818 list of Piltene Jews made for taxation purposes. This is numbered 96-1-433a of the Latvian State Archives. Lemchen son of Joseph appears as being 17 years old, therefore born in 1801. This represents a huge discrepancy. Elias appears as 40 years old, thus born in 1778, another new date for Elias although fairly close to those above. Also mentioned is Chone son of Joseph (the Yiddish for Elchanan and the civil name Elkan) - he appears to have been born in 1884 [Kerry's note: assume this is typo for 1784.]
The question [asked of Peter Herzenberg] is: were there two contemporary Josephs both of whom had sons named Elias and Lemchen, or is one of the dates for Lemchen patently wrong?"

4. Data from a copy captured of Peter Bruce Herzenberg's website of London, England, since relocated to South Africa (website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007). See more on his research and data in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg in this database. Sources for this individual are LA is Latvian Archives and YL for Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes). In regards to this individual:
LA shows birth abt 1750, d. abt 1815 in Piltene, Kurland.
YL001 shows birth abt 1750.
YL013 shows birth abt 1750.

5. Received 30 Apr 2009 a copy of the following from Irene Gottleib Slatter entitled "Archival Reference about Brenson Family. It was prepared for Nina Kossman Dec 2006 and is report no. 3-K-7622; 7794N by Latvijas Valsts Vestures Arhivs (Latvian National Archives), Slokas iela 16, Riga, LV-1007. The following is only a partial transcript concerning this individual; please see the notes of Isidor Brenson within this database to see full and complete transcript including sources and documentation:
"The records of the archival fonds "Collection of Passports of Riga Prefecture," "Riga City House Registers," the birth records of the Jewish community in Mitau for 1854-1855, 1857-1858, 1862, 1864-1883,1886-1889, 1892, 1895, 1900, 1902-1904, the marriage records of the same community for 1854, 1856-1868, 1872-1873, 1875, 1884, 1886-1887, 1889-1891, 1893, 1895-1897, as available at our archives (the birth marriage and death records for other years have not survived), the birth marriage and death records of the Jewish communities in Riga for 1854-1905, the revision lists of the Jewish families belonging to Mitau for 1834, 1858, 1887, the recruits' enlistment register of the Jewish families belonging to Mitau for 1845, 1875, for Pilten for 1848 contain the following information:
"..We suppose that Klara's father was Robert (Ruben), son of Joseph (Jossel) Herzenberg a merchant from Pilten, born in ca 1826 (aged 22 in 1848, see Appendix No. 4) and mother Emilie (Amalie), daughter of David Kahn, born in ca 1830, died in 1903. Robert Herzenberg lived in Mitau and had his firm 'Robert Herzenberg,' he died before 1887 (the death records of the Jewish community in Mitau, as available at our archives do not contain information on his death).
Ruben had at least two brothers Laser and Jacob (unfortunately, females (daughters) were not registered in the recruits's enlistment registers of Pilten). His parents: father Joseph (Jossel), son of Lemchen Herzenberg was born in ca 1809 (aged 39 in 1848), mother Zippe (the age is not stated). His grandparents: Lemchen, son of Joseph Herzenberg, born ca 1780, died in 1840. He belonged to the Jewish community in Pilten at least since 1834, his wife Schore (the age is not stated)...
REFERENCE:
fond 5024, inventory 2, files 331, 351, 375, inventory 1, file 88.
fond 2942, inventory 1, files 4109, 2130.
fond 630, inventory 2, files 220, 221.
fond 4349, inventory 2, file 6.
fond 445, inventory 1, files 2035, 2038.
fond 2996, inventory 9, file 520, inventory 12, field 14498, inventory 7, files 25343, 25280, inventory 2, files 41162, 41163, 41164, 41171, 41175, 41185, 41186, inventory 15, file 4449, fond 472, inventory 5, files 628, 826, 1574.
Enclosure: genealogical table - 1 table, copies of the documents - 26 sheets.
Director: N. Rizovs, Head of Department: I. Veinberga., Researcher: J. Polovceva."

6. Peter Herzenberg in his 1999 (updated 2010) compilation of Herzenbergs created a fourth individual (who he names as Osher/Asher Lemel) as a son to the original Joseph (b. ca. 1750); the other three sons of Joseph, all proven, are "Rabbi" Elias, Lemchen, and Chone/Elkan. Peter gave his primary source for Osher as "CP," which is purported to be a Pilten Cemetery gravestone photo showing Osher b. Joseph Herzenberg, b. abt. 1794, d. in 1844 (there was no such photo or other documentation in the material received by me from Peter in 2010). I corroborated this against the Pilten Cemetery all name list that Feignanis included in his 1997 report to Harold Hodes as well as all Oshers/Lemels/Lemchens, etc. of the "All Latvian Cemetery" lists on the Internet as of 5 Dec 2011 without finding any match. My Latvian Research report dated 28 Feb 2011, which included the early Pilten Herzenbergs, failed to mention any element of Osher's family. I also have since personally extracted every Herzenberg name from every Pilten register from 1796 to 1879 without finding even one reference to Osher or his supposed children (see below).
Ron Lapid , another skilled family researcher, addressed in his email of 24 Aug 2009 another aspect of this problem of "...Joseph having four children including Lemchen and Osher." He comments: "In my opinion, this is very unlikely because Lemchen is Kinnui (vernacular, nickname) for Osher and you would probably not find brothers of the same name."
Before Peter proposed Osher as a son to Joseph, there appeared to have been some theorizing as to how Osher (if really even existed) would fit in. In a undated handwritten schematic and undocumented pedigree that Gail Herzenberg gave relatives in Israel (copy in my possession and perhaps somewhat based on early theorizing of family researcher Leo Herzenberg), Osher (with undocumented earlier dates of 1770-1820) was a brother to Joseph (b. ca. 1750) and linked to an imaginary father named Elihu-Elias (name based solely on the speculative thought that perhaps Joseph's oldest son Elihu-Elias was his grandfather's namesake). Gail then had another generation back with an imaginary name of Lemchen based solely on the name repeating itself often in later Herzenberg generations. Lastly there was a second branch of this oldest imagined Lemchen that led first to a son b. abt. 1740 named Joseph, then to a son Lemchen b. abt. 1771, and then finally to three sons. Peter corrected all this speculation by realizing that the new Joseph branch was actually just the original Joseph (b. abt. 1750 and still the earliest ancestor) and his sons - but it still left him the problem of Osher.
In attempting to reconcile Osher into the family, Peter's apparent thought was that there were two sons in Joseph's family named similarly with one Lemchen dying early before the subsequent one Osher was born and perhaps named in his memory. This thought was inadvertently fueled by the 1997 Alexandrs Feignanis reseach report for Harold Hodes wherein he quotes from his review of Latvian State Historical Archives 96-1-4330a 1818 Pilten tax list showing a young Lemchen: "Elias Joseph Herzenberg, age 40; Chonne Joseph Herzenberg, age 24; Lemchen Joseph Herzenberg, age 17.) Having two sons with the same name was messy and did not work well because even internally in Peter's compilation the first Lemchen was having children from 1798 to 1809 even after the second Osher was supposedly born abt 1794. In my comprehensive Dec. 2011 Pilten extraction work, it has become very apparent that the first Lemchen survived with his children and did not die until 1840; there was no younger Lemchen b. abt 1801 on any of the many subsequent lists. I have not seen the copy of the 1818 tax list that Feignanis says he attached to his report, but the bigger picture shows he either mistook a probable 37 for 17 (I have found Feignanis to be sloppy in some of his reporting) or the original censor miswrote the age. The 1818 tax list is not online; however, the 1811 and 1834 Registers shows Lemchen age 33 and 54 respectively.
I also reviewed Len Yodaiken's 2000 research report to see how he deals with the supposed Osher and his children. He really garbles this up badly by placing Osher (1772-1844) as the first of the two similarly named sons of Joseph (b. abt. 1750) and placing Lemchen (1801-?) second with only one son named Eleazer (?-1907). He then interchanges some children while randomly attaching unconnected branches. He does not document his work and more detailed modern research shows that his early generations are nothing more than rehashing work by others while forcing non-existent connections.
One of the other large factors that perhaps prompted Peter to add Osher was the Pilten cemetery tombstone lists from which he assigns several children to this Osher. From my recent extraction of eighty years of Pilten revision lists, there is not even one reference to Osher or any of his children - the only basis for this supposed family group are the gravestone transcriptions. These can be found online or in the Aleksandrs Feigmanis report (3 pages) to Harold Hodes - the latter being Peter's source. Apparently Feigmanis made the original transcriptions in Spring 1998 (perhaps only from films since he sources films 7786, 7789, and 7790); they then become exactly the basis of what we see on the Internet as of 2011. The accuracy of the transcription is unknown considering what Feigmanis had to work with in regards to poorly maintained tombstones (as reported by Nina Kossman from her trip to this cemetery). The entries for this family from the Pilten cemetery transcripts are:
-"Joseph b. Osher Herzenberg died 78 years old in 565" [Date missing one digit in transcription.]
-"Eliahu b. Osher Herzenberg"
-"Arye Leib b. Osher d. 5627" [1866/1867]
-"Lea b. Osher d. 5630" [1869/1870]
-"Dveire Arenson geb. Herzenberg d. 26.07.1864" [I believe geb. = nee]
-"Gutel Rebecca b. Osher Mersonb (Gerzon?) d. 5652" [1891/1892]
-"Yosel (Yete?) b. Osher died in age 45 years old in 5646" [1888/1886]
After reviewing these seven children, I do not find they make a good argument for the existence of the questioned Osher. In analyzing these seven entries, we can quickly eliminate the four who do not contain the name Herzenberg. I find other Oshers in the same cemetery who could just as likely be their father. The entry for Dveire could link her as a daughter to any Herzenberg father; unfortunately, the Registers do a poor job listing daughters since their main purpose is for military and taxation - if I had to hazard a guess I would place her in the Pilten family of Levin Lemchen Herzenberg (1800-1867) since his wife was named Dwuare/Dbuare. (Dveire m. Uriah Ahronson, and they had a child named Bernard Ahronson. "Uria" is buried in same cemetery.) This leaves us with two sons Joseph and Eliahu; however, both of these are names from our proven Lemchen (or Osher if going by a nickname). The tombstone inscriptions do not give us much to work with, but we do know that Lemchen's son Joseph was b. abt. 1809, spent most of his life in Pilten, and moved late in life to Kuldiga where we have record of him as a merchant up to at least 1877. He nor his wife appear in the Kuldiga (Goldingen) cemetery (not many do since I believe this cemetery was heavily destroyed by the Nazis), so there is a good chance he could have been buried with family in Pilten, which is only 23 miles away from Kuldiga.
Based upon the above analysis and the comprehensive Herzenberg extraction made 5 Dec 2011 from the online Latvian Archives, I suggest we drop Osher and his seven supposed children as a Herzenberg family. 
Herzenberg, Joseph or Jossel (I3935)
 
4813 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In Kuldiga (formerly known as Goldingen, my mother and I stayed the the "Roberts Herzenberg" apartment on the main pedestrian thoroughfare the night of Oct. 8, 2016. I believe this apartment to have belonged to Robert Herzenberg, son of Eleazer and Amalie (Hirschman) Herzenberg, who would have been about 47 when he built it circa 1915. Alternatively, Robert may also be the son of Jacob and Dorothea (___) Herzenberg. The proprietor of the apartment rental is trying to contact the elderly descendant of Robert who sitll is alive and lives in Israel. Hopefully, I will be able to contact her for more information. Here is some communication from Mr. Vaitkus who we met and owns the apartment rental business. He is very interested in helping find out more about the history of the original Robert Herzenberg:
Email from roberts vaitkus 8 Oct 2016:
"Thank you for the time and the privilege to meet with you both. Thank you also for the amazing amount of the work and energy you have put to create the historical database of Herzenberg family tree line. I contacted my wife Aiga yesterday night telling what awesome people I have met. She and her sister will summarize all the detailed information about Robert Herzenberg we have at the moment and send it to you as soon they come back from UK. Please say hi to your Mom and I thank both of you for being willing to discover your legacy in such a adventurous way. I pray that God would open doors to people and places which will let you dig deeper than 5th generations back! Have a wonderful trip to Vilnius! With much love, Roberts Vaitkus +371 27710100.
The following are my comments and observations:
Photos of the apartment are are available on the Airbnb website https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/6864313 accessed 13 Oct 2016. It was built by Robert Herzenberg in about 1915 and included three floors. The bottom floor contained commercial space including a pharmacy and restaurant. A restaurant remains to this day. The building is owned by a Herzenberg descendant who is an elderly lady now living in Israel. The city also owns half the building as well probably due to past Communist confiscation prior to Latvia's Independence around 1990. The current proprietor leases the apartment and has renovated the main apartment on the top floor into a very highly-rated bed and breakfast. It is the apartment that Robert himself lived in and features a round room in a turret. Among original furnishings is cooking brick cooktop for cooking by charcoal or wood. The building was quite elegant in its days but the Communists put into it the poorest of poor family who were very rough on the building. It is being slowly restored. The apartment commands the best view on the best corner of the best street in Kuldiga which is called Liepajas Iela. This area is a favorite tourist destination for tour buses since it is the best preserved old village/town in all of Latvia. It was spared from the destruction of both World Wars and the ugly Sovietization that is so common in the Baltic Republics. The entire street was more or less built by the Jewish inhabitants and even the synagogue remains to this day. It is only a half hour drive from Piltene where all Jews first lived in Latvia before spreading throughout the country. Latvia in those days was under the domination of Sweden who persecuted the Jews. Piltene was owned by the Danes who were tolerant to the Jews. This area was the ancient center of the Duchy of Courland of the Livonian Order of the Teutonic Knights. In 1795 the Russian Tsar conquered Latvia and it remained Russian until modern days.
In another email from Roberts dated 19 Oct 2016, he provides the following information. He also provides some historical photos of the building, which I have since posted on Family Search in Robert Herzenberg's file. He notes [Kerry's comments in brackets]:
"I forwarded your e-mail to my wife and her sister [who do some historical research], so we have collected the information about Robert Hercenberg, which is not that much as I expected. Hope you can get something useful out of it.
Robert Herzberg - born in 1867, 09.11. in Kuldiga
Sofia Herzberg - born in 1875, 07.07. in Kuldiga
Georg Herzberg - born in 1901, 26.02. in Kuldiga
Leo / Leopold Herzberg - born in 1908, 02.09. in Kuldiga
The whole family before World War II lived in Kuldīga.
Herzberg Robert (Age of 74) and Sofia Herzberg (Age of 68) in the year of 1941 were sent out to the farm/field work on Kuldiga parishes.
Jacob Herzberg (buried on 9 March 1912). He has been an honorary citizen of Kuldiga. For many years he was a teacher of Jewish school, Jewish religious teacher, religious teacher of grammar school. Founded the Talmud - Torah school, which he led until 1911. [KP: Appears to be a separate Herzenberg from the family above -- not sure where he fits in.]
"[Photos of Robert Herzberg building:] Apartment house with shops Liepaja Street 8 is one of the most architecturally impressive buildings in the old town of Kuldiga. Owner Robert Herzberg built it in 1913 (the year number can be seen in the entrance door transom openwork metal grid) in place o fan old wooden house. Buildings spatial form and the artistic image corresponds to the later stages of Art Nouveau. The first floor occupied by shops. In turn, wing against the Katolu (now Raina) street in the interwar period was Birger E. pharmacy. Eduard Birger (born in 1864. Nurmuiza pastor's family) in 1913 bought Kozaka pharmacy on Baznicas and Policijas street corner in Kuldiga. Since it was located very close to Grabes pharmacy (Baznicas St. 20), in the same year he moved it to Herzberg house on the corner of Liepajas and Katolu street. Pharmacy was closed on 18th of November 1939, due the pharmacy owner repatriation. In late 20th century in the building' ground floor was opened the cafe "Staburadze". Also, now the building houses a café with the same name, as well as apartments." 
Herzberg, Jacob (I5349)
 
4814 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In mother's obituary of 25 May 1887, she notes 2 daughters and 4 sons alive. This confirms this individual was still alive at that time. Of the siblings, Jane Ann Burnhope Spens was the only one deceased at that time which coincides perfectly with this database.

2. Censuses:
1841 Eng: Westoe, Bedlington, Durham, p. 6 of 9, none born in county except Jane:
Isaac Burnip, 30, ag lab.
Elizabeth, 30.
William, 9.
Mary, 6.
Joseph, 4.
Jane, 1.
James Henderson, 25, ag. lab., not born in county.

1861 Eng.: District 19, Boldon Parish, Durham, p. 10 of 26, #58:
Joseph Burnhope, mar. 23, master tailor employing 1 apprentice, b. Northumberland, Hexham.
Margaret, wife, 23, b. Northumberland, Newcastle.

1871 Eng.: District 24, West Bolden Village, Durham, Eng., p. 13 of 37, listing #70:
Joseph Burnhope, mar., 33, tailor and post messenger, b. Northumberland, Hexham.
Margaret, wife, mar., 33, b. Northumberland, Newcastle.
Edith C., dau., 9, b. Durham, Boldon.
Margaret M., dau., 8, b. Durham, Boldon.
Williamina, dau., 6, b. Durham, Boldon.
Jane A., dau., 6, b. Durham, Boldon.
Isaac, son, 3, b. Durham, Boldon.
Joseph, son, 1, b. Durham, Boldon.

1881 British: Boldon, Durham, England, FHL film 1342209, RG11-5018/72, p. 13:
Joseph Burnhope, married, 43, Hexham, Northumberland, Eng., Tailor.
Margaret, wife, married, 43, Newcastle, Northumberland, Eng.
Jane Ann, dau., 15, Boldon, Durham, Eng.
Isaac, son, 13, Boldon, Durham, Eng.
Joseph, son, 11, Boldon, Durham, Eng.
Thomas, son, 13, Boldon, Durham, Eng.
Maria, dau., 7, Boldon, Durham, Eng.
William, son, 5, Boldon, Durham, Eng.
Pricilla, dau., 2, Boldon, Durham, Eng.

1901 Eng: District 20, Gateshead, Durham, p. 15 of 51, #107, address 15 Leddell Terr.:
Joseph Burnhope, mar. 63, tailor, b. Northumberland, Hexham.
Margt., wife, 63, b. Northumberland, Hexham.
Joseph, son, widr., 31, Asst. Newspaper Dispatcher, b. Durham, West. Boldon.
Mary Ann, dau., sing., 18, vest maker/tailor, b. Durham, West Boldon.
Isa, g.dau., 8, b. Durham, Gateshead.
Mgt. Morton, g.dau., 7, b. Durham, Gateshead.
Williamina, g.dau., 4, b. Durham, Gateshead.

3. Verified Ancestry.com 23 Nov 2002.

BIRTH:
1. 1881 British census.

2. Sunderland, England LDS Branch records 1843-1854, FHL film 87035, p. 4, entry 31: "Joseph Burnip, born June 22nd, 1837, at Hexham. Baptized in Hendon Bay by W. Knox and confirmed in the arcade Sep. 25th, 1847 - removed to South Shields Oct AD 1849."

3. Sunderland, England LDS Branch records 1843-1854, Reformation and Rebaptism of Durham Conference, FHL film 87035, p. 2a, entry 32: "Joseph Burnop, born at Hexham, Nhumberland, June 22, 1837. Baptized at Sunderland, Durham by William Knox Sep 25th, 1847. Confirmed Sep. 26, 1847 in Sunderland, Durham by William Knox. Moved Oct 1849."

4. South Shields [Durham Co.], England LDS Branch records 1848-1855, 1870, Membership Roster, FHL film 87033, p. 1, entry 7: "Joseph Burnip, sing., residence at Boldon, born at Hexham, Northum., 22 Jun 1837. Baptized at Sunderland, 25 Sep 1847."

CHRISTENING:
1. 23 Nov 2002 Ancestry.com database "swallred": Parish Reg. of Hexham, Northumberland, England FHL film #991804, Item 1, p. 106. Father's profession: laborer.

2. Per my review of a transcription of Hexham Christening records, it appears that only the first three children of Isaac Burnhope and Elizabeth Charlton were chr. in Hexham per the following entries:
21 Oct 1832, William Burnhope, son of Isaac, hind, and Elizabeth of Sunnyside.
9 Jul 1837, Joseph Burnhope, son of Isaac, labourer, and Elizabeth of the parish.
Mary Ann is not under the surname Burnhope, but is under the name misspelled name Burnett.

DEATH:
1. Date per archival family group sheets. Place assumed from location of census.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Family group sheet submitted by Josephine H. Bird, 404 Cedar St., Mt. Vernon, Washington. She then lived in Orem, Utah. She cites personal records and autobiographies of Elizabeth Charlton Wallace Hickenlooper and Mary Ann Burnhope Wallace. 
Burnhope, Joseph (I5)
 
4815 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In mother's obituary of 25 May 1887, she notes 2 daughters and 4 sons alive. This confirms this individual was still alive at that time. Of the siblings, Jane Ann Burnhope Spens was the only one deceased at that time which coincides perfectly with this database.

2. Censuses:
1851 Eng: Whitburn, Durham, p. 16 of 20, #60, res: Stay the Voyage:
Isaac Burnhope, 42, platelayer, b. Northumberland, Weamley.
Elizabeth, wife, 44, b. Northumberland, Hendon-in-the-Wall.
Wm., son, 18, sailor, b. Northumberland, Sunnyside.
Mary Ann, dau., 16, b. Northumberland, Sunnyside.
Jane, dau., 11, b. Durham, East Bolden.
Isaac, son, 8, b. Durham, East Bolden.
Thomas, son,. 6, b. Durham, East Bolden.
Betsy, dau., 2, b. Durham, East Bolden.

1861 England: District 21, Whitburn parish, Durham, p. 21 of 23, house: Stay the Voyage:
Isaac Burnop, mar., 52, plate layer.
Elizabeth, wife, mar., 54, b. Durham, Newburn.
Isaac, son, 18, plate layer, b. Durham, Whitburn.
Thomas, son, 16, plate layer, b. Durham, Whitburn.
Betsy, dau., 12, b. Durham, Whitburn.
Eliza Mitchell, visitor, sing., 20, dressmaker, b. Scotland.

1880 US: Terrace, Box Elder, Utah, NA film T9-1335, p. 118D:
Thomas Burnhope, laborer, M, 36, Eng Eng Eng.
Mary Ann, keeping house, wife, M, 36, Eng Eng Eng.
Isaac, S, 7, UT Eng Eng.
Mary Ann, S, 4, UT Eng Eng.

1900 US: Promontory Precinct, Box Elder, Utah, Sht. 3, B:
Thomas Burnhope, Head, Feb 1845, 55, married 27, Eng Eng Eng, immigrated 1868, RR laborer.
Mary A., wife, Mar 1844, 56, marr. 27 years, 7 total children 2 living, Eng Eng Eng.

1910 US: 4th Ward, Ogden, Weber, Utah, 85A, 12 Jan 1920, 2264 Madison Ave (note next door neighbor is Cornelius Osborne at 2256 Madison and daughter Mary and her husband live in close proximity 4 pages away in same census):
Thomas Burnhope, Head, 67, m. once for 38 years, Eng Eng Eng, emigrated 1868, naturalized, lives on income.
Mary, wife, 66, m. once for 38 years, 2 total children both living, Eng Eng Eng, emigrated 1868.

1920 US: 4th Ward, Ogden, Weber, Utah, 83A, 12 Jan 1920, 2264 Madison Ave:
Peter Peterson, owns home, 49, emigrated 1880, naturalized 1892, Den Den Den, salesman in hardware store.
Mary A., 43, UT Eng Eng.
Carl, son, 19, UT Den UT.
Franklin, son, 17, UT Den UT.
Helen, dau., 15, Montana Den UT.
Thelma, dau., 13, UT Den UT.
Thomas Burnhope, father-in-law, 74, widower, emigrated 1868, naturalized 1915, Eng Eng Eng, no occupation.

3. Came to Utah from England around 1868 per granddaughter Mary Lucile Burnhope.

4. Reviewed Rootsweb.com Worldconnect Nov 2002.

5. Residences:
1845-Stay the Voyage, West Boldon, England
1908- 2262 Madison Ave., Ogden, UT.

6. Naturalization record of Thomas Burnhope: U.S. Naturalization Cert., 22 Dec 1908, U.S. Dist., Weber, Ogden, UT.

7. Ken Burnhope in his email of 18 Oct 2002 indicates his records have notes on the birth of five stillborn babies born after Isaac and Mary Ann. The cemetery in Ogden has two graves; one with one baby and a date in the record and the other grave marker shows "Babies" and the record just shows babies with no date.

8. The following names are found in the following document: "Names of Persons and Sureties indebted to the Perpetual Emigrating Fund company 1850 to 1877," (also known as the 1877 Debtors Index) by Richard L. Jensen and Marine C. Ward. Document in PDF form found at :
Boak, Nicholas - Elizabeth. Margaret: 1868.
Burnhope, Isaac - Elizabeth. Thomas, Betsey: 1868.

9. "Names of Persons and Sureties indebted to the Perpetual Emigrating Fund Company 1850 to 1877," http://www.jacksonfamilyhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Doc030_PEF.pdf, p. 156, accessed 23 Apr 2014:
Isaac Burnhope -- Elizabeth, Thomas, Betsey: 1868.

BIOGRAPHY:
1. Sketch of the Life of Mary Ann Burnhope Wallace [see her notes for full citation]: "I was born April 24, 1835 at Hexham, Northumberland Co., England. My parents, Isaac Burnhope and Elizabeth Charlton, were of English birth and of Protestant and Catholic faith, until the year 1847 when they with their seven children were baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. My father, when a young man, enlisted in the British Army. He was bought off, ran away and joined the army, served his time and then worked at freighting. After his marriage he was a section foreman on the railroad. My mother was a housekeeper in the families of the nobility for fifteen years previous to her marriage. My ancestors were foresters and brewers... My parents, with my brother, Thomas, and sister, Betsy, came to Salt Lake City from England in the summer of 1868. They lived with us and in February 1869 father died with erysipelas. Mother was very sick with the dreadful disease, but recovered..."

2. Thomas and Mary Ann's granddaughter Mary Lucile Burnhope wrote her several very detailed and descriptive biographies of several dozen pages from June 1969 through July 1988. I have copies on file of which some details of genealogical interest I here relate. She notes the family would take the train to Ogden for Christmas at her grandparents Thomas and Mary Ann Burnhope's home of which she relates: "Their home at 2264 Madison Avenue was a two story house with an open staircase leading to the upstairs. Grandma's parlor had beautiful English furniture and trinkets from England that were not to be touched, but we could look at them with our hands behind our back. Except for Christmas and very special occasions the parlor was closed. The house was heated with coal stoves, but they did have electric lights and a real bathroom which was a new experience for me. I liked to play on the stairs most of all. My cousins, the Petersens were always there too. They lived in Ogden not far from our grandparents. My Aunt Mary Ann Petersen was my father's only sister, and father was her only brother. They were very close at this time and we always had a wonderful time when we were all at Grandma's house. One event that I always looked forward to at my grandparent's house was on Christmas Eve. After our stockings were all hung up for Santa Claus we had stories, and then Grandma treated us to their English Christmas Eve traditional ceremony. Grandma and grandpa Burnhope were both born in England and lived there until they joined the LDS church and sailed for America in 1868. They met in Ogden and were married in the LDS Endowment House in Salt Lake City on Nov. 18, 1872. There were some English traditions that they continued to enjoy. Grandma would fill a plate with large seeded raisins and pour a small amount of brandy over the top of them. Then grandpa would strike a match and set fire to the raisins and brandy. The flames would go up about a foot. Then each person had to try to get a raisin or two out of the flames. We all succeeded because the fire didn't seem to be hot. The raisins were delicious. When we finished the raisins we had English Christmas cake and a very tiny (about one inch high) glass of what Grandma called her own English wine. I don't know how she made it but it was good. Then the children were sent to bed while the parents and grandparents played checkers and chess until the wee hours. These trips to Ogden were so special. After Grandma died in May 1919 we never again had our English Chrismas Eve. Then Grandpa Burnhope came to live with us in Bothwell until he died in March 1922."

3. "Thomas Charlton Burnhope. 22 Feb 1845-31 Mar 1922. Utah Pioneer.
"The life of Thomas Charlton Burnhope is taken from a transcript written by his son Isaac Burnhope in January 1942, and "Sketch of the Life of my Father Isaac Burnhope," written by his daughter Lucile B Swenson (1961), US Censuses of 1880,1900,1910,1920, family research notes of Kerry Petersen (great great grandson), "Sketch of the Life of Mary Ann Burnhope Wallace" (sister), obituaries, and "The Mormon Immigration Index."
"My father Thomas Charlton Burnhope, was born February 22, 1845, at West Bolden, Durham County, England, to Isaac and Elizabeth Charlton Burnhope, the sixth in a family of seven children. His parents, Isaac Burnhope and Elizabeth Charlton, were of English birth and Protestant and Catholic faith, until the year 1847 when they were baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
"He joined the LDS Church when he was 18 years of age. Charles Benson baptized him in November 1863.
"He also served in the British Army and worked for the railroad as his father did. He was first a tailor working for his brother's tailor shop, but the railroad was his choice. He was a locomotive fireman and near the point of being promoted to engineer at the time, he left England for America."
When Thomas was 23 years of age he, with his parents and his sister Elizabeth (Betsy) sailed from Liverpool, England on the sailing ship "John Bright'. Departure was on June 4, 1868 with financial assistance of the Perpetual Immigration Fund of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. On arriving in New York on 14 July 1868, the next day they were conveyed westward by railroad to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, to Chicago, and then to Laramie, Wyoming via Omaha. The Union Pacific Railroad had reached Laramie, Wyoming in May 1868, just a month more or less before the time the Burnhope family left England. Laramie Wyoming was the western terminus of the Union Pacific Railroad and the temporarily outfitting place for the journey across the mountains with teams. They arrived in Laramie, Wyoming, August 23, 1868. They crossed the plains from Laramie to Utah on July 27 1868 with the John R Murdoch Company wagon train pulled by mule teams, entering Salt Lake City, Utah 19 August 1868, seventy-seven days since departing England. "The fare from the railroad terminus to Salt Lake City was $29.00 which the immigrant was required to pay later."
Mary Ann Burnhope Wallace writes: " My parents, with my brother, Thomas, and sister, Betsy, came to Salt Lake City from England in the summer of 1868. They lived with us and in February 1869 father died with erysipelas. Mother was very sick with the dreadful disease, but recovered."
The wagon trains and ox teams were discontinued after the Central Pacific and the Union Pacific railroads met at Promontory, Utah, May 10, 1869.
Thomas's father, Isaac Burnhope (born 15 November 1808 at Hexham, Northumberland, England) is buried in the Salt Lake City Cemetery. His mother Elizabeth Charlton (born 21 September 1806 at Heddon-on-the-Wall, Northumberland, England) remarried to Nicholas Boak, lived in Spanish Fork, Utah until her death on 13 April 1887. She is buried in Spanish Fork, Utah.
"After arriving in Salt Lake City, Utah he did several odd jobs and when the Union Pacific Railroad started out of Ogden, Utah for San Francisco, California he got a job laying track up Promontory Hill. Then came the great day of the Golden Spike driven at Promontory, May 10, 1869. This is not the Promontory Point where the Southern Pacific runs now but over the hill. Thomas was in Promontory for the driving of the Golden Spike. From there he went back to Ogden and got a job on the Utah Central Railroad, another track-laying job.
Thomas met Mary Ann Osborne (born 27 March 1844 at Mulgrave Place, Woolwich, Kent, England and the daughter of Cornelius and Harriet Elizabeth Morgan Osborne) in Ogden, Utah and they were married in the Endowment House in Salt Lake City, November 18, 1872. They would have seven children, Isaac, 7 September 1873, Mary Ann, 14 October 1876, and five stillborn babies. "Thomas worked at the sawmills in Ogden Canyon for lumber to build a small house."
"Then Thomas quit the mill job and went back to the railroad, this time for the Central Pacific, you see by this time, after the Golden Spike was driven, the Central Pacific came through to Ogden" About 1878 they moved to Terrace, Utah, 124 miles from Ogden, Utah, coaling engines for the Central Pacific Railroad. The method of coaling Engines at the time was a rather slow one. It was done with a derrick and buckets that held 1000 lbs. of coal each and two Chinamen wound the derrick by hand. It took about 5 minutes, to raise one bucket, another Chinaman stood on the Tender to dump the bucket when it got to him, and another stayed on the ground to pull the derrick around by means of a 20-foot rope.
"Companies only paid every 2 months. Terrace was a railroad town with all its big shops there and a supply center for miners and ranchers, and when payday came around it was a real lively place. Gamblers would come in from everywhere, there was plenty of whiskey and guns and sometimes they did not work together so well. Terrace was a real Wild West town when the miners, cowboys, gamblers and railroad men all got together half lit up on firewater. Any where from 50 to 75 cowpunchers shooting and yelling things got hot. One time I remember the fire department got out and turned the hose on to quiet them down."
"The spring of 1885 the family moved to Promontory, Utah, on top of the hill. Trains had to be helped over the hill both ways, there were about ten families at the station. "The 1900 census shows the Thomas Burnhope family living in Promontory, Utah and lists his occupation as Railroad Laborer. Their children were married during this time Isaac to Annie Marie Christensen 18 November 1896 (his parent's anniversary) and Mary Ann to Peter Peterson, 23 September 1897.
The Ogden Standard Examiner (25 June 1907) lists a building permit issued to Thomas Burnhope for a frame dwelling on Madison Avenue .Lucile Burnhope Swenson describes her grandparents home . "Their home at 2264 Madison Avenue was a two story house with an open staircase leading to the upstairs. Grandma's parlor had beautiful English furniture and trinkets from England that was not to be touched. The house was heated with coal stoves but they did have electric lights and a real bathroom which was a new experience for me." The 1910 United States Census has Thomas and Mary Ann Burnhope living in Ogden, Utah at 2264 Madison Avenue, this would be their residence for the remainder of their lives together.
Thomas Burnhope became a naturalized citizen of the United States of America on 22 December 1908 in Ogden, Utah. He worked for and retired from the Southern Pacific Railroad, he drew small pension from the Railroad. His last check, for nineteen dollars and twenty-five cents was returned to the railroad. Mary Ann Osborne died 15 May 1919 in Ogden, Utah she is buried in the Ogden City Cemetery near some of her babies.
The 1920 census has Thomas Burnhope living in Ogden with his son-in-law Peter Petersen. For the last eighteen months of his life, he lived with his son Isaac Burnhope in Bothwell, Utah until his death, 31 March 1922, He is buried next to his wife of 50 years.
His grandson Thomas Donald Burnhope wrote in his memoirs, "Grandfather Burnhope came to live with us, we became the best of pals, and we played horseshoes and hunted birds and rabbits. Grandpa was a quoit pitcher back in England, ('kwat, similar to horse shoes in which a ring of iron or rope is thrown towards a pin), his sight was poor so we tied a white rag on the pegs, and he never missed putting on a ringer.."
Compiled and written by Kenneth D Burnhope, Great Grand Son. February 2009."

BIRTH:
1. Birth certificate on file, certified copy BXA073538, application PAS 60746/74/F/1, dated 9 Sep 1974: "Registration District: South Shields; 1845; Birth in Sub-district of Westoe in the County of Durham; No. 133; Born 22 Feb 1845 at Stay the Voyage Boldon, Thomas, boy, Isaac Burnhope father, Elizabeth Burnhope formerly Charlton mother, occupation of father: platelayer; informant: Elizabeth Burnhope living at Stay the Voyage (her mark X); registered 24 Feb 1845 by C. Johnson, registrar." May also be on FHL film 522586.

2. Per obituary.

3. Copy of holographic journal found by Chris Petersen; he does not note author but source of FHL film 362685 is cited. It has much information on the Isaac Burnhope family including the following for this particular individual: "Thomas Burnhope, born Feb'y 22, 1845 at Boldon, Dur. Baptised by Charles Benson, Nov. 1863."

4. Per cemetery record.

5. Handwritten note on the back of a commercial advertising letter dated 1895 [on file], source unknown but appears to be a child of Cornelius and Harriet Osborne:
"Edward Lamberth, borned June 27/37
George F., October 29/39
Sampson D. Jany 2/42
Mary A., March 27/44
Cornelius, May 27/47
Lambeth, Jany 4/53
Dad, Aug 11/13 Arlington, Sussex
Mother, Decr 25, 1809 Crayford, Kent
Thomas Burnhope Feb. 22, 1845"

DEATH:
1. Ogden City Cemetery online: Thomas Burnhope, b. 22 Feb 1845 in England, d. 1 Apr 1922 at Ogden, UT, father is Isaac Burnhope, plot D-4-2-1E. Note there are two entries for Thomas with the second showing same plot but with a death date of 31 Mar 1922 in Tremonton, UT.

2. Lot 2, Block 4, Plat D, Ogden, Utah. Tombstone in Ogden Utah Pioneer Cemetery shows birth as 22 Feb 1845 and death as 31 Mar 1922. Approximately 18 total relatives (Osbornes, Burnhopes, Petersens, McCarrels, and Koepkes) buried in near proximity.

3. Per obituary.

BURIAL:
1. Per obituary.

2. Per cemetery record.

OBITUARY:
1. "Ogden Man Dies on Visit in Tremonton. Thomas Burnhope, one of the pioneers of Ogden, died at the home of his son, Isaac Burnhope of Tremonton, aged 77 years. Mr. Burnhope was born in England, Feb. 22, 1845. He became a member of the L.D.S. church when a young man and came to Utah over 50 years ago. He made his home in Ogden until 18 months ago. Surviving are his son, Isaac Burnhope, of Tremonton, and daughter, Mrs. Peter Peterson, of Ogden. There also survive seven grandchildren, one sister, Mrs. Betsy Mattensen of Payson. The body will arrive in Ogden Sunday morning and will be taken in charge by Larkin & Sons. Funeral services will be held Monday at 1 o'clock in the Sixth ward meetinghouse, conducted by Bishop A.B. Foulger. The body may be viewed at his former home, 2264 Madison avenue, Sunday afternoon and evening and Monday until 12:30 o'clock. Interment in the city cemetery." Ogden Standard Examiner, Sat., 1 Apr 1922.

2. "Long Time Resident of Ogden Laid at Rest. Ogden, April 3. - Funeral services for Thomas Burnhope, 77, were held this afternoon at the Sixth ward chapel with Bishop Arthur B. Foulger officiating. Interment was in the Ogden cemetery. Mr. Burnhope died Friday at the home of his son, Isaac Burnhope, at Tremonton. He was born in England Feb. 22, 1845, and came to Utah 50 years ago as a member of the Church. He lived in Ogden until 18 months ago. Surviving are his son and one daughter, Mrs. Peter Petersen of Ogden, and a sister, Mrs. Betsy Mattesen of Payson." Deseret News, Mon., 3 Apr 1922, p. 10.

3. Funeral services for Thomas Burnhope, who died at the home of his son, Isaac Burnhope, in Tremonton, were held yesterday at 1 o'clock in the Sixth ward meeting house. Bishop Albert Foulger officiatied. 'O My Father' was sung by Marion Sumners; a violin solo was played by Ellen White; 'Face to Face' and 'I Know My Redeemer Lives,' were sung by by Gerald Klomp; 'Sometimes We'll undersand' was given by William S. Wright. The speakers were Bishop M.P. Jorgensen, H.B. Coles of Bothwell, E.A. Lakin and Bishop A.B. Foulger. Four granddaughters of the deceased acted as flower bearers, Miss Marguerite Burnhope, Miss Lucile Burnhope, Miss Helen Petersen and Miss Thelma Peterson. Burial was in the city cemetery with Bishop Foulger dedicating the grave." Ogden Standard Examiner, Tues., 4 Apr 1922.

4. The newspaper "The Ogden Standard-Examiner," April 6, 1922:
"Card of Thanks.
The loving sympathy of relatives and friends extended during our recent bereavement in the illness and demise of our beloved father, Thomas Burnhope, was a source of great comfort and we desire hereby to express our heartfelt thanks.
Isaac Burnhope and Family.
Peter Petersen and Family."

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Family records compiled by Marguerite Burnhope abt 1922. South Shields Branch records (Birth 22 Feb 1845, Stay the Voyage; Baptism 5 Nov 1863). Endowment: TIB (End. House; 5 Nov 1863; Book G, Nr. 6831, Pg 233) 
Burnhope, Thomas Charlton (I8)
 
4816 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In mother's obituary of 25 May 1887, she notes 2 daughters and 4 sons alive. This confirms this individual was still alive at that time. Of the siblings, Jane Ann Burnhope Spens was the only one deceased at that time which coincides perfectly with this database.

2. Censuses:
1851 Eng: Whitburn, Durham, p. 16 of 20, #60, res: Stay the Voyage:
Isaac Burnhope, 42, platelayer, b. Northumberland, Weamley.
Elizabeth, wife, 44, b. Northumberland, Hendon-in-the-Wall.
Wm., son, 18, sailor, b. Northumberland, Sunnyside.
Mary Ann, dau., 16, b. Northumberland, Sunnyside.
Jane, dau., 11, b. Durham, East Bolden.
Isaac, son, 8, b. Durham, East Bolden.
Thomas, son,. 6, b. Durham, East Bolden.
Betsy, dau., 2, b. Durham, East Bolden.

1861 England: District 21, Whitburn parish, Durham, p. 21 of 23, house: Stay the Voyage:
Isaac Burnop, mar., 52, plate layer.
Elizabeth, wife, mar., 54, b. Durham, Newburn.
Isaac, son, 18, plate layer, b. Durham, Whitburn.
Thomas, son, 16, plate layer, b. Durham, Whitburn.
Betsy, dau., 12, b. Durham, Whitburn.
Eliza Mitchell, visitor, sing., 20, dressmaker, b. Scotland.

1871 British: East Rainton Parish, High Moorsley Village, Moorsley, North Durham, England, p. 2 of 42:
Isaac Burnhope, 28, colliery joiner, b. Durham, East Bolden.
Jane, wife, 25, b. Durham, Westerton.
Thomas C., son, 5, b. Durham, Moorsley.
Maragret A., dau., 3, b. Durham, Moorsley.
Joseph, son, 1, b. Durham, Moorsley.
Maria J., dau., 2 mos., b. Durham, Moorsley.

1881 British: Moorsley, Durham, England, FHL film 1342197, RG11-4976/125, p. 16, #78 High Moorsley:
Isaac Burnhope, married, 28 [typo for 38?], East Boldon, Durham, Eng., coal miner.
Jane, wife, married, 35, Westerton, Durham, England.
Thomas, son, 15, Moorsley, Durham, Eng., coal miner.
Mary A., dau., 13, Moorsley, Durham, Eng.
Joseph, son, 11, Moorsley, Durham, Eng.
Maria J., dau., 10, Moorsley, Durham, Eng. [Maria Jane died 25 Feb 1885 aged 14 years at High Moorsley per photo of tombstone on file.]
Elizabeth, dau., 13, Moorsley, Durham, Eng.
George, son, 5, Moorsley, Durham, Eng.
Isaac, son, 3, Moorsley, Durham, Eng.

1891 British: Moorsley, Durham, res.: #15 High Moorsley, p. 4 of 38:
Isaac Burnhope, married, 48, b. Boldon, Durham, Eng., coal miner.
Jane, wife, married, 45, Wisterton, Durham, England.
Thomas, son, 25, sing., Moorsley, Durham, Eng., coal miner.
Joseph, son, 21, sing., coal miner., Moorsley, Durham, Eng.
Elizabeth, dau., 17, Moorsley, Durham, Eng.
George, son, 15, Moorsley, Durham, Eng.
Isaac, son, 13, Moorsley, Durham, Eng.
William, son, 10, Moorsley, Durham.
Mary Han., dau., 7, Moorsley, Durham.
John, son, 4, Moorsley, Durham.

1901 British: Moorsley, Durham, res.: #15 High Moorsley, p. 4 of 34:
Isaac Burnhope, married, 56, b. E. Boldon, Durham, Eng., coal miner.
Jane, wife, married, 55, Westerton, Durham, England.
Isaac, son, 23, Moorsley, Durham, Eng., coal miner.
Will'm, son, 19, Moorsley, Durham, coal miner.
Marg't H., dau., 17, Moorsley, Durham.
John, son, 14, Moorsley, Durham, pony driver in coal pit.

3. Reviewed Ancestry.com 23 Nov 2002.

4. Per website www.Nathanielspens.com which references IGI, they had the following children:
Thomas Charlton Burnhope was born in 1866 in West Bolton, Northumberland, England.
Margaret Ann Burnhope was born in 1868 in West Bolton, Northumberland, England.
Joseph Burnhope was born in 1869 in West Bolton, Northumberland, England.
Maria Burnhope was born in 1871 in West Boldon, Northumberland, England.
Elizabeth Burnhope was born in 1873 in West Bolton, Northumberland, England.
George Burnhope was born in 1875 in West Bolton, Northumberland, England.
Isaac Burnhope was born in 1877 in West Bolton, Northumberland, England.
Mary Hannah Burnhope was born about 1884 in West Boldon, Northumberland, England.

BIRTH:
1. Birth Cert.; General Register Office, London, England; Registration District, South Shields; Subdistrict: Westoe in the County of Durham: Isaac, son of Isaac Burnhope (platelayer) and Elizabeth Burnhope formerly Charlton, b. 23 Oct 1842 at East Boldon. May also be on FHL film 522586.

2. Chris Petersen noting ward records, FHL film 87033, says 22 Oct 1842; however, birth certificate of 23 Oct 1842 would be the best source and the one I use.

3. Copy of holographic journal found by Chris Petersen; he does not note author but source of FHL film 362685 is cited. It has much information on the Isaac Burnhope family including the following for this particular individual: "Isaac Burnhope, Jun., born Oct. 22, 1843, West Boldon, Durham Co., Baptised Nov. 1863."

DEATH:
1. Per LDS Ancestral File v.4.19.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. South Shields branch records (Birth 22 Oct 1842, Bapt. 5 Nov 1863)-GS87033, pg. 7).

2. Family group sheet submitted by Josephine H. Bird, 404 Cedar St., Mt. Vernon, Washington. She then lived in Orem, Utah. She cites personal records and autobiographies of Elizabeth Charlton Wallace Hickenlooper and Mary Ann Burnhope Wallace. 
Burnhope, Isaac Jr. (I7)
 
4817 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In mother's obituary of 25 May 1887, she notes 2 daughters and 4 sons alive. This confirms this individual was still alive at that time. Of the siblings, Jane Ann Burnhope Spens was the only one deceased at that time which coincides perfectly with this database.

2. See notes for Thomas Wallace with which there is included a transcription of his membership record with the following note: "Jane Burnhope Spense, daughter of Isaac Burnhope and Elizabeth Charlton, born 17 Jan 1840 at East Boldon, Durham Co., Eng., died at American Fork 28 Apr 1865. Thomas and Mary A. Burnhope Wallace reed 2nd 14 Jul 1886. Elvira Stowell reed 2nd 14 Jul 1886. Mary A. Burnhope Wallace Proxy."

3. Reviewed Ancestry.com 23 Nov 2002.

4. Censuses:
1841 Eng: Westoe, Bedlington, Durham, p. 6 of 9, none born in county except Jane:
Isaac Burnip, 30, ag lab.
Elizabeth, 30.
William, 9.
Mary, 6.
Joseph, 4.
Jane, 1.
James Henderson, 25, ag. lab., not born in county.

1851 Eng: Whitburn, Durham, p. 16 of 20, #60, res: Stay the Voyage:
Isaac Burnhope, 42, platelayer, b. Northumberland, Weamley.
Elizabeth, wife, 44, b. Northumberland, Hendon-in-the-Wall.
Wm., son, 18, sailor, b. Northumberland, Sunnyside.
Mary Ann, dau., 16, b. Northumberland, Sunnyside.
Jane, dau., 11, b. Durham, East Bolden.
Isaac, son, 8, b. Durham, East Bolden.
Thomas, son,. 6, b. Durham, East Bolden.
Betsy, dau., 2, b. Durham, East Bolden.

BIRTH:
1. Birth Cert.; General Register Office, London, England; Registration District, South Shields; Subdistrict: Westoe in the County of Durham: Jane, dau. of Isaac Burnoph (laborer) and Elizabeth Burnoph formerly Charlton, b. 17 Jan 1840 at East Bolden.

2. See note cited above on brother-in-law's membership record.

3. Copy of holographic journal found by Chris Petersen; he does not note author but source of FHL film 362685 is cited. It has much information on the Isaac Burnhope family including the following for this particular individual: "Jane Burnhope, born Jan'y 17, 1840."

4. Marriage sealing done after her death by her husband in 1869 shows reported birthdate of 13 Oct 1840 at Hexham, Cumberland, England. I do not use this considering it is secondhand and at variance to the birth certificate cited above.

BIOGRAPHY:
1. Partial quote from website : "Nathaniel Spens' Biography, draft by Louise Brown, February 2, 2003 [see notes for Nathaniel Spens for full citation]: " Jane Ann Burnhope. Later in 1861 Nathaniel returned to Newcastle-Upon-Tyne and, on Sep 4, 1861, he married Jane Ann Burnhope - a Mormon! Nathaniel's brother, John, a confectioner, was present as a witness along with John Findley who has appeared as a witness on numerous other occasions. The wedding took place in the St. John's Parish Church "according to the rites and ceremonies of the Established Church after banns." We do not know the story of Nathaniel's introduction to Jane Burnhope or to the Latter-Day Saints, or the Mormons, as they were disparagingly called. Did he meet the missionaries while walking to and from his work? Or perhaps Jane Burnhope introduced him to the missionaries. What is known is that Thomas Wallace was a traveling Elder and married to Jane Ann Burnhope's sister, Mary Ann Burnhope and that later Nathaniel and Jane Ann would follow Mary Ann and Thomas Wallace to Utah. There are no records of Nathaniel's church affiliation after his baptism in the New Jerusalem Church nor of his family continuing with the Swedenborgian faith. Unlike the large building of the New Jerusalem Church in Edinburgh where Nathaniel had been christened, the Latter-Day Saints in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne were grateful for the small rented meeting room on Nelson Street in which to worship. According to the Sunderland and South Shields Branch records, Jane Ann Burnhope was born Jan 18, 1840 in Boldon, Durham, England and baptized May 31, 1853 in Hendon Bay. Her baptism record can be found in the South Shields Branch in Northumberland. Her personal decision to be baptized and accept the gospel was encouraged and supported by her parents, Isaac Burnhope and Elizabeth Charlton who joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints a few months prior to Jane Ann. Unlike the Burnhopes' joy over their daughter's affiliation with the Mormons, Nathaniel's marriage to a Mormon seems to have resulted in a division among family members. If not earlier, a division among the Spens family members became apparent following Nathaniel's decision to be baptized a Mormon on March 4, 1862. According to The Manuscript History of the British Mission, Elder Moses F. Farnsworth arrived in England on the 14th of August, 1862, shortly after Nathaniel's baptism and labored in the Newcastle-on-Tyne District as a traveling Elder, until called, on the 1st of May, 1863, to preside over said district. There does not appear to be any record of the Newcastle-Upon-Tyne Branch activities in the early 1860s to verify Nathaniel's self-reported baptism date. During the first three years of their marriage, Nathaniel and Jane had two children and prepared to gather to Zion. First, Isobell Irvine, (pronounced Arvin by the Scotts, and thus written by the British registrar) was born in Jarrow, South Shields, Durham, England May 10, 1862 and named after Nathaniel's mother. Twelve months later, William Burnhope Spens was born 7 May 1863 in Jared, Durham, England, according to family tradition - there is no birth registration for William. On April 23, 1861, Jane Ann's sister, Mary Ann Burnhope Wallace left England for America, traveling with her husband Thomas Michael Wallace and daughter Annie (born 18 April 1860) on board the ship "Underwriter." Mary Ann states they came to America "for the Gospel's sake, "arriving in New York 22 May 1861. As Jane Ann and Nathaniel would later learn the Wallace family traveled to Winter Quarters and remained there from 2 June 1861 until 30 June 1861, at which time they began the trek across the plains by ox team with Captain Ira Eldredge. She noted that the captain was very kind and "had the mothers with babies ride all the way" while their husbands walked. This family arrived in Salt Lake City 15 September 1861 and in the spring of 1862 settled in American Fork where they bought a large one-room log home with one window. The first payment of $150 was made by selling their best clothes. On January 9, 1862 Nathaniel's sister, Sarah, lost her second husband, Cuthbert Douse. At that time Sarah and her family were living at 61 East Elswick Lane in Newcastle-upon-Tyne. James Spens reported Cuthbert's death and listed the same address as his own.
Crossing the ocean. Between 1841 and 1855, most Mormon converts traveled to "Zion" by sailing to New Orleans then up the Mississippi River to various departure points. After 1856, however, options included travel by railroad from New York to Chicago and beyond. Elder George Q. Cannon, president of the European Mission, chartered three ships in 1864, "The General McClellan," "The Monarch of the Sea" and "The Hudson." These three ships transported a total of 2,633 Saints from Liverpool to New York City. The latter two ships made the voyage in 36 and 45 days respectfully [respctively]. In general immigrations to the U.S were very low due to the on-going Civil War. Undaunted, Jane and Nathaniel prepared to travel to the land of Zion to join with the Saints. Jane Ann must have looked forward to reuniting herself with her dear sister, Mary Ann. Among their possessions to be taken were Nathaniel's graining brushes, a small photograph album and a wooden-panel painting by Nathaniel. On Saturday, May 21, 1864 just after Willie's first birthday, Nathaniel and his little family sailed from Liverpool, England for New York City aboard "The General McClellan," commanded by Captain G. D. S. Trask. The following account is taken from the Millennial Star: "This ship was chartered to sail on the 20th ult. but, owing to the rain which set in, the upper deck could not be used for the purpose of examination of passengers, who had, consequently; to undergo inspection between decks. This put them to some inconvenience and discomfort, but, not withstanding this, we did not hear one unkind word or one ill-natured remark from the Saints during the proceedings, which occupied some little time. In consequence of unavoidable delays, the vessel could not be cleared until next day (21st). On the morning of the 21st President Cannon, with a number of Elders, proceeded on board the vessel for the purpose of organizing the company" (Mill. Star 26:364). Appropriate instructions were given to the Saints aboard "The General McClellan." Three returning missionaries on board were called to serve as a presidency to assist the Saints in gathering to Zion. Elder Thomas E. Jeremy was appointed to preside over the company, with Elders Joseph Bull and George G. Bywater as counselors. Elder John C. Graham who had labored in the "Millenniel Star" office for many years was appointed clerk. The account in the Millenniel Star continues, "The ship was divided off into (twelve) wards, over each of which an Elder was placed to preside. On the evening of the 21st the vessel proceeded to sea, laden with her freight of precious souls, and accompanied by the best wishes and prayers of all true Saints. She had 802 souls on board, nearly all of whom have paid their fares through to Wyoming." The Elders appointed over the wards assisted the presidency with the spiritual needs of the Saints as well as "serving out provisions" for the physical needs of these Saints. May 21, 1864, John C. Graham, clerk, sent the following communication to President Cannon through the kindness of the pilot: "All the Saints on board seem quite satisfied with their new condition. They have not yet had time to experience the effects of traveling, having been only about three hours on our way, (we started from off the Landing-stage at 6:15 p.m.); still those disagreeable effects which are invariably experienced by poor landsmen (such for instance, as myself) I presume will, in due time, be felt by our company. At present, I can hear the notes of some beautiful hymn being sung with evident delight and happiness, by a large portion of the passengers, and I suppose their countenances bear the marks of joy and gratitude for the deliverance which is afforded them by the Almighty, judging by the feeling with which they sing the verses of the hymn. We pray that our passage may be a safe, prosperous and happy one. It has been what thousands of our brethren and sisters have realized by their faith and trust in Him, and it is what we may realize, too, if we place our dependence upon God, who is the deliverer of his Saints, and the great Captain of our salvation. I hope, that I may be true to my holy calling and ever be found trying to work out my personal salvation. I have set out for this purpose. Nothing but my religion would ever have educed me to leave my native land with those prospects which are before me. I go to Zion to serve God, and I pray that when I get there I may do so (see Manuscript History of the British Mission, pp. 3-4)." On May 22, Brother Graham made the following entry: "We are just off Holyhead - all well. The boat that towed us out is just leaving. Everyone feels well, so far as I know. Those who felt a little regret before starting, now are quite satisfied and contented. I expect there will be many soon experience some disagreeable feelings - the ship having her sails unfurled and tossing a bit. We have now a fair wind and good prospects." We can only surmise the individual experience of the Spens family on board "The General McClellen" as they crossed the Atlantic Ocean, leaving behind their homeland. We do, however, have a carefully written account prepared as a report to President Cannon. Written Sunday, June 19th the report provides general information about the passage from Liverpool to New York City acquainting President Cannon and friends left behind of the expected "safe arrival of the ship and its precious cargo": "Our distance from the desired port is but 450 miles, which, with some of the winds that we have had while on the voyage, might very soon be made; but, with the winds that we at present have, it is not likely that we will be able to reach New York much before the expiration of another week." The brethren went on to explain that there were several sick on board who have, "since leaving England, suffered very much from extreme weakness." About the voyage, the Presidency reported: "Since bidding you adieu we have had cause for no other feeling but that of gratitude to our Father in heaven for the manifold blessings which have been conferred upon us during the passage thus far. The power of the Holy Ghost, with its healing influences, has been often demonstrated in our midst. Suffice it to say, no company could wish for a better and indeed, we very much doubt if they could have a pleasanter passage across the mighty deep than this company has had. Health has almost generally prevailed; peace, concord and the Spirit of God have been abundantly manifested." President Cannon was told that the pleasant weather, according to the captain, "has been made for the Latter-day Saints." Not only was the fair weather a subject of surprise to Captain Trask, but also the health of the crowded Saints. It is noted in the report that both the captain and the surgeon admitted, "that for such a large company, they never were associated with a more healthy or a happier class of people." Statistics confirm the health of the Saints. During the voyage only one death was reported. Five-week-old Seth Holgate died on June 6th and was consigned to a watery grave as his father mourned, his mother having died before the voyage began. Two babies were born and named after the ship - Jenny McClellan Gee and George McClellan Hutchison - the babies were healthy and both mothers recovered. The brethren went on to give more details of the voyage, recounting that "a good easterly wind" had taken the boat along smoothly for eleven days. Then came frequent head winds and a few calms, "and in consequence, the ship has had a great deal of tacking to do in order to take what advantage she could of the wind." Not withstanding the over-all good weather, some rough weather is also described: "On the night of Thursday, the 9th inst., while in the vicinity of the Banks of Newfoundland, the wind rose to a high degree, and continued to rage with increasing fury during the whole of the night. It was during this night that the ship experienced the greatest shock it had ever before, since it has been a ship, received. It was caused by a heavy sea which rolled forward in her course and completely engulfed the bow of the ship, causing the after part of the vessel to rise to a fearful height. The man on the look-out on the forecastle deck, and the man at the wheel, were nearly carried away. Such a noise of boxes falling and tins jumping caused the air to reverberate in a not very melodious manner; the cracking of timbers, mingled with a chorus of juvenile voices, you would never desire to hear again. The night was foggy (the horn being blown every few minutes), and as icebergs had been seen and felt - it was very naturally concluded that the ship had struck one of those formidable bodies and sprung a leak, for the rushing of water could be distinctly heard. However, the fears of the people were soon quieted by the reassuring words of the first officer who cried below, 'All's right,' and the words of a hymn soon restored to the timid and fearful, confidence..." Christopher Alston (Carter, 1965) was eleven years old at the time of crossing. He later recorded the storm, never having been told that, although there were icebergs in the vacinity, an iceberg did not strike the ship: "One night, in dense fog, our ship struck a monstrous iceberg and was nearly wrecked, but was miraculously saved. It was thrown from side to side - people, utensils and luggage in one great pile. The rattle of pans, dishes and baggage, and the cries of women and Children, the shouts of men, the commands of officers, the banging and bumping of the ship against the iceberg made it seem as if two monsters were trying to beat each other to pieces and the great floating mountain of ice would overwhelm the sturdy ship and sink her in the deep sea with all on board. But it was not to be so, we were in the hands of the "Master of ocean and earth and skies." Weather permitting, general meetings were held on deck and the Elders gave discourses on "the blessings which God had vouchsafed unto the Saints." Individual ward meetings were held morning and evening, and were devoted to singing, testimony bearing and praying. On the 19th of June a conference was held on deck "at which most of the passengers convened. The Presidents of the Wards occupied the chief portion of the time in bearing testimony, and advancing some timely counsel suited to the circumstances under which the Saints are placed. At this meeting several resolutions of thanks to the officers of the ship were drawn up and tendered to them, expressive of the gratitude of the Saints for the watchful care which had been shown to make them comfortable." A major item of business on the 19th of June was preparation for landing and is noted in the report to President Cannon: "In anticipation of sundry expenses which the company may have to meet - such, for instance, as the passing of the baggage through the Customs, and supporting on the journey from New York to Wyoming, those who are destitute of funds, of whom we find an unusually large number - we have made collections in the various Wards. Our call was cheerfully responded to by those who possessed means, and many were found to be acting too generously, for they were to some extent depriving themselves of what they would necessarily require. Again, in accordance with your instructions, the Saints have been recommended to deposit their sterling money in our hands, for the purpose of converting it into American currency, and taking for them advantage of the market. Those who possessed gold and silver readily transferred it for that purpose into our hands. Every preparation necessary to be made for the landing of the company at New York and everything that we could do to facilitate the business consequent on their deembarkation, have been done in view of lightening the labors of our brethren there." With so many people crowded together, the leaders were very strict and rigid in reference to cleanliness. There were a very few whose unclean habits needed repeated instruction. "Altogether, however, we can boast of a clean and orderly body of people, and the fact that none have been afflicted with any other complaint than sea-sickness, is sufficient to justify our statement." On Tuesday, June 21st, Nathaniel celebrated his 26th birthday. About 3:00 p.m. on that same day there was a "terrific commotion" on board. Someone had sighted the pilot boat. "The pilot! The pilot! The cry was taken up between decks followed by a tumultuous rush up the hatchway, and folks lined the bulwarks immediately, to await the pilot's arrival. Dinners were abandoned for the time, and a general holiday all over the ship appeared to be in full enjoyment, the excitement being intense." The pilot arrived "admidst thunders of applause." The "General McClellen" was about 130 miles from New York, traveling at about 11 1/2 knots per hour. On Wednesday, June 22nd, at 4:00 p.m., Sandy Hook came into view after 32 days of sailing. The report continued, "Expect to anchor for the night as soon as we get through Quarantine." Expecting to be leaving the ship, the resolution of thanks prepared by the company for the Captain was presented to Captain Trask shortly after sighting Sandy Hook. The Captain made the following written reply: "Gentlemen (Messrs. Jeremy, Bull, Bywater and Graham), - You will please accept and convey to the passengers my thanks for the very handsome testimonial which you have presented me with. I am happy that my endeavors to make your passage pleasant and agreeable have been successful, and acknowledge the pride I feel in so flattering an approval of my course and conduct. The gratitude evinced, the regard conveyed, and the thorough feeling of kindness and respect manifested by them, are both appreciated and reciprocated, and will be long treasured. And I trust this favorable passage is a foreshadowing of the remainder of your journey - not only to Utah, but through life - and that you and they may be richly blessed in the enjoyments a good people are deserving of. Signed GOD. Trask." NEW YORK, AMERICA. On that same June 22, in the evening the report to President Cannon continued with the following message: "9 o'clock p.m. - Just anchored in the bay. The people passed the medical officer without difficulty. Captain Trask handed Brother Graham a couple of sovereigns, one to be given to each of the parents of the two children born on the voyage, accompanied by his best wishes for the children's welfare. May the Lord bless him for his kindness to the people." The conclusion of the report was written on Thursday morning, June 23, 1864: "We are now waiting for our landing at Castle Gardens, so we will bring this letter to a close, and pray that God may bless you and all whom we have left behind, with the choicest of his blessings" (Mill. Star 26:476). Castle Garden was formerly known as Castle Clinton. Castle Clinton was a federal fort built in 1807 when tension between Great Britain and the United States was escalating. Situated on an island some 300 feet off the tip of Manhattan Island, its 28 guns and eight-foot-thick walls offered security through the War of 1812. In 1823 Castle Clinton was converted to a theater, renamed Castle Garden, and was the scene of many spectacular social events. Not many years later, Castle Garden was incorporated into Manhattan by landfill from the construction of subways. In 1855 Castle Garden became an immigrant landing depot and during the next 45 years about eight million people, including Nathaniel Spens, were processed at the old fort. Finally, in 1890, the federal government took over the state-operated reception depot after numerous reports of corrupt officials exploiting unsuspecting aliens. The continuing influx of immigrants swamped Castle Garden and, in 1892, the operation was transferred to Ellis Island. In 1946 Fort Castle Clinton was restored and designated as a National Monument (Allen, 1990). There were upwards of one thousand emigrants at Castle Garden in advance of the Saints aboard "The General McClellan," and it was necessary to spend one more night on board the ship. Elders Joseph A. Young, Brigham Young, Jr. and Paul A. Schettler boarded the ship Thursday evening and addressed the Saints. They expressed satisfaction at the prearrangement of the business connected with the landing of the people and their further journey toward Wyoming. Elders J. A. Young, B. Young, Jr., and Schettler had not received communication respecting the business of these Saints nor a list of the passengers. Notwithstanding the mail steamer with this information had been detained at sea, these three brethren were able to settle everything with surprisingly little difficulty as noted in the presidency's report: "There was but one obstacle that we foresaw would interfere with our immediate departure from New York, and that was the examination of the passengers' baggage, which we anticipated would be diligently overhauled by the officers. Doubtless through the heavy demands on the United States Government for the continued support of the expensive war now being waged upon this continent, a strict and rigid system of searching emigrants' luggage for contraband articles, is enforced; the officers charge for almost everything besides what individuals are clothed with. This obstacle, however, was removed, and we succeeded in having everything landed without the people being detained in New York longer than twelve hours. We left New York in the afternoon (Friday, June 24) for Albany, by the magnificent steamboat, St. John, and arrived early the following morning (Saturday, June 25). The organization of the company remained, at Brother Joseph A. Young's desire, as it originally stood."
Travel from New York to Nebraska. According to young Christopher Alstron, the company traveled up the Hudson River toward Canada "to avoid the Armies of the Rebellion, broken bridges, uptorn railways, etc. incident to a war which was raging in the States between the North and the South, with blood and rapine in all the land " (Carter, 1965). After a few hours in Albany, the Saints continued their journey by "cars" (railway cars). On Sunday morning they reached Rochester where they were detained until 2 o'clock in the afternoon, according to the Manuscript History of the British Mission. There had been "an accident to the luggage-train locomotive which was in our rear." At Buffalo, "in consequence of our detention at Rochester," railroad officials distributed a quantity of biscuits and cheese to the passengers. Another distribution was made at Fort Huron. At Chicago Judge Kinney of Utah and Elders William S. Godbe and Francis A. H. Mitch gave President Thomas E. Jeremy fifty dollars to assist the immigrating Saints. According to the Manuscript History of the British Mission, "This money and the generous help of the railroad officials were much appreciated as a large number of the emigrants were entirely destitute of means and dependent upon President Jeremy and his assistants to supply their needs." Parley P. Pratt joined this company in Chicago and traveled with them to Wyoming near Omaha, Nebraska Territory. [Kerry's note: this appears incorrect since Parley died circa 1857 unless this should be Orson Pratt, Parley's brother.] Nathaniel must have heard firsthand some of the stories this missionary shares with present-day readers through his autobiography. Parley's joining the Saints surely was one of "the blessing of the Lord" noted to have been upon the travelers, "his providence has met us under every ill-favoured circumstance and supplied our wants." The presidency continue their report, "To no other power but the power of the Almighty can be ascribed our prosperity and success." On July 1, 1864 after six days on the train, the Saints arrived in St. Joseph, Missouri and "occupied a large shed-room attached to the warehouse of the Steam-packet Company." Having arrived on the frontier of civilization, the Saints took extreme safety precautions according to the following details from the Manuscript History: "Every able-bodied man was stationed as a guard, so that clear around the building there was a strong guard watching the safety and property of those who slept. Some of the Saints preferred sleeping in the open air, in consequence of the intense heat, which is such as many - especially from the old country - never experienced before. Around these was also stationed a strong guard." On July 2nd about half-past ten in the morning, the journey by steamer up the Missouri River began with the expectation of reaching Wyoming by the 3rd in the evening. As expected, on July 3rd, the company reached their destination of Wyoming, Nebraska Territory. No deaths had occurred since little Seth died while crossing the Atlantic. With only one or two exceptions, all the Saints who left England with this company, together with a few who had joined the company in New York and along the way, arrived in Wyoming safely.
Crossing the Plains. Wyoming was a village situated on the west bank of the Missouri River, seven miles north of Nebraska City and 40 miles south of Omaha, Nebraska. The village of Wyoming was selected by the Church leaders as an outfitting station that year (Mill. Star 27:16). Two large warehouses had been constructed in addition to a store, the emigration office, a coral and a few dwellings. Elder Joseph Young was in charge of the outfitting station. Earlier this particular year, at Brigham Young's request, the Utah Church members again responded to the call to assist emigrating Saints. A total of 170 wagons, 1,717 oxen, 58 horses and 28 mules were sent in charge of six captains, 27 mounted guards and 144 experienced teamsters (Journal History of March 6, 1864). More was needed than transportation and good [h]onest men who were expected to conduct themselves as if on a mission. Supplies requested for the trip East included molasses, grain, meat, and cotton. A large amount of freight was also sent to Utah from Wyoming, Nebraska. The Union Pacific Railroad did not begin to move west from Omaha until July 10, 1865 so all freight ordered by merchants, contractors and private individuals was freighted through the Church Emigration Office. Merchandise, ironware, stoves, glass and other commodities were loaded on wagons and moved west. President Joseph Young stated that "after all the wagons had been loaded, there were still one hundred tons of freight in the warehouses ready for shipment." Gold seekers and pioneers migrating west to California, Oregon and Washington increased the shortage of good wagons and strong animals for the Latter-Day Saints' use. Immediately the newly-arrived Saints began preparing for their overland journey of more than a thousand miles - across the great plains of Nebraska, over the mountains in Wyoming and Utah and finally into the Great Salt Lake Valley to their new home in Zion. From the Presidency's report we read: "The Saints have commenced camp life already. Some are sleeping in wagons, others under tents, and others, again, with nothing but the sky to cover them. This change in their mode of life, however, has its novelty and its pleasures. A few only express themselves dissatisfied with the change, and because of the inconveniences they have been subjected to, consider that the Work of God here and on the journey hither, is not the same glorious Work which they labored to promote in those lands whence they came." Most of the Saints were assigned either to Captain Rawlins or to Captain Warren's company. Nathaniel, Jane and their children, Isabella and Willie, were assigned to the Rawlins Company, and on July 15th, just twelve days after their arrival in Camp Wyoming, continued on their way west. Joseph S. Rawlins's train was partially loaded with freight and families were assigned to certain wagons. According to the recollections of Harry M. Payne whose family joined the company in Camp Wyoming, his family and relatives, totaling fifteen people, loaded "all their earthly possessions on top of a part of a load of freight." So many assigned to one wagon naturally required "all able-bodied individuals make the journey on foot" (Payne, 1974). Richard Daniels Brown, Jr. joined the train part way across the prairie and noted that he had "walked on the prairie with sore feet, bleeding and hungry" before finding his parents in this train (Brown, 1973). Christopher Alstron remembered walking the full 1,100 miles on foot. He recalled severe trials and hardships. One particular night "after the tents were set up and the camp was asleep, there came up a fearful wind, then rain fell in torrents, and every tent was blown down except the one we were in..." Christopher goes on to recount details that must have matched the chores and worries of other young boys in the company. The same worries must have been shared by Nathaniel and Jane whose children were too young to assist them: "Crossing the prairie there was no fuel other than buffalo chips with which to cook our little meals of bread and meat. Think of cooking your supper, after a long day's walk, over a fire of "chips" with the wind blowing over the great plains, and sometimes rain putting out the fire, and going to bed without any supper, getting up in the morning at daylight to find everything soaking wet and nothing to burn to cook your breakfast with, hooking up the oxen and traveling until noon, trying to find some dry "chips" to make a fire to cook dinner! Such was our life on the plains before we reached the mountain country where we procured sticks to use with the "chips" (Carter, 1965). From the Millennial Star (26: 460, 476, 479, 539, 717-718) we learn more details of their journey: "Captain Joseph. S. Rawlins Church Train of ox-drawn wagons and consisting of a large company of emigrating Saints, left Wyoming, Nebraska Territory on July 15, 1864. Most of these Saints crossed the Atlantic in the ship, 'General McClellan.' " Captain Rawlins was at Laramie on the 20th of August (p.717). Another telegram indicated the train was at Deer Creek on the 26th of August and reported that "nine oxen died between Laramie and here." From a telegram sent to President Brigham Young from the Sweetwater Bridge under date of Sept. 1st, it was learned that "the train was in fine condition, traveling all right and all doing well." From one more telegram, sent from the Little Sandy Sept. 9th, it was learned that "the train was still in good condition, company well and cattle traveling well." A list of passengers in this company was published in the Deseret News Weekly, Vol 13, on August 17, 1864 on page 369 in anticipation of the company's arrival. The list was also published in Journal History September 20, 1864, on page one. Besides the Rawlins Company, five other church trains and three independent companies left Wyoming, Nebraska that same year. According to the Millennial Star (27:16), "Of the 2,697 emigrants, 118 provided their own teams. About 2,508 Saints (including Nathaniel Spens and his family) crossed the plains in Church Trains." The emigrants' nationalities were noted as 1343 English, 209 Scotch, 12 Irish, 132 Welsh, 427 Danes, 338 Swedes, 14 Norwegians, 31 Germans, 60 Dutch, 10 French, 79 Swiss, 1 Russian, 1 Italian and 20 Americans. Nathaniel is suspected to have announced himself as a Scot even though his little family were all English. The last train left the outfitting village of Wyoming, Nebraska in August and arrived in Salt Lake City November 2nd. President Joseph Young reported the last train had some worry of Indian trouble in Nebraska but proceeded safely. He noted that 1864 had been a prosperous season of work.
Utah at last. In four months Nathaniel, Jane and their two children, traveling by ship, steamer, railway and ox-cart, had crossed the Atlantic Ocean, the United States, the great plains and the Continental Divide. All had gone well for Nathaniel and Jane. Then, on September 4, 1864, three days after leaving Sweetwater Bridge and just sixteen days before the J. S. Rawlins company arrived in the Great Salt Lake Valley, little Willie Spens died. We do not have an account of Nathaniel and Jane's sorrow over the loss of their little son, but there is an account of the death of little Thomas Payne just two weeks prior to Willie's death. Thomas, a baby, nearly two years of age, "took sick about half way to Utah, and lingered along for two or three weeks and finally died on August 22, 1864, as we were camped at a place called "Bitter Cottonwood." He died a martyr to the cause for want of proper food. He cried for a slice of yeast bread cut from a loaf, which could not be provided. He could not be comforted. He was unable to eat the rough food that was provided the company." That sorrowful day the family stayed behind. "They dressed Thomas's body in a little red dress and sewed him up in a sheet, there being no material available with which to make a coffin. The body was placed in a grave, with the end gate of a wagon box laid over it to protect it as much as possible; another mound to mark the way to Zion" (Payne, 1974). Was William's a lingering sickness? Was he also sewed in a sheet? Did the little Spens family linger behind on September 4th? While Nathaniel dug the grave did Mrs. Payne, great with her next child (and Ann Price who also buried a little boy on the trail), linger behind with Jane to comfort her? And did those two women then take Isabella by the hand while Nathaniel comforted Jane? On September 20, 1864 the company entered the valley, and Nathaniel and Jane, like thousands of other Saints, had paid a price in answering the call to gather to Zion. Nathaniel would later learn that back in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne on December 20, 1864 his sister, Sarah, lost her six-year-old daughter, Isabella Irvine Douse, to acute hydrocephalus. While Nathaniel's and Jane's grief was tempered by the gospel plan, Sarah's sorrow cut deep into her soul.
American Fork, Utah. At the time of this writing it is speculative as to where Nathaniel Spens lived; however, it is thought that he settled with his wife and daughter in American Fork soon after his arrival in Salt Lake City. We can imagine the joyful reunion for Jane Ann and her sister Mary Ann Burnhope Wallace. Little Isabella met her cousin Annie. Aunt Mary Ann's sorrow over the recent death of Jane Ann's little Willie was genuine and brought fresh memories of her little Thomas, born 24 October 1862 and buried 22 May 1864 in American Fork. The Wallaces probably took Nathaniel and Jane Ann to visit their Thomas's little grave and shared the following poem which was penned by Thomas Michael Wallace 22 May 1864: "This evening at sundown died my son, Thomas. He was a lovely, mild, and affectionate boy. He has gone to the land of repose, No sorrow nor sin there annoys. But here we must mourn over the loss Of our lovely, affectionate boy. Farewell for a while, brightest gem. Thou wilt shine in thy newly won life. We will join thee in years yet to come When we've valiantly finished the strife." The following spring, 1865, Mary Ann and Jane Ann were both with child. On 10 March 1865, Mary Ann gave birth to a daughter, Elizabeth. A few weeks later, on 28 April 1865, not even a year after Nathaniel and Jane arrived in Utah, Jane Ann Burnhope Spens died and was buried on the second of May, probably laid to rest beside Mary Ann's baby, Thomas. The new sorrow and loss Nathaniel and little Isabella felt were tempered by the hope of meeting beyond the veil, and were not reasons to berate God or his new religion. Death was not new to Nathaniel; he had lost his own mother at the age of thirteen and many of his brothers and sisters had died young. It seems that his mother, Isabella Irvine Spens, was a carrier for hemophilia as was his sister, Sarah. It is suspected that Mary Ann helped with little Isabella following Jane Ann's death. Mary Ann probably wrote her parents the sad news of Willie's and Jane's death. Some four years later, Isaac and Elizabeth Burnhope may have watched for a particular little mound near the Sweetwater Bridge that marked their grandson?s mortal existence. (The Burnhopes provided their own passage fare and sailed June 4, 1868 on the "John Bright," with two children, Thomas, 23, and Betsey, 20. Isaac was 57 years old at the time, occupation, slate layer, and his wife, Elizabeth was 59. "Crossing the Ocean.")

MARRIAGE:
1. One Ord. Index entry of 1989 in Provo shows marriage as 4 Sep 1861 at St. John, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England. Appears correct; verify against LDS pioneer trail records.

DEATH:
1. See note cited above on brother-in-law's membership record.

2. Biography notes death date of 2 May.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Family group sheet submitted by Josephine H. Bird, 404 Cedar St., Mt. Vernon, Washington. She then lived in Orem, Utah. She cites personal records and autobiographies of Elizabeth Charlton Wallace Hickenlooper and Mary Ann Burnhope Wallace. 
Burnhope, Jane Ann (I6)
 
4818 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In Peter Eller's probate of 1799, there is a John Eller mentioned who could possibly be this individual (his brother) or possibly Peter's son John: FHL book 929.273 P684pn: "Graybill/Stoker/Eller/Smith/Koons/Pitt Connections," by Norman E. 'Gene' Pitt, 1996, pp. 119-123:
"An accounting of the sale of Peter Eller's personal estate after his death follows: The personal estate of Peter Eller was sold and an accounting reported to the Nov 1799 court of Wilkes Co., NC by John Eller, Adr. The property, 111 individual sales, consisted of household utensils and furniture, farm yard tools, and accessories, including one tomahawk, ten sheep, fifteen head of cattle, among which were a yoke of yearlings and one yearling bull, hogs, geese, beehives, etc. The widow took a good deal of the furniture and household accessories including interestingly enough a trumpet which indicates that the early Ellers possessed musical interest. Other items taken by her were one lot of books, a chest, five head of hogs, four cows, one mare colt, two sheep, oven hammer and anvil and a pair of saddle bags. Other purchasers were John Eller, Michael Bumgardner, Leonard Bumgardner, John Dick, Leonard Pfouts, Jacob Huntsinger, Daniel Dickson, James Dickson, James Cash, William Cash, Henry Michael Sr., Henry Michael Jr., Danien Michael, Thomas Baker, Alexander Smith who purchased the tomahawk and some of the farm animals and other items, David Smith, Frederick Younce, Christian Shear, Abraham Shear, Coonrod Coldiron, David Ingram, Balsar Raimer, Conrat Grub, William Colward, George Miller, John Calloway, Allen Nowlin, John Holman and John Tirey. The amount of the sale, including the items taken by the widow, totaled 300 pounds, 18 shillings, 7 pence. (Will Book 1, pp. 540-41, Wilkes Co., NC)."

2. There is a John Eller mentioned with Michael Stoker as chain carriers in the survey of some land in Wilkes Co., NC granted to Conrad Dick and later sold to Peter Eller. They are listed as neighbors. John may be this individual or Peter's brother John Eller.

3. Censuses:
1800 US: Ashe County, North Carolina. The total population for Ashe County, North Carolina in 1800 was 2785, including slaves. The 1800 Ashe County Census was the first for the northwestern most county in the Tar Heel State. This county was formed in late 1799 and included all of Wilkes County west of the crest of the Blue Ridge Mountain. The 977 square miles that then composed Ashe County has been further divided, first in 1849 to form Watauga County, North Carolina and again 10 years later to form Alleghany County. This record includes families who may have been living in those areas at the time. The original census was in rough alphabetic order, and this does not facilitate the research of particular communities. I include all interrelated families of this time and place to better show relationships. A word of explanation on some of these families:
A. Mary and Barbara Burkett who married Peter and David Graybeal, had a father named Christian - unsure as to which is correct of the two.
B. Elizabeth Eller appears to be Elizabeth Dick, the wife of Peter Eller who had just died per his probate of 1799.The one daughter is probably Mary; unsure who the two boys are since there should be three: Jacob, Henry, and George. John Eller would be Elizabeth's eldest son and married to Susannah Kerns.
C. Henry Graybeal would have recently married Celia Henson and also the eldest son of [John] Peter and Christina [Wampler] Graybill who also appear to be in this same census. Note that Peter evidently had owned slaves at that time - the census does not say how many.
D. One of the William Hensons could be somehow related to William Henson who marries Nancy Graybill and to Celia Henson who marries Henry Graybeal.
E. The two Koons are probably brothers and are sons of Devault Koon judging from their ages. This would make them uncles to George Koons who eventually marries Mary Eller.
F. James Lewis, b. abt. 1790, marries Christena Graybill in 1807 - there may be a connection with these two James Lewis.
G. William Pennington marries Barbara (or Elizabeth) Eller and may be the younger of the two here listed.
H. Michael Stucker is a misspelling for Michael and Catherine Eller Stoker with their three oldest children: Polly, David, and Elizabeth.
Head of Family; Males 0-9, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45, 45+; Females - 0-9, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45, 45+:
Burkett, Christian; 1-2-0-1-0; 1-0-2-0-0
Burkett, Christian; 4-1-0-1-0; 1-0-1-0-0
Eller, Elizabeth; 1-0-1-0-0; 0-0-1-0-1
Eller, John; 3-0-0-1-0; 1-0-0-1-0
Graybeal, Henry; 0-0-1-0-0; 2-0-1-0-0
Graybeal, Peter; 2-1-1-0-1; 3-1-0-0-1
Henson, William; 0-1-1-0-0; 2-0-1-0-0
Henson, William; 3-0-0-0-1; 1-1-1-0-0
Koons, George; 0-0-1-0-1; 0-0-0-0-1
Koons, John; 0-0-1-0-1; 0-1-2-0-1
Lewis, James; 2-2-1-0-1; 4-1-0-0-1
Lewis, James, Jr.; 1-0-1-0-0; 1-0-1-0-0
Pennington, William; 0-1-0-1-0; 1-2-1-0-1
Pennington, William; 0-0-1-0-0; 0-0-1-0-0
Stucker, Michael; 1-0-0-1-0; 2-0-0-1-0

1810 US: Ashe County, North Carolina; I include several related families in my database for this time and place. Some notes:
A. One of the two William Penningtons is married to an Eller - I assume it is the one with a younger wife.
B. One of the two Christian Burketts is probably the parent of Barbara and Mary who married Graybeal brothers.
C. James Lewis married Christina Graybill.
D. The older Peter Graybill would be John Peter and Christina Wampler Graybill. The other Peter and Henry would be their sons.
E. Adam Wilker could be Adam Welker, father of James Welker who later marries Elizabeth Stoker.
F. Surprisingly there is no Michael Stoker who should be there unless in adjoining county.
G. One of the two George Koons should be the George Koons of this database.
H. Not sure why two J. Ellers unless the transcriber inadvertently named the "J." as both Jacob when in fact the older one is John. Peter Eller would be a brother.
I. The older Peter Graybill would be John Peter Graybill, father of the other two Graybills: Henry and Peter [Jr.].
Head of Family; Males 0-9, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45, 45+; Females - 0-9, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45, 45+; Slaves:
Pennington, W. (William); 1-0-1-0-0; 2-0-1-0-0
Bourket C. (Christian); 2-2-2-0-1; 5-1-1-1-0
Wilker, A. (Adam); 0-1-2-0-1; 0-1-0-0-1
Graybill, H. (Henry); 3-0-0-1-0; 2-0-1-0-0
Lewis, J. (James); 1-0-1-0-0; 1-0-1-0-0
Graybill, P. (Peter); 0-1-0-1-0; 0-1-0-0-1
Graybeal, P. (Peter); 1-0-1-0-0; 1-0-1-0-0
Graybill, H.; 2-0-1-0-0; 3-0-0-1-0
Koons, G. (George); 2-0-0-1-0; 2-0-0-1-0
Pennington, W. (Wm); 2-0-1-0-0; 2-0-0-0-1
Eller, P. (Peter); 3-0-0-1-0; 2-0-0-1-0
Eller, J. (Jacob); 2-3-1-0-0; 2-0-0-1-0
Burket, C. (Christian); 4-1-0-0-1; 0-1-0-0-1
Koontz, G. (George); 1-0-0-1-0; 2-0-1-0-1; 3
Eller, J. (Jacob [John?]); 2-0-0-1-0; 1-0-1-0-0

1810 US (Variant): Carolina, Rowan, North Carolina, p. 14 of 33:
John Ellor Sen'r, males: 1-1-1-0-1, females: 2-2-0-0-1.

1820 US: Wilkes Co., NC, p. 29 of 57:
John Eller, males: 1@10-16, 1@16-18; 2@16-26, 1@45+; females: 1 under 10, 1@10-16, 1@16-26, 1@45+.

4. FHL Book 929.273EL54h "George Michael Eller and Descendants of His in America," compiled by James W. Hook, 1957, also on FHL film 896571, item 2, pp. 17-31, clarifies early North Carolina counties and land grant practices:
"Land grants in North Carolina originated with an entry application which was filed in the county where the land was situated and if not lost are now on file there. This was followed, sometimes soon and sometimes years later by an order from the land office for the tract to be surveyed. Sometimes soon and sometimes years later the survey was made and a surveyor's plat filed with the Secretary of State in Raleigh. Then came the grant which may have been issued reasonably near the date of the survey or sometimes several years later. These grants, orders to survey and the survey itself are on file now in the Secretary of State's office at Raleigh...
Many counties were formed from what originally was Rowan County, namely Surry and Guilford in 1770, Burke and Wilkes in 1777, Randolph in 1779, Iridell in 1788, Stokes in 1789, Buncomb in 1791, Ashe in1799, Davidson in 1822, Yancey in 1833, Davie in 1836 and Yadkin in 1850. Some of these counties were grandchildren of Rowan County; for instance Wilkes was taken partly from Burke and partly from Surry, Randolph from Guilford, Buncomb and Yancy form Burke, Ashe from Wilkes and Stokes and Yadkin from Surry. These facts must be kept in mind when tracing early Rowan County families."

5. FHL book 929.273 P684pn: "Graybill/Stoker/Eller/Smith/Koons/Pitt Connections," by Norman E. 'Gene' Pitt, 1996, pp. 119-123:
"John Eller, b. abt 1767/9, probably in Frederick Co., MD; d. 1823, Wilkes Co., NC; bur. in the Robert Cleveland Burial Ground abt a mile beyond the New Hope Cemetery on the road to Parsonsville (there is no marker on his grave); md. abt 5 Nov 1792, Rowan Co., NC to Susanna(h) Kern(s). She was b. abt 1765/6, possibly in Guilford Co., NC; d. 10 Apr 1853; bur. in New Hope Cemetery, Parlears (northwest of North Wilkesboro), NC. Evidently, they moved from Ashe Co., NC to Wilkes Co., NC in 1816. They appeared to be large landowners. Their children were Simeon, David, John Jr., Rachel, Absolom, Peter, Delilah Gazia and Mary 'Polly'."

6. The book "The Howard Leytham Stoker Von Dollen Family Histories," FHL 929.273 H833a, by Doris Lewis, 2017 So. 80th Ave., Omaha, Nebraska, 68124, p. 89:
"Peter was the first son of George Michael Eller. Because there were a number of years between Peter's birth and the others, the question arises if he might not be a child of a first marriage. He grew up in North Carolina and married Elizabeth Dick in 1766. His land grant was close to other Ellers, beginning at the spruce pine on the Upper Ford on Rones Creek. In 1797 he bought the 70 acres which had been granted to his father-in-law, Conrad Dick. This land had been surveyed and chain carriers were listed as Michael Stoker and John Eller, neighbors. Peter had 470 acres at his death... There oldest daughter, Catherine, married Michael Stoker and their youngest daughter, Mary, married George Koons and their great granddaughter, Betty Oman married Orson Hyde Stoker. Children:
a. John, b. 1767 or 1769; d. 1823; m. Susanna Kerns.
b. Catherine, b. 6 Mar 1773 at Rowan Co., NC; d. 1850 at Council Bluffs, Iowa; m. Michael Stoker.
c. Elizabeth, b. 1780; m. William Pennington.
d. Barbara, b. 1782; m. Pertune.
e. Mary, b. 1783, NC; d. 1872; m. George Koons (a Quaker who was disowned for marrying Mary, who was a Dunkard). She was 18 and he 19.
f. Jacob, b. 1784; d. 1855; m. Catherine White.
g. Henry, b. 1788; d. 1876; m. Elizabeth Johnson.
h. George."

7. The book "The Howard Leytham Stoker Von Dollen Family Histories," FHL 929.273 H833a, by Doris Lewis, 2017 So. 80th Ave., Omaha, Nebraska, 68124, pp. 102-105, mentions John Eller as the father of David Eller who married Tabitha Judd, sister to Margaret Judd who married Eller Stoker. Tabitha and David Eller were baptized by Michael Stoker in 1836 per Michael's journal [see his notes]:
"Margaret's parents are given on the following page. John Judd was the son of Nathaniel and Elizabeth Judd. I do not know his mother's maiden name nor the names of the other children in the family. Nathaniel was in Pittsylvania, Virginia, with his brother, Rowland Judd, in 1767. In 1771, the brothers were in Surry County, North Carolina, later to be Wilkes County. All land in North Carolina had to be registered in 1778 and records show Nathaniel and Towland on land by the Reddies River in Wilkes County. The Judds were respected in their community and were listed frequently on early Wilkes County records. Rowland was the tax assessor and the overseer to build the road from Deep Ford Hill to the top of the Blue Ridge Mountains. John Judd was appointed a County Justice in 1816. Perhaps John intended to go back some day to North Carolina, for his farm, consisting of 790 acres, was not sold until after his death in Wayne County, Indiana, in 1838. Judge Johnson Hayes, a U.S. District Judge and the author of the 'The Land of Wilkes,' now lives on the old John Judd farm. Rhoda Shepherd was born on a farm in Wilkes County soon after her family had moved from Virginia. She married neighbor John Judd, and they raised their eight children in Wilkes County. They went west in 1827 or 8, settling first in Ohio, where they became members of the Latter Days Saints Church, then on to Wayne County, Indiana, where John died. Rhoda was living on the Des Moines River in Iowa, when her daughter Margaret, married Eller Stoker in 1839. Margaret and Eller had a widowed mother living with them a few years later in Illinois, and it may have been Rhoda. Children:
a. Elizabeth Judd, b. 1802; m. William Welch.
b. Tabitha Judd, b. 1803; m. David Eller, son of John Eller, brother to Catherine and Mary Eller.
c. Allen Judd, b. 1810; m. Hester Burns.
d. Sarah Judd, b. 1813; m. Thomas Oler.
e. Thomas Judd, b. 1815; m. Margaret Oler.
f. Mary Judd, b. 1817; m. Alvin Winegar.
g. Margaret Judd, b. May 29, 1822; m. Eller Stoker.
h. John Judd, Jr., b. 1824.
[Note that the book also contains more information on Rhoda Shepherd's ancestry.]"

8. Burketts, Graybeals, and Ellers mentioned in the book "History of Western North Carolina," by John Preston Arthur, 1914, chapter 8:
"Some Early Settlers of Ashe. These noble, self-sacrificing men and women of the early times endangered their lives and braved many hardships in the wild Indian country to open the way to happy homes, schools, churches and the blessings of our present civilization. Some of these were Henry Poe, Martin Gambill, Thomas Sutherland, Timothy Perkins, Captain John Cox, Henry Hardin, Canada Richardson, James Douglas, Daniel Dickson and Elijah Galloway. Besides these were many others whose names awaken much unwritten history: Miller, Blevins, Ham, Reeves, Woodin, Barr, Baker, Eller, Goodman, Ray, Burkett, Graybeal, Houck, Kilby, Ashley, Jones, Gentry, Smith, Plummer, Lewis, Sutherland, McMillan, Colvard, Barker, Senter, Maxwell, Calhoun, Sapp, Thomas, Worth, Oliver and others."
Another reference to Ellers: "Jacob, Henry, and John Eller. They were sons of Christian Eller, once a resident of the Jersey Settlement in Davidson County. The two former came to Ashe and settled on the North Fork of New River, reared large families, and were successful, useful, respected citizens. Their sons were Peter, Luke, William, John, David and Jacob. John settled on the South Fork and later moved to Wilkes. His sons were Simeon, David, Absalom, John and Peter, who reared large families which are scattered over Western North Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, Iowa and Nebraska. (From information furnished by Hon. A. H. Eller, 1912.)" [Kerry's note: the part of these three Ellers being sons of Christian Eller is incorrect.]

9. Land transaction and proximity mentioned in biography of Henry Eller, son of Peter Eller and Elizabeth Dick per FHL Book 929.273EL54h "George Michael Eller and Descendants of His in America," compiled by James W. Hook, 1957, also on FHL film 896571, item 2, pp. 172-176:
"Henry Eller, b. 1786/1788; family records said he died about 1876 at the age of more than 90 years. The 1850, 1860, and 1870 censuses of Ashe Co. give his age as 62, 72 and 80 respectively. These records indicate a birth year of 1786/88 and a death year of 1876. He married, about 1812/1813, Elizabeth Johnson, b. according to the 1850 census of Ashe Co., NC, in 1791/92, her age being given as 58 years. The 1860 and 1870 censuses give her age as 68 and 80 respectively. She was born in Iridel Co., NC. Henry Eller entered 250 acres of land on the North Fork of New River, 16 July 1812. This land was surveyed 8 Sep 1813 and granted to him 23 Dec 1813. (Grant 840, Secy. of State's Office, Raleigh, NC.) The land was on the north side of 'feneck' (Phoenix) Mountain and bordered the 150 acre farm surveyed to Michael Stucker (Stokard, Stoker). The survey, dated 8 Sep 1813, was attested by Peter and Jacob Eller. Henry Eller figured in several land transactions in Ashe County after 1812. In one, dated 9 Dec 1819, he purchased 90 acres of land from George Koons for $150.00. This land was in Ashe County on the south side of the North Fork of New River 'to my south line and down to the conditional line made between Abraham May and John Dick Jr. against the mouth of Piney Creek being part of the 150 acre tract where Thomas Brooks Mill formerly stood.' George Koons, doubtless, was Henry's brother-in-law, the husband of Mary Eller, shown in... herein [see notes in this database for George Koons and Mary Eller]. The sale was made about the time that George and Mary Koons left North Carolina for their new home in Henry County, Ind. Mary Koons' name does not appear in the deed but this is not strange because the dower rights of wives were often not mentioned in early deeds of Ashe and Wilkes Counties. Later deeds indicate that Henry Eller's farm in 1845 consisted of 240 acres.
The records show that Henry Eller's brother-in-law, Michael Stoker (Stokard, Stucker) as well as his brother-in-law, George Koons, lived on farms adjoining his on the North Fork of New River. His brothers, Peter and Jacob, lived nearby while his brother John lived on the south fork of New River near where Peter Eller Sr., their father, late deceased, lived. About 1816 John and Peter moved to lower altitudes in Wilkes County, John to Lewis Fork Creek west of Wilkesboro on a farm of 451 acres and Peter to a farm on Ceroles Creek."

10. FHL Book 929.273EL54h "George Michael Eller and Descendants of His in America," compiled by James W. Hook, 1957, also on FHL film 896571, item 2, pp. 69-87:
"John Eller was born probably in Frederick Co., Maryland, about 1767/9 and died in Wilkes Co., North Carolina in 1823. He married, license issued in Rowan Co., NC, 5 Nov 1792, Susannah Kerns (Kern), who was born in 1765/66 and died, according to her gravestone in New Hope Cemetery, N.W. of North Wilkesboro, NC, 10 Apr. 1853, aged 87. Since her first child was named Simeon, it can be inferred that her father was of the same name and perhaps the Simeon Kern of Rowan Co., NC, mentioned in Vol. 3, No. 3, Nat'l. Gen. Society, pp. 14-22, and he, in turn, could have been related to Simon Kern of Frederick Co., MD found first in the records of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of that county 31 Oct 1746 when, with others, he was called one of the 'Brethren which built the church in the mountains and in the new town, Frederick Town' and his loyalty to the church attested to. (Pp. 489, 490 of the church records at the Maryland Hist. Society in Baltimore, MD.) Simon Kern m. 5 Apr 1749 Christina Hoffin (Hoffner) and recorded in the church records the birth of a son Johan Jacob on 27 Nov 1754 and of a dau. Marie Barbara on 28 Feb 1758. (Evangelical Lutheran Church Record, pp. 368, 38, 52.) Simon Kern died in 1761. His administration Bond shows that the administration of his estate was given 25 Aug. 1761 to Jacob and Christian Hoover and Michael Romod and joseph Nardman as their sureties. (Admin. Accounts, Vol. 38, 1760-62, Hall of Records, Annapolis, MD.) Simon Kern may have been the Joh. Simon Kern, aged 25, who came from Germany to Pennsylvania on the ship 'St. Andrew' and took his oath of allegiance 7 Oct 1743.
Later records of the German Reformed Church and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Frederick County, MD, show other Kern (Karn) family records... [the book details extensively many other Kern records in Frederick Co.; however, he does not specifically link them to North Carolina or to Susannah Kerns.]
Family tradition says that Susannah Kerns, wife of John Eller, was born in Guilford County, NC on a farm located near the Guilford Courthouse battlefield, north of Greensboro but this writer could find no support for this in the records. He did find the will of one John Karn (sic) of Rowan County dated 26 Apr 1794 in which the testator mentioned his sisters Susanna, Esther, Mary and Ann and brothers Daniel and Peter. (Rowan Co., NC Wills.) It could be that this John Karn and his brothers and sisters were children of Simeon Kern of Rowan Co., NC, and that the Susanna mentioned in the will was the one who married John Eller but there is no proof.
There was one or more Kern (Kerns, Keehn) families in Rowan County prior to 1800. Leonard Kern and Peter Keehn appear on the Rowan County, NC, list of taxables in 1759. ('The Rowan Story,' by James S. Brawley, p. 354.) A Rowan Co. deed dated 6 Feb 1762 shows Conrad Kern to be the attorney and heir of Conrad Michael. (Deed Book 7, p. 394.) Another deed in Rowan Co., dated 5 Feb 1777 shows Conrad Kern and John Kerns as being 'nephews of Conrad Michael, late of the German Empire.' (Deed Book 8, p. 550.)
The first record of John Eller found by this writer was his marriage license, issued in Rowan County, NC, 5 Nov 1792. The fact that it was issued in Rowan Co. indicates that his fiancé, Susanna Kerns, was then a resident of that county. According to her gravestone in the New Hope Baptist Church burial ground located about six miles north and west of North Wilkesboro, NC near Rendezvous Mountain, she died 10 April 1853, aged 87 years. This would make her birth year 1765 or 1766. Her husband John Eller was buried in the Robert Cleveland burial ground about a mile beyond on the road to Parsonsville. There is no marker at his grave. After the death of his wife plans were laid by his family to place his remains beside hers in the New Hope cemetery but old residents in the vicinity declare that this was never done.
John Eller doubtless lived with his father on Reedy Creek in Rowan County until the latter removed to his Rones Creek farm in what was then Wilkes but after 1799, Ashe Co. The surmise is that he was not living with his father when the 1790 census was taken and did not settle in or near his father's farm on Rones Creek until after his marriage. His first son Simeon was born in Wilkes Co. 7 Sep 1794 and on 27 Oct 1795 he witnessed the deed by which his father, Peter Eller, conveyed 200 acres of land on Rones Creek to Gabriel Barn. (Deed Book B-1, p. 466, Wilkes Co., NC) On 13 April 1795 he and Michael Stuckers (Stoker) helped to survey 70 acres of land on Rones Creek for Conrad Dick, his grandfather probably.
On 27 Dec 1797 fifty acres of land on the east bank of the south fork of New River at Johnson's Corner and running south up the river 20 poles to said Eller's old corner etc. was granted to John Eller (Grant No. 1528, Secy. of State's office, Raleigh, NC).
On 29 July 1799 Betsey and John Eller made application to the Court of Pleas of Wilkes County for Administration on the Estate of Peter Eller, deceased. They gave John Bowers and John Koons for security, these two being bound in the sum of 800 pounds and qualified as the law required. Betsey Eller, doubtless was the deceased's widow and mother of John Eller. Late in 1799 Ashe County was formed out of Wilkes County.
The 1800 Federal Census of Ashe County, NC shows John Eller, aged between 26 and 45 with wife of same age and with one female and two male children all under 10.
The 1810 census shows John Eller and wife each under 45 indicating that neither was born earlier than 1765 and with one male 16-26, three females 10-16, and two males under 10.
The 1820 Federal Census of Wilkes County show John Eller and wife both over 45 with two males, aged between 18-26, one female aged between 16-26, one male 16-18, one male 10-16, one female 10-16 and one female under 10.
If the above three censuses are correct then both John Eller and his wife Susannah were born between 1765 and 1774.
The land records of Ashe County reveal the following purchases and sales of land by John Eller; probably not a complete list.
29 Jan 1802 John Eller purchased 200 acres on Obids Creek from Joel Gibson paying 185 pounds for same. (Deed Book A, p. 213)
9 Mar 1802, John Eller sold this same land to David Hank receiving 300 pounds for same. (Deed Book B., p. 447.)
7 Aug 1804, John Eller sold to Christian Burkard 290 acres of land in Ashe County on Ha's Creek, a branch of the south fork of New River, receiving 500 dollars for same. (Book B, p. 177.)
11 Nov 1806, John Eller purchased from Alexander Smith about 250 acres of land on the 'North side of a ridge that divides the Silarey Branch form the River Branch' paying 200 dollars for same. (Deed Book D, p. 519.)
17 Sep 1816 and 11 Feb 1817 John Eller joined other heirs of Peter Eller, deceased, in selling land that formerly belonged to the said Peter Eller.
The home of John Eller in Ashe County, according to the writer's uncle, the late Reverend William H. Eller, was located on the east side of the south branch of New River where the bridge on the main road from North Wilkesboro to Jefferson now crosses. In his time there was no bridge but only a ford. The Eller domicile was about 100 yards east of the ford and for many years after the occupants vacated it, it was marked by an old stone chimney and the remains of an apple orchard that once belonged to the Eller farm.
John Eller, seeking relief from rheumatism, removed to the lower altitude of Wilkes County in 1816 when, on March 11 of that year, he purchased from Thomas Fletcher three parcels of land on the north fork of Lewis Fork Creek beginning at Col. Cleveland's old corner and running to a dividing line between Robert Cleveland and John Cleveland, then along several courses of Benjamin Cleveland's old line etc., one of said tracts adjoining the line of Nathaniel Vannoy's land, the three tracts together containing 451 acres. (Deed Book K, p. 267, Wilkes Co., NC) Here he lived until his death in 1823. He was buried in the family cemetery of Robert Cleveland on the road from Parlears to Parsonsville. His five sons also settled nearby and this writer in October 1954, was shown their farms all located north west of Parlears, NC on the winding road to Parsonsville.
A precious memento of the John Eller household is the family bible in which is recorded the birth dates of all but the youngest child Mary of his family. It also records the birth of Simeon Bumgarner on 8 Jan 1808. It was printed in the German language at Halle, Germany in 1770. It may be the same Bible that George Michael Eller, John's grandfather, willed to his son Jacob because on page 17 is written the words 'Jacob Eller his Bible.' There is also written on page 15 of the Vorrede, or preface, the words 'The holey Bible of Peter Eller.' (See George Michael Eller's Will.) Of course these bits of writing, all in English, could have been placed there by later members of the family. The Bible is now owned by Mr. Wade Eller of Warrensville, Ashe County, NC, son of Jacob Eller (David, Jacob, Peter, George Michael). Regretfully it records nothing about John Eller or his wife. The Simeon Bumgardner whose birth on 8 Jan 1808 is recorded in the old Bible very probably was a son of a sister of John Eller who had married, probably, James Bumgarner. Proof of this however has not been definitely established.
The children of John Eller and his wife Susannah Kerns were:
a. Simeon Eller, b. in what is now Ashe Co., NC, 8 Sep 1794; d. in Wilkes Co., NC, 19 Jun 1850. He m., license issued in Wilkes Co. 16 Apr 1817 Fanny McNiel, b. 12 Jan 1799; d. 4 Oct 1856. She was a dau. of James McNiel, ([grandfather] Rev George). Both lie buried in the New Hope Baptist Church yard on the road from Parlears to Parsonville in Wilkes Co. [The book has extensive biographies on the descendants of this couple.]
b. David Eller, b. 11 Apr 1796; d. 18 Mar 1870. He was twice married firstly, 18 Oct 1819, to Tabitha Judd, b. 27 Jun 1803; d. 27 Mar 1847; and secondly, 27 Feb 1848, to Mrs. Mary A. Lyons, b. 19 Dec 1822 whose children by her first husband were Alhora (Elvira) and David. He removed first, in 1828, to Wayne County, Indiana and from there, about 1838, or 1839, to Jefferson Co., Iowa where he lived as a farmer until his death. [The book has extensive biographies on the descendants of this couple.]
c. John Eller Jr., b. 17 Mar 1798; m., license issued in Wilkes Co., NC, 20 Apr 1820, Elizabeth Ray Vannoy, b. 29 Oct 1804; d. 24 Aug 1868. She was a dau. of Jesse Vannoy and his wife Mrs. Mary Shepherd, born Mary Kilby, dau. of William Kilby and his wife Mary Ann Todds. Family lived on Lewis Fork Creek in Wilkes Co., NC. [The book has extensive biographies on the descendants of this couple.]
d. Rachel Eller, b. 12 Apr 1800; d. 26 Dec 1850, (Bible record, gravestone says b. 20 Jan 1801) m. 22 Aug 1820, license dated 19 Aug 1820, in Wilkes Co., John McNiel, b. 30 Jan 1796; d. 21 Jan 1877. [The book has extensive biographies on the descendants of this couple and also of the McNiel family.]
e. Absalom Eller, b. 17 Feb 1803, d. 7 Feb 1879; m. 1 Mar 1824, license dated 28 Feb 1824 in Wilkes Co., Sally Reynolds, b. 16 Feb 1805; d. 6 Mar 1875. The farm of Absolom and Sally Eller was located on Parlears Creek, Wilkes Co. NC. [The book has extensive biographies on the descendants of this couple.]
f. Peter Eller, b. 17 Mar 1805; d. 7 Nov 1872; m. 1st Fanny Yates. She was a dau. of John Yates and his wife Elizabeth Cleveland, the latter b. 15 Jul 1783, dau. of Robert Cleveland. He m. 2nd, 16 Nov 1863, Louisa Church, b. 1835/6. Peter Eller was a prominent man in early Wilkes County. He served two terms in the NC Legislature and was a member of the NC Constitutional Assembly. He and his brother Simeon established the old Academy in Wilkesboro, one of the first schools of higher education in Western North Carolina. He was chosen Colonel of the Wilkes Co. Militia and served in that capacity for many years. His brother Simeon was chosen Captain at the same time. He was a member and chairman of the first board of superintendents of free public schools in Wilkes County. He was a brilliant student and interested in all public affairs particularly those pertaining to public schools. Susan (Susanna) Eller, aged 85, his mother doubtless, was living with him in 1850, acording to the Federal Census of that year. [The book has extensive biographies on the descendants of this couple.]
g. Delilah Gazia Eller, b. 15 Feb 1808; m. 30 Oct 1829, Richard Saunders. [Children follow in the book.]
h. Mary (called Polly) Eller, b. 1810; m. Alexander Church, a Baptist Minister. [The book has biographies on the descendants of this couple.]"

11. Ancestry.com's "The Kern Family of Rowan County, NC, Nicholas, KY, Indiana, Iowa," p. 26, in talking of the disposal of the estate on 29 Apr 1793 of Martin Riblin:
"Purchasers of items included many well-known names in the Rowan German community such as the "widow" Ribley, Harmon Butner, John Eller (John Kern's son-in-law), George Smith, Peter Ribley, Peter Brown.)

12. Index of miscellaneous deeds from the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT. I am not sure of the relationship, if any, of all the parties herein listed and this is for reference only:
"Some Frederick County Maryland Deeds:
E-125 Joseph Grable to Jacob Funk, March 20, 1753
E-509 Joseph Grable to Jacob Funk, August 21, 1754 Agreement
F-244 Joseph Grable to Jacob Funk, May 28, 1757
F-393 Joseph Grable from James ___, February 11, 1758
K-782 Joseph Grable to Jacob Roland, November 19, 1766
K-782 Samuel Grable from Leonard White, November 14, 1766
K-743 Joseph Grable to Jacob Funk - Release
K-803 Martin Garver from Jacob Danner, December 19, 1766
K-1284 Henry Eller to Jacob Flora, June 6, 1767
L-515 John Garver from Jacob Danner, October 1, 1768
N-396 Leonard Kitzmiller from Samuel Stringer, October 10, 1770
N-505 Peter Wampler from Richard Coroxal, December 15, 1770
S-96 George Michael Eller from Edward Gaither
O-3 Henry Eller to David Buzzard, January 14, 1771
L-665 John Grable to Jacob Roland, May 1772
P-128 Henry Eller from Leonard Kitzmiller, June 13, 1772
P-110 Leonard Kitzmiller to Samuel Carver, June 13, 1772
BD1-539 John Garver to Jacob Danner, May 22, 1775- did not find
BD6-34 John Grabill to Jacob Danner, June 20, 1775
WR-2-543 Peter Grable to Michael Christ, May 26, 1779
WR-3-71 John Grabell to Wm. Renner, July 27, 1782
GM2-444 Peter Wampler, 1782
WR-4-98 Peter Grable to Michael Christ, May 26, 1779
WR-6-4 Henry Eller to Philip Fishburn, June 22, 1784
WR-6-84 Henry Eller to Francis B. Sappington, August 19, 1784
WR-3-205 John Grable from John Bowman, Bill of Sale
WR-7-332 John Grable and others to George Kitzburger, June 12, 1787
WR-7-616 John Grable to Paul Clapsdale, December 4, 1787
WR-8-505 John Grable from John Shuk, June 8, 1789 Bill of Sale
WR-9-194 John Grable from Sam Cole, April 30, 1790
WR-9-250 John Grable from Joseph Boyer, June 1, 1790
WR-9-46 Peter Grable from Martin Sheets, July 8, 1790
WR-9-546 Peter Grable from Henry Repp, December 7, 1790
WR-11-279 John Garber and others, September 24, 1791, Agreement
WR-11-210 John Wampler to Lazarus Findburg, November 21, 1792
WR-11-199 Joseph Wampler from Michael Baer, November 19, 1792
WR-11-587 Joseph Eller from Jacob Baer, May 31, 1793
WR 12-41 John Garber, Upton Scott and others, May 9, 1794 Agreement
WR 12-445 John Grable from Balser Riam, June 3, 1794
WR 12-447 John Grable from Balser Riam, June 3, 1794
WR 12-456 John Grable to Christian Ebey, June 6, 1794
WR 12-451 John Grable to Christian Ebey, June 6, 1794
WR 12-535 John Grable from Conrad Cragon, August 14, 1794
WR 12-516 John Grable to Rebecca Reynolds, July 30, 1794
WR 13-153 John Grable to Conrad Hi , March 26, 1795
WR 13-126 Joseph Eller from Frederick Murray, March 24, 1795
WR 13-449 Martin Garber from Richard Cook, August 11, 1795
WR 13-263 Martin Garber from Philip Fishburn, May 6, 1795
WR 15-481 John Grable from Negro Bill, July 5, 1797
WR 15-595 Joseph Eller from John Kerr, September 6, 1797
WR 15-518 Martin Garber from Richard Coal, August 8, 1797
WR 15-519 Joseph Grable from Martin Garber, August 8, 1797
WR 15-395 David Wampler from Joseph Grable, June 8, 1797
WR 17-44 Jacob Grable from Wm. Hardin, May 24, 1798
WR 19-71 David Wampler from Christian Simmons, October 8, 1799
WR 12-245 Peter Wampler from Samuel Chase, March 1794
WR 16-463 John Wampler from Joseph Baker, May 2, 1795
WR 17-302 John Garber from ___ Scott, October 2, 1798
WR 19-247 Joseph Eller from Jacob Young, January 16, 1800
WR 19-250 Joseph Eller to Jacob Pofsbarger, January 17, 1800
WR 19-252 Joseph Eller to Michael Minor Sr., January 17, 1800
WR 19-444 John Wampler to John Iler, April 16, 1800
WR 21-466 John Grable from Christian Leasner, September 17, 1801
WR 21-541 Jacob Garber to Joseph Baker, October 21, 1801
WR 23-227 Martin Carver and others to Samuel Garber, July 29, 1802
WR 23-228 Samuel Garber from Christian Garber and others, July 29, 1802
WR 23-229 Samuel Garber and others to Christian Garber, July 29, 1802
WR 23-231 John Garber from John Wampler, July 29, 1802
WR 23-234 John Wampler to Martin Garber, July 29, 1802
WR 22-548 Moses Grable from Craig Marshall, May 15, 1802
WR 20-41 Martin Garber from Wm. Head, June 21, 1800
WR 20-43 Martin Garber from Peter Kramer, June 28, 1800
WR 22-4 Moses Grable to Michael Freeze, November 3, 1801
WR 25-579 John Garber from Israel Bigler, May 8, 1804
WR 26-71 John Garber from Anna Garber and others, September 5, 1804
WR 27-544 Joseph Grable to Peter Grable, October 10, 1805
WR 39-561 John Grable from Peter Grable, May 22, 1811
WR 42-380 John Grable and others to State of Maryland, May 31, 1813
WR 44-85 John Grable to Louis Mottier, April 5, 1813"

13. FHL book 929.273 D55h "History of Peter and Christina Shutt Dick Family; Frederick Co. Maryland; Wilkes Co. North Carolina; Muhlenberg Co. Kentucky; Sangamon Co. Illinois; Cass Co. Illinois," compiled by Muriel M. Hoffman; Anchor, Illinois; 1970; Chapter II "Ancestry of Peter Dick":
"Elizabeth Dick, daughter of Conrad and Catherine Dick married Peter Eller, son of George Michael Eller, who moved to what is now Ashe County, N. Car. from Frederick County, Md. Their land adjoined that of her father and presumed brother, John. They had at least 8 children:
1. John Eller, b. abt 1767 d. 1823, m. 5 Nov. 1792 Susannah Kerns, who died 10 April 1853 age 87 years.
2. Catherine Eller b. Rowan Co. 6 Mar. 1773 d. aft 1850 m. 1791/2 to Michael Stoker b. Frederick Co. Md. 24 Mar. 1762, d. aft. 1836.
3. Peter Eller b. 1777/8 d. Wilkes Co. 1851; m. Mary Pennington, prob. dau of William whose estate he helped to administer on 2 July, 1812 with a William Jr.
4. Elizabeth Eller probably m. William Pennington
5. Jacob Eller b.1784/88 d. 3 Nov. 1855 (census b.1784) m. abt. 1805 to Katherine White b.1789 d. Jan. 3, 1854
6. Mary Eller b. 1784/88 d. 1872 age 84; m. George Koons (Koontz) b. 1785/6 d. 26 Mar. 1848 age 63 years.
7. Henry Eller b.1786/88 d. Ashe Co. abt 1876 m. 1814 Elizabeth Johnson.
8. George Eller b. aft 1790 d. before 1841."

MARRIAGE:
1. Ancestry.com's "North Carolina Marriage Collection, 1741-2004" for Rowan Co. shows John Eller and Suzana Kerns, md. 5 Nov 1792, per reel 20, p. 2949.

2. Ancestry.com's "The Kern Family of Rowan County, NC, Nicholas, KY, Indiana, Iowa," p. 13: "Records show a Gabriel Kern as bondsman at the marriage of Susanna Kern (daughter of John Kern) to John Eller, Nov. 5, 1792."

BURIAL:
1. From online "Eller Chronicles," website http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~adelr/may92/may92p2.htm: "Wilkes County Cemetery Records, Compiled by George F. McNeil and Joyce McNeil, Route 3, Box 27, Wilkesboro, NC 28697. For the past three years, and I have indulged our strange hobby of locating old cemeteries in Wilkes County (NC) and recording information inscribed on the tombstones. So far, we have found 576 cemeteries in Wilkes County, and have data from more than 36,000 tombstones in our automated database. This includes the cemeteries at all the churches in the county, and many family cemeteries, some of which have been abandoned for many years. We have not recorded information from tombstones in Mountlawn Memorial Park, the large commercial cemetery in North Wilkesboro. It was started in the 1930's, so no real old information would be there. Many Eller entries but only these two are in my database:
Cleveland-Yates Family Cemetery in Stanton Township: John Eller, b. ca 1765/66, d.1823; Parents: Peter Eller and Elizabeth Dick; wife: Susannah Kern md. 5 Nov 1792. (Sources: public records and word of mouth.)
New Hope Baptist Church, Stanton Township: Susannah Eller, row 22, lot 9.0, tombstone: d. 10 Apr 1853 age 87 years, husband: John Eller.

2. Per James Hook as quoted above: "The first record of John Eller found by this writer was his marriage license, issued in Rowan County, NC, 5 Nov 1792. The fact that it was issued in Rowan Co. indicates that his fiancé, Susanna Kerns, was then a resident of that county. According to her gravestone in the New Hope Baptist Church burial ground located about six miles north and west of North Wilkesboro, NC near Rendezvous Mountain, she died 10 April 1853, aged 87 years. This would make her birth year 1765 or 1766. Her husband John Eller was buried in the Robert Cleveland burial ground about a mile beyond on the road to Parsonsville. There is no marker at his grave. After the death of his wife plans were laid by his family to place his remains beside hers in the New Hope cemetery but old residents in the vicinity declare that this was never done."

3. FHL Book 929.273EL54h "George Michael Eller and Descendants of His in America," compiled by James W. Hook, 1957, also on FHL film 896571, item 2, pp. 17-31, in speaking about Peter Eller Sr.'s [b. abt. 1746, d. 1799] estate settlement, the following quotes refer to family members involved with the settlement. Note that sons-in-law William Pennington (wife Barbara or Elizabeth Eller?) and George Koons (Mary's husband) do not show up at the estate sale of 1799 but do show up from 1809 to 1817 when the inherited land of Peter Eller is sold. Of the younger sons, Henry and Jacob appear in the later land heirship land deeds, but they would have been only minors at the estate sale of 1799. George, the youngest son, never shows up which may be indicative of an early death. The older sons- John and Peter - and the eldest daughter - Catherine Eller Stoker thru her husband Michael - show up in both 1799 and the later land deeds. Elizabeth Eller Jr., the unmarried dau. shows up only in the 1799 purchaser list buying household items as if she were preparing for an imminent marriage (see her notes for more detail on her purchases). The open-ended question of who married Elizabeth and who married Barbara is not resolved by these documents except the assurance that William Pennington was definitely a husband of one of them. There is no Bumgardner listed in the later heirship deeds but there are two listed early in the estate purchasers - Michael and Leonard - but if Elizabeth really married a Bumgardner and had a son Simeon in 1807, why is there no listing of a Bumgardner on the heirship deeds. The various quotes are as follows:
"Peter Eller died before 29 July 1799 as evidenced by an entry in an old court record book found by this writer in the courthouse at Wilkesboro, Wilkes Co., NC in October 1954. It reads as follows: 'Betsey Eller and John Eller having made application for Administration on the estate of Peter Eller gave Bowers and John Koons for security who were bound in the sum of 800 pounds and qualified as the law directs.'
Betsey Eller doubtless was Peter's widow and John his eldest son. The time was 1799 when Ashe County was being set off from Wilkes and the year just preceding the one in which the first federal census of Ashe Co. was taken...
Three deeds in the courthouse at Jefferson, Ashe Co., NC record settlement actions on the property of Peter Eller deceased. In brief they are:
1. Deed Book M, p. 163, dated 7 July 1809 shows Peter Eller, Jacob Eller, George Koontz and William Pennington of the county of Ashe in the state of NC, heirs of Peter Eller, deceased, selling to Leonard Fantz 200 acres of land in Ashe Co. the same apparently being the tract Andrew Baker had deeded to Peter Eller 3 Aug 1789. The deed was signed by all the said heirs except William Pennington. Why Pennington did not sign is not clear.
2. Deed Book F, p. 414, dated 17 Sep 1816, shows John Eller, Peter Eller, Jacob Eller, Henry Eller, Michael Stocker (Stoker), George Koontz and William Pennington all of the County of Ashe in the State of NC, heirs of Peter Eller deceased, selling Luke White Sr. 122 acres of land located on the south fork of New River at the mouth of Rones Creek etc. This deed was signed by all the said heirs named as party of the first part in the deed except George Koontz. Why George Koontz did not sign is not clear.
3. Deed Book F, p. 83, dated 11 Feb 1817 shows John Eller, J.A. (Jacob) Eller, Henry Eller, Michael Stocker (Stoker), George Koontz and William Pennington all of the county of Ashe in the state of N.C., heirs of Peter Eller, deceased, selling to Frederick Black, 25 acres of land on the south fork of New River the land being that warranted to Peter Eller, 3 May 1793 and granted to him 27 Dec 1797. All of these heirs signed the deed.
This writer believes that other heirship deeds exist probably of earlier dates and, if found, would show a Bumgardner heir. The above three deeds distributed only 347 acres of Peter Eller's estate when it appears that it consisted at his death of at least 470 acres. The Bumgardner connection is suggested in an ancient family Bible in which the birth dates of seven children of John Eller, eldest son of Peter and Elizabeth (Dick) Eller was recorded. Another birth entry in this old Bible is that of Simeon Bumgardner, born 8 Jan 1807. This child probably was a son of a daughter of Peter and Elizabeth (Dick) Eller who had marred a Bumgardner, probably James Bumgardner.
The old Bible was printed in the German language at Halle, Germany in 1770 and is now in the possession of Mr. Wade E. Eller of Warrensville, Ashe Co., NC. It may be the Bible which George Michael Eller willed to his son Jacob because on page 17 is written 'Jacob Eller his Bible.' On page 15 of the vorrede or preface is also written 'The Holy Bible Peter Eller.' The only information of genealogical value in the Bible are the dates of birth of all but the youngest child, Mary, of John and Susannah (Kerns) Eller… and of Simeon Bumgarner above mentioned.
The personal estate of Peter Eller was sold and an accounting reported to the Nov. 1799 court of Wilkes Co., NC by John Eller, Adr. The property, 111 individual sales, consisted of household utensils and furniture, farm yard tools and accessories, including one tomahawk, ten sheep, fifteen head of cattle, among which were a yoke of yearlings and one yearling bull, hogs, geese, bee hives, etc. The widow took a good deal of the furniture and household accessories including interestingly enough a trumpet which indicates that the early Ellers possessed musical interest. Other items taken by her were one lot of books, a chest, five head of hogs, four cows, one mare colt, two sheep, oven, hammer and anvil, and a pair of saddle bags. Other purchasers were John Eller, Peter Eller, Elizabeth Eller Jr., Michael Stucker (Stoker), Michael Bumgardner, Leonard Bumgardner, John Dick, Leonard Pfouts, Jacob Huntsinger, Daniel Dickson, James Dickson, James Cash, William Cash, Henry Michael Sr., Henry Michael Jr., Daniel Michael, Thomas Baker, Alexander Smith who purchased the tomahawk and some of the farm animals and other items, David Smith, Frederick Younce, Christian Shear, Abraham Shear, Coonrod Coldiron, David Ingram, Balsar Raime, Conrat Grub, William Colward, George Miller, John Calloway, Allen Nowlin, John Holman and John Tirey. The amount of the sale, including the items taken by the widow totaled 300 pounds, 18 shillings, 7 pence. (Will Book 1, pp. 540-41, Wilkes Co., NC.)" 
Eller, John (I1370)
 
4819 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In progress research and theories:
A. Various comments, factoids, and leads I have found to follow for research:
-The publication "The Visitation of the County or Kent, taken in 1619," by Phlipott at website http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/006%20-%201866/006-13.pdf accessed 24 May 2017, pp. 260-69, gives the lineage and arms of the gentry family of Godfrey, one of the ancient families of Lydd. Included with the visitation are wills, church records. and other records of this family. Of interest is the daughter Catherine of Peter Godfrey and Joan Epes. The lineage chart indicates: "Katherina ux : Johis Berry de Lyd [bo. 1542 ; ob. 1613, s. p.]." In the reported Lydd baptisms, there is "Sep. 15, 1544. Catheryne, ye daught. of Peter
Godfrey." No actual marriage is shown in the reported church marriages for John Berry and Catherine Godfrey. We do find later legal court records of Thomas Godfrey and John Berry together as very large landowners and defendants in land usage disputes. There are Thomas Godfreys in Lydd at this time and is the Catherine's brother who is the one associated with John Berry -- Catherine's brother Thomas (1553-1623) of Lydd and her uncle (-1610) of Cottinge in Lydd. The former had wives Ellis Pix and Maria Partriche and the latter's wife is unknown.
-The 22 December 1555 will of Rafe Willcocks (Wilcox) of Lydd identifies two of his maid servants as Constance and Joane Berie. Rafe's daughter Ann marries Jeffrey Berry 15 Oct 1563 in Lydd. Rafe also names as co-executor John Berye of Ivechurch (Ivychurch, which is just the next parish to the west). It would seem logical that there is probably of relationship of Constance and Joane to out Berrys. Perhaps they are sisters of Jeffrey Berry. Rafe's wife is Sybilla mentioned as living in his will. The only thing that is bothersome is Rafe's will is that he names his "father-in-law John Reinoldes." Most would interpret this to mean that Sibilla's maiden name would be Reinoldes, but I think the more common interpretation for this in this era would be step-father. Carol Hutchinson has identified Sibilla as most likely Sibilla Knatchbull, dau. of William Knatchbull, based on the will of William. A Richard Knatchbull is named in Rafe's will as one of the three coexecutors along with Peter Godfrey and John Berry. Peter we have identified above as the father of Catherine Godfrey. Rafe and Peter are jurats and John Berry takes Rafe's place as jurat after his move from Ivychurch to Lydd.
-I believe Sibilla remarries within a year to John Berry. Second marriage judging from proximity of date to that of Sybilla's first husband's death date. Also note that John Berry is mentioned in her first husband's will and apparently makes the move from Ivychurch to Lydd to replace Rafe Wilcox as jurate in Lydd. Much of the land described for John Berry corresponds to that of Rafe Willcox. Per website http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=gbprs%2feastkent%2fmar%2f027393%2f2 accessed 23 May 2017:
"Kent, East Kent marriage index 1538-1754: Sybil Wilcox and John Berry, both residing at Lydd, married 8 Jan 1557.
-A new book "The Origin of Capitalism in England, 1400-1600," by Spencer Dimmock (2014) which I found on Google has an important reference to John Berry, Rafe Wilcox, and the Godfrey family. A partial viewing of some pages can be done free at https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=6Uz3AwAAQBAJ&dq=john+berry+lydd&source=gbs_navlinks_s and do a search for "Berry." (Accessed 24 May 2017.) The missing portions would be helpoful, but from what portion we can see without buying the book we learn:
-P. 310: John Berry had a will in 1592 and his wife Katherine had one in 1612. John has extensive land holdings as a jurat, which was typical of most jurats of Lydd. His holdings were in many places including Ivychurch and other places (cut off by the Google snippet). Berry's will reveals strong links with London and woolen drapers. Katherine with a clothier in Cranbrook. Thomas Godfreys will of 1624 provides details of his land holdings spread across the [Romney[ Marsh and [Industrial] Weald; it also mentions a manor. [This indicates Thomas would be the brother of Catherine and not her uncle who died in 1620.]
-P. 314: Peter Godfrey, in his will of 1567 in Lydd, is shown to be quite wealthy and a proponent of accruing interest for the benefit of various godchildren's inheritances in their minorship.
-P. 315: Ralph Wilcocks was a jurat for only one year, 1554-55. John Berry, yeoman of Ivychurch, immediately replaced Wilcocks as jurat the following year. Rafe Wilcocks, John Berry, and Peter Godfrey were probably the largest sheepowners of the area.
-Pp. 332-33: A fragment of a court case held in royal court of the exchequer at Westminster in London in 1576 shows John Berry of Lydd owned the manor house of Cheyne Court, a farm in Lydd where he was living, and farms and land at Broomhill, Newland, Abbots Marsh, Abbots Land, Ivychurch, and Brookland. His holdings were well over 2000 acres. He had about 1600 sheep and 40 dairy cows. He migrated from Ivychurch to Lydd in 1555 to take up the juracy created when Rafe Wilcocks died. "One might even say it was reserved for him." He was probably one of the wealthiest men in Lydd at the time. "He probably took over Cheyne Court and other farms from Wilcockes upon the latter's death." [The book does not mention a marriage to Wilcock's widow, but it seems likely considering the movement of property.] John Brooks marries Catherine Godfrey [apparently later] thereby nestling him into the Godfrey line, the wealthiest of Lydd. The law case involving him with Thomas Godfrey "Junior" was about the right mix of cattle to sheep according to an obscure law of the earlier 1500s.
-"The Canterbury Probate Index" https://wills.canterbury-cathedral.org/ has the following wills of great interest that need to be looked up:
-Will Berry, Berrye Catherine Lydd 1613 1613 PRC/32/42/241 PRC/31/63 B/3 OW 2 copies
-Inv Berry Katherine Lydd 1613 1613 PRC/28/5/69 Widow, Will
-Will Berrye Alice Hythe 1546 1545 PRC/32/21/31b
-Will Berry Richard Orlestone 1512 1512 PRC/17/12/144b
-Will Berry John Boughton under Blean 1593 1593 PRC/32/37/102a PRC/31/37 B/12 [This one may be a bit too far removed location-wise to be our John Berry.]
-Website http://www.genealogycrank.co.uk/pdfs/will_transcripts_kent.pdf accessed 23 May 2017:
"Jeffrey Berrye; Lydd; 1587: PRC 32/36/71b
"Memorandum that I Geoffrie Berrye of perfect mynde and Memorye thanks be to almighty God .... and ordain my last will and testament. Item I commend my soul into the hands of the almighty. And concerning my debts and legacies. Item I will and ordain my uncle Berry sole executor my sole executor and will that an inventory be thereof taken and that he shall have the profits thereof and keep them to the use of my child until she come unto the age of 16 years or her day of marriage or first that shall happen for the bringing up of my daughter Catherine. By me Geoffrie Berry. Wit Robert Prynne, William Plummer, John Branden"
[A 27 Aug 1586 christening of Catherin -- dau. of Geffrey Berry. Since we know Joane erry who married John Austen was born 1565 to Jeffry Berry, the 1586 christening of Catherin seems too late to be Joane's sister -- with this probate of a different Jeffrey Berry in 1587 in which only one daughter is named (Catherin), then this would indicate that there were two sequential generations of Jeffreys with perhaps one being the father of the other.
-From the published account of "monumental inscriptions "In the Churchyard and Church of All Saints’, Lydd, Kent," by Leland L. Duncan: http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/MIsLydd/MIsLydd.htm accessed 24 May 2017. The following are unique since the Berry and the Wilcox family are adjacent to each other: Both families appear prominent due to their burials and markers being in the church:
473. Going on toward the Belfrye in the said middle alley is a stone with 3 brass Images being a man betwixt 2 women (Inscript) Here lyeth the Body of John BERREY, who was chosen a Juratt of this Towne of Lidd in the 1st yeare of the Reigne of Queene Elizabeth and so continued till his death. He was five times Baylif of the some Towne and dyed the XXth day of December in the 40th yeare of the reigne of the said Queene and in the fowerscore and second yeare of his age Anno Dni 1597.
He that this slender monument did frame
Was heir to Berry’s fortune and His name
Part of his owne one him he doth bestowe
His greater Love in some small sorte to show.
(The inscription is now on the wall of the South Aisle).
474. By the South side of this is a stone worn rought and the Inscription almost gone, with the Coat of Arms: (Inscript) that there lies John BERRY Esq., who by God’s Providence lived in this Town of Lydd many years and performed all offices of Magistacy, was 26 years Captain of ye Trained Band, was born in the year of our Lord 1572. He had 7 children 4 Sons and 3 Daughters. He attained ye full age of 65 and peaceably concluded this life ye 7 of June 1637. (Mem: Plummer’s after this).
475. Beneath this is a stone with a brass figure of a man (there was a woman too but is now lost) and under them these words in Brass viz:
To pass by Death is common unto all
But so to dye as he may live againe
In greater Joy, thys onely doth befall
To those whome Faith doth lead with Xt. to reigne.
Ralfe WILLCOCKES and Sybill his Wiffe Ano Dni 1555. (His will is given in the Appendix).
476. There is a little stone at the north west corner of the former (Inscript) Under there lyeth buried John BERRY ye son of John Berrey of Lydd who died ye 26 of January 1595 or 93.
477. A little farther near the two lowest Pillars of the Church on the North side is a stone (Inscript) Here lieth buried the Body of William WILCOCKE late Jurat three tymes Baylie on this Towne of Lidd, who died the 23 daye of Januari 1626 aged 63 yeares. And there is another Inscription on the same stone below the former shewing that there lieth buried the Body of Wilcocke KNIGHT of Lidd, Gent., who died December the 9th 1670 aged 44 years.
478. On the North side of the last mentioned stone is another with the Inscription almost gone but seems to signifie notwithstanding that there Lies Joane BATE daughter of William WILCOCKE of Lydd, Jurate, and wife of Thomas Bate eldest son of Thomas Bate of Lydd, Jurate, who died the 30th day of May 1622 in the 28th year of her age and hath left a daughter called Joane (or daughters).
479. The next stone on the North between the two lowest Pillars shows that there Lieth buried the Bodi of Susan late wife of William WILLCOCKE who died the 29 day of June 1626 aged 53 and daughter of John BATEMAN Jurate.
B. Possible conclusions for a working theory:
1. John Berry, who died 22 Dec 1597, was born abt 1515 per age given on memorial. His brass effigy is between two unidentified women brass effigies, which probably represents two wives. The first was probably the widow Sybilla (Knatchbull) Wilcocks and the second Catherine (Godfrey). No burial date for the first wife and the second one dies in 1612 with a will that has not been seen yet. Another possibility is that John may have been had an earlier wife than Sybilla, but if so perhaps she died before his 1555 move to Lydd (or she died immediately after the move. Note the much older age of John than his last wife Catherine who was baptized 15 Sep 1544 (a 29 year age difference). Sybilla would have been probably about his same age.
2. John Berry above could be the father of Jeffrey Berry whose daughter Joan, bapt. 14 Feb 1565 in nearby Midley, married John Austen 1584 in Lydd. Ann Wilcox would be her mother since she and Jeffrey married 1563 in Lydd. If John Berry was the father, than Jeffrey would have been born before 1542 assuming he was at least 21 at the time of his marriage (or 1538 if one uses 25 as the age). John was born 1515 and would have been at least 21 when he would have had children which would recalculate Jeffrey's birth to no earlier than 1536. This than allows a reasonable birth for Jeffrey of between 1536 to 1542. Alternatively, Jeffrey could be a younger brother of John. Perhaps the wills of John and his wife Catherine, when finally found and transcribed may have some clues.
3. Apparently there is another younger Jeffrey who died young and only had one daughter Catherine per his 1587 will. He could be a son of either the John or the senior Jeffrey. He would have had to be born in 1564 if he were Jeffrey's son making a tight fit between the 15 Oct 1563 marriage date and the 14 Feb 1565 baptism date of Joane (it would work if Joane's actual baptism date was dual dated as 14 Feb 1565/6). He could also be John's son born either to Sybilla shortly after their 1555 marriage (while she was still of childbearing capablilty). Since we don't have a marriage date for John's second wife Catherine Godfrey, we would have to estimate she was at least 19 which would calculate as 1563 and again make a tight fit, but possible, for Jeffrey Jr. similar to if Jeffrey Sr. were his father. Not having Sybilla's death date, Catherine Godfrey's marriage date, or Jeffrey Jr.'s baptism date makes all of this speculative.
4. There is a second John (Jr.) who was born in 1572 per is memorial. He died 7 June 1637. I would assume him to be the son of John Sr. and Catherine Godfrey, but he could also be the son of Jeffrey Sr. and Anne Wilcox. Subject to further investigation, I am leaning to his father being John Sr. -- John would have been 57 but his wife Catherine would be 28. Catherine's 1612 will might clear this up.
5. The maid servants of Rafe Willcocks per his 1555 will (Constance and Joane) could be children of John Sr. and therefor sisters to Jeffrey Sr. or they may be sisters of John Sr.
6. There are some earlier wills for Berrys in near vicinity who may be related and finding and transcribing their wills will help.
7. Also there should be a will dated 1592 maybe probated circa 1597/8 for John Berry Sr. judging from the comments in the Capitalism book. This will appears to be critical to find. 
Godfrey, Catherine (I5573)
 
4820 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In progress research and theories:
A. Various comments, factoids, and leads I have found to follow for research:
-The publication "The Visitation of the County or Kent, taken in 1619," by Phlipott at website http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/006%20-%201866/006-13.pdf accessed 24 May 2017, pp. 260-69, gives the lineage and arms of the gentry family of Godfrey, one of the ancient families of Lydd. Included with the visitation are wills, church records. and other records of this family. Of interest is the daughter Catherine of Peter Godfrey and Joan Epes. The lineage chart indicates: "Katherina ux : Johis Berry de Lyd [bo. 1542 ; ob. 1613, s. p.]." In the reported Lydd baptisms, there is "Sep. 15, 1544. Catheryne, ye daught. of Peter
Godfrey." No actual marriage is shown in the reported church marriages for John Berry and Catherine Godfrey. We do find later legal court records of Thomas Godfrey and John Berry together as very large landowners and defendants in land usage disputes. There are Thomas Godfreys in Lydd at this time and is the Catherine's brother who is the one associated with John Berry -- Catherine's brother Thomas (1553-1623) of Lydd and her uncle (-1610) of Cottinge in Lydd. The former had wives Ellis Pix and Maria Partriche and the latter's wife is unknown.
-The 22 December 1555 will of Rafe Willcocks (Wilcox) of Lydd identifies two of his maid servants as Constance and Joane Berie. Rafe's daughter Ann marries Jeffrey Berry 15 Oct 1563 in Lydd. Rafe also names as co-executor John Berye of Ivechurch (Ivychurch, which is just the next parish to the west). It would seem logical that there is probably of relationship of Constance and Joane to out Berrys. Perhaps they are sisters of Jeffrey Berry. Rafe's wife is Sybilla mentioned as living in his will. The only thing that is bothersome is Rafe's will is that he names his "father-in-law John Reinoldes." Most would interpret this to mean that Sibilla's maiden name would be Reinoldes, but I think the more common interpretation for this in this era would be step-father. Carol Hutchinson has identified Sibilla as most likely Sibilla Knatchbull, dau. of William Knatchbull, based on the will of William. A Richard Knatchbull is named in Rafe's will as one of the three coexecutors along with Peter Godfrey and John Berry. Peter we have identified above as the father of Catherine Godfrey. Rafe and Peter are jurats and John Berry takes Rafe's place as jurat after his move from Ivychurch to Lydd.
-I believe Sibilla remarries within a year to John Berry. Second marriage judging from proximity of date to that of Sybilla's first husband's death date. Also note that John Berry is mentioned in her first husband's will and apparently makes the move from Ivychurch to Lydd to replace Rafe Wilcox as jurate in Lydd. Much of the land described for John Berry corresponds to that of Rafe Willcox. Per website http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=gbprs%2feastkent%2fmar%2f027393%2f2 accessed 23 May 2017:
"Kent, East Kent marriage index 1538-1754: Sybil Wilcox and John Berry, both residing at Lydd, married 8 Jan 1557.
-A new book "The Origin of Capitalism in England, 1400-1600," by Spencer Dimmock (2014) which I found on Google has an important reference to John Berry, Rafe Wilcox, and the Godfrey family. A partial viewing of some pages can be done free at https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=6Uz3AwAAQBAJ&dq=john+berry+lydd&source=gbs_navlinks_s and do a search for "Berry." (Accessed 24 May 2017.) The missing portions would be helpoful, but from what portion we can see without buying the book we learn:
-P. 310: John Berry had a will in 1592 and his wife Katherine had one in 1612. John has extensive land holdings as a jurat, which was typical of most jurats of Lydd. His holdings were in many places including Ivychurch and other places (cut off by the Google snippet). Berry's will reveals strong links with London and woolen drapers. Katherine with a clothier in Cranbrook. Thomas Godfreys will of 1624 provides details of his land holdings spread across the [Romney[ Marsh and [Industrial] Weald; it also mentions a manor. [This indicates Thomas would be the brother of Catherine and not her uncle who died in 1620.]
-P. 314: Peter Godfrey, in his will of 1567 in Lydd, is shown to be quite wealthy and a proponent of accruing interest for the benefit of various godchildren's inheritances in their minorship.
-P. 315: Ralph Wilcocks was a jurat for only one year, 1554-55. John Berry, yeoman of Ivychurch, immediately replaced Wilcocks as jurat the following year. Rafe Wilcocks, John Berry, and Peter Godfrey were probably the largest sheepowners of the area.
-Pp. 332-33: A fragment of a court case held in royal court of the exchequer at Westminster in London in 1576 shows John Berry of Lydd owned the manor house of Cheyne Court, a farm in Lydd where he was living, and farms and land at Broomhill, Newland, Abbots Marsh, Abbots Land, Ivychurch, and Brookland. His holdings were well over 2000 acres. He had about 1600 sheep and 40 dairy cows. He migrated from Ivychurch to Lydd in 1555 to take up the juracy created when Rafe Wilcocks died. "One might even say it was reserved for him." He was probably one of the wealthiest men in Lydd at the time. "He probably took over Cheyne Court and other farms from Wilcockes upon the latter's death." [The book does not mention a marriage to Wilcock's widow, but it seems likely considering the movement of property.] John Brooks marries Catherine Godfrey [apparently later] thereby nestling him into the Godfrey line, the wealthiest of Lydd. The law case involving him with Thomas Godfrey "Junior" was about the right mix of cattle to sheep according to an obscure law of the earlier 1500s.
-"The Canterbury Probate Index" https://wills.canterbury-cathedral.org/ has the following wills of great interest that need to be looked up:
-Will Berry, Berrye Catherine Lydd 1613 1613 PRC/32/42/241 PRC/31/63 B/3 OW 2 copies
-Inv Berry Katherine Lydd 1613 1613 PRC/28/5/69 Widow, Will
-Will Berrye Alice Hythe 1546 1545 PRC/32/21/31b
-Will Berry Richard Orlestone 1512 1512 PRC/17/12/144b
-Will Berry John Boughton under Blean 1593 1593 PRC/32/37/102a PRC/31/37 B/12 [This one may be a bit too far removed location-wise to be our John Berry.]
-Website http://www.genealogycrank.co.uk/pdfs/will_transcripts_kent.pdf accessed 23 May 2017:
"Jeffrey Berrye; Lydd; 1587: PRC 32/36/71b
"Memorandum that I Geoffrie Berrye of perfect mynde and Memorye thanks be to almighty God .... and ordain my last will and testament. Item I commend my soul into the hands of the almighty. And concerning my debts and legacies. Item I will and ordain my uncle Berry sole executor my sole executor and will that an inventory be thereof taken and that he shall have the profits thereof and keep them to the use of my child until she come unto the age of 16 years or her day of marriage or first that shall happen for the bringing up of my daughter Catherine. By me Geoffrie Berry. Wit Robert Prynne, William Plummer, John Branden"
[A 27 Aug 1586 christening of Catherin -- dau. of Geffrey Berry. Since we know Joane erry who married John Austen was born 1565 to Jeffry Berry, the 1586 christening of Catherin seems too late to be Joane's sister -- with this probate of a different Jeffrey Berry in 1587 in which only one daughter is named (Catherin), then this would indicate that there were two sequential generations of Jeffreys with perhaps one being the father of the other.
-From the published account of "monumental inscriptions "In the Churchyard and Church of All Saints’, Lydd, Kent," by Leland L. Duncan: http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/MIsLydd/MIsLydd.htm accessed 24 May 2017. The following are unique since the Berry and the Wilcox family are adjacent to each other: Both families appear prominent due to their burials and markers being in the church:
473. Going on toward the Belfrye in the said middle alley is a stone with 3 brass Images being a man betwixt 2 women (Inscript) Here lyeth the Body of John BERREY, who was chosen a Juratt of this Towne of Lidd in the 1st yeare of the Reigne of Queene Elizabeth and so continued till his death. He was five times Baylif of the some Towne and dyed the XXth day of December in the 40th yeare of the reigne of the said Queene and in the fowerscore and second yeare of his age Anno Dni 1597.
He that this slender monument did frame
Was heir to Berry’s fortune and His name
Part of his owne one him he doth bestowe
His greater Love in some small sorte to show.
(The inscription is now on the wall of the South Aisle).
474. By the South side of this is a stone worn rought and the Inscription almost gone, with the Coat of Arms: (Inscript) that there lies John BERRY Esq., who by God’s Providence lived in this Town of Lydd many years and performed all offices of Magistacy, was 26 years Captain of ye Trained Band, was born in the year of our Lord 1572. He had 7 children 4 Sons and 3 Daughters. He attained ye full age of 65 and peaceably concluded this life ye 7 of June 1637. (Mem: Plummer’s after this).
475. Beneath this is a stone with a brass figure of a man (there was a woman too but is now lost) and under them these words in Brass viz:
To pass by Death is common unto all
But so to dye as he may live againe
In greater Joy, thys onely doth befall
To those whome Faith doth lead with Xt. to reigne.
Ralfe WILLCOCKES and Sybill his Wiffe Ano Dni 1555. (His will is given in the Appendix).
476. There is a little stone at the north west corner of the former (Inscript) Under there lyeth buried John BERRY ye son of John Berrey of Lydd who died ye 26 of January 1595 or 93.
477. A little farther near the two lowest Pillars of the Church on the North side is a stone (Inscript) Here lieth buried the Body of William WILCOCKE late Jurat three tymes Baylie on this Towne of Lidd, who died the 23 daye of Januari 1626 aged 63 yeares. And there is another Inscription on the same stone below the former shewing that there lieth buried the Body of Wilcocke KNIGHT of Lidd, Gent., who died December the 9th 1670 aged 44 years.
478. On the North side of the last mentioned stone is another with the Inscription almost gone but seems to signifie notwithstanding that there Lies Joane BATE daughter of William WILCOCKE of Lydd, Jurate, and wife of Thomas Bate eldest son of Thomas Bate of Lydd, Jurate, who died the 30th day of May 1622 in the 28th year of her age and hath left a daughter called Joane (or daughters).
479. The next stone on the North between the two lowest Pillars shows that there Lieth buried the Bodi of Susan late wife of William WILLCOCKE who died the 29 day of June 1626 aged 53 and daughter of John BATEMAN Jurate.
B. Possible conclusions for a working theory:
1. John Berry, who died 22 Dec 1597, was born abt 1515 per age given on memorial. His brass effigy is between two unidentified women brass effigies, which probably represents two wives. The first was probably the widow Sybilla (Knatchbull) Wilcocks and the second Catherine (Godfrey). No burial date for the first wife and the second one dies in 1612 with a will that has not been seen yet. Another possibility is that John may have been had an earlier wife than Sybilla, but if so perhaps she died before his 1555 move to Lydd (or she died immediately after the move. Note the much older age of John than his last wife Catherine who was baptized 15 Sep 1544 (a 29 year age difference). Sybilla would have been probably about his same age.
2. John Berry above could be the father of Jeffrey Berry whose daughter Joan, bapt. 14 Feb 1565 in nearby Midley, married John Austen 1584 in Lydd. Ann Wilcox would be her mother since she and Jeffrey married 1563 in Lydd. If John Berry was the father, than Jeffrey would have been born before 1542 assuming he was at least 21 at the time of his marriage (or 1538 if one uses 25 as the age). John was born 1515 and would have been at least 21 when he would have had children which would recalculate Jeffrey's birth to no earlier than 1536. This than allows a reasonable birth for Jeffrey of between 1536 to 1542. Alternatively, Jeffrey could be a younger brother of John. Perhaps the wills of John and his wife Catherine, when finally found and transcribed may have some clues.
3. Apparently there is another younger Jeffrey who died young and only had one daughter Catherine per his 1587 will. He could be a son of either the John or the senior Jeffrey. He would have had to be born in 1564 if he were Jeffrey's son making a tight fit between the 15 Oct 1563 marriage date and the 14 Feb 1565 baptism date of Joane (it would work if Joane's actual baptism date was dual dated as 14 Feb 1565/6). He could also be John's son born either to Sybilla shortly after their 1555 marriage (while she was still of childbearing capablilty). Since we don't have a marriage date for John's second wife Catherine Godfrey, we would have to estimate she was at least 19 which would calculate as 1563 and again make a tight fit, but possible, for Jeffrey Jr. similar to if Jeffrey Sr. were his father. Not having Sybilla's death date, Catherine Godfrey's marriage date, or Jeffrey Jr.'s baptism date makes all of this speculative.
4. There is a second John (Jr.) who was born in 1572 per is memorial. He died 7 June 1637. I would assume him to be the son of John Sr. and Catherine Godfrey, but he could also be the son of Jeffrey Sr. and Anne Wilcox. Subject to further investigation, I am leaning to his father being John Sr. -- John would have been 57 but his wife Catherine would be 28. Catherine's 1612 will might clear this up.
5. The maid servants of Rafe Willcocks per his 1555 will (Constance and Joane) could be children of John Sr. and therefor sisters to Jeffrey Sr. or they may be sisters of John Sr.
6. There are some earlier wills for Berrys in near vicinity who may be related and finding and transcribing their wills will help.
7. Also there should be a will dated 1592 maybe probated circa 1597/8 for John Berry Sr. judging from the comments in the Capitalism book. This will appears to be critical to find.

MARRIAGE:
1. Second marriage judging from proximity of date to that of Sybilla's first husband's death date. Also note that John Berry is mentioned in her first husband's will and apparently makes the move from Ivychurch to Lydd to replace Rafe Wilcox as jurate in Lydd. Much of the land described for John Berry corresponds to that of Rafe Willcox. Per website http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=gbprs%2feastkent%2fmar%2f027393%2f2 accessed 23 May 2017:
"Kent, East Kent marriage index 1538-1754 Transcription
First name(s): Sybil
Last name: Wilcox
Residence: Lydd
Marriage year: 1557
Marriage date: 8 Jan 1557
Marriage place: Lydd
Spouse's first name(s): John
Spouse's last name: Berry
Spouse's residence: Lydd
County: Kent
Country: England" 
Berry, John (I5572)
 
4821 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In progress research and theories:
A. Various comments, factoids, and leads I have found to follow for research:
-The publication "The Visitation of the County or Kent, taken in 1619," by Phlipott at website http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/006%20-%201866/006-13.pdf accessed 24 May 2017, pp. 260-69, gives the lineage and arms of the gentry family of Godfrey, one of the ancient families of Lydd. Included with the visitation are wills, church records. and other records of this family. Of interest is the daughter Catherine of Peter Godfrey and Joan Epes. The lineage chart indicates: "Katherina ux : Johis Berry de Lyd [bo. 1542 ; ob. 1613, s. p.]." In the reported Lydd baptisms, there is "Sep. 15, 1544. Catheryne, ye daught. of Peter
Godfrey." No actual marriage is shown in the reported church marriages for John Berry and Catherine Godfrey. We do find later legal court records of Thomas Godfrey and John Berry together as very large landowners and defendants in land usage disputes. There are Thomas Godfreys in Lydd at this time and is the Catherine's brother who is the one associated with John Berry -- Catherine's brother Thomas (1553-1623) of Lydd and her uncle (-1610) of Cottinge in Lydd. The former had wives Ellis Pix and Maria Partriche and the latter's wife is unknown.
-The 22 December 1555 will of Rafe Willcocks (Wilcox) of Lydd identifies two of his maid servants as Constance and Joane Berie. Rafe's daughter Ann marries Jeffrey Berry 15 Oct 1563 in Lydd. Rafe also names as co-executor John Berye of Ivechurch (Ivychurch, which is just the next parish to the west). It would seem logical that there is probably of relationship of Constance and Joane to out Berrys. Perhaps they are sisters of Jeffrey Berry. Rafe's wife is Sybilla mentioned as living in his will. The only thing that is bothersome is Rafe's will is that he names his "father-in-law John Reinoldes." Most would interpret this to mean that Sibilla's maiden name would be Reinoldes, but I think the more common interpretation for this in this era would be step-father. Carol Hutchinson has identified Sibilla as most likely Sibilla Knatchbull, dau. of William Knatchbull, based on the will of William. A Richard Knatchbull is named in Rafe's will as one of the three coexecutors along with Peter Godfrey and John Berry. Peter we have identified above as the father of Catherine Godfrey. Rafe and Peter are jurats and John Berry takes Rafe's place as jurat after his move from Ivychurch to Lydd.
-I believe Sibilla remarries within a year to John Berry. Second marriage judging from proximity of date to that of Sybilla's first husband's death date. Also note that John Berry is mentioned in her first husband's will and apparently makes the move from Ivychurch to Lydd to replace Rafe Wilcox as jurate in Lydd. Much of the land described for John Berry corresponds to that of Rafe Willcox. Per website http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=gbprs%2feastkent%2fmar%2f027393%2f2 accessed 23 May 2017:
"Kent, East Kent marriage index 1538-1754: Sybil Wilcox and John Berry, both residing at Lydd, married 8 Jan 1557.
-A new book "The Origin of Capitalism in England, 1400-1600," by Spencer Dimmock (2014) which I found on Google has an important reference to John Berry, Rafe Wilcox, and the Godfrey family. A partial viewing of some pages can be done free at https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=6Uz3AwAAQBAJ&dq=john+berry+lydd&source=gbs_navlinks_s and do a search for "Berry." (Accessed 24 May 2017.) The missing portions would be helpoful, but from what portion we can see without buying the book we learn:
-P. 310: John Berry had a will in 1592 and his wife Katherine had one in 1612. John has extensive land holdings as a jurat, which was typical of most jurats of Lydd. His holdings were in many places including Ivychurch and other places (cut off by the Google snippet). Berry's will reveals strong links with London and woolen drapers. Katherine with a clothier in Cranbrook. Thomas Godfreys will of 1624 provides details of his land holdings spread across the [Romney[ Marsh and [Industrial] Weald; it also mentions a manor. [This indicates Thomas would be the brother of Catherine and not her uncle who died in 1620.]
-P. 314: Peter Godfrey, in his will of 1567 in Lydd, is shown to be quite wealthy and a proponent of accruing interest for the benefit of various godchildren's inheritances in their minorship.
-P. 315: Ralph Wilcocks was a jurat for only one year, 1554-55. John Berry, yeoman of Ivychurch, immediately replaced Wilcocks as jurat the following year. Rafe Wilcocks, John Berry, and Peter Godfrey were probably the largest sheepowners of the area.
-Pp. 332-33: A fragment of a court case held in royal court of the exchequer at Westminster in London in 1576 shows John Berry of Lydd owned the manor house of Cheyne Court, a farm in Lydd where he was living, and farms and land at Broomhill, Newland, Abbots Marsh, Abbots Land, Ivychurch, and Brookland. His holdings were well over 2000 acres. He had about 1600 sheep and 40 dairy cows. He migrated from Ivychurch to Lydd in 1555 to take up the juracy created when Rafe Wilcocks died. "One might even say it was reserved for him." He was probably one of the wealthiest men in Lydd at the time. "He probably took over Cheyne Court and other farms from Wilcockes upon the latter's death." [The book does not mention a marriage to Wilcock's widow, but it seems likely considering the movement of property.] John Brooks marries Catherine Godfrey [apparently later] thereby nestling him into the Godfrey line, the wealthiest of Lydd. The law case involving him with Thomas Godfrey "Junior" was about the right mix of cattle to sheep according to an obscure law of the earlier 1500s.
-"The Canterbury Probate Index" https://wills.canterbury-cathedral.org/ has the following wills of great interest that need to be looked up:
-Will Berry, Berrye Catherine Lydd 1613 1613 PRC/32/42/241 PRC/31/63 B/3 OW 2 copies
-Inv Berry Katherine Lydd 1613 1613 PRC/28/5/69 Widow, Will
-Will Berrye Alice Hythe 1546 1545 PRC/32/21/31b
-Will Berry Richard Orlestone 1512 1512 PRC/17/12/144b
-Will Berry John Boughton under Blean 1593 1593 PRC/32/37/102a PRC/31/37 B/12 [This one may be a bit too far removed location-wise to be our John Berry.]
-Website http://www.genealogycrank.co.uk/pdfs/will_transcripts_kent.pdf accessed 23 May 2017:
"Jeffrey Berrye; Lydd; 1587: PRC 32/36/71b
"Memorandum that I Geoffrie Berrye of perfect mynde and Memorye thanks be to almighty God .... and ordain my last will and testament. Item I commend my soul into the hands of the almighty. And concerning my debts and legacies. Item I will and ordain my uncle Berry sole executor my sole executor and will that an inventory be thereof taken and that he shall have the profits thereof and keep them to the use of my child until she come unto the age of 16 years or her day of marriage or first that shall happen for the bringing up of my daughter Catherine. By me Geoffrie Berry. Wit Robert Prynne, William Plummer, John Branden"
[A 27 Aug 1586 christening of Catherin -- dau. of Geffrey Berry. Since we know Joane erry who married John Austen was born 1565 to Jeffry Berry, the 1586 christening of Catherin seems too late to be Joane's sister -- with this probate of a different Jeffrey Berry in 1587 in which only one daughter is named (Catherin), then this would indicate that there were two sequential generations of Jeffreys with perhaps one being the father of the other.
-From the published account of "monumental inscriptions "In the Churchyard and Church of All Saints’, Lydd, Kent," by Leland L. Duncan: http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/MIsLydd/MIsLydd.htm accessed 24 May 2017. The following are unique since the Berry and the Wilcox family are adjacent to each other: Both families appear prominent due to their burials and markers being in the church:
473. Going on toward the Belfrye in the said middle alley is a stone with 3 brass Images being a man betwixt 2 women (Inscript) Here lyeth the Body of John BERREY, who was chosen a Juratt of this Towne of Lidd in the 1st yeare of the Reigne of Queene Elizabeth and so continued till his death. He was five times Baylif of the some Towne and dyed the XXth day of December in the 40th yeare of the reigne of the said Queene and in the fowerscore and second yeare of his age Anno Dni 1597.
He that this slender monument did frame
Was heir to Berry’s fortune and His name
Part of his owne one him he doth bestowe
His greater Love in some small sorte to show.
(The inscription is now on the wall of the South Aisle).
474. By the South side of this is a stone worn rought and the Inscription almost gone, with the Coat of Arms: (Inscript) that there lies John BERRY Esq., who by God’s Providence lived in this Town of Lydd many years and performed all offices of Magistacy, was 26 years Captain of ye Trained Band, was born in the year of our Lord 1572. He had 7 children 4 Sons and 3 Daughters. He attained ye full age of 65 and peaceably concluded this life ye 7 of June 1637. (Mem: Plummer’s after this).
475. Beneath this is a stone with a brass figure of a man (there was a woman too but is now lost) and under them these words in Brass viz:
To pass by Death is common unto all
But so to dye as he may live againe
In greater Joy, thys onely doth befall
To those whome Faith doth lead with Xt. to reigne.
Ralfe WILLCOCKES and Sybill his Wiffe Ano Dni 1555. (His will is given in the Appendix).
476. There is a little stone at the north west corner of the former (Inscript) Under there lyeth buried John BERRY ye son of John Berrey of Lydd who died ye 26 of January 1595 or 93.
477. A little farther near the two lowest Pillars of the Church on the North side is a stone (Inscript) Here lieth buried the Body of William WILCOCKE late Jurat three tymes Baylie on this Towne of Lidd, who died the 23 daye of Januari 1626 aged 63 yeares. And there is another Inscription on the same stone below the former shewing that there lieth buried the Body of Wilcocke KNIGHT of Lidd, Gent., who died December the 9th 1670 aged 44 years.
478. On the North side of the last mentioned stone is another with the Inscription almost gone but seems to signifie notwithstanding that there Lies Joane BATE daughter of William WILCOCKE of Lydd, Jurate, and wife of Thomas Bate eldest son of Thomas Bate of Lydd, Jurate, who died the 30th day of May 1622 in the 28th year of her age and hath left a daughter called Joane (or daughters).
479. The next stone on the North between the two lowest Pillars shows that there Lieth buried the Bodi of Susan late wife of William WILLCOCKE who died the 29 day of June 1626 aged 53 and daughter of John BATEMAN Jurate.
B. Possible conclusions for a working theory:
1. John Berry, who died 22 Dec 1597, was born abt 1515 per age given on memorial. His brass effigy is between two unidentified women brass effigies, which probably represents two wives. The first was probably the widow Sybilla (Knatchbull) Wilcocks and the second Catherine (Godfrey). No burial date for the first wife and the second one dies in 1612 with a will that has not been seen yet. Another possibility is that John may have been had an earlier wife than Sybilla, but if so perhaps she died before his 1555 move to Lydd (or she died immediately after the move. Note the much older age of John than his last wife Catherine who was baptized 15 Sep 1544 (a 29 year age difference). Sybilla would have been probably about his same age.
2. John Berry above could be the father of Jeffrey Berry whose daughter Joan, bapt. 14 Feb 1565 in nearby Midley, married John Austen 1584 in Lydd. Ann Wilcox would be her mother since she and Jeffrey married 1563 in Lydd. If John Berry was the father, than Jeffrey would have been born before 1542 assuming he was at least 21 at the time of his marriage (or 1538 if one uses 25 as the age). John was born 1515 and would have been at least 21 when he would have had children which would recalculate Jeffrey's birth to no earlier than 1536. This than allows a reasonable birth for Jeffrey of between 1536 to 1542. Alternatively, Jeffrey could be a younger brother of John. Perhaps the wills of John and his wife Catherine, when finally found and transcribed may have some clues.
3. Apparently there is another younger Jeffrey who died young and only had one daughter Catherine per his 1587 will. He could be a son of either the John or the senior Jeffrey. He would have had to be born in 1564 if he were Jeffrey's son making a tight fit between the 15 Oct 1563 marriage date and the 14 Feb 1565 baptism date of Joane (it would work if Joane's actual baptism date was dual dated as 14 Feb 1565/6). He could also be John's son born either to Sybilla shortly after their 1555 marriage (while she was still of childbearing capablilty). Since we don't have a marriage date for John's second wife Catherine Godfrey, we would have to estimate she was at least 19 which would calculate as 1563 and again make a tight fit, but possible, for Jeffrey Jr. similar to if Jeffrey Sr. were his father. Not having Sybilla's death date, Catherine Godfrey's marriage date, or Jeffrey Jr.'s baptism date makes all of this speculative.
4. There is a second John (Jr.) who was born in 1572 per is memorial. He died 7 June 1637. I would assume him to be the son of John Sr. and Catherine Godfrey, but he could also be the son of Jeffrey Sr. and Anne Wilcox. Subject to further investigation, I am leaning to his father being John Sr. -- John would have been 57 but his wife Catherine would be 28. Catherine's 1612 will might clear this up.
5. The maid servants of Rafe Willcocks per his 1555 will (Constance and Joane) could be children of John Sr. and therefor sisters to Jeffrey Sr. or they may be sisters of John Sr.
6. There are some earlier wills for Berrys in near vicinity who may be related and finding and transcribing their wills will help.
7. Also there should be a will dated 1592 maybe probated circa 1597/8 for John Berry Sr. judging from the comments in the Capitalism book. This will appears to be critical to find.

2. Jeffry Berry is mentioned by name as the father on his daughter Joane's tomb in Horsmonden, which states Joane was born 14 Feb 1565 in Midley (next door to Lydd) and married in Lydd. Midley parish records no longer exist except for a couple pages of the Bishop's Transcripts. The Lydd parish records begin about 1570 and have the following entries:
- The 1584 marriage of Johan Berey to John Austen.
- A 27 Aug 1586 christening of Catherin -- dau. of Geffrey Berry.
- Jefery Berry chr. 24 Nov 1611 -- son of John Berry.
- John Berye chr 23 Nov 1595 -- son of John Berye.
Since we know Joane was born 1565 to Jeffry Berry, the 1586 christening of Catherin seems too late to be Joane's sister -- indeed we find the probate of a different Jeffrey Berry in 1587 in which only one daughter is named: Catherin. This would indicate that there were two sequential generations of Jeffreys with perhaps one being the father of the other.
John Berry is probably related since the name Jefery is used a generation later.
The next Berry records in Lydd are marriages in the mid-1750s. 
Berry, John (I4960)
 
4822 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In progress research and theories:
A. Various comments, factoids, and leads I have found to follow for research:
-The publication "The Visitation of the County or Kent, taken in 1619," by Phlipott at website http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/006%20-%201866/006-13.pdf accessed 24 May 2017, pp. 260-69, gives the lineage and arms of the gentry family of Godfrey, one of the ancient families of Lydd. Included with the visitation are wills, church records. and other records of this family. Of interest is the daughter Catherine of Peter Godfrey and Joan Epes. The lineage chart indicates: "Katherina ux : Johis Berry de Lyd [bo. 1542 ; ob. 1613, s. p.]." In the reported Lydd baptisms, there is "Sep. 15, 1544. Catheryne, ye daught. of Peter
Godfrey." No actual marriage is shown in the reported church marriages for John Berry and Catherine Godfrey. We do find later legal court records of Thomas Godfrey and John Berry together as very large landowners and defendants in land usage disputes. There are Thomas Godfreys in Lydd at this time and is the Catherine's brother who is the one associated with John Berry -- Catherine's brother Thomas (1553-1623) of Lydd and her uncle (-1610) of Cottinge in Lydd. The former had wives Ellis Pix and Maria Partriche and the latter's wife is unknown.
-The 22 December 1555 will of Rafe Willcocks (Wilcox) of Lydd identifies two of his maid servants as Constance and Joane Berie. Rafe's daughter Ann marries Jeffrey Berry 15 Oct 1563 in Lydd. Rafe also names as co-executor John Berye of Ivechurch (Ivychurch, which is just the next parish to the west). It would seem logical that there is probably of relationship of Constance and Joane to out Berrys. Perhaps they are sisters of Jeffrey Berry. Rafe's wife is Sybilla mentioned as living in his will. The only thing that is bothersome is Rafe's will is that he names his "father-in-law John Reinoldes." Most would interpret this to mean that Sibilla's maiden name would be Reinoldes, but I think the more common interpretation for this in this era would be step-father. Carol Hutchinson has identified Sibilla as most likely Sibilla Knatchbull, dau. of William Knatchbull, based on the will of William. A Richard Knatchbull is named in Rafe's will as one of the three coexecutors along with Peter Godfrey and John Berry. Peter we have identified above as the father of Catherine Godfrey. Rafe and Peter are jurats and John Berry takes Rafe's place as jurat after his move from Ivychurch to Lydd.
-I believe Sibilla remarries within a year to John Berry. Second marriage judging from proximity of date to that of Sybilla's first husband's death date. Also note that John Berry is mentioned in her first husband's will and apparently makes the move from Ivychurch to Lydd to replace Rafe Wilcox as jurate in Lydd. Much of the land described for John Berry corresponds to that of Rafe Willcox. Per website http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=gbprs%2feastkent%2fmar%2f027393%2f2 accessed 23 May 2017:
"Kent, East Kent marriage index 1538-1754: Sybil Wilcox and John Berry, both residing at Lydd, married 8 Jan 1557.
-A new book "The Origin of Capitalism in England, 1400-1600," by Spencer Dimmock (2014) which I found on Google has an important reference to John Berry, Rafe Wilcox, and the Godfrey family. A partial viewing of some pages can be done free at https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=6Uz3AwAAQBAJ&dq=john+berry+lydd&source=gbs_navlinks_s and do a search for "Berry." (Accessed 24 May 2017.) The missing portions would be helpoful, but from what portion we can see without buying the book we learn:
-P. 310: John Berry had a will in 1592 and his wife Katherine had one in 1612. John has extensive land holdings as a jurat, which was typical of most jurats of Lydd. His holdings were in many places including Ivychurch and other places (cut off by the Google snippet). Berry's will reveals strong links with London and woolen drapers. Katherine with a clothier in Cranbrook. Thomas Godfreys will of 1624 provides details of his land holdings spread across the [Romney[ Marsh and [Industrial] Weald; it also mentions a manor. [This indicates Thomas would be the brother of Catherine and not her uncle who died in 1620.]
-P. 314: Peter Godfrey, in his will of 1567 in Lydd, is shown to be quite wealthy and a proponent of accruing interest for the benefit of various godchildren's inheritances in their minorship.
-P. 315: Ralph Wilcocks was a jurat for only one year, 1554-55. John Berry, yeoman of Ivychurch, immediately replaced Wilcocks as jurat the following year. Rafe Wilcocks, John Berry, and Peter Godfrey were probably the largest sheepowners of the area.
-Pp. 332-33: A fragment of a court case held in royal court of the exchequer at Westminster in London in 1576 shows John Berry of Lydd owned the manor house of Cheyne Court, a farm in Lydd where he was living, and farms and land at Broomhill, Newland, Abbots Marsh, Abbots Land, Ivychurch, and Brookland. His holdings were well over 2000 acres. He had about 1600 sheep and 40 dairy cows. He migrated from Ivychurch to Lydd in 1555 to take up the juracy created when Rafe Wilcocks died. "One might even say it was reserved for him." He was probably one of the wealthiest men in Lydd at the time. "He probably took over Cheyne Court and other farms from Wilcockes upon the latter's death." [The book does not mention a marriage to Wilcock's widow, but it seems likely considering the movement of property.] John Brooks marries Catherine Godfrey [apparently later] thereby nestling him into the Godfrey line, the wealthiest of Lydd. The law case involving him with Thomas Godfrey "Junior" was about the right mix of cattle to sheep according to an obscure law of the earlier 1500s.
-"The Canterbury Probate Index" https://wills.canterbury-cathedral.org/ has the following wills of great interest that need to be looked up:
-Will Berry, Berrye Catherine Lydd 1613 1613 PRC/32/42/241 PRC/31/63 B/3 OW 2 copies
-Inv Berry Katherine Lydd 1613 1613 PRC/28/5/69 Widow, Will
-Will Berrye Alice Hythe 1546 1545 PRC/32/21/31b
-Will Berry Richard Orlestone 1512 1512 PRC/17/12/144b
-Will Berry John Boughton under Blean 1593 1593 PRC/32/37/102a PRC/31/37 B/12 [This one may be a bit too far removed location-wise to be our John Berry.]
-Website http://www.genealogycrank.co.uk/pdfs/will_transcripts_kent.pdf accessed 23 May 2017:
"Jeffrey Berrye; Lydd; 1587: PRC 32/36/71b
"Memorandum that I Geoffrie Berrye of perfect mynde and Memorye thanks be to almighty God .... and ordain my last will and testament. Item I commend my soul into the hands of the almighty. And concerning my debts and legacies. Item I will and ordain my uncle Berry sole executor my sole executor and will that an inventory be thereof taken and that he shall have the profits thereof and keep them to the use of my child until she come unto the age of 16 years or her day of marriage or first that shall happen for the bringing up of my daughter Catherine. By me Geoffrie Berry. Wit Robert Prynne, William Plummer, John Branden"
[A 27 Aug 1586 christening of Catherin -- dau. of Geffrey Berry. Since we know Joane erry who married John Austen was born 1565 to Jeffry Berry, the 1586 christening of Catherin seems too late to be Joane's sister -- with this probate of a different Jeffrey Berry in 1587 in which only one daughter is named (Catherin), then this would indicate that there were two sequential generations of Jeffreys with perhaps one being the father of the other.
-From the published account of "monumental inscriptions "In the Churchyard and Church of All Saints’, Lydd, Kent," by Leland L. Duncan: http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/MIsLydd/MIsLydd.htm accessed 24 May 2017. The following are unique since the Berry and the Wilcox family are adjacent to each other: Both families appear prominent due to their burials and markers being in the church:
473. Going on toward the Belfrye in the said middle alley is a stone with 3 brass Images being a man betwixt 2 women (Inscript) Here lyeth the Body of John BERREY, who was chosen a Juratt of this Towne of Lidd in the 1st yeare of the Reigne of Queene Elizabeth and so continued till his death. He was five times Baylif of the some Towne and dyed the XXth day of December in the 40th yeare of the reigne of the said Queene and in the fowerscore and second yeare of his age Anno Dni 1597.
He that this slender monument did frame
Was heir to Berry’s fortune and His name
Part of his owne one him he doth bestowe
His greater Love in some small sorte to show.
(The inscription is now on the wall of the South Aisle).
474. By the South side of this is a stone worn rought and the Inscription almost gone, with the Coat of Arms: (Inscript) that there lies John BERRY Esq., who by God’s Providence lived in this Town of Lydd many years and performed all offices of Magistacy, was 26 years Captain of ye Trained Band, was born in the year of our Lord 1572. He had 7 children 4 Sons and 3 Daughters. He attained ye full age of 65 and peaceably concluded this life ye 7 of June 1637. (Mem: Plummer’s after this).
475. Beneath this is a stone with a brass figure of a man (there was a woman too but is now lost) and under them these words in Brass viz:
To pass by Death is common unto all
But so to dye as he may live againe
In greater Joy, thys onely doth befall
To those whome Faith doth lead with Xt. to reigne.
Ralfe WILLCOCKES and Sybill his Wiffe Ano Dni 1555. (His will is given in the Appendix).
476. There is a little stone at the north west corner of the former (Inscript) Under there lyeth buried John BERRY ye son of John Berrey of Lydd who died ye 26 of January 1595 or 93.
477. A little farther near the two lowest Pillars of the Church on the North side is a stone (Inscript) Here lieth buried the Body of William WILCOCKE late Jurat three tymes Baylie on this Towne of Lidd, who died the 23 daye of Januari 1626 aged 63 yeares. And there is another Inscription on the same stone below the former shewing that there lieth buried the Body of Wilcocke KNIGHT of Lidd, Gent., who died December the 9th 1670 aged 44 years.
478. On the North side of the last mentioned stone is another with the Inscription almost gone but seems to signifie notwithstanding that there Lies Joane BATE daughter of William WILCOCKE of Lydd, Jurate, and wife of Thomas Bate eldest son of Thomas Bate of Lydd, Jurate, who died the 30th day of May 1622 in the 28th year of her age and hath left a daughter called Joane (or daughters).
479. The next stone on the North between the two lowest Pillars shows that there Lieth buried the Bodi of Susan late wife of William WILLCOCKE who died the 29 day of June 1626 aged 53 and daughter of John BATEMAN Jurate.
B. Possible conclusions for a working theory:
1. John Berry, who died 22 Dec 1597, was born abt 1515 per age given on memorial. His brass effigy is between two unidentified women brass effigies, which probably represents two wives. The first was probably the widow Sybilla (Knatchbull) Wilcocks and the second Catherine (Godfrey). No burial date for the first wife and the second one dies in 1612 with a will that has not been seen yet. Another possibility is that John may have been had an earlier wife than Sybilla, but if so perhaps she died before his 1555 move to Lydd (or she died immediately after the move. Note the much older age of John than his last wife Catherine who was baptized 15 Sep 1544 (a 29 year age difference). Sybilla would have been probably about his same age.
2. John Berry above could be the father of Jeffrey Berry whose daughter Joan, bapt. 14 Feb 1565 in nearby Midley, married John Austen 1584 in Lydd. Ann Wilcox would be her mother since she and Jeffrey married 1563 in Lydd. If John Berry was the father, than Jeffrey would have been born before 1542 assuming he was at least 21 at the time of his marriage (or 1538 if one uses 25 as the age). John was born 1515 and would have been at least 21 when he would have had children which would recalculate Jeffrey's birth to no earlier than 1536. This than allows a reasonable birth for Jeffrey of between 1536 to 1542. Alternatively, Jeffrey could be a younger brother of John. Perhaps the wills of John and his wife Catherine, when finally found and transcribed may have some clues.
3. Apparently there is another younger Jeffrey who died young and only had one daughter Catherine per his 1587 will. He could be a son of either the John or the senior Jeffrey. He would have had to be born in 1564 if he were Jeffrey's son making a tight fit between the 15 Oct 1563 marriage date and the 14 Feb 1565 baptism date of Joane (it would work if Joane's actual baptism date was dual dated as 14 Feb 1565/6). He could also be John's son born either to Sybilla shortly after their 1555 marriage (while she was still of childbearing capablilty). Since we don't have a marriage date for John's second wife Catherine Godfrey, we would have to estimate she was at least 19 which would calculate as 1563 and again make a tight fit, but possible, for Jeffrey Jr. similar to if Jeffrey Sr. were his father. Not having Sybilla's death date, Catherine Godfrey's marriage date, or Jeffrey Jr.'s baptism date makes all of this speculative.
4. There is a second John (Jr.) who was born in 1572 per is memorial. He died 7 June 1637. I would assume him to be the son of John Sr. and Catherine Godfrey, but he could also be the son of Jeffrey Sr. and Anne Wilcox. Subject to further investigation, I am leaning to his father being John Sr. -- John would have been 57 but his wife Catherine would be 28. Catherine's 1612 will might clear this up.
5. The maid servants of Rafe Willcocks per his 1555 will (Constance and Joane) could be children of John Sr. and therefor sisters to Jeffrey Sr. or they may be sisters of John Sr.
6. There are some earlier wills for Berrys in near vicinity who may be related and finding and transcribing their wills will help.
7. Also there should be a will dated 1592 maybe probated circa 1597/8 for John Berry Sr. judging from the comments in the Capitalism book. This will appears to be critical to find.

2. Jeffry Berry is mentioned by name as the father on his daughter Joane's tomb in Horsmonden, which states Joane was born 14 Feb 1565 in Midley (next door to Lydd) and married in Lydd. Midley parish records no longer exist except for a couple pages of the Bishop's Transcripts. The Lydd parish records begin about 1570 and have the following entries:
- The 1584 marriage of Johan Berey to John Austen.
- A 27 Aug 1586 christening of Catherin -- dau. of Geffrey Berry.
- Jefery Berry chr. 24 Nov 1611 -- son of John Berry.
- John Berye chr 23 Nov 1595 -- son of John Berye.
Since we know Joane was born 1565 to Jeffry Berry, the 1586 christening of Catherin seems too late to be Joane's sister -- indeed we find the probate of a different Jeffrey Berry in 1587 in which only one daughter is named: Catherin. This would indicate that there were two sequential generations of Jeffreys with perhaps one being the father of the other.
John Berry is probably related since the name Jefery is used a generation later.
The next Berry records in Lydd are marriages in the mid-1750s.

2. FHL book 942.23/H3 K2c "St. Margaret's Church Horsmonden, An Historical and Descriptive Acccount," by Anthony Cronk, 3rd ed., by the Friends of Hrosmonden Church, Horsmonden, Kent, 1995, pp. 38-40:
"Side by side in the name of St. Margaret's are the graves of John Austen ad his wife. The brass of the latter consists of a charmng effigy of the lady in hat, ruff, and gown, 18 in. X 7 in., with a foot inscription 20-3/4 in. X 9-1/2 in., as follows:
"Here vnderlyeth the body of Joane Berry davghter of Ieffery Berry sometime of the parish of Midley and wyfe of Iohn Avsten of this pish of Horsmonden beinge of the age of 36 yeares who depted the 9th of Decemb: 1604 and left behind her 8 sones and one davghter vidz: Iohn Ieffry Beniamin Robt Ioane Francis Peter Thomas & Robid of wch two last she died in childbed often vtteringe these speaches let nether hvsband nor children nor lands nor goods separate me from the my God."
Above the effigy, the widower's engagingly oblique ascription:
Amice si quaeris tvmvlvm quis convecit ipsum
Fvit Iohannes mevs maritus nomine Austen."
John Austen's own brass on the adjoining grave has suffered from the traffic of many feet, but is still legible:
"Here lyeth the body of John Avsten bvryed the 5 day of March Ano Dni 1620 and left behind him 8 sonns and one davghter." ...
This was the family, let it be noted, from which sprang the immortal Jane [Austen, the writer] ..."

3. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Berry, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

MARRIAGE:
1. From the findmypast.com website:
Kent, East Kent marriage index 1538-1754 Transcription
First name(s): Ann
Last name: Wilcock
Residence: Lydd
Marriage year: 1563
Marriage date: 15 Oct 1563
Marriage place: Lydd
Spouse's first name(s): Jeff
Spouse's last name: Berry
Spouse's residence: Lydd
County: Kent
Country: England 
Berry, Jeffery (I4936)
 
4823 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In reviewing the christening entries for Haydon Bridge as I was working on Elizabeth Muse who married Joseph Burnhope, her 1761 christening is the only entry for a child of Michael of Elrington in the Haydon Bridge chapelry, or for that matter any other Michael between 1748 and 1804 (after which I stopped checking). Children of Michael occurring before 1748 all belong to the evidently separate Michael and Ann Bell of the following entry - Ancestry.com's "England and Wales Marriage Records, 1538-1940," marriage in Haydon, Northumberland of Michael Mewis and Ann Bell, 29 May 1732 and from my research their children seem to be pretty much all accounted for between 1732 to 1748. We definitely have two separate Michaels in the same parish at the same time. The burial records of Haydon Bridge also confirm this as does the christening record for Michael Muse in 1734.

2. Christenings from Haydon Bridge (FHL film 991796) for children of Michael Mewis:
-4 Jan 1732/1733, Mary, dau. of Michael Mewis of High house.
-29 Sep 1734, Michael, son of Michael Muis of Haydon Bridge.
-8 May 1737, Nicholas, son of Michael Mewis of Haydon Bridge.
-4 May 1740, Thomas, son of Michael Mewis of Haydon Bridge.
-23 Sep 1744, John, son of Michael Mewis of Dean Raw.
- 3 Apr 1748, Ann, dau. of Michael Mewis of Dean Raw.

CHRISTENING:
1. Christenings from Haydon Bridge (FHL film 991796) for children of Michael Mewis:
-4 Mar 1699/1700, Isabell, dau. of Michael Muis of Chester Wood. [The entry is written twice. On the bottom of one page it is very faint and basically unreadable following the date of 4 Mar of the previous entry with no day given specifically for Isabell - hence it should be 4 Mar as if it were dittoed. It was written again on the top of the next page as if the curate knew he done a bad job on the previous page, but it is with no day given. IGI extracted it as 5 Mar, but I see no number 5 with Isabell falling between 4 Mar and 6 Mar.]
-2 Feb 1700/1701, Isabel, dau. of Michael Mewis of Chesterwood.
-25 Apr 1703, Jno., son of Michael Muis of Chesterwood.
-24 Dec 1704, Catherine, dau. of Michael Muis of Chesterwood.
-18 Feb 1706/1707, Michael, son of Mich. Mewers of Haydon Bridge.
-27 Apr 1709, Tho., son of Michael Mewers of Haydon Bridge.
-25 Feb 1710/1711, Nicholas, son of Michael Muis of Haydon Bridge.
-20 Jan 1713/1714, Ann, daughter of Michael Mewis of Haydon Bridge.

MARRIAGE:
1. The marriage records for Haydon Bridge church (FHL film 991796): "29 May 1732, Michael Mewis and Ann Bell."

BURIAL:
1. Apparently there are two Michael Mewises in Haydon Bridge at one time as the following entries make clear from FHL film 991796, Haydon Bridge church burial records. The first two would be the parents-in-law for Margaret also shown below.
-"24 Feb 1772, Michael Mewis of Haydon Bridge."
-"Ann, widow of the late Michael Mewis of Haydon Bridge, bur. 23 Mar 1772."
-"Margaret, wife of Michael Mewis of Haydon Bridge, bur. 23 Apr 1773." (The 3 in 23 is disputable and may be a 0 to make 20.) 
Muis or Mewis, Michael (I4690)
 
4824 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In reviewing tithable records from 1681 on in Lawne's Creek Parish, Robert Savage shows up almost every year up to 1697. He died in 1698. A Mary Savage shows up for the first and only time in 1699 and then a widow Savage in 1701. It isn't proven, but this widow appears to be Mary who is probably the wife of the deceased Robert. The only other Savage to show up in this parish in the tithables from 1681 to 1701 besides Robert is Charles. There is no indication of a death of Charles in this time period. The Surry County VA Tithables in question:
1. "List taken 1697 Lawnes Creeke Parish (month & list taker not specified) By Wm Newsum: Jno Phillips & Jno. Phillips junr. 2, Robt. Craford 1, Mathew Swann 1, William Phillips 1. Side note: other names of interest on the list(s) of Wm Newsum include: Nichol. Sessams (Sessums) Cha: Savidge & Jno Baker next to Henry Baker & Hen. Baker Jr next to Robt. Savidge (Savage), John Drew, Jos: Wall, Antho: Evans, Wm: Newitt, John Cooker (Coker?) w/Wm. Cooker, Joseph Richardson."
2. "List taken June 1699 Lawnes Creek Parish By James Mason: Ruth Phillipps p Edward Emery 1, Timothy Thorpe, John Phillipps 2, Robert Crafford, Carter Crafford 2, Mathew Swann 1, Will Phillipps, Jer. Rogers 2. Side note: other names of interest on this list include: Mr. Wm. Newsum, Joseph Richardson, Charles Savage w/John Baker, John Drew, Wm. Newett, Nich. Sessums (Sessams), Mary Savage p Richd. Peke(?), Henry Baker, Jos: Wall Sr., Anthony Ewans (Evans)."
3. "List taken June 1701 Lawnes Creek Parish By Henry Tooker: John Cocker [Coker] 1, Joseph Thorpe, John Phillipps, Luke Marks, John Warre 4, Joseph Wall w/ Rich. Wall 2, Joseph Wall Jr. 1, Mathew Swann, John Harris 2, Nicho. Sessums, Fra:GoodChild, Tom a negr. 3, Joseph Richardson 1, Charles Savage 1, Robt. Crafford, Carter Crafford 1, Wm. Newitt, James Hodge, Tho: Lacy, Robin & Phillis negr. 5, William Phillipps F.W. [sic] 2, Widdow Savage p Tho: Barrow, Antho: Evans 1."

2. The book "Wills and Administrations of Surry County, Virginia, 1671-1750," by Eliza Timberlake Davis, p. 114:
"SAVIDGE, Robert: Leg. To wife, (Mary Savidge) my dwelling place, 265 acres, and at her death to son, Charles Savidge. Mentions son, Lovelis Savidge. Daughter, Olive Andrews, household goods, cattle, etc. Mary Savidge, Exerx. Made: 17 March, 1697/8. Prob.: 3 May, 1698. Book 5, p. 155. 
Mary (I4440)
 
4825 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In several early instances his surname appears as McDonald, but later in Utah is was standardized to McDaniel. The first name of John Riley is incorrect. John Riley McDaniel was his son.

2. Censuses:
1830 US: Bloomfield, Jackson, Ohio, p. 1 of 8 (Note: that index indicates "Burdine," but looking carefully at the actual image, it is "Burdino".):
Charles Burdine, males: 1:5-10(Nehemiah Beirdneau), 1:10-15(William McDaniel), 1:15-20(John McDaniel), 1:20-30(uncertain identity), 1:60-70(Charles Birdino); females: 1:0-5 (Elizabeth Beirdneau), 1:20-30(Jane McDaniel), 1:40-50(Zibiah)

1840 US: Quincy, Adams, Illinois, the following related families living in near proximity to each other (with exception of John McDaniel and his wife Christina Stoker, all of David Stoker's siblings, children, and mother are accounted for and it confirms his father Michael was dead by 1840):
P. 43a:
David Stoker, males 5-10:1; 40-50:1//females 5-10:1; 10-15:1; 40-50:1. [David, his wife Barbara, and their children Sarah (13), Catherine (11?), and Michael (6). Note daughter Nancy not in census which means she was probably deceased by then.]
Simeon P. Grabell [Graybill], males 0-5:1; 20-30:1//females 0-5:1; 20-30:1. [David's nephew: Simeon and his wife Amanda Hill and their two oldest children.]
Jacob Stoker, males 20-30:1//females 0-5:1; 20-30:1. [Younger brother to David: Jacob and his wife Catherine and their oldest child.]
P. 44a:
Eller Stoker, males 20-30:1//females 0-5:1; 15-20:1; 60-70:1. [Youngest brother to David: Eller with his wife Margaret and their oldest child and probably their mother Catherine Eller.]
James Walker [Welker], males 10-15:1; 15-20:1; 30-40:1//females 5-10:2; 40-50:1. [Living next door to Eller and ages work perfectly that this is James Welker and Elizabeth Stoker, who is David's sister.]
John W. Stoker, males 0-5:2; 10-15:1; 30-40:1//females 0-5:1; 5-10:2; 30-40:1. [John and his wife Electa Sarah and their six oldest children.]
John Stoker, males 0-5:1; 20-30:1//females 0-5:1; 5-10:2; 20-30:1. [David's son: John and his wife Jane and their children.]
P. 52a:
William Stoker, males 0-5:1; 20-30:1//females 20-30:1 (father-in-law Samuel Winegar is next door). [David's son William and his wife Almira with their child.]
P. 55a:
Michael Stoker, males 0-5:2; 5-10:2; 10-15:1; 30-40:1// females 30-40:1. [Michael, his wife Martha, and their five oldest children.]

1860 US: Alpine, Utah, Utah, 2 Oct 1860, p. 5 of 5, 3634/2843:
Jno. McDonal, 48, farmer, $200, $600, OH.
Sarah A., 22, NY.
Geo. W., 15, IL.
Jas. 14, IA.
Davd, 12, IA.

1870 US: Alpine, Utah, Utah, 1 Sep 1870, p. 2 of 6, house/family 14/14 (next door is John R. McDaniel, 33, OH and his family):
John McDaniel, 57, farmer, $300, $300, OH.
Sarah, 30, NY.
Sarah, 11, UT.
Christina, 9, UT.
Elizabeth, 8, UT.
John, 6, UT.
Martha, 4, UT.
Anderson, 2, UT.

1880 US Alpine, Utah, Utah, FHL film 1255338, National Archives Film T9-1338, p. 251C:
John McDaniel, occupation: farmer, age 66, married, birthplace: OH.
Sarah McDaniel, occ.: keeping house, age 40, birthplace: NY, MI, NY.
Several children of second wife also noted from ages 1 through 16 all born in Utah.

2. The book "The Henry McDaniel family, 1755-1975," by Esta McDaniel Lee, 1975, FHL 929.273 M141L, p. 82: "Other McDaniels of Gallia and Jackson Counties, Ohio. David McDaniel, b. ca. 1738 m. 5 March, 1801, Elizabeth (Betsy) McCarley in Washington County, Ohio. Gallia County was a part of Washington Coound [county] at that time. David McDanieal was in Ohio long before it became a state for a son James McDaniel was born in what is now Jackson County, 24 Feb. 1762. He married 19 Dec 1805 Zebiah (Sibby) McCarley, b. 10 Dec 1786, Gallia County, Ohio, daughter of John McCarley. She died 5 Feb 1860. James died in Jackson County, 1820. They had the following children:
1. Sarah McDaniel, b. 26 May 1806, Raccoon Twp., Gallia Co., O., d. 7 Mar 1857, m. John W. Stoker, 13 Mar 1827.
2. Martha McDaniel, b. 24 Feb 1808, Raccoon Twp., Gallia Co., O., d. 4 Feb 1877, m. 1828/29 Michael Stoker.
3. Jane McDaniel, 24 Feb 1810, Raccoon Twp., Gallia Co., O., d. 20 Jan 1890, in Bountiful, Utah, m. 1836, John Stoker.
4. John McDaniel, b. 10 Jun 1812, Jackson Co., O., d. 11 Nov 1884, Alpine, Utah, m. Christina Stoker.
5. William McDaniel, b. 1814, Jackson Co., O., d. 1889 unmarried.
There could have been others."
Page 83: "Jackson County Marriage Records. C.D. Massie:
19 Apr 1827 Electa Sally McDaniel to John W. Stoker."

BIOGRAPHY:
1. Biography in FHL book 979.036 v.2 "Pioneer Women of Faith and Fortitude," Daughters of Utah Pioneers, p. 1933: "Christina Stoker McDaniel; photo included; born 24 Aug 1815 at Bloomfield, Jackson, Ohio; died 10 May 1854 at Mountainville (Alpine), Utah; parents are David Stoker, Sr. and Barbara Graybill; pioneer of 28 Aug 1852 with the Isaac Stewart Company Oxteam and Wagon Train; spouse is John McDaniel; married 8 Feb 1835 in Ohio; death of spouse was 11 Nov 1884 in Alpine, Utah; Children:
Electa Jane, 3 Nov 1835
Tabitha, 29 Jan 1837
John Riley, 20 May 1839
Matilda, 24 Oct 1840
Katherine, 24 Jul 1842
George Washington, 25 Jul 1844
James William, 13 Sep 1847
David Stoker, 18 Apr 1849
Silvester, 26 Apr 1854
Christina was born 24 Aug 1815 at Bloomfield township, Jackson, Ohio. She was the eldest of seven children born to David Stoker, Sr., and Barbara Graybill. On 8 Feb 1835 she married John McDaniel. They lived in Ohio during their early married life, and it was here they first heard of the Mormon Church and were among the first people to join. They later moved to Hancock Co., Illinois. They were greatly persecuted, along with the other Saints, and were driven out of their home several times by mobs. On one occasion they were forced to flee their home, both with a child under each arm, and watch while the home was destroyed by fire. John was a bodyguard of the Prophet Joseph Smith, and was captured by the mob before Joseph and Huyrm. They knew he was a good friend and also a very good shot. He was missing for three days and was found tied up and gagged in a corral way out of town, in manure up to his knees. They left Illinois with the other Saints and moved to Iowa, and from there crossed the plains by ox-team in 1852. By then Christine had eight children. She helped her husband and older children drive a flock of 500 sheep across the plains. They stopped at Salt Lake for a short time, then went on to Mountainville, now Alpine, where they were one of the first families to settle. Here they endured many privations of early pioneer life, at one point going without bread for three months. During that time they lived on roots and wild berries with the meat her husband provided by hunting game. Christine died two years after moving to Mountainville from the complications of child birth, leaving the new-born infant in the care of her older children until the father remarried. Christine was a beautiful woman with red hair, pleasing good looks, and a serene countenance."

2. The book "Mormon Redress Petitions, Documents of the 1833-1838 Missouri Conflict," edited by Clark V. Johnson, contains a copy of the "Scroll Petition" dated 28 Nov 1843 at Nauvoo, IL addressed to the U.S. Congress by members of the LDS Church who had property destroyed by Missouri mobs in the 1830's. Included with over a couple thousand signatures is John McDaniels.

3. The following is a partial quote from an article entitled: "The Michael and Catherine Eller Stoker family as early Mormons in Ohio and Missouri," by Jimmie "B" Stoker, November 24, 1993, as reprinted in the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT. See the notes of Michael Stoker (1762-1838) for the full transcript of this article:
"The Stokers join the LDS Church.
Mormon missionaries come.
During the fall of 1833 Michael Stoker (1762-1838) and his family, living in Bloomfield Township, Jackson County, Ohio first heard the preaching of the missionaries from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. These missionaries exhorted them to join the new church and told them about Joseph Smith receiving inspired revelations from God. In addition the Church was noted for its new scripture, the Book of Mormon.
The Stokers were drawn to the message. Many accepted baptism before the end of 1833. They included sixteen-year-old John Stoker (1817-1881) who was baptized November 13, 1833 by Seymour Brunson(1) and four days later his double cousin, fifteen-year-old Joseph Levi Graybill, who was baptized by John A. Fisher.(2) These two grandsons of Michael Stoker (1762-1838) were among the first of the Stoker family to embrace the new church.
In 1834 Seymour Brunson moved his family to Bloomfield and organized a branch of the Church.(3) John's parents, David (1795-1852) and Barbara Graybill Stoker, joined the branch during that year. David's younger brother, Michael, Jr., (1805-1858) was affiliated with the Mormons. Evidence of his affiliation with the church comes from the fact that his son, born on July 10, 1834 was named, "William Moroni." Clearly the name Moroni marked Michael as having read the Book of Mormon. Moreover, in his journal Michael, Jr., writes, "The names of the members who were baptized by me in February, 1836. Baptized James Toinbuson and ordained him an elder." He also baptized William and Barbara Stoker that year.(4) Michael held the Mormon priesthood to officiate in these ordinances. The Stokers and their relatives were very enthusiastic about their new church. They contributed to its growth and sustained its leadership.
The McDaniel connection.
The children and grandchildren of Michael Stoker (1762-1838) had an affinity to marry the children of James McDaniel and Zibiah McCarley, neighbors in Jackson County. John W. Stoker (1802-1857) married Electa Sarah McDaniel (1806-1857) on April 19, 1827. Michael Stoker, Jr., (1805-1858) married her sister, Martha Carr McDaniel, on Jan 1, 1829. A grandson, John Stoker (1817-1881), and a granddaughter, Christine Stoker (1815-1854), children of David Stoker (1795-1852), married Jane McDaniel (1810-1890) on January 21, 1836 and John Riley McDaniel on February 8, 1835. Nineteen-year-old John, in addition to marrying Jane, also adopted her son, Alma. Family tradition says that Alma's father would not consider joining the LDS church so Jane left him. About a month after her son's birth, Jane married John Stoker, the nephew of her two brothers-in-law.
The Kirtland Temple is dedicated.
In the spring of 1836, some members of the Bloomfield branch made the 200 mile trip north to Kirtland, Ohio to attend the dedication of the temple. In that group was Michael Stoker's son-in-law and grandson, Michael Graybill, Sr., and Joseph Levi Graybill. Michael Graybill's wife, Polly Stoker (1792-1864), was expecting the birth of her eleventh Child, a son who was born April 6, 1836. She didn't go with them. Michael Graybill while at the conference and temple dedication at Kirtland was impressed by Sidney Rigdon's two and a half hour sermon. Upon returning to Bloomfield, he named his newly born son, Sidney Rigdon Graybill.(5)
Picture p. 3: "Barbara Graybill and her son, John Stoker."
Footnotes
1. "The Life of John Stoker," compiled by Eunice Stoker Southwick
2. "Early Members of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," Vol. III G.K. compiled by Susan Easton Black. Provo: Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, 1993. p. 149.
3. "Seymour Brunson," LDS Biographical Encyclopedia Vol. 3 compiled by Andrew Jenson. Salt Lake City: Andrew Jenson History Co., 1901. p. 331.
4. "The Howard, Leytham, Stoker, Von Dollen Family Histories and including the Bell, Teeple, Mackland, Bardsley, Graybill, Eller, Dick, Oman, Smith, and Koons Families," compiled by Doris Lewis, 2017 So. 80th Avenue, Omaha, Nebraska 68124. p. 92.
5. Vivian Graybill, "Michael Graybill, Sr." Typescript sent to Jim Stoker by Alice Graybill Russell, 6120 Wincanton Dr., Shreveport, LA 71129 on October 6, 1993."

4. The following is a partial quote from an article entitled: "The Michael and Catherine Eller Stoker family as early Mormons in Ohio and Missouri," by Jimmie "B" Stoker, November 24, 1993, as reprinted in the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT. See the notes of Michael Stoker (1762-1838) for the full transcript of this article:
"The following members of Michael Stoker's family attached their names to a petition in 1843 that they had lived in Missouri and had been driven from their state:(21)
David Stoker [Michael's son David (1795-1852)], John Stoker [possibly David's son, John (1817-1881) or Michael's son, John W. (1803-1857)], John McDaniels (1812-1884) [David's son-in-law, husband of his oldest daughter, Christine (1815-1854)], Elles Stoker (1816-1855) [Eller, Michael's youngest son], Mary Stoker (1822-1890) [probably Margaret Judd, Eller's wife]. Catharine Stoker (1773-after 1850) [Michael's wife, Catharine Eller], Jacob Stoker (1812-1893) [Michael's son], Catharine Stoker [Catharine Burcham, Jacob's wife], John Stoker (1803-1857) [Michael's son, John W. Stoker], Sarah Stoker (1806-1857) [John W. Stoker's wife, Electa Sarah McDaniel].
Geo. Graybill (1821-?) [Michael's grandson, George Washington Graybill, son of Polly Mary Stoker (1792-1864)], Michael Stoker (1805-1858) [Michael's son], Martha Stoker (1808-1873) [Martha Carr McDaniel, wife of Michael's son, Michael], Gabrael Stoker (1832-1852) [Michael's grandson, son of Michael (1805-1858)], William Stoker (1819-1892) [Michael's grandson, son of David], Almira Stoker (1818-1884) [Michael's granddaughter-in-law, grandson, William's wife, Almira Winegar], Samuel D. Stoker (1840-1908) [Michael's great-grandson, son of William and Almira], William Stoker (1842-1906) [Michael's great-grandson, son of William and Almira].
Mary Graybill [possibly Michael's daughter, Polly Mary Stoker (1792-1864) or his granddaughter, Mary Ann Graybill (1830-?)], William Graybill (1825-1880) [Michael's grandson, son of Polly Mary Stoker], Adam Graybill [still looking for this relationship to Michael], Sidney R Graybill (1836-?) [Michael's grandson, son of Polly Mary Stoker], Levi Graybill (1818-1912) [Michael's grandson, son of Polly Mary Stoker], Patience Graybill (1825-1895) [Patience Smith, Michael's granddaughter-in-law, wife of Joseph Levi Graybill (1818-1912)], Mary Graybill [possibly Michael's daughter, Polly Mary Stoker (1792-1864), or his granddaughter, Mary Ann Graybill (1830-?), Polly's daughter].
John Stoker (1817-1881) [Michael's grandson, son of David], Jane Stoker (1810-1890) [Michael's granddaughter-in-law, Jane McDaniel, wife of John (1817-1881)], Hannah Graybill [Michael's great granddaughter, daughter of Joseph Levi Graybill], Hyrum Stoker (1840-1887) [Michael's great grandson, son of John Stoker (1817-1881) and Jane McDaniel], Alma Stoker (1835-1897) [Michael's adopted great grandson, son of Jane McDaniel], and Franklin Stoker (1842-1855) [Michael's great grandson, son of John Stoker (1817-1881)]. Lucinda Stoker is also listed on the petition but cannot establish a relationship to Michael Stoker (1762-1838).(22)
Refuge found in Illinois.
The people of Quincy reached out to help the Mormons fleeing from Missouri. Elizabeth Haven Barlow writes, "The people of Quincy had contributed between four and five hundred dollars for the poor Mormons. God had opened their hearts to receive us. May heaven's blessings rest upon them. We are hungry and they feed us, naked and clothed us. The citizens have assisted beyond all calculations."(23)
Footnotes
21. Also included are some of their children who were born after 1838 in Illinois.
22. "Mormon Redress Petitions," pp. 574, 598, 599-601.
23. Elizabeth Haven Barlow in letter to Elizabeth Howel Bullard, 24 February 1839, published in Ora H. Barlow, "The Israel Barlow Story and Mormon Mores." Salt Lake City: Ora H. Barlow, 1968."

5. Partial transcription from an article entitled "Michael Stoker and Catherine Eller." from the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT. See notes of Michael Stoker for full transcription of this article:
"During the Adams County time period some of the Stoker men found work with a farmer named Coleman Wilkes. Mr. Wilkes lived approximately two miles southeast of Columbus, Ohio. He had first offered work and a home to Elizabeth's husband, James Welker, and soon after David, John W., Michael, and Jacob also obtained work with him. Here they labored diligently trying to earn enough to rebuild their supplies and stock which they had lost during the Missouri struggles.
Moving to Bear Creek, Hancock Co., Illinois
On July 1, 1839 the Mormon church's prophet and leader, Joseph Smith, called for all church members to settle in and around the Commerce, Illinois area. The town of Commerce was renamed by the church members to Nauvoo. In 1842 the Stoker family had complied. Packing up their belongings they moved north settling their families around the Carthage/Bear Creek area. James Welker's son, John, recorded: "...he found that there was land that could be entered in Hancock County, about 15 miles south of Nauvoo. He moved there and filed on a homestead. Part of it was prairie land and part was timber. He built a large hewed two roomed log house. Then the next thing was to fence and make a farm to make a living off of" (Ibid).
The 1842 personal property tax assessment book of Hancock County has records for Stoker, Welker, and Graybill families living within the county. These records indicate the possibility that they lived outside of the cities."
Building the Nauvoo Temple
The Stoker families were on hand for the building of the temple for their church. It is recorded in the church history that Eller Stoker, Jacob Stoker, and John McDaniel (husband to Christine Stoker) worked on the temple for a period of time. All families were expected to donate time and supplies to the temple project...
Life was beginning to flourish again for the families, and happy times were with them. On May 23, 1844 Joseph Levi Graybill, Eller Stoker, and Michael Stoker were initiated and passed into the Nauvoo Lodge of Masons. Two weeks later Levi Graybill, Eller Stoker, and Michael Stoker became lodge members, and on June 8th they were raised to Master Masons. While in Illinois, John Stoker, John W. Stoker, John Welker, Eller Stoker, and Jacob Stoker were given church callings of Office of the Seventy.
Death of Joseph and Hyrum Smith
Living around Carthage the Stoker, Graybill, and McDaniel families were homesteading lands close to those who most violently disagreed with the Mormons and who were constantly calling for their removal. Sometimes these men formed their own vigilante groups trying to scare the Mormons into leaving. Some of the Stoker men folk were called into military duty within the State Militia as recorded in the history of John McDaniel.
"Early on June 24, Joseph and Hyrum Smith, John Taylor, and fifteen other members of the Nauvoo city council headed to Carthage to answer the charges filed against them. They passed the home of William Stoker located six miles southeast of Nauvoo on the Carthage Road before 8 A.M.... Sometime after noon, the Stokers saw the mounted riders traveling toward Nauvoo. Arriving at their destination at 2:30, the leaders gathered three small cannons and about two hundred firearms which were turned over to the militia. At nearly midnight the militia delivered the Mormon leaders who came voluntarily to the authorities in Carthage... Thursday June 27 Joseph and his brother Hyrum, were martyred. A mob of about one hundred men with blackened faces gathered about five 'clock in the afternoon. Several stormed the jail where the Smith brothers and a few friends were sequestered. Joseph and Hyrum were shot dead, and John Taylor wounded...the assassins and their comrades fled Carthage to Warsaw and then sought refuge west of the MIssissippi River... Friday June 28, with the bodies of the slain leaders placed in two different wagons, covered with branches to shade them from the hot sun, Willard Richards, Samuel Smith, and Artois Hamilton pulled out of Carthage and headed for Nauvoo. Sometimes shortly after noon, the procession with eight soldiers passed by William Stoker's driving teams pulling the two wagons containing the bodies of the martyrs. Mary Stoker Aitken, a granddaughter of WIlliam Stoker and Almira Winegar, wrote, "My father [John Stephen Stoker] told us that his parents had told him that they had seen the bodies of the Prophet and his brother Hyrum Smith, being taken from Carthage to Nauvoo." ...One of the Stoker relative's narrative mentions that "After the deaths of Joseph and Hyrum in 1844, Simeon Graybill went up to Nauvoo to help guard the secretly hidden bodies of Joseph and Hyrum. Fearful the anti-Mormon mob might try to do further violence to Joseph and Hyrum's bodies, their caskets were filled with sand for public burial" (Ibid).
Conflict/Harassment Again.
In 1845 the mobbing and burnings began, starting with the outlying settlements. The Stokers were living within the church area called the Highland branch of Illinois. The babies, weddings, and all manner of social life continued on and in July the families were doing more temple work for their ancestors. Again the families grew; new events were attended to. Jacob and John Stoker also joined the Masons and were later raised to Master Masons.
Sheriff of Hancock County ordered the saints to organize and protect themselves. "John Welker tells how he and his cousins mutually watched out for each other. His account follows: 'The mob (against) the Latter-day Saints was increasing and I but a boy of 18 was the oldest of the boys that was at hoe. My oldest brother was married and doing for himself. I was the one to look after the family after my father died and when the burning out of the later day Saints by the mob commenced close by I was in a settlement 10 miles for whare {sic} they were burning houses and some of my cousins and relative lived close to whare {sic} I lived. We got together and agreed to take turnes {sic} and watch the mob and do the best we could to protect our homes. Some one was out every night watching their movements. They did not come to our little settlement to burn us out, if they had come some of them would have been hurt. Thare {sic} is many things connected with this I will not write.' (Punctuation added.)
Not all of the Stoker relatives were as fortunate as the Welkers, John McDaniel and his wife Christine Stoker, according to one history, "...were greatly persecuted with the other saints and several times were driven out by the mobs. On one occasion they were attacked and forced to flee with a child under each arm while their home was burned" (Ibid).
Nauvoo Temple Dedicated.
In late 1845 the church's Nauvoo Temple was dedicated and many of the saints came to the temple to perform their own religious (endowment) ordinances. Between January 5 and January 21, of 1846 sixteen heads of the Stoker clan had received their own temple endowment.
Michael Stoker Jr. and Catherine Burcham
Jacob Stoker and Martha Carr McDaniel
Eller Stoker and Margaret Judd
Catherine Eller Stoker (widow)
Elizabeth Stoker Welker (widow)
James W. Welker and Anna Pugh
John Stoker and Jane McDaniel
John W. Stoker and Sara McDaniel
William Stoker and Almira Winegar
Records from the Nauvoo temple show that the Stoker family participated in other religious temple activities: Catherine Eller Stoker, Michael Stoker (son), Eller Stoker (son) and wife Margaret (Judd) Stoker (Eller's wife), James Welker and wife Elizabeth Stoker Welker, and Mary (Polly) Stoker (Graybill) all did baptisms by proxy for their deceased relatives."

6. The following is a partial quote from an article entitled: "John Stoker (1817-1881) and Wives: Jane McDaniel, Harriet Susan Willis, and Jane Allen" in the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT." See John's notes for full transcription:
"After the first Mormon expedition pushed through the Rocky Mountains to settle in the Utah territory, President Young and some of his members returned to Winter Quarters during the winter of 1847-48 and began organizing more wagon parties to head west as soon as the snows allowed. During this period President Young organized the chain of command for large groups of travelers. First Heber J. Grant and Wilford Woodruff were each to organize a company. Under their direction leaders would be chosen to govern groups of hundreds, fifties, and then tens.
Families under Brigham Young's supervision were separated into three divisions with numerous companies in each division.
Here Lorenzo Snow was again appointed to be a captain over a hundred families. He in turn selected John Stoker and Herman Hyde to be his two captains, each of them were over a group of fifty families that were then grouped by tens.
In addition to the general instructions to keep order in the camps, President Young passed on additional orders gained from the first companies experiences west: take care of the cattle- do not allow them to be abused, there is to be no yelling nor brawling in camp, attend prayers, put out the fires, and go to bed by 9 p.m.
Lorenzo Snow's company: 99 Wagons, 321 people, 20 horses, 3 mules, 308 oxen, 188 cows, 38 loose cattle, 25 pigs, 158 chickens, 10 cats, 26 dogs, and 2 doves (Barlow 1968).
John and Jane with their family left Kanesville early in the summer of 1848. Records indicate that John's mother and siblings, along with some other Stoker families came west in 1852 under the direction of Captain Isaac Stewart. Within the listed names of the Stewart's Second group of ten are: William Stoker's family, Michael Stoker's family and John McDaniel's family. The names of the individuals within the families were not listed (Church Historical Dept.).
Instructions were then given the saints, who had been divided. Thomas Bullock, clerk of the "Camp of Israel," stated that: "On the 1st day of June, Lorenzo Snow's company moved off the ground to the 'Liberty Pole' on the Platte, in order to make room for other wagons that came pouring in from Winter Quarters. (Roberts 1965).
Liberty Pole camp was located on the Elkhorn River in Nebraska.
In his autobiography, George Morris relates a memorable incident he had during their journey west. His family was assigned to travel under the leadership of John Stoker.
"I thought that I had about overcome the spirit of swearing again, until one day after we had traveled some distance on our way towards the valley. Brother Lorenzo Snow was captain of the hundred, John Stoker of 50, Thomas McLellin of the 10, that I traveled with. We were crossing a bad, miry, creek and the captains were the first wagon and the last one in the line. The captain had made a little miscalculation and stopped his team a little too soon so that there was not room for me to drive out on the bank, so I was stopped down in the mire. The captain was standing on the bank to see us out when I ripped out a terrible oath at him for not allowing me room to get out, it was a terrible oath to be sure. In that same award manner in which I had been to swear before, it was all like a streak of fire and brimstone than anything else. I looked and there sat Brother Snow in his buggy on the bank watching the teams cross, he gave me such a look and the captain that I had swarn at stood there looking right at me but neither of them spoke a word to me. They didn't need to for the look they had given me were quite sufficient. They left me and passed on. When I had got out and cooled down I felt fearful mean but they didn't hear anymore swearing from me" (Morris 1995).
After leaving Liberty Pole for Utah the company was delayed many times during their journey for the purpose of building bridges, rafts, etc., to help the journey of the other saints coming later.
Picture p. 12: "Trail Map of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints western migration. Trail begins at Nauvoo, Illinois and ends at Salt Lake City, Utah. Ensign, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 1997."
Salt Lake City:
Lorenzo Snow's company arrived in Salt Lake City on 24 September 1848. With the arrival of President Brigham Young's three divisions of church members, the total number of people in the Salt Lake valley had grown to 5000. So many people arrived in Utah that by the fall of 1848 the one block size fort had three additions equaling two forts. One facing north side and one facing south, the two connected by gates.
When the first company of Mormons reached Utah, besides attending to farming, they built a Fort to shelter the incoming families. As the members would arrive President Young would have them stay only as long as they needed to gather strength, and then he would assign them an area outside Salt Lake City to settle.
It is recorded that by the time the companies arrived in the Utah valley their clothing was pretty well gone.
"Many were without shoes, and the best and only covering they could get for their feet were moccasins. Their clothing, too, was pretty well exhausted, and the goat, deer, and elk skins which they could procure were most acceptable for clothing, though far from pleasant to wear in rain or snow" (Cannon)."

7. The following partial excerpt is from the article "Michael and Catherine Eller Stoker's Descendants in Illinois" by Jimmie "B" Stoker, July 30, 1994 from the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT, The numbers in the text refer to endnotes at the end of the article. See Catherine Martha Eller's notes for the full and complete transcript which is quite lengthy and only deals with her children in the Illinois period of Mormon history:
"Each member of the church was expected to contribute one-tenth of all his increase from that time until the temple was completed. Often the able-bodied men would donate one day in ten as tithing labor. According to a letter from James Kimball, an LDS church history librarian, records show that Eller and Jacob Stoker worked for an unknown length of time or occupation on this temple project.21 John McDaniel, Christine Stoker's husband, also worked on the Nauvoo temple.22 It's reasonable to believe that many more of the Stoker men put in time working on the Nauvoo temple. Probably many of the Stoker women donated their goods to that cause as well."

8. The following partial excerpt is from the article "Michael and Catherine Eller Stoker's Descendants in Illinois" by Jimmie "B" Stoker, July 30, 1994 from the book "Our Stoker Family Histories 1731-1881," Vol. II, comp. and ed. by Elayne Stoker, 2004, printed by Stevenson's Genealogy Center, Provo, UT, The numbers in the text refer to endnotes at the end of the article. See Catherine Martha Eller's notes for the full and complete transcript which is quite lengthy and only deals with her children in the Illinois period of Mormon history:
"Many of the Stokers probably were mustered into the Nauvoo Legion. It was part of every frontier community to take seriously the obligation to serve in the militia. The Nauvoo Legion, although created by the Nauvoo charter, was in reality a part of the state militia. For the men living in and near Nauvoo, there was no question about where their allegiance lay. As can be seen, often the Mormons living near Carthage or Warsaw were often approached to serving in other military groups being formed to attack the Mormons. Evidence of the Stokers participating in the Nauvoo Legion comes from a John McDaniel history55 which indicated that "one night John rode forty miles to Joseph Smith who with about 100 men in uniform went out to meet a mob that was after the saints. When they neared the mob, Joseph Smith raised his sword above his head and said, 'Halt.' The mob fled in all directions. When asked by some later why they had fled from such a few men, the mob replied, 'We could see soldiers everywhere.'"56"

9. FHL book 929.273 St67d "Descendants of William Stoker (1819-1892): with a View of his Ancestors," by Jay and Rachel Phillips Deeben, Feb. 2014, pp. 26-31:
"Christina Stoker[23] (1815-1854), by Jay Deeben.
Christina Stoker, daughter of David Stoker and Barbara Graybill, was born on 24 Aug 1815 in Bloomfield, Scioto,[24] Ohio. During our research of Christina we found that her name was also listed at times as Christine. The name of Christina has been followed here since that is the name that was placed on her headstone. One place where Christine was used was on the list of pioneers that made up the
Isaac Stewart Company which left Kanesville, Iowa in June 1852 and arrived in Salt Lake in September 1852.
She joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1833,[25] with other members of her family. She lived through all the persecution that was put upon the church while they were in Missouri and Illinois. When Christina and John started west they stopped at Mount Pisgah, Iowa[26] which was established to be a temporary way station for LDS church members as they fled Nauvoo, Illinois and the persecution that was going on there. Christina and her family stayed here till about 1851 or 1852. Mt. Pisgah, Iowa was shut down in 1852 by church leaders when they requested all the LDS to come to Utah.
[Image of Marriage License Jackson County, Ohio, from US/CAN Film 317,419, which reads: John McDaniel to Christina Stucker Feby. 7, 1836. I do hereby certify that by virtue of a License from the Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for Jackson County I have solemnized the right of Marriage between John McDaniels & christena Stoker on the 8 Day of Feby. 1835 as witnessed [unreadable] 1835 [unreadable witness]."
Christina married John Riley McDaniel, son of James McDaniel and Zebiah McCarley, on 7 Feb 1835 in
Jackson County, Ohio.[27] [Kerry's note: The license is dated 7 Feb but the marriage is dated 8 Feb.] John was born on 10 Jul 1812 in Bloomfield Twp., Scioto County, Ohio.[28]
After being married 19 years, having nine children and traveling many miles Christina died the 10 May 1854 in Alpine, Utah.[29] She was the first to be buried in Alpine. Her daughter Electa Jane was next.
The names of several of Christina's grandchildren who died young and are buried here are also given on the headstone.
John McDaniel died on 11 Nov 1884 in Alpine, Utah, Utah[30] at age 77, and was buried on 15 Nov 1884 in Alpine, Utah, Utah.
Children of John McDaniel and Christina Stoker McDaniel[31] (Name - Birth - Place - Death - Place):
Electa Jane McDaniel, 3 Nov 1835, Jackson County, Ohio, 8 Jun 1858. Electa married James Eli Ashcraft" the son of Benjamin Ashcraft and Nancy Owens." James was born 15 Feb 1828 in Montgomery County, Kentucky.
Tabitha McDaniel[34], 29 Jan 1837, Jackson County, Ohio, 11 Dec 1920, Nephi, Juab, Utah. Tabitha married William David Norton[35] son of John Warren Norton and Dorothy Osborn. William was born on 2 May 1832 in Limestone County, Alabama[36].
John Riley McDaniel, 20 May 1839, Adams County, Illinois, 21 Jul 1909, Alpine, Utah, Utah. John married Sarah Ann Watkins[37] she is the daughter of Robert James Watkins and Mary Smallman. Sarah was born 8 Jan 1847 in Missouri.
Matilda McDaniel, 24 Oct 1840, Adams County, Illinois, 24 Aug 1878[38], Alpine, Utah, Utah. Matilda married Thomas Jefferson McCullough[39] son of Thomas McCullough and Mary Hefner. Thomas was born 18 Aug 1826 in White County, Tennessee.
Catherine McDaniel[40], 24 Jul 1842, Hancock County, Illinois, 11 Aug 1923, Payson, Utah, Utah. Catherine married Alma Winn[41] son of Minor Winn and Nancy Wilson. Alma was born 4 Apr 1836 in Albion, Edwards, Illinois.
George Washington McDaniel[42], 25 Jul 1844, Hancock County, Illinois, 9 Nov 1916, Alpine, Utah, Utah. George married Mary Jane Taylor[43] daughter of William Taylor and Mary Ann Dean. Mary Jane was born 9 Nov 1850 in Birmingham, Warwick, England.
James William McDaniel, 13 Sep 1847, Mt Pisgah, Union, Iowa[44], 19 Jan 1947, Bloomfield, San Juan, New Mexico. James married Lovina Mantle[45] daughter of Llwellyn Mantle and Catherine Watkins. Lovina was born 20 Apr 1856 in West Jordan, Salt Lake, Utah.
David Stoker McDaniel, 18 Apr 1849, Mt Pisgah, Union, Iowa, 3 Oct 1912, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah. David married Sarah Ann Clark[46] daughter of George Clark and Catherine Gascoigne. Sarah was born 9 Dec 1853 in Selston, Nottingham, England.
Michael Sylvester McDaniel, 26 Apr 1854, Alpine, Utah, Utah, 10 Sep 1921, Tetonia, Teton, Idaho. Michael married Emma Dorothea Beck" daughter of Fredrick Beck and Henricke Winters. Emma was born 28 Jul 1857 in Vor Frue, Aalborg, Denmark.
Chapter notes for Christina Stoker:
23. Hook, James W., George Michael Eller and Descendants of His in America, p.100. Repository:
Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA, Call Number: 929.273 EL54h. Reference to the translated record of the German Reform Church of Frederick, Maryland at the Genealogical Society of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City, Utah. Book is online at Heritagequest.com under the "Search Books" option from main menu.
24. Jackson County, Ohio was formed from Scioto, Gallia, Athens, and Ross counties in 1816. Any
births occurring prior to 1816 would have been in one of the parent counties from which Jackson
was formed. The township of Jackson was part of the Scioto County prior to being taken into
Jackson County in 1816. Goldbug software, Animap, version 2.6.
25. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, new.Familysearch.org , Family History
Department, PID: KWJY-VZ6. Repository: new.familysearch.org , LDS Church, Salt Lake City,
Utah.
26. In 1846 Mormons established a way station named Mt. Pisgah on the western side of Clarke
County in an area that eventually became the eastern side of Union County. This was the temporary home of thousands of Mormons as they traveled west. The last Mormon left in 1852. Website: ()
27. Daughters of the American Revolution. Captain John James Chapter (Ohio), Marriage records,
1818-1865, Jackson County, US/CAN Film 317,419. Repository: Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150
28. new.Familysearch.org , PID: KWJ1-522.
29. Find A Grave, Find A Grave Web site, Find A Grave Memorial# 8409021. Repository: Find A
Grave, .
30. Headstone in Alpine, Utah, Utah Cemetery.
31. Information on the children of John and Christina McDaniel comes from family records and a
Utah Death Certificate, State of Utah Department of Health, Utah - Death Certificate ), Repository: Utah State Government, Division of Archives & Records Service, 300 S Rio Grande St., Salt Lake City, Utah 841011106. The individual certificate number for each individual will be listed as a source for the specific individual. Information was also taken from the new.familysearch.org website of the Family History Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
32. new.Familysearch.org , PID: KWJZ-4Z8.
33. new.Familysearch.org , PID: L4WC-1DB.
34. Utah Death Certificate, State Board File No. 94. Name on death certificate and headstone is spelled Tobitha.
35. new.Familysearch.org , PID: KWJD-GRC.
36. Utah Death Certificate, State board File No. 10
37. new.Familysearch.org , PID: KWVQ-51K.
38. Headstone, in Alpine City Cemetery.
39. new.Familysearch.org , PID: K24D-LS9.
40. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index(R) (Copyright
(c) 1980, 2002), Film Numbers: 1239577, Ref #27404; 178101, Ref #220554, Page #2597; 1239610, Ref #22243, Page #: 94; 1239507, Ref #: 6612.
41. new.Familysearch.org , PID: KWJ8-4X6
42. Stoker/Winegar/West/Youd Legacy, Alta Aitken Rowley, Grant Joseph Aitken, Charlene Attryde
Aitken, Stoker/Winegar/West/Youd Legacy, p. 30. Repository: Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA, Call Number: 929.273 St67ra.
43. Utah - Death Certificate, State Board of Health File No. 127B
44. Mt Pisgah, Union County, Iowa was a temporary community that existed between 1847 and
1852. This settlement was established to help with the many thousands of Latter-day Saints on their way west from Nauvoo, Illinois. The settlement was abandoned in 1852 when the Latter-day Saints were encourage to move on to Salt Lake City, Utah.
45. new.Familysearch.org , PID: KWZ1-TFW
46. new.Familysearch.org , PID: KWJC-1KW.
47. BYU-Idaho Special Collections, Special Collections and Family History, Death Records
. Repository: BYU-lDAHO Special Collections, Rexburg, Idaho. There is a question on the surname of the Emma's mother. On the death record it is listed as Winter and on new.familysearch.org it is listed as Hansen."

BIRTH:
1. 10 Jun 1812 in Jackson Co., OH per living endowment as cited in Ordinance Index below. Most databases use 10 Jul 1812, however the date I use would have been given by John himself when he participated in the living ordinance work.
Gallia County was formed on March 25, 1803 from portions of Adams and Washington counties. Jackson County was formed March 1, 1816 from Ross County. Both Raccoon Twp., Gallia Co. and Bloomfield Twp., Jackson Co. adjoin each other.

MARRIAGE:
1. Per biography cited above.

2. Location confirmed per Ordinance Index.

3. FHL Film #301,043 "Jackson County, Ohio Marriages 1831-1843" has the following entry in Marriage Book, Vol. B (1831-1843), page 46: "John McDaniel to Christina Stucker (sic)." License date 7 Feb 1835. Marriage by Seymour Brunson on 8 Feb 1835 by virtue of a license from the Cerk of the Court of Common Pleas in Jackson Co.
Seymour Brunson is the Mormon authority and probable missionary who converted the Stokers.

4. FHL book 929.273 St67d "Descendants of William Stoker (1819-1892): with a View of his Ancestors," by Jay and Rachel Phillips Deeben, Feb. 2014, p. 26, has a photo of the marriage record for this couple. It is from Jackson County, Ohio, Marriage Records, 1818-1865, Jackson County, US/CAN Film 317,419. It reads:
"John McDaniel to Christina Stucker, Feby. 7, 1835. I do hereby certify that by virtue of a License from teh Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for Jackson County, I have solemnized the right of the marriage between John McDaniels & Christina Stoker on the 8 day of Feb'y 1835 as witnessed by [illegible] Seymour Brunson [illegible]."

DEATH:
1. See burial citation below for date.

BURIAL:
1. FHL film 1750764 "Alpine, Utah Cemetery Records": "John McDaniel, parents are James Daniel and Zibia McCorley, d. 11 Nov 1884." Next entry: "Christina Stoker, parents David Stoker and Barbary Grable, d. 10 May 1854"; [this entry for Christina may be informational only in the record book but I am unsure].

2. "Index to the Utah County Cemeteries, 1850's to 1996," compiled by Diane R. Parkinson and located at the family history center at the BYU Provo library: John McDaniel, d. 11 Nov 1884 Alpine.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Ancestral File 4.19 (27 May 2001). 
McDaniel, John (I2532)
 
4826 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In studying the records of Stockbury, no marriage or burial record is found for either James or Elizabeth (Clinch) Fuller; however, there is a baptism for James Fuller, 11 Mar 1754, son of James and Elizabeth Fuller, which could be this family. No other baptismal entries found for this couple nor for the father James Fuller as a infant.

MARRIAGE:
1. Ancestry.com's "London, England, Clandestine Marriage and Baptism Registers, 1667-1754": James Fuller and Elizabeth Clinch of Thornham, Kent, marr. 12 Nov 1753 London, England. Place description: May Fair Register. Officiating Minister: Keith (1753 Nov - 1754 Mar).
Source: Registers of Clandestine Marriages and of Baptisms in the Fleet Prison, King's Bench Prison, the Mint and the May Fair Chapel. Records of the General Register Office, Government Social Survey Department, and Office of Population Censuses and Surveys, Registrar General (RG) series 7. The National Archives, Kew, England.
Note: Thornham [sometimes spelled Thurnham], is a parish next to Stockbury, Kent, England
This record is intriguing. I did a wide geographical and broad time search on all Elizabeth Clinches born circa 1732 and it is apparent that Clinch is a very Kentish name with a smattering in Cornwall/Devon. I did however find this Elizabeth Clinch born at Westminister in 1731 added by extraction who would be a likely candidate: Elizabeth Clinch (M9KY-8YM) bapt.19 Mar 1731 at Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London, England.
On the other hand the marriage record does state she is from Thornham, Kent. Only one Thornham in England in Norfolk, so the corrected Thurnham seems spot on to be in Kent. The baptism for James Fuller, 11 Mar 1754, son of James and Elizabeth Fuller is found in Stockbury, so the 1753 timing looks appropriate for the marriage. They must have moved shortly thereafter from Stockbury since it was the only child born of this couple in this parish. We know Elizabeth was dead by 1769 from her father's will, which does mention James Fuller. The will clinches this (no pun intended) -- I feel this is our Elizabeth, dau. of William Clinch and Ann Knight.
I wonder what was the background story of the record source: "Registers of Clandestine Marriages and of Baptisms in the Fleet Prison, King's Bench Prison..."
I feel this is our Elizabeth, dau. of William Clinch and Ann Knight.

BURIAL:
1. No record found in Stockbury Church records. 
Fuller, James (I5077)
 
4827 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In the 11 Jan 1901 obituary of his father Cornelius Osborne in Ogden, Utah, it is noted that he is leaving four sons and one daughter. Unsure who the fourth living son may be; three for sure are George, Cornelius, and Lamberth. Is this individual the fourth?

2. British Censuses:
1871: Erith, Kent, England per copy on file, no. 171, address: 14 Oxford Terrace, FHL film 823477:
Harriet Osborne, Head, Mar., 58, born Crayford, Kent.
Thomas G., son, Widr., 36, boot maker, b. Crayford, Kent.
Mary, dau., Unm., 27, b. Woolwich, Kent.
Cornealus, son, Unm., 24, Boiler Maker Ironworks, b. Woolwich, Kent.
Harriet, dau., Unm., 5, b. Seven Oakes, Kent. [Probably granddaughter.]

3. Chris Petersen on 11 Sep 1975 checked LDS Patriarchal Blessing Index without finding any Osbornes.

4. James Thomas Morgan being born 1833 plays havoc with Cornelius Osborne and Harriet Morgan being married in 1837. The marriage evidence is incontrovertible, so do we consider the first two boys, James Thomas and Thomas G., born out of wedlock? Odd that Thomas G. only shows up at age 36 living with his mother in the 1871 census and not in any of the previous censuses. I wonder if this is really James Thomas going by his middle name as Thomas G with the census taker hearing G and not J as a middle initial. This then gives a birth date of 1835-again before the marriage and not right on the 1833 baptism date. Need to find James Thomas Osborne (or Thomas J/G Osborne) in the 1861 census.

BIOGRAPHY:
1. Age 36 in 1871 Census for Crayford, Kent, England.

2. Branch records of Woolwich, Kent, England, FHL film #87,039.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. LDS branch records of Woolwich, Kent, England per FHL film 87039. 
Morgan or Osborne, Thomas G. (I843)
 
4828 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. In the execution of father's last will and testament, this individual shown as living at Draper, Salt Lake, Utah on 22 Jun 1889.

2. Mentioned as living in her mother's obituary of Dec. 7, 1915: "Mrs. Hales was the mother of 13 children, all of whom lived to maturity... Mrs. George W. Brown, Draper, Utah..."

3. In brother James L. Hales' obituary of 19 May 1921, this individual noted as living in Draper.

4. Censuses:
1860 US: Spanish Fork City, Utah, Utah, p. 229, 23 Aug 1860, family 1629:
Charles H. Hale, 48 farmer, $300, $800, Eng.
Julia A., 35, NY.
Frances, 23, Eng.
George G., 17, laborer, IL.
Mary J., 13, IA.
Charles H., 11, IA.
Joseph L., 9, IA.
John T., 7, UT.
Stephen F., 5, UT.
William, 2, UT.
Maria J., 7/12, UT.
Lucy E., 3, UT.
Mary, 4/12, UT.

1870 US: Spanish Fork, Utah, Utah, 3 Aug 1870, p. 24:
Family #172:
Charles H. Hales, 51, farmer, $750, $600, England.
Julia A., 45, keeping house, NY.
Joseph L., 19, at home, IA.
John T., 17, at home, UT.
Stephen F., 14, at home, UT.
William P., 12, at home, UT.
Josephine, 10, no occupation, UT.
Jonathan, 9, at home, UT.
Harriet E. 6, at home, UT.
Family #173:
Frances E. Hales, 31, keeping house, England.
Lucy E., 12, no occupation, UT.
Mary A., 10, no occupation, UT.
James L., 8, at home, UT.
Charles A., 7, at home, UT.
Caroline E, 5, at home, UT.
Franklin H., 2, at home, UT.
Harmon, 9/12, UT.

1880 US: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, FHL 1255337, NA T9-1337, p. 95C [note a search of all Mary Ann Hales in Utah 5 years either side of 1858 provides only this entry even though a couple of parts of the data don't exactly match - this may be explained perhaps because she appears to be perhaps a boarder or hird help in the census household]:
Mark McKunmuss, marr., 40, Can Can Sco, Dealer in Stock.
Irene, wife, 31, IN SC OH, keeping house.
Mary G., dau., 11, NV Can IN.
Elcey, dau., 11, NV Can IN.
Frankie G., son, 10, UT Can IN.
Georgie, dau., 7, UT Can IN.
Allen, son, 2, UT Can IN.
Hattie S. Shelby, sister, 21, CA SC OH.
Lizzie S. Shelby, sister, 21, CA SC OH.
Frank B. Shelby, brother, 19, CA SC OH, clerk in stable.
John A. Shelby, brother, 17, CA SC OH.
Emma E. Blake, other, 25, VT KY OH, clerk C. in Oil C.
Mary Ann Hales, other, 18, UT Eng Ger.
William Shelby, uncle, 40, MO, clerk in store.
Fred Chandler, other, 20, MO, clerk in store.

1900 US: Draper Precinct, Salt Lake, Utah, p. 61A:
George W. Brown, Jan 1858, 42, m. 15 years, UT NY Eng, farmer.
Mary A., Nov. 1859, 40, m. 15 years, UT Eng Eng.
George A., son, May 1886, 14, UT UT UT.
Fern E., dau., Nov 1888, 11, UT UT UT.
Chauncy E., son, Jun 1891, 9, UT UT UT.
Lima H., dau., Jan 1895, 5, UT UT UT.
Christie M., dau., ?? 1898, UT UT UT.

PHOTOS:
1. Photos on file from Marian Moody of 68-682 Crozier Dr., Waialua, HI, 96791 Marian is a descendant thru Caroline Elmira Hales and her husband Benjamin Franklin Woodard. Photos include large portraits of Charles Henry Hales and each of his two wives. There is also a collage of photos including Charles Henry Hales, his wife Frances, their daughters Caroline and Mary Ann, an unnamed daughter, and combined shot of Frances with an unnamed daughter. There is also another photo of the Spanish Fork Choir with Charles Henry Hales and his wife Julia Lockwod Hales. This is the same choir that was invited to sing at the dedication of the Salt Lake Tabernacle as quoted in an accompanying article about the history of Spanish Fork (source not cited).

BIOGRAPHY:
1. FHL book 929.273 B812hj "Ebenezer Brown and His Descendants," by Jennie Brown Hollist and Imogene Brown, Utah, Ebenezer Brown Family Organization, 1982, chapter 12, "George Wright Brown and Mary Ann Hales," pp. 571-, photos of both are included in article: "George Wright Brown was born Jan. 28, 1858, the second son and third child of Ebenezer and Mary Elizabeth Wright Brown. It is not known for sure where he was born, but it is assumed that it was in Draper, Utah, shortly after his parents returned from Carson Valley, Nevada settlement mission. His father had been called to start a settlement there in 1856, but it failed so they came back to Draper. His brothers and sisters were: William, just older than George, and Mary Elizabeth, just younger. The next four children were: Franklin, Julietta, Alfred Chester (died at birth). James Edward was born on 29 March 1870, at which tiime his mother died. George was twelve years old. After the death of their mother, George and his surviving brothers and sister cared for by Ebenezer's other wives. George was nineteen when his father died. On 19 Oct 1885, at the age of 27, George and Mary Ann Hales of Spanish Fork, Utah were married. Six children blessed this union: George Alma, Fern Elmina, Chauncey Ebenezer, Ivy Francis (she died as a child), Lima Hales and Christie May. George built a house for his family at 311 East 13800 South in Draper, Utah. They moved into it on Nov. 26, 1888, the day that their second Child, Fern, was born. George's farm consisted of about 10 acres on which he raised cows and chickens. He also farmed another piece of Land on the west side of the City Canal called the 'School Section.' George had a very interesting past time - he named all of his cows after different women who lived in Draper. His daughter Christie used to tell about hearing his yell, 'Get out of the corn you ___ and then name one of the ladies." Along with being a farmer, George also drove the neighborhood children to school and back in the 'Kid Wagon.' That was what a school bus was called then. When his oldest son, George Alma, was on a mission, he also worked up Little Cottonwood Canyon to help support him. As a pastime George enjoyed going fishing down on the Utah Lake. This was his favorite way to relax. His wife, Mary Ann, died on 20 June 1928 at the age 68. After her death, their youngest daughter Christie and her family moved in with George to care for him George Wright Brown died on 23 March 1932 at the age of 74 at the home of his daughter Lima in Sandy, Utah, where he was staying because Christie had just given birth of her fourth child. He was buried in Draper Cemetery. Children of George Wright Brown and Mary Ann Hales:
a. George alma Brown md. Rose Anna Kern.
b. Fern Elmina Brown md. Joseph Williams.
c. Chauncey Ebenezer Brown md. Olive Saxton.
d. Ivy Francis Brown (died as a child).
e. Lima Hales Brown md. Charles Albert Anderson.
f. Christie May Brown md. Alonzo John Orgill.
[Several pages of descendants follows.]"

2. Mentioned in father's will per copy of partial probate record in my possession. It appears to be the last page of three pages and is marked "#269 Charles H.H." on the bottom of the page. What I have says:
"...described Real and Personal property shall become the property of our children my sons and daughters and be Equally divided barween them namely, Lucy E. Hales, Mary Ann Hales Brown, James L. Hales, Charles Alma Hales, Caroline E. Hales Woodward, Franklin H. Hales, Hormon B. Hales, Edward M. Hales, Joseph M. Hales, Richard S. Hales, Sarah J. Hales, Hannah P. Hales and Daniel W. Hales.
Fifthly, I hereby direct and order that the water rights applied upon the respective pieces of land heretofore, shall continue respectively as herein devised and bequeathed.
Lastly, I hereby appoint my wife Julia Ann Hales the Executrix of this my last Will and Testament.
In Witness whereof I have herenunto set my hand and seal this 22d Day of June A.D. 1889.
The foregoing instrument consisting of three pages was... [witnessed and noted with Charles residing at at Spanish Fork, Utah Co., Utah Territory]."

BIRTH:
1. Online Ordinance Index for 1907 live sealing for this couple shows variant birth dates as follows, both of which do not seem to match other sources:
George Wright Brown, 18 Jan 1858 at Draper, Salt Lake, Utah.
Mary Ann Hales, 13 Nov 1861 at Spanish Fork, Utah, Utah.

DEATH:
1. As cited in husband's obituary of 24 Mar 1932: "His wife, Mrs. Mary A. Brown, died June 21, 1928."

2. Biography above uses variant date of 20 June 1928.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per Ancestral File. 
Hales, Mary Ann (I168)
 
4829 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Independent researcher who had contacted me in early 2015. I did not hire him but include his name for future reference for other Latvian research:
Mr. Gints Neiburgs
Riga, Latvia, EU
deltagints@gmail.com

2. Variant spellings include Herzenberg, Hercenberg, Hertzenberg, Gertsenberg, Hertzberg, KHertzenberg, Herzberg, etc.

3. Per email of 17 Jul 2007 from Nina Kossman www.ninakossman.com . Nina is a descendant of Klara/Robert/Joseph/Lemchen/Joseph Herzenberg. Note that Mitau, Courland was part of the tsarist empire, but later it became known as Jelgava, Latvia. Information per a family tree of the Herzenbergs prepared by Nina. She has another tree, a more complete one, which I have not yet seen. Also, she has a very complete tree from Harold Hodes who lives in London, but unfortunately that chart is not computerized; he snail-mailed it to her. This past February she went to Latvia and, besides Riga and Jelgava (where her father and his maternal grandparents were from), she also went to Piltene in Latvia, where our 18th century Herzenbergs lived. The old Jewish cemetery in Piltene is almost all Herzenbergs.

4. Courland (Kurzeme in Latvian, Kurland in German) is the historically distinct area of modern day Latvia bounded by the Baltic Sea to the west, Lithuania to the south, and the Dvina River (now Daugava) to the North. Its historic capital was Mitau (now Jelgava). It had ice-free Baltic ports with commercial and strategic importance. At its height Courland was a prosperous and cultured German-speaking Duchy. Courland was a separate Gubernia (Province) of the Russian Empire from 1797-1918. 50-60% of the Jews living in Riga just north of Courland had family roots in Courland. The names of the various towns have changed now that the area is part of Latvia (new-old as of early 1900s):
Aizpute-Hasenpoth
Jelgava-Mitau
Kuldiga-Goldingen
Liepaja-Libau
Piltene-Pilten
Talsi-Talsen
Ventspils-Windau

5. From book "Jewish Cemeteries in Latvia," by Meyer Meler, (Riga 2006) seen June 2009 at the Museum Jews of Latvia in Riga, Latvia:
Preface.
Dedicated to those Jews of Latvia who, fortunate never to have known the Holocaust and were buried in Jewish cemeteries rather than mass graves...
This book is also an expression of grief about the forgotten Jews of Latvia, who imbued this ground with their sweat and blood. The mission of this book is to remind us that a human being is alive until we cease to remember him or her. This book is a call to remember our ancestors so that our successors - Children, grandchildren, and grand-grand children - know from where they come...
The first task for Jews who settled in a new place was to rent a building for a synagogue, organized social life (sometimes the process of a formal registration of the community took several years), found Hevra-Kadisha, and find a place for a cemetery.
The first person in a newly built community usually was not a rabbi but a butcher (shokhet), who, besides his direct duties, also fulfilled the function of religious ministry, and only after getting stronger was the community able to invite a rabbi. On some occasions, one rabbi served several communities.
The establishment of a cemetery was a tortuous process because of the difficulties with the purchase of real estate (officially, Jews were forbidden from buying property). Therefore, until 1725, the Jews of Riga buried their relatives in Lithuania and Poland...
Jewish belief does not allow the burial of a holy person near a sinner; therefore, it is customary to select a special area of the cemetery for rabbis, scientists, and outstanding persons. Several cemeteries selected a section for Cohens (usually near the fence). In the New Riga Jewish cemetery (the historical area called Smerlis), not only a section for rabbis was selected but also a section for Children.
When it became possible to get a piece of land for the cemetery, the burial records were documented in pinkas.
With the growth of a community, various charitable organizations emerged, as, for example, a hospice for the sick, Bikur-Holim (Sick Attending), as well as so-called mutual credit societies. In the 1920s and 1930s, there were more than 20 charitable organizations in Riga, such as Friends of children, which organized summer vacations for Jewish children all over Latvia; Hohnoses-Kale, a dowry for poor brides; Malish-Arumim (Clothes for the Naked), which provided clothes and footwear to the poor; the ladies committee, which provided Jews in hospitals with kosher food. Other organizations provided wood in the winter, matzos, inexpensive cutlery and so on.
Special attention was paid to education, and the majority of the Jewish population in Latvia was literate. Boys were studying not only in Heders, but also in elementary schools. It was more or less possible for Jews to graduate from gymnasiums, but to graduate from a university of any kind was possible only for the wealthy Jews and only abroad because of severe restrictions on Jews in higher education in the Russian Empire (of which the territory of Latvia was a part for 200 years).
In those towns and villages where Jewish inhabitants were the main or major part of the population, Jews usually took part in the local municipality, in fire brigades, and in other significant parts of social life. At the end of the 19th century, along with the ferment of revolutionary social movements, Jews founded the Bund and took active part in this social democratic organization. After the rise of Zionism, Jews of the villages voted for their representatives from among various social strata and political groupings, the Zionists themselves having various factions...
Jewish small towns and villages had periods of flourishing growth and decline. The number of communities would fluctuate in tandem with railroad development, communities falling and rising with the closing and opening of railroad stations. Jews moved to other places... but the place of cemeteries remained the same. Other reasons for decreased in the number of communities were fire, disease (cemeteries for the victims of cholera were establish in Mitau (Jelgava) and Jugen (Rujena), though it is not known exactly where they were located), and migration. In the 1840s, many Jews moved to the larger cities and to the south of central Russia, and later, they emigrated to the United States, South Africa, and Palestine, though all these migrations occurred before the second World War and the Holocaust.
The Holocaust is special subject of discussion... During the Nazi occupation, the local authorities gave order to destroy Jewish cemeteries; after the war, in the 1950s, parks were set up on the territory of a number of cemeteries. This fate befell the Old Jewish Cemetery in Riga, which was turned into the Park of the Communist Brigades...
Historical Introduction:
Jews in Livland (Latvia) and Kurland, the two principalities on the coast of the Baltic Sea that were incorporated with the Russian empire during the 18th century, comprised the nucleus of Latvian Jewry. Livonia, with the city of Riga, passed to Russia from Sweden by peace treaty in 1721. Kurland, formerly an autonomous duchy, was incorporated into Russian as a province in 1795. Both these provinces were situated outside the Pale of Settlement, and so only those Jews who could prove that they had lived there legally before the provinces became part of Russian were authorized to reside in the region. One-third of Latvian Jewry lived in Latgale, which before 1772 was incorporated within Poland but later was included in the Russian Empire. Being incorporated within Russia, Latgale was administratively added to the Province of Bitebsk (inside the Pale of Settlement), therefore, Jews of Latgale lived in worse circumstances in comparison with Jews of other districts of Latvia, and there were a lot of poor among them differing from Jews of Livland and Kurland, Latgale Jews were affected by Russian Culture and at the same time were very religious, mostly Hassidic. The Jewish population generally increased, since from time to time other Jews were given special 'privileges,' including the right to live outside the Pale of Settlement. Thus, by 1897, the Jewish population had increased to 142,315 (7.4 percent of the total population of Latvia). The integration of Latvian Jews started at the end of the 19th century, when Jews from Latgale began to remove to Riga.
Before World War I, there were more than 170,000 (according to other sources, up to 190,000) Jews in territories of Latvia (7.4 percent of the total population). During the war years, many of them were expelled to the interior of Russia, while others escaped from the war zone. In 1920, the Jews of Latvia numbered 79,644 (5 percent of the population). By 1925, the Jewish population of Latvia had increased to 95,675, the largest number of Jews during the period of Latvia's existence as an independent state.
By the mid-19th-century, there were 22, 734 Jews living in Kurland, and the census of 1897 lists 51,169 (7.6 percent of the population). The culture of the Kurland Jews was strongly influenced by German and Lithuanian Jewry.
On the eve of the Holocaust, there were 93,000 Jews in the country - 43,000 in Riga, 7,000 in Liepaja (Libau), and rest in other communities.
Immediately following the German invasion, Jews were subjected to persecution by the local population. By the end of the war, more than 90 percent of Latvian Jewry had perished. The Germans occupied Latvia during the first weeks of the German-Soviet war in July 1941. It became a part of the new Reichkommissariat 'Ostland' under the official name "General District of Latvia.' It is estimated that approximately 75,000 Jews fell into Nazi hands. At the instigation of Einsatzbruppen A (action commandos), Latvian auxiliary police carried out a pogrom against the Jews of Riga on July 4, 1941. Almost all synagogues were destroyed, and 400 Jews were killed. By the end of 1941, about 60,000 Latvian Jews had been killed. At the end of the Nazi occupation, there were 4,000 surviving Jews - prisoners of the concentration camp Kaiserwald and other camps outside Riga. These Jews were driven out of the Latvian camps to camps in Germany, where only about 1000 of them survived. At the same time, more than 400 Jews were hidden and saved in Latvia.
The Jewish Community in Latvia Today.
Following the defeat of Germany, approximately 3,000 Jewish survivors returned to Latvia. The majority of Jew in the country today, however, are descendants of Jews who came to Latvia from other parts of the Soviet Union after the war. Thus, Russian -speakers dominate the community, In the 1970s, Riga was a major center of Jewish dissident activity. After the collapse of communism and the resurrection of an independent Latvia, restrictions on Jewish life were removed. Today, there are approximately 9,000 Jews in the Country out of a total population of 2.3 million.
There are synagogues in Riga, Daugavpils, Liepaja, and Rezekne. Most members of the community are non-observant. The Habad movement, however, is active in promoting Jewish observance. There are two Jewish schools in Riga attended by about 500 children who learn also Hebrew.
As a part of Latvian Jews still did not obtain the Latvian citizenship they cannot exercise some of the civil rights.
Cemeteries and Jewish Funeral Traditions.
In Hebrew, a cemetery is called beyt-olam (or beyt-olmin), which means "house of eternity; of beyt-kvarot (house of the grave). Sometimes cemeteries were also called beyt-haym (house of life).
Jewish cemeteries are our common historical heritage, and some of the gravestones are masterpieces made from granite, sandstone, cast iron, concrete. Symbols and texts on the gravestones show the deceased's relation to the Cohen or Levit families, his or her business, the level of holiness, and so forth. The variation of ohels (small houses) built over the graves of famous persons, the pedestals, and the grave plates made the Jewish cemetery anything but monotonous.
In 1988, Gedalia Morein, in an article in the Latvian magazine 'Art,' wrote of his research on the tombstones in Jewish cemeteries in Latvia. He learned of the differences in the traditions of making and shaping Jewish tombstones in the various regions of the country. The cemeteries in Latgale, for example, had very simple and ascetic forms of decor, and the most attention was paid to the text, which was in Hebrew or Yiddish. The tombstones in the cemeteries of Kurland, by contrast, had various forms, different text in Hebrew and German - and with an interesting feature: the German text and the dates were based on the Hebrew calendar. There were paintings on the tombstones as well - mostly of different animals, such as lions, elk, wolves, and bears. The animals illustrated the names of the deceased, but they also were heraldic signs. In the heraldic meaning, the lion was the herald of Jude, the elk - of innocence, the snake - of death, the dove - the Jewish nation and woman; grapes symbolized fruitful work and also could symbolize the Jewish nation. The hand, which gave the blessing, was the sign of Cohen; the hands that held the watering can were the sign of the Levites. The candle that burned symbolized the creation of the world, whereas the candle unlit symbolized death. On women's gravestones, menorahs or candles were painted. Tombstones in the form of a broken tree could be seen in all over Latvia, from Ludza to Liepaja.
In Riga's new Jewish cemetery in Smerli, after the Second World War new tombstones appeared which - along with pictures and paintings of such items as a violin, a key, a brush, or an anchor - characterized the profession of the deceased.
Mr. Morein wrote that in the 1920s and 1930s, Latvia presented a museum of cemetery tombstones representing Western as well as Eastern tendencies, while demonstrating specific local traits and details that made Latvia cemeteries unique. Fifteen years have passed since Mr. Morein wrote these words, and, while researching for this publication, we were unable to find this uniqueness in Latvia any more. Nevertheless, we were able to find some cemeteries, such as in Kuldiga, where, thanks to the architect Arvils Orins and researchers of the Kuldiga Museum, for wooden tombstones from the local Jewish cemetery were saved. In 1978, the cemetery was slated for destruction, and a park was created, though this project was only partially completed, leaving part of the cemetery and the loveliest of its monuments intact. The unique wooden tombstones were removed to the Kuldiga Museum to ensure their survival - a rare case of conservation in Latvia and the rest of the world.
From death to funeral.
According to Jewish mythology, when malah-movet (angel of death) comes for the soul of a human being, he leaves the lifeless body for the living, and their duty is to bury it with honor. Relatives and friends, as well as the society Hevra-Kadisha, are responsible for this obligation.
The eyes of the deceased are closed and the body laid on the floor, putting the legs together and positioning the hands over the breast. The body is covered with a sheet, and burning candles are put at the head. The candle's light symbolized the holy human soul. All windows must be opened and mirrors in the house are to be covered.
From the time of death until the funeral, all the deceased's close relatives - father, mother, brother, sister, son daughter, husband, and wife are onen (Hebrew for 'a person in sorrow'). The main responsibility of onen is to organize the funeral a soon as possible, and they are therefore freed from their daily duties. Onen shall refrain from washing, shaving, eating meat, drinking wine, having sex.
Although it is required that the body be buried on the day of death, this generally is not possible because of the necessity of completing paperwork and waiting of the arrival of relatives. If the deceased has no relatives or close friends, the community takes the responsibility of the memorial service.
Jews were always buried and never cremated. Halakah interdicts any burial other than interment and particularly cremation. Even though the deceased express the wish to be cremated, he or she had to be buried and the will of God must be done. The cremated remains cannot be buried in the Jewish cemetery, and the Jewish community does not bear any responsibility. Judaism does not allow one to mourn the cremated person. From bygone days the greatest disaster was not to be interred in the cemetery.
A ceremony of purification (tahara) was required, which allowed burying the body with respect and honor. The ceremony consisted of washing the body, covering it with a sheet (tahrihim), and then preparing for the funeral. A person from the Hevra-Kadisha society washed the body. If a man had died, only men were allowed to prepare his body for the funeral; if a woman had died, only women were allowed to prepare her body. Preparations were usually held in a special room at the cemetery or nearby.
The teacher of Torah Gamliel from Yavne promulgated a rule that all Jews should be buried in the same clothing (tahrihim) - a simple outfit consisting of a cotton shirt and pants, a special head covering for both men and women, and a tie around the head to keep the jaw closed. The rule on clothing prevented the poor from feeling shame and the wealthy from competing in demonstrations of expensive burial outfits. The clothing had no pockets that would allow placement of things of material worth because the only one real value of a human being is his or her soul. Tahrihim symbolized clarity, simplicity, and human honor. A deceased male should be wrapped in a prayer shawl - known as a tallis - and tzitzit should be cut. The tzitzits are a reminder of the 613 commandments which the living must observe according to the Talmud.
Jewish wise men counseled that Jews be buried in simple wooden coffins, as expensive coffins would not confer honor and respect. The good works of the person, and not the extravagance of the coffin, spoke to the honor of the deceased.
A handful of soil left from digging the grave was put in a small sack and placed under the head of the deceased as a pillow. Persons wealthy enough to obtain soil from Israel would place this under the deceased's head and body to emulate burial in Israel.
The Jews have special rites to cover the eyes of the deceased. At the cemetery in Embute a local inhabitant stated that in some cases when Jews forgot to bring the required symbols with them they bought from the peasants an earthenware bowl, which they broke and put the shard to the eyes of the dead.
The funeral ceremony started at Beyt-Levayot - the ritual room for farewell, where all the deceased's relatives and friends gathered.
A representative of Hevra-Kadisha read the appropriate prayers. Before the farewell speeches (hespedim), the close relatives were asked to say goodbye. At this moment, the face of the deceased was revealed only to relatives to affirm the deceased's identity.
The coffin was taken to the grave on a special litter, and it was considered an honor to help convey the coffin; therefore, the opportunity to carry the litter was given to all who wished to do so. Those who carried the litter would change after several minutes with others. If a man died, Psalm No. 91 was read, but if a woman, then poems from the 31st chapter of the Book of Mishna (the parables of King Solomon) were also read. The representatives of Hevra-Kadisha read the poems. Usually, the funeral procession stopped three times, but in some communities it stopped seven times to recognize the seven days during which the world was created.
Representatives of the Hevra-Kadisha put the deceased into the grave face up, during which time the mourners say, 'Let him/her rest in peace.' Jewish tradition prohibits putting any items into the grave.
Close relatives of the deceased (spouse, children, parents) placed soil on the coffin using the right hand: the fingers and thumb of the hand were extended and held together, and the hand, palm down, was put into a loosened mound of soil. The hand was retrieved, and the soil that lay on top of the hand was thrown on top of the coffin. This act was repeated three times by each close relative. Male mourners were required to take the spade and throw soil on the coffin, thus remembering the deceased. The spade was not handed on but stuck into the ground and only then taken up by the next mourner.
After the grave was covered, the representative of Hevra-Kadisha read the prayer Siduk ha-Din (condolences in light of God's decision). at the end of the ceremony, the mourners read a special Kadish - Kadish Gadol, the great Kadish, that is read only on such occasions. Kadish Gadol is different from other forms of Kadish prayers because it emphasizes the wait until liberation and the renewal of this world and life. The last prayer was El male rahamim (the Merciful Ruler), which is read by the Hevra-Kadisha representative.
If the burial takes place on the day of the New Moon, half-holiday or holiday when it is allowed to bury, then the interment is made according to the shortened rite.
In some Jewish communities, including Riga, there is a ritual asking the deceased's forgiveness, which emphasizes respect for him or her. The Hevra-Kadisha representative reads the following to the deceased: 'Everything we have done we have done in your honor in accordance with Jewish tradition in our community. You are released from all obligations. Go and rest in peace and let your fate be determined at the end of days. Be a protector and advocate of your family and friends (with God). Let peace and life be with Israel and us forever and ever. Amen.'
Flowers should be placed on the grave only at the end of the funeral ceremony. After the funeral ceremony, those present wash their hands, an act symbolizing the old ritual that purifies a living person after contact with the dead. The hands also must be washed after each attendance at the cemetery. No burials take place on Saturday.
Mourning.
Mourning is divided into four periods, after which the mourners slowly overcome their pain and returned to normal life:
Onen (a person in sorrow) - the period from death to the funeral'
Shiva (seven) - the period of seven days from the funeral;
Shloshim (thirty) - the period from the eighth after the funeral to the thirtieth day;
A year after the funeral (only if the mother or father has died).
After these periods have elapsed, the anniversary of the death is mentioned based on the Jewish calendar.
Funeral traditions help to find the appropriate link between sorrow and the necessity of returning to normal life. The intensity of mourning slowly subsides day by day.
Mourning is also expressed by the tearing of one's clothes (criya). This demonstrates pain of loss (avel). Depending on the relationship between the mourner and the deceased, there are rules as to where and how clothing should be torn.
After the funeral, from the moment the grave is covered, shiva (the first week of mourning) begins. According to Jewish tradition, the main purpose of this period is to bring mourners back to normal life.
It is important for friends and relatives of the mourners to organize a 'meal of condolence' (seudat havraa). The meal is composed of bread, boiled eggs, or legumes; according to tradition, all items served this day should have a round form, which is a symbol of mourning representing the turnover of life and death. The 'meal of condolence' is a minimal offering to sate hunger. It is not an occasion for sharing memories of the deceased, as this is not in accordance with Jewish tradition.
During the seven days of shiva, the mourners, with the exception of special circumstances, should not work. Furniture very low to the ground or no furniture is used during this time to remind persons that they are in a mourning state. Shoes are not worn. These days are called nihum avelim (comforting of the mourners).
Days of attendance. If you are not a close friend or relative, there is not reason to come to express condolences earlier than two days after the funeral.
What to bring. In several communities, mostly Sephardim, it is required that food be brought, but this not customary among Ashkenzaim. If something edible is brought, it should be in single-use dishes. In all Jewish communities, it is inappropriate to bring flowers, as they are symbols of celebration.
What to say. Mourners may feel awkward, not knowing what to say and fearing they might somehow be impolite. There are rules that are helpful: mourners do not greet their hosts at the entrance but come in and sit down silently to share the pain of the mourners. The door is usually open to avoid greetings and attracting attention. Mourners should not start the conversation. In general, there is no need to speak a great deal; condolences are not expressed in words as much as by attendance.
The period from the seventh day after the funeral (the end of shiva) until the thirtieth day after the funeral is the second state of mourning for the relativ3es, called shloshim (thirty). If shloshim occurs during one of the feasts - Pesah, Shavuot, Rosh-ha Shana, Yom-Kipur, or Sukkot - then shloshim comes to an end.
At the end of shloshim, the family goes to the cemetery. On this day, a gravestone should be erected (sometimes gravestones are put up a year after the funeral).
The mourning period lasting a year is allowed only when mourning for parents. Usually during this time there is abstention from attending weddings or other celebrations. During the eleventh month after the funeral, relatives of the deceased shall read the Kadish.
Every year, according to the Jewish calendar, relatives commemorate the day of death (Yiddish Yor-Tzayt). On the day prior to the anniversary, before sunset, relatives burn a candle (nemeshame), which should burn during the following day. If possible, relatives go to the cemetery to read a prayer.
The days of Yom-Kipur, the seventh day of Pesah, Shavuot and Shmini-Atzeret also are days of commemoration. In the mornings on these days, Iskor (Commemoration of the dead) is read in synagogues between reading of the Torah and Musat (bringing of offerings).
We hope the reader will understand that this publication about Jewish burial customs is informative only. The Hevra-Kadisha alone may take responsibility for burials in accordance with the above mentioned Jewish laws and local customs."
A. Pilten (Piltene):
"This cemetery (one of the oldest Jewish cemeteries in Latvia) was established at the beginning of the 18th century. Although the cemetery has survived in poor condition, it is regularly maintained because of its historical value.
In 1799, a decree of the Senate of Russia noted that Jews had been living in Pilten for 200 years. If Jews were forbidden to live in the cities of the Kurland Duchy by a law of 1561, then in Piltene at that time, which was part of the Piltene district subject directly to the king of Poland. Jews had permission not only live and trade in the town, but were also in 1570 given civil rights equal to those of other citizens and the opportunity to buy real estate. The Jewish community of Pilten was founded in 1708, and a synagogue was opened at this time. However, due to the rapid development of Hazenpoth (Aizpute), the community of Pilten fell into decline and enjoyed a renaissance only in 1805. At that time, Jews mostly lived in rural areas: in 1792, only 896 out of 4581 Jewish men in Kurland lived in towns. In 1935, there were only 45 Jews in Pilten (6.1 percent of the population).
Among the famous Jews of Pilten was tsadik Alighu (died 1815). From 1805, Rabbi Reuben Yehoshua Zelig Ashkenazy is mentioned in the chronicles. The rabbi of the town was Dov Ber Hirsh until 1850 and then Joseph Herzberg (until 1855), then Menachem Mendel Israelson (until 1859) and others. Due to a sharp decrease in the numbers of Jews in Pilten, the Jewish community was served by rabbi from Ventspils - Dr. Isaak Faitelberg and Efraim Samunov. The last rabbi in Pilten was Rubin Rubinstein.
Location of the cemetery: the suburbs of Piltene (211 km from Riga; 22 km from Ventspils), 31/33 J. Matera Street (3 km from the town center)."
B. Tuckum (Tukums): "The first official burial of Jews in Tuckum occurred in 1799; however some information suggests that burials here started in 1753. The Hevra-Kadisha society was founded in 1765. Today, the cemetery occupies 1.6 hectares and is divided into old, middle, and new sections. The last burials took place in 1973. The Jewish community in Tuckum was formed in 1765 and was officially registered in 1801. In 1800, 255 Jews lived in the town; in 1850, there were 2887 (47 percent of the inhabitants). In the second half of the 19th century, Jews came to Tuckum from Lithuania, but as they did not have the right to settle here, they were removed from the town. In 1865, a fire destroyed the synagogue, and 28 Jewish families were made homeless. After the First World War, 597 Jews lived in Tuckum; in 1935, there were 953 (11.7 percent of the inhabitants. Today, only five Jews live here. From 1813 to 1941, the rabbis of Tukums were from the Lihtenstein family (the last rabbi from this family perished in the Holocaust); the Kopenhagen family produced several well known doctors; the Ferber, Blumenfeld, and Herzenberg families produced a series of social activists and philanthropists who contributed a great deal to the development of the town.
Location of the cemetery; Tukums (63 km from Riga), at the end of Klusa Street.
C. Jelgava (Mitau):
"The cemetery was established in 1729 when Isaak bar Ieguda received from the Duke of Kurland permission to found a Hevra-Kadisha society. In 1825, a site was purchased with money from the Borkum brothers for expansion of the cemetery, and in 1926, the city allocated ground for further expansion of the cemetery. In 1831, after a cholera epidemic in Mitau, a special cholera cemetery was established, where Rabbi Efraim Jacobson and his pupil Yehuda Karp were buried. The exact location of this cemetery is not known.
The Jewish community in Mitau was formed at the beginning of the 18th century. Many Jewish scholars, rabbis, and other well known individuals are buried in the cemetery that remains, including Simon Blumenfeld - the calligrapher who, according to legend, wrote for Pope Pius VII the entire text of the Torah on a sheet of paper that was rolled up and passed through a signet ring, for which the calligrapher received a diamond ring in return. He worked both for the Russian and Prussian emperors as well as many other famous persons. In 1775, the following persons lived in Mitau - the philosopher Markus Herz, the pupil of educator Moisey Mendelson; the wrier and historian Reuben Wunderbar, who wrote a history of the Jews of Livland and Kurland and was the official translator of the provincial government, well known publicist Solomon Pucher, who became state rabbi in 1859; the family of Rabbis Nurok - Tsvi Hersh Nurok (died 1912), his sons Mordechay and Aaron. In 1935, 2039 Jews lived in Jelgava (6 percent of the population). The last rabbi was the distinguished historian Leon (Levy) Ovchinsky (perished in the Holocaust.)
Location of the cemetery: Jelgava (40 km from Riga), 1 Miera Street."

6. From a display at the Jewish History Museum in Riga, Latvia which I visited Jun 2009: "The first Jewish settlers arrived in Latvia in the middle of the 16th century in the area of Piltene. In 1570 they acquired full civic rights, were allowed to have real property and to build synagogues. In 1797 the Jew Euchel was elected to Aizpute's towncouncil, became an alderman and member of the towncourt."

7. From a history book of Jewish synagogues in the Jewish History Museum in Riga, Latvia which I visited Jun 2009.
A. It has a photo of the Piltene Synagogue and the following comment: "Piltene (Pilten) - a town in the Ventspils district. First mentioned in 1234, granted the status of a town in 1557. The information concerning Jewish settlers dates back to the 16th-17th centuries. The synagogue (one of the oldest in Courland) was mentioned in 1708. Population in 1935: 737 citizens including 45 Jews. Synagogue at 5, Sinagogas St., a stone building, constructed in 1850, reconstructed in 1925, 38 registered community members. Rabbi: Ephraim Samunov."
B. It has the following comment: "Jelgava (Mitau) - a district town in the Zemgale province. first mentioned in 1265, a township since 1345, granted the status of a town in 1573. the Jewish community was formed at the beginning of the 18th century and was one of the oldest and larges in the 19th century. Population in 1935: 34,099 citizens including 2,039 Jews.
The first Synagogue of Kalman Borkum was constructed in 1784, rebuilt in 1874 by Friedlieb and was renamed Friedlieb's Synagogue at 1 Dika St., a wooden building, reconstructed in 1922-1934, 208 registered community members.
Salzman's Synagogue at 11 Viestura St., a wooden building, constructed in 1830, reconstructed in 1936. 52 registered community members.
The Great Synagogue at 1 Udens St., a brick building, constructed in 1860, reconstructed in 1934-1939. 671 registered community members.
The House of Prayer of Chassidim at 4 K. Barona St., constructed in 1919. 58 registered community members.
Rabbis: Leon Orvchinsky, Yossel Levitin.
Ritual slaughterers: Simon Blumson, Elias Yuter, Gutman Melamed.
Cantors: Morduch Sherenzon, Jacob Yoffe."

8. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of his data from website in my possession.
A. Brief Chronology of Major Historical Events in Latvia:
Date Event
900 ce Three Baltic tribes akin to Slavs, Latgals, Zengals and Kurs - occupied the present Latvia.
1200-1400 Latvia was ruled by Teutonic Knights and the country became the so-called 'Battleground for Heathen Souls' as these Knights led the vanguard of Christian Imperialism over Europe in the Middle Ages.
1480 Battle of Grunewald in which the combined forces of Russia, Poland and Lithuania routed the Teutonic Knights.
1500 Latvia became part of the Hanseatic League.
1561 Latvia was subjected to a recurrent struggle for control between Germany, Russian and Swedish forces.
1625 Libau was founded.
1721 Peter the Great's victory over Sweden allowed Russia to seize control of the Baltic Estates.
1795 Kurland fell to Russia: a century of serfdom ensued for the Baltic peasants.
1881 The railway line between Libau and Romney was completed.
1899 Riga led a revolt against the Tsar.
1914 World War I erupted.
1918 Germany occupied Latvia; Latvia proclaimed its independence.
1934 Ulmanish with his Aizsargi overthrew the Social Democratic government and established a Fascist dictatorship.
1939 Outbreak of World War II
1941 The Wehrmacht occupied Latvia.
1945 The Red army liberated Latvia.
1991 Latvia regained its independence.

B. "The Herzenbergs of Piltene and Liepeja," by Len Yodaiken (in Israel), June 1999, Excerpt From: Preface
"In presenting this family tree of the well known Herzenberg family of Kurland, I would like to pay tribute to all those members of the family who have maintained the family traditions and researched its roots. In particular I must mention Leonardo Herzenberg for his research and analyses of his father's memoirs, Gail Herzenberg who had kept detailed records of her own branch, Peter Herzenberg who has made a superb attempt to gather all the material and make some sort of order out of it. Last but not least, the family should pay thanks to Mr Harold Hodes of London who has initiated and patronised this project. The research of Alexandrs Feigmanis in Riga who has ferreted out many useful records in the Archives of Latvia has been the basis for this essay.
Initially the impression was that the Herzenbergs were one unified family, but as time progressed it became apparent, as other branches and families popped up in many different locations, that the task of unifying them all at this point was indeed a daunting one and that possibly many more months or even years of research are required in order to amalgamate, at least, the majority of individuals found. I therefore do not pretend that this is either a comprehensive or definitive work on the family, but rather a basis for future expansion, should some member of the family take it upon himself [or herself], that challenge.
An attempt has been made to bring the known branches of the family up to date at least to the turn of the 20th century adding in all those later generations who were easily accessible after that date. Without having made a universal search we can point out that there were branches of the Herzenberg family in Russia proper, Estonia, Serbia, Rumania, Canada and the USA to mention a few that have come to light.
Something else which should be undertaken by a member of the family is the assembling of a historical biography of the family. This so that the younger members of the family can have access to their own history and thereby establishing their own identity, both as Herzenbergs and as Jews. Leonardo's father, Robert [in his] memoirs represents a wonderful basis for such an undertaking.
In the 20th century we tend to think of the origins of the family to have been in Latvia, but 20th century Latvia is made up of three provinces of the Tzarist Russian Empire, namely the Duchy of Kurland, Livonia and Semigalia. Kurland had historic ties with Germany throughout history, having originally been founded by the Order of Teutonic Knights and it remained culturally tied to Germany well into this century. This was also true of the Jewish Community which followed the German Jewish "Enlightenment" movement. Livonia was ruled for many years by the Livonian knights and fell into the Swedish sphere of influence, but this was mainly felt in Northern Livonia which is today part of Estonia. The area of Livonia and Semigalia in which the Jews lived came equally under German influence and that of Rabbinic Lithuania. This difference, to some extent expresses itself in the division of the Herzenberg family."

C. "Jews in Piltene," Yevreyskays encklopedia, St. Petersburg, 1910, vol.XII, page 516, vol.IX, page 926, 927:
"In the old chronicles in Germany, there is mention that in 1350 a Jew named Moses was accused of poisoning wells during the great plague in Piltene. The first sure mention about Jews settling in the town was at the start of 16th (XVI) century, when the bishop of Piltene district, Johann von Munhaussen, invited Jewish merchants from western Europe to settle. At the end of the century, Jews had the right to live in the city and to buy immovable property, as well as the right of citizenship.
From 1561 until 1819 the district of Piltene was like a separate state inside the Duchy of Courlande, also there, the laws about Jews were different and more tolerant than in the rest of Courlande.
However, in 1717 a decree to expel Jews was approved by landtag - Christian merchants seeing in Jews, competitors in trade and crafts. Noblemen were more favourably disposed to them, because they paid good taxes. By the middle of the 18th (XVII) century, Jews continued to live in Courlande and brothers Osaya and Hirsch Kahn were appointed as tax inspectors of the Jewish population.
In Piltene 1798, there lived 293 Jewish men.
In Piltene 1835, there lived 1709 Jewish people, of both sexes.
In Piltene 1897, there lived 1509 inhabitants, among them 629 Jews.
In Piltene 1910, there was a Jewish school for boys."

9. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of his data from website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database. I have no key to the sources; however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in the following lengthy report which I include in full as follows:
"RESEARCH: The TASK of FINDING The HerzenbergS
No easy matter, especially when plagues and wars have scattered the survivors so far and wide. With over a century of separation between most of the families and scant records of our forefathers on which to proceed, we have endeavoured to bridge the gap.
ASSEMBLING The INFORMATION
Initially there were three main sources of information from within the family. Firstly, Robert Herzenberg recorded his grandparents and parents generation in Libau, Latvia and passed this down to his son Leonardo. This forms the main trunk of the tree. Secondly, Gabriel William Herzenberg recorded his parents generation and passed this down to his children, Gail & Berl Herzenberg. Then, first cousins Winston and Peter Herzenberg assembled the South African Herzenbergs in the mid-nineties. Through the introduction of the Internet, Peter contacted Leonardo and found out that Harold Hodes had commissioned a search into the Hodes/Herzenberg tree in Latvia, with researcher Aleksandrs Feigmanis having supplied what information existed there. A meeting of Harold, Hazel (his sister), Gail and Peter occurred in London on April 10, 1999. This reunion brought together the three branches of the family for the first time in over a century. See photos...
Harold Hodes then engaged a professional genealogist, Len Yodaiken in Israel to undertake the task to putting all the pieces together. In the meantime, Peter Herzenberg with the help of distant relatives as far afield as South Africa, Australia, Germany, USA and Canada located many of the missing branches.
The record is far from complete and the project, ongoing...
CONTRIBUTORS
We acknowledge and thank all who have contributed in a professional capacity, or as voluntary researchers and financially, to make this project possible. Particularly, Harold Hodes who has generously sponsored the first full genealogy of the Herzenbergs of Libau under the professional guidance of Len Yodaiken, a genealogist in Israel. The main body of the records and in giving order to our tree remains much of Len's contribution; he contributed about a third of the names.
A special thank you to Leonardo Herzenberg, who created the first Herzenberg Web Site, and has given permission for us to use his father, Robert Herzenberg's memoirs. Importantly, from his site Leonardo has contributed to at least a third of the names, hence providing the nucleus on which this tree has been built. On this Web site you will also find further reminisces from Leonardo's father with splendid accounts of daily life in Kurland (Courland), Latvia. See e-mail address below.
Further credit must be apportioned to Aleksandrs Feigmanis, a professional researcher in Latvia, Gail Herzenberg, Michael Phillips (married to Paula Herzenberg) and the Late Winston Herzenberg, all of whom have contributed much to the current records.
Importantly, two other family members need a special thank you from us all. Namely, Leonardo Herzenberg's father, Robert, who has left us a priceless record in his reminisces, recording the names within the text. Then Gail and Berl Herzenberg's father, Gabriel, who had the foresight to also leave a record of his family and descendants.
Lastly, I am indebted to the many family members who have contributed so generously and given voluntarily and freely of their time. Between us, we have contributed the other third of names.
MAIN RESEARCHERS in 1999
Hodes, Harold, 106 Brim Hill, London, N2 0EY, United Kingdom Tel +44 181 883 5464 hh@Bloem.demon.co.uk Harold graciously sponsored the research under-taken by Feigmanis and later, Len Yodaiken. He also contributed much in the way of personal records.
Yodaiken, Len, Professional genealogical researcher: Fax: 00972 6691 4947 Shoshly@canaan.co.il - Kibbutz Kfar, Hanasai, Galil, Elion, Israel, 12305. Unstinting and generally irritated by my many questions, Len produced a superb record of many of the European Herzenbergs.
Feigmanis, Aleksandrs, Grestes 2-12 LV-1021, Riga, Latvia. Tel 371-7246893 aleksgen@mailcity.com Professional genealogical researcher: He recorded many of the early generations on which the foundation of the tree is now built.
Herzenberg, Leonardo, 1700 E. 56th St # 2707, Chicago, Illinois, USA Tel 773-995.7072 herzenberg@computer.org Leonardo's tree is an invaluable tool with a vast amount of information which shows one main trunk/branch. To my knowledge, he is the first family member to have attempted this task in such detail. Without his records these pages would be bleak indeed.
Richard Lee (Rick) Hertzenberg, Rhertzy@aol.com The Nordic Hertzenbergs. Rick has put together his family tree and an example of dedication. If a tie exists between the families it must be Michael's generation or earlier and beyond any known records. We are pleased to have his consent to include his tree here, for those interested in the surname or unsure of which family they possibly fit into. A more detailed tree is available at his site, mentioned below.
Herzenberg Peter, 41, Goodwin Close, London, SE14 3TR UK Tel +00 171 2318511 Email: access.amp@virgin.net. [Note that Peter moved to South Africa in the early 2000s and has since discontinued the tree from which this report came.] This tree was possible only with all the hard work of those above and a lot of help from our relatives below...
OTHER CONTRIBUTORS
Berl Herzenberg - Deborah Herzenberg - Erwin Herzenberg - Gail Herzenberg - Gerald Herzenberg - Hirsch Jocum Dr - Howard Herzenberg - Irwin Herzenberg - Jerry Herzenberg - Joseph Herzenberg - Leonard A Herzenberg - Leonardo Herzenberg - Mary Herzenberg - Mike Phillips - Rita Cohen - Ruth Herzenberg - Shari Odenheimer - Winston Herzenberg...
OriginS of OUR SURNAME!
The surname Herzenberg was given to our Jewish forefathers probably in the mid-seventeenth century by the authorities who wished to keep a track of the population, as prior to this period, surnames were not commonplace. The first surviving population census we have on record is 1811, hence the Herzenbergs living in Kurland prior to this event, for roughly a century and half, or at least a few generations of whom we have absolutely no records, and remain unaccounted for in our family tree. If there were earlier public census' then we are not aware of them. Fortunately although scant, records have survived by way of documents and family recollections. Gravesides in Libau, Riga and other towns have produced numerous names, but still, this tree is far from a complete when considering the many minor towns and villages as yet, not researched. This accounts for why there are a few dismembered branches in our tree.
Regardless, we have built a formidable array of family members prior to 1811, and therefore can account for most persons throughout the 1700 century.
Of course, while we enjoy a preoccupation with the surname, we should not lose sight of the fact past generations of our forefathers came from the south: the exodus from Egypt, along the north Africa Coast though countries such as Libya, Tunisia and finally crossed into Europe via Spain. Driven out from there in............during the ........ when many Jews were burnt ..........., they settled across the fertile plains of mid-Europe. Again, driven from France they turned yet once more northwards. Then again a migrated further north, away from the many unfriendly Europe principalities during the 1400 to 1600 century, settling in countries like Kurland where they were well received. They were yet to acquire a surname.
It seems the authorities must have looked favourably on our forefathers, because the tendency was, if the did not like the individuals concerned, they acquired unfavourable names. There has been much speculation as to the actual origin of the Herzenberg name, meaning 'Heart of the Mountain'. It is clearly a German word and in Hebrew, translates to Levihar. These have ranged from being named after a locality, a deer, to acquiring the name of a highly respected German family, which did exist. Whatever the facts, in truth, we just do not know.
The records show that dependant on where, or the nationality of the writer, the name was recorded in either German or Russian; often showing slight variations in spelling for the same individual, as:
Herzenberg - Hertzenberg - Hercenberg - Hercenbergs - - Hertcenberg - Hertsenberg
Sometimes, (possibly) erroneously as Herzberg or Hertzberg, which seems to be an entirely different family. It is worth noting here that in 1815 Census the records show Eliahu b. Jossel, the Rabbi (1) at Pesach, was recorded as Hertzberg and his son Jossel b. Eliahiu as Herzenberg, the Rabbi (2) at Piltene.
[If you are a Herzenberg, then you will know how many times your name has been misspelt in your lifetime. My favourite to date is in the current London telephone directory where the erroneous entry reads Herverdenberg.]
In Russian the 'z' is substituted for a 'c'.
Clearly the early Herzenbergs did not stay in one location, namely: Kurland(Latvia). They spread outwards, to Lithuania, Estonia, Russia, Poland, Germany, France and Sweden. These being the countries where we have established their presence. The Nordic family of Hertzenbergs record shows Michael as the first in their line. He may well have been one of our descendants. Today their family are Nordic and of the Lutheran religion. In Estonia there were families that were very prominent in the Estonia navy through the 1700s. While their names suggest a Jewish origin, clearly at that time they were Christians. A branch of German Herzenbergs appears around 18....
Political events have had much to do with determining our future. The pogroms and hardships before the turn of the 1800/1900 century saw a number of Herzenbergs depart for the New World. Later, WW1 saw others leave Europe. The threat of WW2 saw an exodus from Latvia with a number finding their way to Bolivia, South Africa and as far afield as Australia. Few Holocaust survivors found their way to these new lands. When you read actual names of our family who were led out into Riga and Libau forests and shot, it brings it all tragically home.
Today, we have many orthodox or progressive Jewish families still in the tree, whilst others no longer practice Judaism. Many Herzenberg men and women have married others of different faiths.
For the future...we remain a family, all proud of our heritage and our name.
EXCERPTS from A LETTER from LEN YODAIKEN To The Family.
The Jewish Historical events of the early 19th century.
It would appear that the Herzenbergs started off as being an orthodox Jewish family in a homogeneous Baltic World (called Litvaks or Misnagdim) as distinct from Poland-Hungary who were largely Hassidim the latter was a break that went back to the 18th century. At the beginning of the 19th century in Germany a movement called the Enlightenment (Haskala) Movement started with a philosophy expounded by Rabbi Moses Mendelsohn, the grandfather of Felix the composer. This very simply said that a Jew could be observant in his own home and lead a full Jewish life there whilst in the outside world he could mingle with, dress like and adopt some of the culture of his host nation. Kurland was very influenced by everything German and so were many of its Jews. I believe that this was the initial cause of the distancing of the two parts of the family. Harold's family with its Rabbis married into Lithuanian families - Idelson, Hodes etc. To the Lithuanian Jews the Enlightenment movement was a move to assimilation and was therefore anathema to them. Leonardo's family appears to have followed the German school with many German names and German as distinct from Yiddish as a household language.
Names and naming practices.
Jews in Eastern Europe usually had at least two and often 3 names. Their Hebrew name, Osher (Asher), Eleazer, Arye etc. were used often in combination with their Yiddish names in the synagogue and on their tombstones. Their Yiddish names, Lemchen, Leiser, Leib etc. were used in their daily activities and often with the authorities until such time as they adopted civil names largely as a result of the above mentioned process. Then names such as Ludwig, Leopold, William etc. appeared. A Jewish child was called after a deceased grandparent, firstly paternal, if the paternal grandparent was still living or if he/she was the second child they were then called after the maternal grandparent - then followed great grandparents uncles etc. This is the basis for extrapolation. To carry it a little further.
In the synagogue you were called up to the Torah by your own name and your patronymic that is your father's name. Likewise on a tombstone in Hebrew is inscribed the name of the deceased as well as his patronymic.
All this makes for a tremendous tool for Jewish Genealogy.
Extrapolation.
We obviously don't start our families at Adam and Eve, but chose a starting point from which we have solid information. In the case of the Herzenbergs the starting point is the family information that Alexandrs Feigmanis found in the Censuses from 1811 and 1815. from 1811 we have Eliahu the son of Joseph b. 1771, from 1815 we have Lemchen the son of Joseph b. 1772. Also from 1815 we have Levin (Leib) son of Lemchen b. 1798. As a generation is usually considered to be between 25 and 30 years on average the latter Lemchen (the father) would have been born around 1768 - 1773. My conclusion was that both Lemchens were called after a common grandfather and made him the apex of the family. Working on this basis you realise very quickly that the earlier you go, the smaller the range of names there were in the family. As new wives come into the family so more names are added. So if for example I take the name Hirsh or Tvi Hirsh. We find that he is the son of Rebecca Idelson Herzenberg and I have found a contemporary Idelson family whose patriarch was Tvi Hirsh thus accounting for the entrance of that name into the family. I suspect that William Gabriel came into Gail's family in a similar manner. It would be interesting to have his Jewish name.
To look for connections between the civil names is not as productive as there are no defined connections if you do not know the parent's name..
Information is the US Social Security Death Records.
They have listed over 30 Herzenberg entries, a few of whom I have identified. For the sum of $7 they will give you the contents of the Social Security application forms which include the names and maiden name of the deceased's parents. These in turn may tie a few branches together. They also give the place of death so that it is possible to find the Jewish cemetery nearby in which they were buried.
WHAT'S IN A NAME!
IDENTIFYING GERMAN NAMES - Taken from an unknown WWW site
If you know a little German, you will be able to recognise names more easily; however, if you do not know German there are a number of clues to look for.
Look for names which begin with sch, the consonant cluster and sound represented in English by sh, like in shoe: Schaefer (Schafer, Schaeffer, Schaffer, Shaffer), Schlitz, Schluter, Schmid (Schmidt, Schmitt, Schmitz), Schneider, Schrader, Schroeder, Schul(t)z (Schulz, Shulz), Schumacher, Schu(h)mann, and Schwar(t)z.
Look for names with ue (ü), oe (ö), indicating umlauts; beginning with Kn: Knopf, Knecht, Knefler, Kno(e)del; beginning with Pf: Pflaume, Pfrommer, Pfister, Pfizer; beginning with Str: Stroh.
Names with ei are mostly German (but not all): Reichmann, Reimann, Reimers, Eisenhower, Heilemann, Klein, Weimer, Weiss.
Neu is German for new: Neuman(n), Neuberger, Nieman(n), Nauman(n).
If a name ends in -mann, -burg, -berg, -lich, -stein, or -t(h)al, it is a likely indication that the name is German. But in certain settlement areas, these endings could also refer to Swedish and Russian Jewish backgrounds. There are German place names ending in -burg (castle), -bruck (bridge), -furt (ford), -berg (mountain), -reuth, -rode (clearing in woods).
Many German names have their roots in the Germanic middle ages. The process of forming family names began around the year 1100 and extended through 1600. All social classes and demographic strata aided in the development of names. ENTRY (Rufnamen) identified specific persons. Over time the first name began to be applied to the bearer's whole family. At first through verbal usage, family names (Familiennamen) were later fixed through writing. Until the 17th century, first names played a more important role. In East Friesland, family names originated the latest.
The earliest family names derived from the ENTRY (Patronym). Later ENTRY. If a person of family migrated from one place to another they were identified by ENTRY. Of more recent origin are ENTRY, ENTRY. These names comprise the largest group and the most easily recognizable, for they tell what the first bearer did for a living. Another group are ENTRY. Finally, there are ENTRY; the age old division in tribes and regions (low German, middle German and upper German) is often reflected in names. For non-German speakers they are at first hard to "localize." Names from along the Dutch border, and some of the names from Northern Germany, sound much like Dutch or English names, respectively.
FIRST NAMES
Names in blue appear in the Herzenberg Tree
Old Germanic First Names (and their short forms)
Masculine: Albert, Albrecht, Armin, Arno, Benno, Bernd, Bernhard, Berthold, Bruno, Burkhard, Daniel, Detlev, Dieter, Dietmar, Dirk, Eberhard, Edmund, Erik, Ernst, Erwin, Ewald, Ferdinand, Frank, Freddi(y), Friedrich, Friedl, Fritz, Gerhard, Gu(ü)nt(h)er, Hagen, Harald, Hartmut, Heiko, Heinrich, Heinz, Helge, Helmut, Hendrik, Henning, Herbert, Hermann, Holger, Horst, Hubert, Hugo, Ingo, Karl, Karl-Heinz, Konrad, Kurt, Lothar, Ludwig, Lutz, Manfred, Meinhard, Olaf, Oskar, Otto, Rainer, Ralf, Reinhard, Richard, Robert, Roland, Rolf, Rudolf, Rudi, Rüdiger, Siegfried, Sven, Thorsten, Udo, Ulrich, Uwe, Volker, Volkmar, Walter, Wernher, Wilhelm, Willi, Wolf, Wolfgang, Wulf
Feminine: Adele, Astrid, Berta, Birgit, Brigitte, Brunhilde, Carla, Carola, Carolin, Dagmar, Dora, Doris, Edith, Elfrieda, Elisabeth, Elke, Elsa, Erika, Eva, Eva-Maria, Friedrike, Friedl, Gertrud(e), Gisela, Gudrun, Hedwig, Heidi, heike, Helga, Helge, Hilde, Hulda, Inge, Ingrid, Isolde, Liebgard, Mathilde, Mechthild, Sieglinde, Sigrid, Ute, Walburga.
German first names and short forms derived from biblical names, Latin, Greek or other:
Masculine: Achim, Adrian, Alex, Ali, Alois, Andreas, Anton, August, Axel, Benjamin, Bjorn, Christian, Christoph, Clemens, Dagobert, Daniel, Emil, Eugen, Felix, Florian, Franz, Georg, Gustav, Hannes, Hans, Hans-Jörg, Hans-Peter, Jakob, Jam, Jens, Joachim, Jochen, Jörg, Johannes, Johann, Josef, Julian, Jürgen, Kai, Kai-Olaf, Karsten, Klaus, Leopold, Leo, Lorenz, Lukas, Markus, Martin, Matthias, Maximilian, Max, Michael, Moritz, Nikolaus, Paul, Peter, Philipp, Sebastian, Sepp, Stefan, Theo, Thomas, Tobias, Viktor, Xaver
Feminine: Alexandra, Andrea, Angelika, Anna, Aneliese, Annemarie, Barbara, Bärbel, Beate, Catharina, Charlotte, Christa, Christel, Christiane, Christine, Cornelia, Daniela, Dor, Doris, Elisabeth, Elsa, Eva, Eva-Marie, Franziska, Gabi, Gabrielle, Brete, Grete, Gretchen, Hannelore, Helene, Ilse, Inge, Irene, Johanna, Julia, Juliana, Jutta, Karin, Käthe, Kathrin, Krista, Laura, Lena, Liesl, Lieselotte, Lotte, Luise, Margot, Maria, Marianne, Margarethe, Marike, Renate, Rita, Rosamunde, Rosamarie, Ruth, Sabine, Sandra, Sara, Sofia, Stefanie, Steffi, Susanne, Susi, Thea, Therese, Trixi, Ulla, Ulrike, Ursula, Uschi, Valerie, Vera, Veronika.
Family names derived from first name of first bearer: Albrecht (Albright), Eberhard(t), Georg(e), Lorenz, Ott(o), Paul(us), Reinhard, Thomas, Werner.
Dating back to the old Germanic world: Albrecht (Albright), Die(d)trich, Gu(ü)nther, Hagen, Hildebrandt, Hillenbrand, Oswald, Siegfried (Seyfried). Short forms: Dietrich-Dietz, Friedrich-Fritz, Konrad-Kunz (Koons), Heinrich-Hinz, Ludwig-Lutz.
Names of saints: Benjamin, Daniel, Lukas, Matthias, Matthäus, Paulus, Ruprecht, Nikolaus.
Names derived from the place of dwelling and location of the homestead: Zumwald - at the forest; Kaltenbach - cold creek; Waldschmidt - smith at/in the woods. Meer - from the sea, ocean; Borg (northern German) or Burg - from or near a fortified castle; Bullwinkel - corner where bulls are kept; Adler (zum Adler) - eagle, may have derived from a house name; Rabe - crow.
The place a person came from: Battenberg (Mountbatten), Battenfeld; Cullen from Koeln/Cologne; Dannenberg, town of Dannenberg - pine-tree covered mountain, name of three places in Germany; Dresdner from Dresden; Halpern or Halperin - one who came from Heilbronn in Württemberg; Mel(t)zer - can be a brewer or a person who came from Meltz; Berlin, Klutz and Lowenthal - place names in Germany; Silberg - two place names in Germany; Stein - numerous villages in German-speaking countries; stone, rock, marker; Sternberg - ten places in Germany; Shapiro, Shapira, Shapero, Shapera - one from Spyer, in the middle ages spelled Spira, and by Jews spelled Shapira; Pollack - one who came from Poland; Frank - from Franconia; Rockower, Rockow - ow is frequent and only in the low lands of Germany; Schlesinger - one who came from Silesia or Schleusingen in Thuringia; Schwei(t)zer - person from Switzerland, but also a dairyman.
Names derived from the vocation of profession of first bearer: Arzt - doctor; Bader - barber; Bauer - farmer; Bauman(n) - builder; Becker - baker; Brenner - distiller; Brauer, Breuer - brewer, brower, brewster; Eisenhauer, Eisenhower - iron cutter, miner; Fa(e)rber - dyemaker, painter; Fischer - fisher; Fleischer - butcher; Gebauer - peasant or tiller of the field; Gerber - tanner; Kaiser - Emperor; Kellerman - worker or dweller in a wine cellar or tavern; Kessler - coppersmith, one who sold or made cettles; Kramer - merchant; Kreisler, Kreusler - from curly, also spinning top; Krieg, Krieger - war, warrior, in Yiddish could mean tavern keeper; Ku(e)ster - sexton, Ku(e)nstler - artist or skilled artisan; Lederer, Lederman(n) - leather maker, tanner; Lehrer - teacher; Lesser - custodian of a forest, game keeper; Lichtermann - one who lit lamps, lamplighter; Lichtman - candle maker; Maurer - stone mason; Mehler (Mahler) - painter; Mehlinger, Mehlman(n), Melman - one who works with flour; Metzger - butcher; Mu(e)ller - miller; Nachtman(n) - night watchman; Pfannenschmidt - maker of pots and pans; Postman(n) - postal worker, (also a person from Postau); Puttkam(m)er - person who cleans rooms; Rader - wheelwright, one who makes wheels; or a person from Raden (moor, reedy place), one who thatched with reed; Reifsneider, Reifsnyder - one who made barrel hops; Reiter - horseman, also one who cleared land for tilling; Richter - judge or magistrate; Saltz, Saltzman(n) - one who processed and sold salt; Sandler - one who carts sand, repairs shoes, a cobbler; Scha(e)fer, Schaf, Schaap - shepherd; Schaffer, Shaffer - administrator; Schenker - one who kept a public house; Scherer - one who shaved others, a barber; Schlosser - locksmith; Schlu(e)ter - the keeper of supplies; Schmidt - smith; Schmuker, Schmu(c)kler - one who decorates, ornaments; Schneider and Schroeder - tailor; Schultz, Schultheis - village mayor; Schreiber - secretary or scribe; Schreiner - cabinet maker; Schubert - one who made or sold shoes; Schulman(n) - school or synagogue man; Schumacher, Schu(h)man(n), Schuster - shoe maker, cobbler; Steinhauer - one who cuts and breaks stone; Studebaker - one who prepared or sold pastries; Wagner - wagoner, wagon maker; Weber - weaver; Wechsler - money changer.
Names derived from a physical or ther characteristic of first bearer: Altmann - old man; Hellmann - light man; Dick - fat person; Klein - short; Lange - the long one; Kurz - the short one; Lustig - happy person; Grossmann - the big one; Rot(h)bart - red beard; Weiss - white appearance; Schwar(t)z - black appearance; Schwarzkopf - black haired; Sus(s)man - affectionate person; Unruh - agitator or trouble maker; Schatz - treasure; Stamm, Stump - trunk (as of a tree); Stammler - stutterer; Stock - stick, tree trunk.
After days of the week: Montag, Freitag, Sonntag; or Month: May.
Relating to objects/materials: Hammer - hammer; Nagel - nail; Knopf - button; Stahl - steel; Eisen - iron; Erzberger - 
Herzenbergs, Unconnected (I3096)
 
4830 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Indian child adopted by Jacob Hamblin.

2. According to 17 Jul 2002 Ancestry.com database "dtjohnston," the Mary Hamblin who married John Mangum was born 1832 in Canada and died 1893 in Pima, Graham, AZ. This is a major error; that Mary Hamblin is the widow of William Haynes Hamblin who died 1872 in Nevada. Mary Hamblin is in the 1880 census at Springerville, Apache, AZ as a widow with two children. Her maiden name is Mary Amelia Leavitt, born in 1832 in Canada and died 1893 in Arizona. William was the brother to Jacob Hamblin.

3. The marriage sealing in 26 Jul 1870 EHOUS as cited below, shows Mary Hamblin b. 1852 at Merthyr Tydfil, Galmorgan, Wales, and John Mangum, b. 10 Jun 1817 at Saint Clair County, Alabama. I do not know why Wales is mentioned for Mary because clearly she was not from Wales - would they have misled the temple officials in Salt Lake City as to her origins because of some onus against temple marriages with Indians?

4. Censuses:
1860 US: Mary is not with the Jacob Hamblin family in Tonaquint, Washington, Utah.

1870 US: Kanab, Kane, Utah, p. 2 of 2, family 9 (next door to brother James Mangum and also to Jacob Hamblin):
John Mangrun, 50, farmer, NY.
Marian, 48, keeping house, NY.
Joseph, 19, UT.
John, 18, UT.
George, 16, UT.
Syrus, 13, UT.
Abigal, 11, UT
Caroline, 9, UT.
David, 8, UT.
Ellen, 3, UT.
Mary, 16, UT, sernt. (Servant? In reality, this would be John's Indian wife since she appears with his last name. Also her race is marked with an "In" for Indian whereas everyone else in the family is with an "w" for white.)

MARRIAGE:
1. The book "Pioneer Women of Faith and Fortitude" by Daughters of Utah Pioneers mentions Mary Ann Adair Mangum and gives a biography for her. See her notes for a full citation. Mary Ann and John were among the first settlers in Payson, Nephi, Washington County, and Kanab, Utah. They later were sent to Alpine, Arizona to settle. While in St. George they helped with the growing of cotton. John took a second wife, Ellen Bardsley, while in Payson, and Mary Hamblin, the adopted Indian daughter of Jacob Hamblin, became his third wife.

DEATH:
1. The journal of James Lovett Bunting, 1832-1923, contains the following entry on p. 158 [161] from the fort at Kanab, Utah: "Jan. 7 1871. The Measels had been brought into the Fort by one of Bro John Mangum's boys 3 weeks since and by this time it had spread throught the greater part of the Fort. Sunday 8th Jan'ry Two cases of Measels had proved fatal James Mangum's son - age 8 and John Mangum's wife (Squaw) age 17 years. Went to meeting in the a.m. & in the p.m. attended the funeral of John Mangum's wife." James Bunting was in the Black Hawk War in 1866 and then moved to Kanab, Utah. His diary is at http://overlandtrails.byu.edu. Copy of page on file. 
Hamblin, Mary (I3429)
 
4831 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Information from Peter Bruce Herzenberg from his website: Wife is Margaret Renee Ellen Longshaw, b. 5 Apr 1950 who he married 1 Oct 1970 in Salisbury, Rhodesia. They have two children: Collette Geniene, b. 1 Jun 1973, and Jaysen, b. 1 Sep 1976. Parents are Herman Herzenberg and Marjorie Yeend Mitchell. Grandfather is Samuel (ben Eleazer) [Yiddish: Leiser]. Peter was b. 17 Jul 1946 in Klerksdorp, South Africa.

2. Data from a copy captured of Peter Bruce Herzenberg's website of London, England, since relocated to South Africa (website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007). See more on his research and data in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg in this database. Sources for this individual are HL for Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes). In regards to this individual:
Names Samuel or Shmuel bar Eleazar.
HL016 shows b. 1867 in Libava, Latvia, d. 5 Dec 1934 in Klerksdorp, South Africa, m. Glaser.
YL.
HW.
HG017.
Peter also notes: "Samuel - He seems correctly placed, except he is mentioned in Gabriel William's records as having left for South Africa in 1880 and a close relative. This is consistent with his descendants recollections. Samuel's name on his grave stone in South Africa reads: 'Shmuel Bar Eleazer'. This suggests that Zvi Hirsh may also have been known as Eleazar and Samuel was his son. While Gabriel's records say the names are in age order which appears to throw Samuel 'out'. Still, he is shown and therefore as a son, he would have been the eldest brother, born in 1867. Since 30 years would have passed between Gabriel's, first recollections, say aged 10, and Samuel having left Latvia in 1880, it is not inconceivable he would not have had any recollections other than a name, and then unsure where to place him."
Trader. Left Latvia for the USA in 1881, aged 14. In 1884 he went to South Africa where he opened the largest trading store on the gold reef, supplying the mines. Bad luck plagued him; a fire putting paid to his fortunes, and an early onset of Parkinson's disease made work impossible. The Glaser family supported his wife and three children.

3. Len Yodaiken in his paid research report "The Herzenbergs of Piltene and Liepaja Latvia," 1 Jan 2000, shows name as Samuel Solomon Herzenberg.

MARRIAGE:
1. Date and place are unsubstantiated guesses only by Kerry Petersen.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Samuel or Shmuel (I4023)
 
4832 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Information provided is speculative at best and per Adair family tradition. It is known that Samuel J. Adair had a boy by the name of David Secrist that accompanied him and his family across the plains to Utah. Very little other information is known by me.

2. David is not reported with the Adair family in the 1856 Utah Territorial Census.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per 3 Jan 2002 gedcom of Robin Adair; email: robadair@thegrid.net. He is descendent through Daniel Tyler Adair. 
Sechrist, David L. (I3523)
 
4833 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Interested researcher: Jan Walker, 1084 E. 250 S., Bountiful, Utah 84010, 801-298-8567, swalker@anglia.com

2. No record found for this. This individual is presumed and of the result of the Danish method of first name of father used in succeeding generation. Son's last name is Christensen. 
Christen (I1258)
 
4834 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Interested researcher: Jan Walker, 1084 E. 250 S., Bountiful, Utah 84010, 801-298-8567, swalker@anglia.com

2. No record found for this. This individual is presumed and of the result of the Danish patronymic method of first name of father used in succeeding generation. Son's last name is Jakobsen. 
Jakob (I1262)
 
4835 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Interested researcher: Jan Walker, 1084 E. 250 S., Bountiful, Utah 84010, 801-298-8567, swalker@anglia.com

BIOGRAPHY:
1. Was Priest of Helligsø Parish in 1590. Was an extremely poor parish and the priest probably lived in no more than a ramshackle hovel. Priests were usually referred to with title of Mister and then first name with the surname dropped. The first Lutheran priest in Helligsø was Joergen (he might have been a catholic priest or monk), the second was Jens Gertsen, the third Peder Jensen or Jacobsen, and this ancestor was the fourth from 1590 to 1610.

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per research notes of J.V. Praestegaard, Lunegaardsvej 33, 7752 Snedsted, Denmark. Mr. Praestegaard is descendent of this individual as well, lives in the area, is a very thorough researcher, and has access to tax, insurance, and other records (predating typical parish records) located in the Viborg regional archives in Denmark. 
Jakobsen, Anders (I1565)
 
4836 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Interested researcher: Jan Walker, 1084 E. 250 S., Bountiful, Utah 84010, 801-298-8567, swalker@anglia.com

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per Gedcom 18 Mar 1999 of Dawn Van Duren, 5273 Skeeswood Dr., Taylorsville, UT, 84118, 801-968-6300, T.VanDuren@Hotmail.com

2. Per research notes of J.V. Praestegaard, Lunegaardsvej 33, 7752 Snedsted, Denmark. Mr. Praestegaard is descendent of this individual as well, lives in the area, is a very thorough researcher, and has access to tax, insurance, and other records (predating typical parish records) located in the Viborg regional archives in Denmark. 
Pedersen, Anders (I1656)
 
4837 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Interested researcher: Jan Walker, 1084 E. 250 S., Bountiful, Utah 84010, 801-298-8567, swalker@anglia.com

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per Gedcom 18 Mar 1999 of Dawn Van Duren, 5273 Skeeswood Dr., Taylorsville, UT, 84118, 801-968-6300, T.VanDuren@Hotmail.com.

2. Per research notes of J.V. Praestegaard, Lunegaardsvej 33, 7752 Snedsted, Denmark. Mr. Praestegaard is descendent of this individual as well, lives in the area, is a very thorough researcher, and has access to tax, insurance, and other records (predating typical parish records) located in the Viborg regional archives in Denmark. Phone: 97934166. 
Nielsdatter, Maren (I1668)
 
4838 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Interested researcher: Jan Walker, 1084 E. 250 S., Bountiful, Utah 84010, 801-298-8567, swalker@anglia.com

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Per research notes of J.V. Praestegaard, Lunegaardsvej 33, 7752 Snedsted, Denmark. Mr. Praestegaard is descendent of this individual as well, lives in the area, is a very thorough researcher, and has access to tax, insurance, and other records (predating typical parish records) located in the Viborg regional archives in Denmark. Phone: 97934166. 
Pallesen, Anders (I1477)
 
4839 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Irene Petersen has a photo of Robert's calling card. The card is from her mother, Catherine Werblovsky, who died in 1972. Irene indicates that after her mother left Washington DC, they came to Stockholm for a short while perhaps due to the Bolshevik Revolution. She evidently may have seen Robert at that time. The card reads simply: "Robert Herzenberg, ÄngskÄrsgatan 4, Stockholm, Tel. 69 44 09. No business is mentioned.

2. Website of Peter Bruce Herzenberg of London, England (since relocated to South Africa). Website is no longer functioning as of 7 Aug 2007. Copies of much of his data from the website in my possession. He indicates references by codes, which pertain to the original source and file held in his database, which I have not seen. I have no key to the sources except HL is Leonardo Herzenberg, HG is Gail Herzenberg, PC is probably Piltene Cemetery records, LA is probably Latvian Archives, FA is probably Aleksandrs Feigmanis (Latvian researcher hired by Harold Hodes), and YL is Len Yodaiken (Israeli researcher hired by Harold Hodes); however, he lists the main researchers and their contributions in a lengthy report which I include in full in the notes of the earliest Herzenberg of this database. In regards to this individual:
YL160 notes Robert b. 1892 in Mitau, d. 1980 in Stockholm, md. to Flachs.
HL059 notes Robert.

3. Received 30 Apr 2009 a copy of the following from Irene Gottleib Slatter entitled "Archival Reference about Brenson Family. It was prepared for Nina Kossman Dec 2006 and is report no. 3-K-7622; 7794N by Latvijas Valsts Vestures Arhivs (Latvian National Archives), Slokas iela 16, Riga, LV-1007. The following is only a partial transcript concerning this individual; please see the notes of Isidor Brenson within this database to see full and complete transcript including sources and documentation:
"...David, son of Robert Herzenberg, born on July 17 of 1864 in Mitau, 2nd guild merchant, since 1915 - 1st guild merchant, the Hereditary Honourable Citizen. His wife Sophia, daughter of Abram Herzenberg was born on August 20 (Gregorian calendar) of 1869 in Mitau. According to the birth records Klara Herzenberg was born on August 8 (Julian calendar) of 1869 in Mitau, her father was Abram Herzenberg and mother Teresa, daughter of Joseph, nee Herzenberg. We suppose that Sophia and Klara might be one and the same person. The marriage of David and Sophia was registered on January 7 of 1890 in Mitau. They had children:
- son Robert, born on December 13 of 1892 in Mitau.
- daughter Jenny (Eugenia), born on October 18 of 1896 in Mitau.
- daughter Flora, born on February 8 of 1898 in Mitau.
Since 1935 a widow Sophia and her daughters Eugenia and Flora lived in Riga at Lacplesa Street 9, apt. 11. In 1939 Robert Herzenberg, a correspondent by profession, his wife Beila and son David-Harry were registered as living in Riga at Lacplesa Street 9, apt. 11. They left for Sweden in August - September of 1939. Eugenia married to Lev Wolozhinski, born on January 15 of 1891 in Riga. Sophia, Eugenia, Lev were struck off the house register of Lacplesa Street 9 in July 19-21 of 1941 (during Nazi occupation), obviously they were sent to ghetto. Lev Wolozhinsky was killed in July of 1941. Flora married to Nechemy/Nikolay Friedlender, born on December 21 of 1880 in Mitau. They lived at Elizabetes Street 27, apt. 2 and were struck off the house register on August 14 of 1941 a moved to Maskavas Street 171, apt. 4. According to the records of the Soviet Extraordinary State Commission for 1945, Nechemy and Flora were killed in 1941."

BIOGRAPHY:
1. 28 Jul 2007 Http://www.herzenberg.net/leo/htmlrh/Content.html copyrighted by Leo Herzenberg:
"An meinen Sohn (To my son) Leonhard Herzenberg von (from) Robert Herzenberg. Memoirs written during the 1940's." Translated during the 1990's by Leonardo (Leonhard) Herzenberg. The entire memoir is quite lengthy and included in its entirety in my notes with Joseph Herzenberg, the original known ancestor, in this database. The following is only the portion dealing with this part of the family:
"SOPHIE Herzenberg was very beautiful and cultured . She played the piano very well, and painted, but only by copying; she also accomplished spottily in burn painting . She married her cousin David Herzenberg in Mitau. It was a very unharmonious marriage, even though there were three children, Robert, Genja, and Flora. [55]
David had very little understanding for Sophie, who was a very modern woman. They lived in Mitau in the nice old paternal house. David led the firm of his late father. When Uncle Abraham died and the firm Abraham Herzenberg was moved to Riga, Sophie and the children moved there also. David usually came to visit in Riga on Sundays - it did not come to a divorce, but in practice they lived separated. David worked and earned in Mitau, and Sophie lived and dissipated [lebte und verlebte] in Riga, always surrounded by a swarm of admirers. I don't know exactly when David died, Robert had finally become a businessman and lived and married in Reval, and lastly lived in Stockholm. Sophie and the girls led a wandering life, alternately in Riga and Germany. Always from the earnings of the business in Mitau and from the sale of the house. Finally they settled down in Riga, where Genja and Flora [56] had married a few years earlier."

2. The following undated paper was written late 1969 in Nice, France by Catherine Werblovsky Olympieff (also known as Ekaterina Werblovskaya Olympieva) at the request of Patrick Landau through his aunt Alice Nikitina. Patrick's father, Vladimir Landau, even though he was Catherine's cousin, had less knowledge on the family then Catherine. Catherine was the granddaughter of Edouard and Rebecca Herzenberg. The letter was written a couple of years before Catherine's death after she entered into an assisted care facility in Nice. The paper was recently found among personal items previously gathered about 1969 by her daughter Irene Nadia de Lanskoy Petersen. Portions of the letter were written in three languages: English, French, and Russian. Irene, in transcribing the letter, notes that the letter was hard to follow and to make sense of. Irene's transcription dated 31 Jul 2007 with her notes added in [ ].
"What concerns the father and mother of our mother's: Mother's father: Edouard Ocipovitch Herzenberg [or Gerzenberg] Edward son of Joseph Herzenberg born: in Mitava [or Mittau] not far ___, Baltic Provinces - not far from Riga. He died at 76 years of age (had diabetes and malaria) from lung congestion after flu. His wife was his cousin.
Rebecca Herzenberg also married a first cousin. I am not sure of the name of her father; she died in Moscow when I was 6 years old (70 years ago). [Death would be approximately 1899?]
They were probably married in Mitawa and came to Moscow young, because all their children were born in Moscow. The eldest 1) Elizabeth 2) Sonja [or Sonia] (Sofia) mother of Manja or Mania who now lives in Moscow, who had a sister Nadja or Nadia who was born in Moscow. Sonia's husband was Adolf Schneider - son of Aaron Schneider - who had 3 more sons: Nicolas, Alexander, Serge and a daughter Elizabeth Schneider. She got married with Martin Behr (English nationality); they had two children and lived in Moscow. Mrs. Elizabeth Behr died in London (after the Russian Revolution she lived in France, later in England.) Her brother Adolf Schneider was a brother-in-law of our mother's of course.) [This is a repeat of the above.] The Behrs had 2 children. Elisabeth Behr died in London (probably her husband Martin Behr died before.) Mrs. Behr's daughter Olga died in London about a year ago [1968-69?], her brother George Behr still lives in London is married (has 1 daughter who is married too and has 2 boys, 8 and 7.
So my mother Elisabeth was the eldest daughter of Edward and Rebecca Herzenberg born in Moscow like her sister Sonia, the next sister Flora born in Moscow. Flora, married Joseph Offenbacher, had one son Lotar (my first cousin as well as yours). She, her husband, and son died in Germany during the war of Hitler (son Lothar). [Irene notes that another family account says that Lothar committed suicide on account of the war.] [His father] Joseph Offenbacher had an older brother Vasily [William or Wilhelm] Offenbacher who married a cousin of our mother's - Fanny, daughter of Abra[ha]m (whom all children of Edward Herzenberg used to call Uncle Abraham.) He was the husband of Grandfather Edward Herzenberg's sister Theresa. His family name was also like all: Herzenberg. Theresa Herzenberg had many children - daughter Fanny, sons Ludwig, Harry, and 2 other sons and another daughter Sophia married to another Herzenberg (all those marriages were between cousins) who had three children, Robby (Robert) who lives in Sweden and 2 daughters Clara and Roberta (died in Riga - Bolshevik Revolution). [I am not sure if Clara and Roberta are correct for this family grouping.] After Flora Herzenberg, the 4th daughter was my Aunt Anjuta [Anna Herzenberg-Landau]. Then there was another one Genga (Eugenie) married Harry Taube from Riga - were killed by Hitler's army. She was the 5th daughter of Edward Herzenberg. The 6th was Lilja [Lilia] (1st wife of Uncle Max Landau - died in Davos, Switzerland from TB.) Then was another daughter Milja, died very young (she was the 7th daughter). The youngest daughter Tonya [Tonia] died in Moscow. Then there were two brothers, the oldest Ivan (John) married a French young girl from Mussidan, Dordogne, France. She was daughter of the Mayor of that town. Died in the north of Russia where - she was sent sick and was sent with her to Mourmansk (north of Russia). Uncle Vanja's [Vania, Ivan, John all same name wife Lydia died there [note her maiden name was Lydie Buisson]. Uncle Vanja died too in Bolshevik Revolution. Their 3 children: Micha (Michel) died probably in Moscow; his brother Andrei (Andre) Herzenberg and Suzanne Hindzee (Herzenberg) - 1st husband (French) Volant. She has a daughter in Toronto married in Toronto (Alja [or Alice Nikitina] knew her) who has two children, boy and girl. The father's family name is A. [Albert?] Statter - wife Lydie (Suzanne's daughter) - son Albert. [Irene's note: last known address was 33 Stonegate Road, Toronto, Canada, M8Y-1V8; phone 416-251-6295.]
There was yet other families related to us through our mother's. It was a well known dentist. His name was Kovarsky. His wife was the cousin of our mother's. They had a lot of children - 3 brothers Misha (Michael), Leva (Leon), 2 daughters Choura (Alexandra). Chura who now is same age as Suzanne [Herzenberg Hindzee] - the only one alive. I forget the name of the eldest brother deceased. Manja (Mania) in Moscow knows more about that family. What was the name of the mother cousin of our mother's-probably it was yet another of the Herzenberg family. As Alja [Alice Nikitina] will be going to Moscow she will be able to find out more form Manja [Mania]. Then there was yet another family related to the wife of our grandfather through the husband or wife Idelson. There was a girl Lisa Idelson and her brother. I think that Manja must know something about them. They lived in Moscow. I used to go see them with my mother when I was about 8 or 10 years old.
Now George Behr has written from London thanking me for my sympathy condolences on account of the death of his sister Olga Behr. She must have been older than 78 years. he thought that his aunt on his father's side, Nina Karlovna died in Moscow, as well as his cousin Leija, but I think it is relatives on the side of his father Bahr, and the cousin is perhaps of the Schneider family (it is possible that the cousin is still living). All these people lived in Moscow.
Now what concerns the Packschwer family. The one that came to see you with the Vietnamese wife has passed away. His name was Julien Packschwer born in Vitebesk, Russia. He was 72. His younger brother Saveijn (Sahva) engineer in London named himself Packshaw, died in England 3 weeks before Julien, leaving a widow (2nd marriage) and 2 children. It was the death of his younger brother that caused reaction on Julien Packshwer. He died 3 weeks after him. He was found on a street in Nice, France with a cerebral hemorrhage-fell in the street. Police took him to the hospital St. Rock where he died at 19 hours in the evening and remained in a coma. His car 2 CV (small) stayed in the parking where he had left it. It was only his Vietnamese wife [Mado] returning from Saigon 1 month after his death that was able to retrieve that car from the parking. Yet another day or two, it would have been impounded. But as it was the widow herself then came. They did not charge her anything. But as the car was her husband's-she has to wait by inheritance law to be able to sell it and divide up in 4 parts to his children. The eldest son of another marriage Leon is an eye doctor in Paris, then 3 other children. Oldest Robert in Montreal, CA; another son in ___ was in the navy for 3 years. The oldest was in the Air force, married a girl from Morocco - they are going to have a child soon. The daughter Irene married, has a little boy, the husband is serving in the military; they live in Cayrons near Vence, France in the Packshwer house. The widow/mother Mado inherited ¼ of the sum, the children ¾ divided in 4 for each of the 4 children. Through a real estate in Vence, Julien's house of 1000 sq. meters is worth 18 million francs. If the children keep the house, they will in turn need to give on fourth of the cost to the widow who also has the right to half of his monthly pension of 30,000 francs. She came to see me day before yesterday and told me all these details. So here you have it-the relatives. The mother of the Packshwer father was 1st cousin of our mother's through the daughter of the sister of our grandfather Edward Herzenberg maiden name Theresa Herzenberg died in Nice, born I think in Mitawa [Mitau], Baltic Provinces. She was buried with her husband in Nice at the Caucade cemetery.
Now I add what George Behr wrote from London that his wife Janet has seen Aunt Anjuta [Anna Herzenberg] in Monte Carlo, then he wrote about his cousin in Moscow who he thinks has passed away (he is going to find out about it from Manja-he asked their address in Monaco). She was the daughter of the oldest sister Polina Aronovna of his mother. Here is what concerns that family... [Balance of letter missing]."

BIRTH:
1. Ancestry.com's "Sweden, Births from the Swedish Death Index":
Robert Herzenberg, b. 13 Dec 1892, birth country: Ryssland (Russia).
Beila Herzenberg, b. 10 Sep 1896, birth country: Estland (Estonia).

MARRIAGE:
1. Date and place are unsubstantiated guesses only by Kerry Petersen.

BURIAL:
1. Website Find-a-Grave (Find A Grave Memorial# 90592253) accessed 28 Nov 2013 for the Southern Jewish Cemetery (Södra Judiska Begravningsplatsen) was created in the 1940`s and lies south of the Woodland Cemetery (Skogskyrkogården) in Sköndal in the southern parts of Stockholm. Address and plot: Stockholm, Stockholms Lan, Sweden; plot: block U, nr. 84:
Beila "Berta" Herzenberg; birth: Sep. 10, 1896, Estonia; death: Dec. 20, 1981 at Ostermalm, Stockholms Lan, Sweden. (Find A Grave Memorial# 90592253.)
Robert Herzenberg; birth: Dec. 13, 1892, Russian Frederation; death: Dec. 7, 1980 at Ostermalm, Stockholms Lan, Sweden. (Find A Grave Memorial# 90592221.)
David Herzenberg; birth: Nov. 25, 1925, Ostermalm, Stockholms Lan, Sweden; death: Nov. 21, 2008 at Sodermalm, Stockholms Lan, Sweden. (Find A Grave Memorial# 90592288.)
Photo of grave stone accompanies website with the following inscription:
"[Two letters in Hebrew alphabet.]
Herzenberg
Robert, F. 13.12.1892, D. 7.12.1980
Berta, F. 10.9.1986, D. 20.12.1981
Harry, F. 25.11.1925, D. 21.11.2008"
Separate entry with photo of memorial plaque in the same cemetery on the "Holocaust Memorial Wall": Sophie Herzenberg, b. and d. unknown; died in Riga. (Find A Grave Memorial# 83585145.)

SOURCES_MISC:
1. Leonardo Herzenberg http://www.herzenberg.net/ 
Herzenberg, Robert (I4126)
 
4840 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Isaac Sr., who first appears in the tax records of 1754, would probably be about 21 before showing up in tax records. This would give a birth date of no later than 1733.

2. On 10 Sep 2011, I reviewed various history and genealogical books concerning Winners in pre-1800 Bucks County, Pennsylvania, at the Allen County Library in Fort Wayne, IN. Bucks county is sometimes credited as the source of early Winners who were in adjoining southern New Jersey. I have not found anything that specifically connects to our George King Winner. Possible variant spellings also checked: Weimer, Wenner, Winer, and Winne. My findings:
A. Deeds 1684-1763:
-John Winner, witness to a deed in 1731.
-Sarah Winner, widow of Jacob, deed 1753 to Mary Martin.
-Joseph Smith of Bristol Twp., 1753, to Mary Martin, widow, property sold in 1743 to William Hooper, who died intestate and sheriff sold land to Mary Martin and Sarah Winner, formerly Sarah Hooper.
B. Orphan's Court 1685-1800:
-John Subert/Subers, Middletown Twp. Mentions Sarah, eldest daughter, wife of David Winner, 1789.
-James Winner, son Joseph over age 14 petitons for guardian in 1795.
C. Tax Records 1693-1778 (year, township, name, ₤ value, tax s-d):
-1754, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 10, 1-8, married.
-1754, Middleton, Samuel Winner, 6, 1-0, single.
-1757, Middleton, Isaack Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
-1757, Middleton, John Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
-1760, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0. (Listed next to Joseph below.)
-1760, Middleton, Joseph Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1760, Middleton, Sam'l Winner at Joh. Winr., -, 9-0.
-1762, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0. (Listed next to Joseph below.)
-1762, Middleton, Joseph Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1762, Middleton, Samel Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1766, Bristol, John Winer, 18, 4-6.
-1775, Lower Makefield, John Winner.
-1775, Lower Makefield, James Winner.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Sr., 4, 2-0, married.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Jr., 4, 2-0, married.
-1778, Middleton, James Winner, 6, 3-0, single.
-1778, Middleton, Samuel Winner, 2, 2-0, married. (Listed next to John below.)
-1778, Middleton, John Winner, 3, 1-0, married.
-1778, Lower Makefield, Jacob Winner, 2, 1-0, married.
-1778, Lower Makefield, John Winner, 2, 1-0, married.
-1778, Lower Makefield, Samuel Winner, 3, 3-0, single.
-1778, Bristol, Jos. Winner, 1, 0-10, married.
D. Will abstracts 1685-1785:
-1753, Sarah Winner of Bristol Twp., son Anthony Hooper. Joseph Smith, executor.
-1754, Mentions land in Newtown on which "Joseph Winner lives after decease of wife." Principal of will, David Lavell, appears unrelated.
-1772, John Winner witness to will of Joseph Wilson of Lower Makefield.
-1777, Susan Winner witness to will of Jacob Shouch of Haycock.
E. Index of Wills and Administrations 1684-1850 (did not look up individual documents):
-1748, John Winner, Middletown(?), adm., #628.
-1753, Sarah Winner, Bristol, will, #833.
-1778, Jacob, Southhampton, adm., #1563.
-1791, John Winner, Lower Makefield, will, #2356.
-1796, James Winner, Warwick, adm., #2666.
-1805, Joseph Winner, Bristol, will and adm., #3313.
F. 1779 Tax List:
-Isaac Winner, Sen., Middleton.
-Isaac Winner, Jun., Middleton.
-James Winner's estate, Falls.
-John Winner, Lower Makefield.
-Jos. Winner, Bristol.
-Samuel Winner, Middleton.
G. Oaths of Allegiance:
-1772, James Winner, Lower Makefield.
-1772, Jacob Winner, Southampton.
-1785, Joshua Winner, Bensalem.
-1788, John Winner (weaver), Plumstead.
H. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records 1779," transcribed by Patricia Woodruff January 2001 (Name -Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants), married men:
-Isaac Winner, Jr.-0-0-1-0 -Isaac Winner, Sen.-0-0-1-0 -Samuel Winner-0-0-1-0
I. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Bristol Township Property and Tax Records," transcribed by Patricia Woodruff February 2002 (acres - horses - cattle - servants), married men:
a. 1779:
-Joseph Winner-1-1-1-0
b. 1781
-James Winner, weaver - 0-0-2-0 -Joseph Winner, taylor - 0-1-1-0
J. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011:
a. "Falls Town Township Property and Tax Records 1779": "James Winner's est."
b. "Lower Makefield Township Property and Tax List 1779": "John Winner"
K. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011Middletown Township Property and Tax Records," transcribed by Laura VanSant 2003 (Name-Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants):
a. 1781:
-Isaac Winner, weaver, 0-1-1-0
b. 1782:
-Samuel Winner, 0 0 2 0
c. 1783:
-Sam'l Winner 2.10 [Not the assessment - probably the tax amount of 2 sh. 10 d.]

3. The case for a relationship of the early New Jersey residents Isaac Winner of Dover Township in Monmouth Co., Abraham Winner of Northampton Township in Burlington Co., and John Winner of Great Egg Harbor in Gloucester Co. to Isaac Winner Sr. of Bucks Co., Pennsylvania. Prepared 22 Nov 2011 by Kerry Petersen .
There are two basic groups of Winners circa the Revolutionary War and post era in New Jersey. The oldest are the Winnes of northern New Jersey who derive from the Dutch immigrant Pieter Winne of New Amsterdam and eventually Albany, New York. Their genealogical descendancy is conclusively presented in detail in "The Dutch Settlers Society of Albany Yearbook," v. 40 (1964-1966), pp. 6-28. A branch of this family ended up in upstate New Jersey and we easily follow them in New Jersey probate and other documents. They retained their Dutch roots even in the era of our discussion. They are all accounted for and they remain distinctly separate from our group of Winners. Unfortunately, some of the northern records indiscriminately interchange the surnames Winne and Winner for these families, which has led to confusion. An early Winner researcher from the 1950s, Enid Willardson, spent a lifetime trying to seek a connection from our Winners back through the Winnes, but failed in so doing even after amassing over 3000 Winne names. I have personally reviewed her workpapers after her decease and the tentative connection she contrived to make does not stand up to scrutiny and more modern research. Regrettably it was picked up by the old LDS Ancestral File based upon her submission and has since bled through to many unsuspecting user-submitted online databases. It is not my purpose to detail the Winnes; however, before linking our three early Winners under discussion, it was critical to eliminate the Winne family as a possible ancestry. Suffice it to say that this was done.
This then directs us to look to neighboring Bucks County for the source of our Winners. Any study of early New Jersey records in the three counties we are discussing quickly leads to the conclusion that there were no Winners reported there before our three Winner men. They came from elsewhere then New Jersey. Lets review first Isaac of Dover since his link to Bucks county is easiest to assemble. My descendancy comes from Isaac. We will then link Isaac to Abraham and then Abraham and John.
Isaac WINNER of DOVER:
The following is circumstantial, but very compelling nevertheless. First, I made comprehensive search of all early Winners in both New Jersey and Bucks co., Pennsylvania (abstracts available in the notes of the earliest Winner in my PAF files). With such a comprehensive overview of these early Winners and by process of elimination, I have found a pattern which I believe establishes and follows the ancestry of the earliest Isaac Winner of Dover Twp., Monmouth Co., NJ. - who is our first ancestor in that area. This is my thinking:
Isaac's son Jonathan (who married Sarah Predmore) in the 1850 census in Brown Co., OH, indicates he was born abt. 1778 in Pennsylvania - this is even though we know he was in Dover Twp. circa 1812. Jonathan's birth with him being the first born of Isaac would logically lead us to a marriage there for about 1776. (See separate research into the descendants of Isaac Winner, who also include: Ohio residents John Winner and Hester Ann Mason, Isaac Winner and Mary Catherine Powell, Samuel Winner; California resident George K. Winner; and Monmouth residents Rueben H. Winner and Amy Winner who m. 1. Charles Soper and 2. Jacob Creby/Creeley.)
Another link to Pennsylvania is found with Isaac's son, Isaac (bro. of Jonathan), who is reported to have married his wife Mary Catherine Powell in Philadelphia, PA, per the published biography of Isaac and Mary's son John Leopold Winner (see their notes for transcript).
We also have a personal family history memoir from Isabel (Lambert) Winner, wife of James4 Winner (Benjamin3, Jonathan2, Isaac1) who states that the Winners were from Pennsylvania, probably Bucks county. (Source: 20 Jun 2004 email from descendant Gary Coon who descends from Arnold Coon, Clara Wilding, Leoni Winner, then James.)
Interestingly, we find some records in Bucks county (and New Jersey) that fit the pattern.
A. "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents: "Winner, Isaac, Bucks, PA, and Hannah Searl, Bucks, PA, 1776 Nov. 9." (Familysearch, source film 888709, vol. W, p. 474.) Note that this date fits perfectly with Jonathan's birth discussed above while establishing a link with Bucks County and NJ. In doing an Internet search for this couple on 20 Nov 2011, absolutely no hits were found - this means that this particular couple has never been linked into a family tree or written up on the web even though the marriage record clearly exists. Many with Quaker backgrounds would "marry out of meeting" which would explain a marriage license over the border for two Bucks Co. residents (i.e. a trip to Las Vegas for a no-question marriage).
B. We find only one Isaac Winner in Bucks Co., PA, in the early records. Note however that all of a sudden in 1778/1779 we see both an Isaac Sr. and Jr. together in Middletown. Isaac Jr. shows as married, which concurs with the 1776 marriage discussed above. It also shows Isaac Jr. being in Pennsylvania at the time of the birth of Jonathan in 1778. References to Isaacs in Middletown return to one after 1779 then disappear after 1781. Perhaps Isaac Sr. died thereafter, but more importantly we see our Isaac in the Dover Twp., NJ tax records beginning 1783.
a. "Tax Records 1693-1778" (year, township, name, ₤ value, tax s-d) for Bucks Co.:
-1754, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 10, 1-8, married.
-1757, Middleton, Isaack Winner, 6, 1-0, married.
-1760, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1762, Middleton, Isaac Winner, 4, 1-0.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Sr., 4, 2-0, married.
-1778, Middleton, Isaac Winner Jr., 4, 2-0, married.
b. 1779 Tax List: (Bucks co., PA)
-Isaac Winner, Sen., Middleton.
-Isaac Winner, Jun., Middleton.
c. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011 "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records 1779," transcribed by Patricia Woodruff January 2001 (Name -Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants), married men:
-Isaac Winner, Jr.-0-0-1-0 -Isaac Winner, Sen.-0-0-1-0 -Samuel Winner-0-0-1-0
d. Pagenweb Bucks Co. accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Middletown Township Property and Tax Records," transcribed by Laura VanSant 2003 (Name-Acres-Horses-Cattle-Servants) - all Isaacs disappear after 1781:
-1781: Isaac Winner, weaver, 0-1-1-0
-1782: Samuel Winner, 0 0 2 0
-1783: Sam'l Winner 2.10 [Not the assessment - probably the tax amount of 2 sh. 10 d.]
e. There is an early Isaac Winner in Dover Township; no other Winners are shown in Dover in the same time period. Ancestry.com shows:
-Oct. 1783 Tax List: Isaac Winnir
-June 1786 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-"Name on a petition, 4 Mar 1786, to the Legislature from freeholders and inhabitants of part of Dover Township in Monmouth County asking that a new county be formed because of the distance they have to..."
-June 1789 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1793 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1796 Tax List: Isaac Winner
-June 1797 Tax List: Isaac Winner
Summary: I believe that we are seeing our Isaac, his wife Hannah Searle, and Isaac's father, Isaac, in the above records. Until proven otherwise, I am considering this our ancestral line.
Abraham WINNER of NORTHAMPTON (aka Abraham of Mount Holly):
Abraham is not my direct line so I don't have as much research on his descendants; however, much has been published on Abraham himself. First let's establish what is more or less known from solid sources as well as the Internet about him and then I will introduce my own additional documentation that I believe links Isaac to Abraham.
A. First record of Abraham per FHL book 974.961 V2c "Burlington County Marriages," by H Stanley Craig (1932, rep. 2003), pp. 95, 233, 248: Abraham Winner - Mary Thatcher, 9-13-1769. Variant from FHL film 1320671, it. 5, the book "Historical and Genealogical Miscellany, Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey," by John E. Stillwell (Baltimore, 1970), p. 72, "Register of St. Mary's Church, Burlington, N.J.": "Married - Abraham Winner & Mary Hatcher, both of Burlington County, were lawfully married, Septem'r 3d 1769, at Mountholly." From the Internet it appears St. Mary's was an Episcopal Church. It is probable that this was an intentional marriage outside of Quaker meeting similar to Isaac's.
B. "Revolutionary Census of NJ," by Kenn Stryker-Rodda; List I (1773 & 1774): Abraham Winnor - Northhampton, Burlington Co.
C. Abraham (Winnor and Winner): Northampton, Burlington Co. Various Lists: 1774, 1787.
D. From "Old Inns and Taverns," by Charles Boyer, p. 49: "Another early tavern keeper was Abraham Winner, whose house was located on the north side of Gaskill's Lane, now Woodlane, near the old Quaker Meeting House. On April 22, 1776, he gave a mortgage to Joseph Butterworth on this property,vwhich had probably then been discontinued as a tavern."
E. Rootsweb accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Burlington County NJ - NJGenWeb; Early Tax List - Northampton Township, 1779. Only Winner shown is Abraham Winner (no Isaac or John): 90 acres of land valued at 25, 2 horses, 2 cattle, 1 hog, total whereon to levy 27/5/0, amount of certainty 0.66, tax carried out 1.22. (Note that there is also a Caleb Carr on the same tax list with 250 acres; I believe that the father of Hannah Carr who married John Winner in 1776 was Caleb Carr.)
F. Undocumented from Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: "By Jan 1780 he was purchasing foragemaster."
G. Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: New Jersey Historical Society, "Calendar of New Jersey wills, administrations, etc.," Vol. 5, p. 314: "1780, Oct. 27 - Adm'r - William Cramer, of Little Egg Harbor. Fellowbondsmen - Joseph Biddle, of Springfield, and Abraham Winner, of Northampton; all of Burlington Co. The said William Cramer is appointed Adm'r of the estate of John Little, left unadministered by Sarah Little, during the minority of James, the son of said John Little."
H. Internet Usgenweb by Patricia M. Bergener (fmlyhstry@verizon.net) 1999 accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Early New Jersey Marriages - Extracts": #557; Cornelius McAnley of Springfield in the County of Burlington, and Abraham Winner... [bound to]... William Livingston, Governor... 500 pounds... 1 Feb 1784. ... Contract of Marriage between Cornelius McAnley... and Mary Johnson... [w] Jos: Read.
I. From the Internet: The following list for Winner Surnames in NJ -Colonial Records, CD 136 Dec 94 ver. GRS v 3:03: Abraham Winner, Burlington Co., NJ voters 1787, pg. 80.
J. Online Archive.org "Documents Relating to the Colonial, Revolutionary and Post-Revolutionary History of the State of New Jersey," accessed 21 Nov 2011: "1788, Nov. 15. Borden, Joseph, Jr., of Burlington Co. Int. Adm'r - Robert Dougherty. Fellowbondsman - Abraham Winner; both said Co."
K. FHL book 974.961 R28h "Burlington County, New Jersey, Deed Abstracts - Books A, B and C," by Richard S. Hutchinson: "Book D, p. 1, 4 Mar 1794, concerns Commissioners making a division of "property late of William Smith, deceased ... of the City of Burlington [who] died intestate. The division takes over 33 pages and names several dozen adjoining property owners including "Winner's Ferry, land of Abraham Winner and wife on 28 February 1788."
L. Undocumented from Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: "He died in what is to be believed to be the Alms House in Philidelphia and is buried in the same graveyard as Joseph and Elizabeth Winner."
M. I include the following just so I can refute it. From the Internet accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Gloucester County Historical Society - Oct, 9, 1969 from Ernistene Siegel, 1906 Watrous Ave, Tampa, FL 33606: "...there was an Abraham Winner of Mt. Holly, who was a tavern keeper there before the out break of the Rev War, and who is still there in 1787. This Abraham Winner was a descendant of Capt. James Winner, who was in Colonel McCrea's Regiment in the Revolutionary War. As a note, Captain James Winner was in Col. McCrea's regiment when they returned Levies, Fort Edward July 21, 1780. A return of Levies raised from Saraghtoga Regiment. And Now in actual service at Fort Ann under the command of Capt. Sherman, John McCrea, Colo. August 11th, 1780. No. 3092 Return of Levies from Colonel McCrea's Regiment. Fort Edward July 21 the 1780. " My comments: there is no document saying our Abraham is the son of Capt. Winner. Basic research shows that Col. James McCrea's local militia group was of Albany, New York and did not involve men from so far away as New Jersey since Col. McCrea's battles were in upstate New York. The Levies only mention a Capt. Winner, not James Winner. Albany was the seat of the Dutch Winnes, which is not our group. Changing the subject, the author Ernestine Siegel has published work on her ancestor James Winner who served in the Rev. War as part of the Bucks County Regulators. She has determined that he was a son of the same Isaac Winner Sr. to whom we linked Isaac Winner Jr. James is also father of the Lycoming Co., PA, Winners. Miss Siegel has published a pamphlet and a book on the subject which I am still reviewing. She does name the wife of Isaac Sr. as Rebecca ___.
Now to discuss ties of Abraham and Isaac - I found the following:
A. In the New Jersey State Archives in Supreme Court cases, I found the following which I believe is significant. We have already surmised above that Dover Isaac was almost certainly the son of Isaac Sr. of Middletown, Bucks Co., and that he married in 1776, left there shortly after 1779, and then shows up in 1783 in Dover. All of a sudden for just a very short time an Isaac shows up in Burlington as plaintiff with Abraham in a court case that begins in 1783. There is no Isaac before nor after in the area and the timeframe dovetails right into the sweet spot of 1779 to 1883 when Isaac is between Bucks Co. and Dover Township. The court cases:
-39304: Isaac and Abraham Winner vs. Jacob Shinn 1783-85 held at Burlington, Burlington Co.
-44555: Isaac Winner. Poor copy and I can't read any of the details. It is dated 1783 and is probably the same Isaac as above.
B. This statement is found on the Internet but without any source. We can't use it for documentation, but it is prescient: "Abraham had relatives in Bucks Co. who were Quakers - Isaac Sr and Jacob Winner."
Summary: We know Abraham did not have a son named Isaac at that time and it would be unusual to be partners with a cousin, so a conclusion of a brotherly connection is not out-of line. We could always argue it wasn't Isaac Jr., but Isaac Sr. who disappears from the scene in Bucks Co. in 1781 - but either way it ties Abraham to Isaac Sr.
John WINNER of GREAT EGG HARBOR:
There is much good documentation on this John and not necessary to repeat everything here. He apparently had two marriages.
The first marriage is per "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson: "Winner, John, Northampton, and Hannah Carr, Northampton, 1776 April 1." According to "The Carr Book," by Arthur R. Carr, 1947, Hannah was b. 10 Sep 1759 to Caleb Carr and she died 9 Aug 1778 in Mt. Holly (Northampton) in childbirth when their son Samuel was born 9 Aug 1778. The Carr book says he died three days later. The marriage was apparently out of Quaker meeting because we find in FHL book 974.961 K2m v.1 "Early Church Records of Burlington County, New Jersey," by Charlotte D. Meldrum, a reference to only one Winner in the entire book, which is in the Minutes of Mount Holly Monthly Meeting. "5th da, 4th mo, 1777... Hannah Winner, produced a paper acknowledging trouble of mind, for going out in marriage." We also find Hannah's father Caleb with 250 acres in the same area in which Abraham (but no other Winners) live (per Rootsweb accessed 21 Nov 2011: "Burlington County NJ - NJGenWeb; Early Tax List - Northampton Township, 1779"). The Carr book reports indicates he died 11 Sep 1783 and his buried next to his daughter. In any case this all places John Winner in Northampton just prior to his being in Great Egg Harbor.
John's second marriage is to Millicent Mapes for whom we have on record a will (and codicil) naming her three sons. We also have on record a will for her father Joseph Mapes in which he names his dau. Millicent Winner, his son-in-law John Winner, and his grandson Joseph Winner. Joseph Mapes was prominent in the Quaker community of Great Egg Harbor. John and Millicent has three sons: John, Joseph, and Amos - for whom we have marriage information. FHL film 1425085, it. 6, "Gloucester County, New Jersey, Marriage Records," by H. Stanley Craig, 1930:
-Joseph Winner and Millicent Caveller, 2-2-1803.
-John Winner and Abigail Doughty, 5-9-1812.
-Not reported for Amos. [Per Internet: He married Mary Brackney (from Burlington) September 5, 1805. There are also military records for him which says he was in the War of 1812 and in the War with Algiers in 1815. He was discharged July 10, 1817 with a "surgeons certificate of disability."]
-(As a side note, the same marriage records also has "Samuel Winner and Mary Thorn, 3-30-1813." Could it be John's son Samuel from his marriage to Hannah Carr who did not perhaps die three days after his mother as "The Carr Book" would have us believe?)
We also have a couple more records that place John Winner in Northampton with Abraham:
A. "The Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey," v. 37, p. 75, "New Jersey Rateables 1773-1774, Northampton Twp. of Burlington Co.":
-"John Winner sm"
-"Abraham Winner 315; 6c"
B. "Revolutionary Census of NJ," by Kenn Stryker-Rodda; List I (1773 & 1774):
-Abraham Winnor - Northhampton, Burlington Co.
-John Winnor - - Northhampton, Burlington Co.
Most significantly the following record was found a very specific record that ties Northampton Abraham and Great Egg John. Note that we also gain a name of Mary for Abraham's wife. FHL book 974.961 R28h "Burlington County, New Jersey, Deed Abstracts - Books A, B and C," by Richard S. Hutchinson, p. 41: "Book B, p. 35 - Abraham Winner to John Winner." "28 May 1787 - Abraham Winner … Township of Burlington … New Jersey and Mary his Wife ... [sold to] … John Winner of Great Egg Harbour … Gloucester … Whereas the Said Abraham Winner … [by deed from Joseph Butterworth and Sarah his Wife dated 29 May 1780 and from Samuel Shinn dated 1 February 1776 became seized of two certain parcels of land in the Township of Northampton … (for 260 pounds) … All these his two … Parcels ... of Land …. (adjacent land owners or names - Jacob Hilliard, Edward Hilliard, Edward Andrew, Nathan Gaskill, Cripps Estate) … (3 acres, 2 rods, 23 perches) … The other Piece … [adjacent land owners or names - Side of the Great Road called Gaskill's Lane, Hannah Belcher, Johanna Brow)] … (7 acres, 7 perches). Memorandum - (Before the execution of the above deed, Abraham Winner excepts two Small Pieces, the one sold by him to Abel Harker and the other to Isaiah Bishop Which is Within the above bounds.); (Signed - Abraham Winner, Mary Winner; witnesses - Charles Ellis, Daniel Ellis.)"
Summary: It is apparent that John shows up in the records at Northampton in conjunction with Abraham from 1773/4 to 1778. He then disappears by 1779 from the area because only Abraham shows up as the only Winner in the 1779 tax schedules (this evidently is just before Isaac shows up). We then find our John in Great Harbor per Great Egg Harbor, Gloucester Co., various lists for 1774, 1780, 1781 (Winer), 1782, 1783, 1785 (Winners), 1785, 1786, 1790, 1791, 1792, 1793, 1794, 1795, 1796, 1797, 1802. It appears that he had a short presence in Great Egg Harbor shortly in 1774 and then continuously from 1780 on. The 1787 deed between Abraham and John with their residences certainly confirms a family relationship.
Summary:
The marriages of Abraham in 1769, John in 1776, and Isaac in 1776 would indicate they were of the same generation and probably in that order of age. Interestingly all three appear to have married "out of meeting" from the Quakers. The connections and timelines seem to be more than coincidence. Isaac's apparent connection with Isaac Sr. in Middletown township, Bucks County, PA, would then argue all three must be tied together as probable brothers to most likely Isaac Winner Sr. Of course we cannot rule the taxman may have just called both Isaacs Sr. and Jr. to differentiate them in the locality and one of the other Middletown men could be their father. We see these potential Middletown individuals from tax lists to whom I add my comments:
-Isaac Winner, married, 1754, 1757, 1760 & 1762 listed next to Joseph, 1778 and 1779 as Sr. [By process of elimination, Isaac is the only one seemingly left standing for a potential father.]
-Samuel Winner, single, 1757, 1760 "Sam'l Winner at Joh. Winr.," 1762, 1778 married and next to John, 1779. [Samuel marries too late to be the father of our three Winners. Probably son of John Winner since they both disappear after 1778. A Samuel shows up as a son in John Winner's 1791 will who is probably this Samuel.]
-John Winner, married, 1757, (not listed in 1762), 1778 listed next to Samuel. [This is most likely the John who died and left a will in 1791. (1791, John Winner, Lower Makefield, will, #2356. John Winner of Lower Makefield Twp., Bucks, weaver. January 3, 1791. Proved January 23, 1791. Sons Samuel and John exrs. Ch. Rachel wife of Jacob Watson, Didwell wife of John Smith, Samuel, John, David, Joshua, and David [Moses?] Winner. Gdsns. Levi and John Terry sons of Joshua Terry. Wits: James Moon, Richard Neeld, Peter Vanhorn. Witnesses Amos Gregg and Amos Gregg, Jr.)]
-Joseph Winner, 1760 and 1762 listed next to Isaac. [Could this be Isaac Sr.'s father since he drops out of the record ca. 1762 and is close to him in the tax schedules? We also find the name Joseph used among Abraham's and John's sons.]
-Isaac Jr, married, 1778. [This is our Isaac that goes to Dover, NJ. and who married 1776.]
-James Winner, single, 1778. [Ernestine Siegel identifies James as a son of Isaac Sr.]
So from process of elimination, Isaac Winner Sr. appears to be the probable father. Subject to more research, Joseph Winner could perhaps be Isaac Sr.'s father or perhaps a brother.
There are two other interesting marriages reported in the 1770s for perhaps other close relations or even brothers to Abraham, John, and Isaac that will need closer scrutiny with further research:
A. FHL film 1320671, it. 5, the book "Historical and Genealogical Miscellany, Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey," by John E. Stillwell (Baltimore, 1970), p. 72, "Register of St. Mary's Church, Burlington, N.J.," p. 88: "Married - Sept. 29, 1774, Jacob Winner & Elizabeth Hellings." Note this is the same church in which Abraham was also married in 1769. The book "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, "Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents" adds a residence: "Winner, Jacob, Bucks, PA, and Elizabeth Helling, Bucks, PA, 1774 Sep 29." I have not seen ongoing records thereafter for Jacob in New Jersey, so I suspect he married "out of meeting" and returned to Pennsylvania. We do find a Bucks Co. tax record in 1778, "Lower Makefield, for Jacob Winner, married." There was another Jacob in Southampton Twp., Burks Co. who appears on a 1772 tax list then in probate: "1778, Jacob, weaver, Southhampton, adm., #1563"; couldn't find actual probate, but was administration only. A couple of loose unsubstantiated Worldconnect entries show that Jacob who married Elizabeth Helling was son of a Jacob in Bucks co. - probably should consider the possibility that Southampton Jacob could be father of Lower Makefield Jacob. No other entries in Bucks Co. for a Jacob after 1778. A more likely explanation and one that Ernestine Siegel mentions in her book is that these two Jacobs were in fact the one and the same with Jacob then dying relatively young. His age would be surmised from the earliest entry with him being at least 21.
B. "New Jersey Marriage Records, 1665-1800," by William Nelson, "Marriage Licenses from New Jersey Colonial Documents": "Winner, Amos, and Rebeca Cooper, 1779 May 1." We see the name Amos later used for a son of John Winner of Great Egg Harbor; this would point to perhaps some kinship. I have found no other pre-1800 entries for Amos in either New Jersey or Bucks Co., PA.
I don't pretend yet to have sorted out all the very early pre-1800 Winners in Bucks County, but we should look a little further into the very earliest ones to see if we can someday connect things in the middle to Isaac Sr. These are all the entries I can find so far that are pre-1760. There is probably some relationship but I can't yet tell if they were early brothers or fathers/sons.
A. We know from probate records that the earliest Winner we have knowledge of in Bucks County (and specifically Middletown Twp.) is John Winner, weaver, Middletown, 1748 probate adm., #628 (administration only with no will). He is probably also be the same John who was a witness to a deed in 1731. Some Internet chat reports John's wife was Didwell, but I have not yet searched for substantiation for this. We do see the John who was a weaver (just like 1748 John) and died in Lower Makefield Twp. in 1791 having a daughter who he named Didwell. (See note above.)
B. We know from the following that there was a Jacob Winner that died before 1753, married as a second husband to Sarah ___ (first husband William Hooper. Jacob could very well be a brother to 1748 John.
a "Deeds 1684-1763":
-Joseph Smith of Bristol Twp., 1753, to Mary Martin, widow, property sold in 1743 to William Hooper, who died intestate and sheriff sold land to Mary Martin and Sarah Winner, formerly Sarah Hooper.
-Sarah Winner, widow of Jacob, deed 1753 to Mary Martin.
b. "Will abstracts 1685-1785": 1753, Sarah Winner of Bristol Twp., son Anthony Hooper. Joseph Smith, executor.
C. "Will abstracts 1685-1785": 1754, Mentions land in Newtown on which "Joseph Winner lives after decease of wife." Principal of will, David Lavell, document does not say relationship but doesn't appear related.
As for the other pre-1800 Bucks Co. Winners, I have an abstract of all the entries I have been able to find to date for any researcher that would like to analyze, find patterns, or sort it out.

4. See notes of the earliest "generic" Winner for a transcript of the "The Ancestry & Descendants of James Winner of Sussex Co., N.J. & Lycoming Co., Pa.," first edition; Editor: Ernestine Siegel, 1906 Watrous Avenue, Tampa, Florida, 33606; 1969; revised 1970; privately printed with copy in my possession, Preface, pp. 1-15, and Bibliography. She has collected a tremendous amount of information and identified the early Winners centered around Bucks County in Southeast Pennsylvania near Philadelphia and in the adjoining western counties of New Jersey just across the the state line formed by the Delaware River. She gives some generic information on the antiquity of the Winner name before providing a comprehensive listing of what is known to date on all early Winners in our targeted geographic area. I believe she has probably found all of them; however, the connections between each of them is obscure and subject to speculation. Like myself, she has concluded that there is no connection to the Dutch New York Peter Winne family. Even though there is no proof, she has taken the premise that the family legend of an original Capt. James Winner (of the "Wasp") has merit and that he had at least four sons/branches (John, James, Joseph, and Thomas) and potentially a fifth son/branch (Samuel). From there she develops some of these branches while just placing some "strays" where perhaps they may eventually fit subject to additional research. Some of the Winners are too late to be of interest to us except as perhaps a DNA pathway back when more DNA-tested Winners are available. As for our earliest ancestor, Isaac Winner who married Rebecca, Ms. Siegel cannot identify his precise parents, but she places him as a "stray" on the John Branch with the caveat that he seems associated with the Samuel who may be a separate fifth branch (perhaps as a brother or son?). Even though speculative, she has generally done a better job than anything else in print at providing some potential order to the early Winners. She acknowledges that many vital NJ records were destroyed in the Revolutionary War. She also recommends that: "Straightening out the Winner family tree will be a long tedious job for someone, for only by extensive search of colonial church records in both Pa. and N.J. can the various relationships be settled." Even though the entire transcript should be read for context, I include some specific quotes pertaining to Isaac as follows:
"PART I. The WINNERS of BUCKS CO., PA and NEW JERSEY...
OTHERS WINNERS IN The MIDDLETOWN-MAKEFIELD AREA...
SAMUEL WINNER of MIDDLETOWN - A SEPARATE BRANCH?
The elder Samuel Winner of Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. seems more closely associated in records with the Abraham, Isaac and Jacob branch of the family than with the branch of John of Middletown. Since the Abraham, Isaac, Jacob branch seems to originate in New Jersey, there is a good possibility that Samuel also came from New Jersey to Middletown. In 1775 Samuel, Isaac; and Jacob are listed as non-associators at Middletown. Abraham is known to have remained in New Jersey and served as a soldier there. The younger brother James served as an associator at Middletown, Pa. in 1775. Thus this family was divided in its beliefs concerning service in the Revolutionary War. It is believed that the Quakers Isaac and Jacob had moved from New Jersey to Pa. at the outset of the war, as the Pa. government was more lenient in its attitude toward the sect than was the New Jersey government, and of course, Pa. did not suffer as much destruction during the war as did New Jersey. Isaac and Jacob's marriages are recorded in the New Jersey Archives, and Stryker lists Jacob as a New Jersey Revolutionary soldier, although the Archives cannot furnish a service record for him,
In 1779 Samuel Winner of Middletown is taxed along with Isaac Sr, and Isaac Jr. In 1783 he is taxed there with William Winner, singleman, possibly a son. Both Samuel and William disappear from the tax lists after 1784. In 1781, William Winner had served as a private in Capt. Robert Patterson's Co., 2nd Regt. of Foot, Bucks Co. Militia.
Isaac WINNER of MIDDLETOWN and NEW JERSEY.
In 1775 Isaac Winner was recorded as a non-associator of Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. In 1776 a marriage is recorded in New Jersey on November 9th of Isaac Winner of Bucks Co. to Hannah Searl of Bucks". In 1779 both Isaac Sr. and Isaac Jr. are taxed at Middletown. In 1781, Isaac Winner, weaver, is taxed there and this is the last of the Isaacs on the tax lists..."
[Author continues with a part II, pp. 15-58, which is specifically on her ancestor James Winner (who married Mary Parker and Mary Kester) and his descendants. James was the son of Isaac and Rebecca Winner. This portion of the overall transcript is contained in the notes of James Winner. There are two excerpts, however, that I include as follows in which the author seems to identify (or assume) some relationships with James which if correctly surmised may impact James' father Isaac, who is our earliest documented ancestor, i.e. that Jacob was a brother of James and also that he was cousins or a nephew with the individuals in the John Winner and Joseph Winner branches of the supposed original Capt. James Winner:]
"Coming from a family that was only half Quaker, James Winner in his earlier years had several times found his beliefs running contrary to those of the Quaker church. Consequently, while serving apprenticeship as a teenage boy in Middletown Township, Bucks Co., Pa. in 1775 - learning to become a weaver - James had served a term as soldier in the Bucks County Associators, although his brothers Isaac and Jacob, as Quakers, did not. (James' elder cousin, James, son of John of Lower Makefield, had already moved to Lower Makefield Township with his brother John Jr. and served as an associator there in the same year.) Again, during later years in New Jersey, James Winner married his first wife out of meeting, as well as his second wife. However, he always returned to the church and brought up his children to be Quakers.
"...By legend, at the time [1801] James Winner migrated to Lycoming County, he had only two brothers still living, one in New Jersey, and one in Bucks County. Also by legend, he is said to have named his three sons for his three brothers. His elder brother was Abraham Winner of Mt. Holly, Burlington Co., New Jersey, an innkeeper and a New Jersey Revolutionary Soldier. The second brother Isaac was taxed at Middletown Township, Bucks Co., Pa. as early as 1779, although it is believed he was born in Burlington Co., N.J. The third brother, Jacob Winner, died in Southhampton Township, Bucks Co., Pa. in 1778. (Both Isaac and Jacob were weavers.) Dirck Hogeland signed bond for the estate. The father of James is considered to be Isaac Sr. who was also taxed in Middletown Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. In 1779 but then disappears from the tax lists. The mother of James is said to be Rebecca. His birth record eludes us as it is not known which side of the Delaware River he was born on. (His cousin James mentioned before, died in Warwick Township, Bucks Co, Pa. In 1796.) The marriage records of Isaac Jr. and Jacob Winner are found in the New Jersey Archives.
The Winner family in Lycoming Co., Pa. has always been tied to the Winner family of Philadelphia, which included William Winner, the artist, and Septimus Winner, the composer. After James served his apprenticeship in Middletown Twp., he moved to Bristol Township where his uncle Joseph Winner lived. James was taxed there as a weaver in 1781, probably living in the home of Joseph.
By tradition, this Joseph Winner of Bristol was third generation in America, born 1735 in New Jersey, son of Joseph, grandson of Capt. James. Joseph of Bristol was taylor, and had served in the Indian Wars in the 1750s. While James was in Bristol, one of Joseph's younger sons, Joseph born 1776 was only a small child. This 4th generation Joseph moved to Philadelphia and married Elizabeth Evans. His son Joseph, 5th generation, moved to Lycoming County in the 1840s, but had moved back to Philadelphia by 1850. However, on the 1850 census in Lycoming County is one Seth Winner, age 64 (born 1786) living in Porter Township with his wife Rebecca and son Robert. This family probably belongs to the Philadelphia branch also.
After spending a year at Bristol, James Winner, the weaver, moved to Falls, Pa. and was taxed there in 1782 on two cows and a horse. Previously, in 1779 his uncle James' Estate was taxed at Falls. This elder James Winner served as a soldier in 1745, and again is listed as a soldier at Newton in 1756.
From Falls, James Winner moved across the river to Oxford Furnace in Sussex County and married Widow Mary Collins, probably in 1785. She was born Mary Parker, Jr., daughter of Humphrey Parker, Jr., a Welsh Quaker from Gwynned, Pa., and his wife, Tamar Scott, whom he had married at the First Presbyterian Church in Philadelphia in 1744..."

5. Email received 23 Feb 2015 from (Dr.) Daniel F. Stramara, Jr., Rockhurst University, 1100 Rockhurst Rd., Kansas City, MO 64110, concerning his speculation of a possible son named Septimus as an additional son to Isaac and Rebecca Winner:
"Kerry Petersen,
Thank you for your reply. I will let you know what I track down regarding the 1830 Samuel Winner of Evesham Twp., Burlington Co., NJ and forward you the documentation.
At least I know that I am not descended from the Winner Family of Butler Co., PA. I am almost certain that I am directly related to the Samuel Winner of Evesham, Burlington County, NJ. In 1830 he was age 40-49 (b. bet 1780-90) and he lived next door to Joseph and Abigail (Winner) Venable (see M19 Roll 80 p. 84). I am presuming that Abigail Winner was this Samuel Winner's sister. Samuel Winner married Mary Thorn 30 Mar 1813 Gloucester Co., by Methodist Minister. (His marriage date suggests a birth year before 1793 thus within the above 1830 Census time frame.) Abigail Winner married Joseph Venable 23 Feb 1816 Gloucester Co. by Justice of the Peace.
In 1840 the same Samuel Winner, now age 50-59, lived in Waterford Twp., Gloucester Co., NJ (Roll 252 p. 23). Evesham Twp., Burlington Co and Waterford Twp., Gloucester Co. are adjoining townships and counties. My ancestor Joseph Venable was now also listed in Waterford Twp. in 1840.
Significantly, in 1840 there was also a Samuel Winner living in Slippery Rock, Butler Co., PA age 40-49 (Roll 448 p. 8). This Samuel is the son of Septimus Winner of Donegal Twp., Butler Co., who devised a will 14 April 1841 (proved 14 Aug 1844), accessible at
The 1830 Samuel Winner of Burlington Co., NJ in 1850 is now living in Delaware Twp., Camden County, NJ (Roll M432_445, p 138A). Part of Waterford Twp., Gloucester County became Delaware Twp., Camden County on 28 Feb 1844. In short, this Samuel Winner didn't move; rather, a new county was created and a new township accordingly named. Said Samuel Winner died 20 Dec 1861 in Camden County, NJ, aged 76 thus born 1785 matching the above mentioned time span. Allegedly his death certificate lists a Septimus Winner as his father and a Mary unknown as his mother. I will try to secure a copy of this record when I am in Trenton, NJ.
Because there are in fact two Samuel Winners of different ages (each having children with different names), and each the son of a Septimus Winner (it seems highly unlikely one father named two sons differing by a few years, the same name unless Samuel was the middle name of one of them that then became the given name after the brother left), this suggests to me that there was an even earlier Septimus Winner after whom the Septimus Winner of Butler Co., PA (b. 1766 - d. 1844) and the Septimus Winner of Burlington Co., NJ (living 1795-1829 --?), were named. (For the property holdings of Septimus Winner of Northampton Twp., Burlington Co., NJ see .) Said postulated earlier Septimus Winner generationally would have had to have been the grandfather of Septimus Winner of Burlington Co., NJ and of Septimus Winner of Butler Co., PA.
To further argue for the existence of two contemporary Winner men named Septimus, a review of census records is helpful. A Septimus Winner appears in the 1840 PA Census for Donegal Twp., Butler Co., age 70-80, thus born bet. 1760-70. The same individual appears in the 1830 PA Census for Donegal Twp., Butler Co., age 60-70, thus born bet. 1760-70. This is obviously the Septimus Winner who devised the will in 1841 in Donegal Twp. and who died there in 1844.
However, at the same time that a Septimus Winner is living in Donegal Twp., Butler Co., PA in 1830, it is highly probably that a Septimus Winner is living in Evesham Twp., Burlington Co., NJ. In the 1830 Census, living with Joseph and Abigail (Winner) Venable are an elderly couple: male age 70-80, thus born bet. 1750-60 and a female age 60-70, thus born bet. 1760-70. This elderly couple cannot be Joseph Venable's parents, for his father died in 1799 and his mother on 16 May 1826 (see Henrietta Brady Brown, "Some Venables of England and America" (Cincinnati, OH: Kinderton Press, 1961), 132; information which I have verified via primary documents). Because this elderly couple cannot be Joseph's parents (and no other Joseph Venable is living in Evesham at this time for this age bracket -- my Joseph fitting the male recorded as age 40-50, head of household), it goes to reason that this elderly couple are the parents of Abigail (Winner) Venable. Presuming that she is the sister of the next door neighbor Samuel Winner, whose death certificate lists his parents as Septimus Winner and Mary, I can only conclude that the elderly male living with Joseph and Abigail (Winner) Venable is none other than Septimus Winner, who last appeared by name in Burlington County records in 1829, just one year before the Census. N.B. I have not yet been able personally to secure a copy of Samuel Winner's death certificate so as to verify that it states Septimus Winner was his father, but I have no reason to doubt the e-mail stating such (29 May 2004), sent by his descendant, Mr. Dennis Boyles, who secured a copy. (I also have a copy of the typed letter Mr. Boyles sent to Kim Sechrist on 3 June 2004, stating the same.) In short, in 1830 there is a Septimus Winner living in Donegal Twp., Butler Co., PA born bet. 1760-70 as well as a Septimus Winner living in Evesham Twp., Burlington Co., NJ born bet. 1750-60, each having a son Samuel Winner who also accordingly fall within a ten year birth bracket difference.
Regarding the existence of two contemporary Septimus Winners, the following obtains. It has understandably been conjectured that the Septimus Winner of Northampton Twp., Burlington Co., NJ might be the son of Abraham Winner, the tavern owner of the same county. However, if Septimus were so named due to his being a "seventh child (or son)" of Abraham, this is impossible given that Abraham Winner married Mary Thatcher 3 Sept 1769, whether this be Abraham's first or second marriage, given that I have identified this Septimus Winner as having been born between 1750-60 (and thus able to have been enrolled in the NJ militia in 1793). It seems plausible to me that this Septimus was Abraham's younger brother and hence could have been a seventh child, so named. I am unaware of claims regarding who the father is of the Septimus Winner of Butler Co., PA, born 1766, but perhaps that Septimus is the son of one of the NJ Septimus Winner's older brothers. In short the PA Septimus Winner (b. 1766) could be a nephew of the NJ Septimus Winner (b. 1750-1760), named in his honour.
If the NJ Septimus Winner is Abraham's younger brother, this suggests Septimus is the seventh born child of Isaac of Bucks Co., PA, which is quite plausible. Oddly enough, it is plausible that the Septimus Winner of Butler Co., PA (b. 1766) is the son of Abraham Winner of Burlington Co., NJ. This Septimus Winner most probably is the one who married Mary Gaskill on 24 Mar 1808 in Burlington County, NJ (presumably as his second wife), he being 41 or 42 years old. Nevertheless, perhaps the elder Septimus married Mary Gaskill as a second (or even third) wife.
To summarize, at present I see two possibilities: 1) A hitherto unknown Septimus Winner who is grandfather to the NJ and PA Septimus Winners; and 2) the NJ Septimus Winner being uncle to the PA Septimus Winner. No matter what the case, there must have been some significant "elder" Septimus Winner, because the name keeps reappearing in subsequent generations, e.g. the famous composer (1827-1902, though he himself was the 7th born child, but still this might be an acknowledgement of an earlier Winner naming tradition).
Thanks for any feedback and further information. It really is quite a puzzle." 
Winner, Isaac (I1942)
 
4841 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Issue No. 9, "Mangum Family Bulletin," March 1971, "Family of Nicholas Mangum," by James L. Parham:
Foreword. This is the third in a series of articles on the Mangum family. The other two concerned John Mangum and Henry Mangum, both of early Virginia. These articles should be used with extreme care since some of this material is simply personal views of the author. However, these articles can be of great help when used as a basis for further study. If you find any error of fact or interpretation, please call my attention to it immediately.
Introduction. In 1844, Micajah Mangum(32), writing from Goochland County, Virginia sent a letter to Willie Person Mangum, Senator from North Carolina. The letter contained a great deal of genealogical information and allows us to make a number of lineage connections not otherwise possible. We will deviate from the custom of past articles in that we will follow the lineage backward rather than forward. Here, it would be a good idea to read the letter by Micajah Mangum which is reprinted in this issue of the bulletin on page 14.
Micajah Mangum II. At the time of the letter(1844), Micajah had been married 13 years and childless. He was probably born before 1810 as he was an apprentice at coach making by 1817. We have only two public records of Micajah. One is a 1835 deed(31) in Goochland County. The other is a 1840 census report from Henrico county(includes the city of Richmond).(34) It is unknown who all the people were that were with him in the census. One is likely his wife, but he had no children. They may have been help for coach making. It is not known when Micajah left Goochland County for Henrico, but none of the Goochland census reports list a Micajah. According to Micajah, his father was Joseph Mangum.
Joseph Mangum.
According to Micajah, his father Joseph left Isle of Wight County, VA and traveled to Goochland County where he met and married Elizabeth Humber in 1796. Elizabeth died in 1807 leaving 3 girls and 2 boys including Micajah. The tax records of isle of Wight(16) show that Joseph was listed in 1788 but was not listed in 1789. He must have gone to Goochland County between 1788 and 1789. In 1817, Joseph left for Alabama, carrying one boy and leaving Micajah as an apprentice at coach making. What happened to the 3 girls is not stated. Possibly, they had already married. We have found no record of Joseph in Alabama. However, there were Mangums in Alabama as early as 1820 and probably earlier.(35)
The public records show that Joseph Mangum married Elizabeth Humber in 1795.(28) She was the daughter of John Humber Sr. The only other record of Joseph in Goochland County, a 1792 marriage in which he was security, is listed in ref. 27. The Isle of Wight tax lists also establishes a fairly definite birthdate for Joseph. In 1786 he was listed as being 16 to 21 years old and in 1787 he was listed as being over 21. He probably was born in 1765 or 1766.
Micajah Mangum
Joseph's father was named Micajah, grandfather of the Micajah who wrote the 1844 letter to the N. C. Senator. The 1786 Isle of Wight County tax list has a Micajah and Joseph Mangum together, one under 21 years old and one over 21.(16) This Micajah, according to his grandson came to this country before the Revolutionary War, was wounded at Yorktown and died in Isle of Wight, leaving 3 daughters and one son, Joseph. The three daughters were Peggy who married Daniel Boyce(19), Lucy who married Lewis Chapman(23), and Mary who married Samuel Gray.(24)
Micajah left records as early as 1760 in Isle of Wight.(6) He was married to Elizabeth, last name unknown. In 1782 he had 8 white persons in his household(17). The tax records of Isle of Wight name Micajah between 1782 and 1794.(16) This Micajah was a son of Joseph Mangum who made his will in 1762 in Isle of Wight.(9) See ref. 10 & 20 for additional records.
Joseph and Josiah Mangum
In 1762(9), Joseph Mangum made his will in Isle of Wight Co., VA. He named his wife Lucy and sons Micajah (eldest, above), Elisha and Josiah. The first record we have of Joseph is a 1737(1) deed in Isle of Wight. This indicates that he was of age in 1737 and born probably before 1716.
Joseph knew and probably was kin to the family of Henry Mangum Sr. Both were associated with the Person family(see article on Henry Mangum, MFB Vol. 2, No. 3[Issue 7], page 32). Henry Mangum Sr. appears to be the same generation as Joseph Mangum and both may have descended from John & Frances Mangum of Isle of Wight.(2,7)
The inventory of the estate of Joseph Mangum was ordered in Aug. 1762 and returned to Court in 1777.(11) For additional records see ref. 3 & 5.
No additional records of Elisha Mangum have been found. However, several records have been found of Josiah. He married Sylvia Carrell in Surry County in 1778(15). He is also mentioned in the Isle of Wight tax lists between 1782 and 1792(16). In 1782 he had 5 white and 1 black persons living in his household(17). Apparently, Josiah's wife Sylvia died between 1789 and 1791. On this first date Josiah and wife Sylvia deed 100 acres of land in Isle of Wight.(22). On the latter date Josiah married Elizabeth Abbitt in Isle of Wight.(25) Both Josiahs were apparently the same since the Isle of Wight tax lists name only one Josiah(16). In 1792 Josiah and Elizabeth sell land in Isle of Wight(26). The relationship, if any, between this Josiah and the one in Surry County in 1824 is unknown(29). If these are the same person, then Josiah married a third time to Frances White(29). This Surry Josiah, in any case, died in 1832(30).
The Public Service Claims for Josiah Mangum in Isle of Wight are probably related to his military service although no record has been found concerning such.(33) There are several additional records concerning Josiah in Isle of Wight.(12,13,14,19,21).
Nicholas and Martha Mangum
The first and only record we have found of Nicholas Mangum is the Inventory of his estate in 1757(40). His inventory is signed by Joseph Mangum who is apparently his son. The one and only record we have of Martha Mangum is her will made in 1761(8). In her will she mentions her son Joseph Mangum.
Connections here are somewhat indirect but fairly clear. Both Nicholas and Martha lived in Surry Co., Va., both died about the same time and both have connections to Joseph Mangum. Also, both Wm. Cocks and John Little helped inventory the estate of Nicholas and both witnessed the will of Martha. One disconcerting note is that the mark made by Joseph for his signature on the estate inventory of Nicholas is different from his mark on his will. However, this may or may not be significant. There could be several explanations. In any case, it is assumed that Martha and Nicholas were married and Joseph was their son. It is obvious, however, that this was not the only marriage of Martha since she had a son named John Brown. Possibly, it was a second marriage for both. Note that Martha heavily favored her son John and daughter Elizabeth Wall over her son Joseph in her will. Joseph may have been a step-son.
Both Nicholas and Martha were probably up in years when they died. More than likely, Nicholas was born shortly before 1700, and was possibly an immigrant. If the Micajah of the 1844 letter was correct, then his grandfather, also named Micajah, came to this country sometime before the revolution. It follows, therefore, that Nicholas, son Joseph, and probably wife Martha also migrated to this country with Micajah. Indirect support for this theory is the absence of records of this family before 1737 in Virginia.
Nevertheless, additional records may prove this theory erroneous, however plausible it now appears. If additional records do show that this family was in VA much earlier, than a close look should be taken at John and Frances Mangum. Nicholas was near the ages of the other possible children of John and Frances. Obviously, a great deal of research is needed here.
Summary
The origin of the family of Nicholas Mangum of Surry Co., VA is not clear. Indications are that he, along with children and grandchildren, was an immigrant. He was married to Martha Mangum and this was a second marriage for her and possibly a second one for him. He was born before 1700 and died in 1757. Martha died in 1761.
Nicholas had at least one son, Joseph Mangum and Martha had at least two others, John Brown and Elizabeth Wall. Joseph, who lived in Isle of Wight, died in 1762 leaving wife Lucy and sons Micajah, Elisha and Josiah.
No additional records concerning Elisha have been found. Josiah married Sylvia Carrell in 1778. She died between 1789 and 1791 and Josiah then married Elizabeth Abbett. Josiah possibly married a third time in 1824 to Frances White in Surry. This last Josiah died in 1832.
According to his grandson, Micajah came to this country before the Revolutionary War and was wounded at Yorktown. He died sometime later in Isle of Wight. However, no supporting evidence has been found. He married Elizabeth, maiden name unknown. He had four children, Peggy, Lucy, Mary and Joseph.
Joseph left Isle of Wight about 1788 at age 22, traveled north to Goochland County and married Elizabeth Humber in 1795. They had 3 girls and 2 boys before she died in 1807. In 1817 Joseph took one son with him to Alabama and left the other son Micajah in Virginia as a coach apprentice. Micajah was still in VA in 1844, married but with no children. The fate of Joseph to Alabama is unknown, but Mangums were in Alabama as early as 1820.
References. The following references were obtained from several sources. Many were obtained from the Virginia State Library through Mr. Joseph F. Inman, Genealogist, 910 Pine Ridge Road, Richmond, VA 23226.
(1) 26 March 1737 Joseph Mangum bought 350 acres of land in Isle of Wight for 12 lbs. VA money from Alexander Carter of N. C. Deed refers to gum tree on John Mangum's line. Joseph of Lower Parish, Isle of Wight. D.B. 5, page 88.
(2) 17 Feb. 1753 Joseph Mangum witnessed will of Sam Person. Rec. 3 oct. 1754. Other witnesses were Henry Mangum, Constance Mangum and Samuel Person. Isle of Wight Co., VA Bk 11, page 172.
(3) 4 Sept 1755 Joseph Mangum and others appraised estate of Samuel Person. Isle of Wight Co., VA Bk 11, page 176.
(4) 17 May 1757 Inventory of estate of Nicholas Mangum. Excepted Joseph-+-Mangum. Inventoried by Robt Hart, William Cocks, John-x-Little. Teste Wm. Nelson. Surry co., VA Bk. 10, p.115.
(5) 5 April 1759 Joseph Mangum and others appraised estate of Brittain Jones. Isle of Wight Co. VA Will Bk 11, p. 193.
(6) 6 Dec. 1760 Micajah Mangum of Surry Co., and Elizabeth his wife deed 120 acres in Isle of Wight to Henry Mangum in Isle of Wight. Signed Micajah Manggum and Elizabeth-x-Manggum. Wit. Charles Goodrich, John Grey, Jacob Person and Henry Mangum Jr. Recorded 6 Dec. 1770. Isle of Wight D.B. 12, p. 377.
(7) 10 Oct. 1761 Joseph Mangum and Henry Mangum witnessed the will of Samuel Person. Isle of Wight Will Bk. 111?, p. 12.
(8) 6 Dec. 1761 Will of Martha Mangum. She names dau. Elizabeth Wall and sons John Brown and Joseph Mangum. Witnessed Wm Cocks and John-x-Little. Surry Co., VA Will Bk. 10, p. 274.(See MFB, Vol 1, No. 3, p. 34) [Issue 3].
(9) 27 Feb. 1762 Will of Joseph Mangum. See MFB Vol. 2, No. 2.(Issue 6), page 27. Isle of Wight Will Bk. 7, p. 157.
(10) 18 May 1762 Court Proceedings, Micajah Mangum recovered vs George Glover. Surry Order Bk. 1757-63, p. 34.
(11) Aug. 1762 Inventory of Estate of Joseph Mangum. Ret. to Court 3 July 1777. Appraised by James-x-Pitman and Thomas-x-Cofer. Isle of Wight Wills, Bk 8, p 470.
(12) 4 Feb. 1778 Micajah and Elizabeth Mangum of Isle of Wight sold 29 acres to Josiah Mangum of Isle of Wight. Signed Micajah Mangum and Elizabeth-x-Mangum. Wit. William Gray, Armisted Villian and William Baldwin. Isle of Wight, D.B. 13, page 509.
(13) 4 Feb. 1778 Josiah Mangum (no wife mentioned) sold to Micajah Mangum 60 acres of land in Isle of Wight that Josiah purchased of John Thomas. Isle of Wight D.B. 13, page 511.
(14) 4 Feb. 1778 John Thomas and Martha his wife of Surry Co., to Josiah Mangum of Isle of Wight, 160 acres. Wit. Wm Baldwin, Wm. Gray, Armstead Villines. Isle of Wight D. B. 13, page 507.
(15) 5 June 1778 Josiah Mangum married Sylvia Carrell. Surry Co., VA. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1, p. 6 (Issue 1).
(16) Tax lists, Isle of Wight Co., VA. (Some are missing, Land and Personal property lists combined.)
1782-Josiah Mangum 200 acres, 1 male poll over 21, 3 negroes, Bob, Phillis and Daphney.
Micajah Mangum-130 acres
1783-Josiah Mangum, 1 male poll over 21, l negro Bob.
Micajah Mangum-1 male over 21
1784-Josiah Mangum-1 male poll over 21, 1 negro over 16(Bob)
1785-Josiah Mangam-1 male poll over 21, 1 black over 16, 1 black under 16 (Bob and Zeneth)
Micajah Mangum-land changed in Isle of Wight since 1784 return-Micajah Mangum to Sam Gray.
1786-Josiah Mangam-1 male poll over 21, 1 black over 16, (Negroes Bob, Dinah, Jack).
Micajah Mangum and Joseph Mangam-1 male poll over 21, 1 male poll 16 to 21.
1787-Josiah Mangum-200 acres, 1 free male poll over 21, 2 blacks over 16
Micajah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
Joseph Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1788-Josiah Mangum-200 acres, 1 male poll over 21, 1 black
over 16, 1 black 12 to 16
Micajah Mangum-Chargable Richard Mangum
Joseph Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1789-Micajah Mangum-Chargable Josiah Mangum
Josiah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1790-Josiah Mangum-200 acres, conveyed to John Wills 100 acres leaves a balance of 100 acres. 1 male poll over 21.
Micajah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1791-Micajah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
Josiah Mangum-100 acres
1792-Josiah Mangum-Conveyed to Benjamin Jones 100 acres.
Micajah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1793-Micajah Mangum-1 male poll over 21
1794-Micajah Mangum-Chargable Charlotte Marshall.
(17) 1782 Census Report "1790" Isle of Wight Co., VA
Micajah Mangum-8 white
Josiah Mangum-5 white, 1 black
(19) 1783 Peggy Mangum, dau. of Micajah married Daniel Boyce in Isle of Wight. Wit. Josiah Mangum. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1, page 8.(Issue 1)
(20) 1784-Micajah Mangum sold land to Samuel Grey. Isle of Wight D.B. 15, page 502(or 562).
(21) 1787 Election Poll, lists Richard Mangam and Josiah Mangam, Isle of Wight.
(22) 18 July 1789 Josiah Mangam and Sylvia his wife to James Wills,100 acres. Wit. Frances Young, Thomas McWilliams and Josiah Davis. Signed Josiah-x-Mangam. D.B. 16, page 215.
(23) 1790 Lucy Mangum, dau. of Micajah Mangum married Lewis Chapman. Wit. Samuel Mangam. Isle of Wight. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1, page 8 (Issue 1).
(24) 1790 Mary Mangam, dau. of Micajah Mangum married Samuel Gray. Sur. Richard Mangam. See MFB Vol. 1, No. 1, page 8 (Issue 1)
(25) 24 Sept. 1791 Josiah Mangum married Elizabeth Abbitt in Isle of Wight. Sur. Dolphin Davis. Bond 10 Sept. 1791.
(26) 6 Feb. 1792 Josiah Mangum and Elizabeth his wife and James Wills and Charey his wife of Newport Parish to Benjamin Jones-200 acres. Wit. Thomas Wrenn, John Armstrong, B. Goodrich, Michail-x- Edwards. Signed Josiah-x-Mangum, Elizabeth Mangum and James Wills. Isle of Wight D. B. 17, p. 46.
(27) 28 Dec. 1792 Marriage of Thomas Barnard to Mary Hicks, Dau. of Meshack Hicks. Sur. Joseph Mangam. Goochland Co.
(28) 29 Nov. 1795 Joseph Mangum married Elizabeth Humber, dau. of John Humber Sr. Sur. Edward Cox Jr. Bond 28 Nov. Married by Charles Hopkins.
(29) 1 Jan. 1824 Josiah Mangum married Frances White, dau. of James White Dec'd. Sur. Wm. Belk. Surry Co., VA.
(30) 24 Dec. 1832 James White, Adm. of estate of Josiah Mangum, Dec'd Adm. Bond Surry Co., 1826-1836.
(31) 16 Feb. 1835 Micajah Mangum obtains land from Wm. Cloak. Goochland Co., D. B. 30, page 333.
(32) 29 April 1844 Letter by Micajah Mangum to Senator Willie P. Mangum of North Carolina. See this issue of the Bulletin, page 14.
(33) Public Service Claim, Isle of Wight Co., Josiah Mangum. Court Booklet page 12, certificate 1, lists page 4, Commissioners Book 11, page 324.
(34) Census Report, 1840, Henrico Co., VA
Micajah Mangum-3 males 10 to 15, 2 females 30-40, 2 males 15 to 20, 1 free colored, 5 males 20-30, 7 slaves, 1 male 40-50
(35) 1820 census of Alabama, Franklin County Robert Mangum

2. Issue Number 3 Mangum Family Bulletin September 1969
Will of Martha Mangum, Surry County, Virginia (Wills, Etc. 10, page 264):
"In the name of God amen. I Martha Mangum of the Parish of Southwark & County of Surry being in Perfect Sence thanks to almighty God but knowing how many ways the Life of man may be abridged, have thought fit to make, Constitute and Ordain this to be my last Will & testament absolutely Revoaking all other Wills heretofore made by me and for what Temporal Estate it hath Pleased God to bestow on me I Dispose of in form & Manner following Vizt - -
Item I give to my Daughter Elizabeth Wall three Heifers one with Calf. I give to my Daughter Elizabeth & son John the Brandy to be equally Divided. I give her One Small Iron Pott. I give her one Dish & One Bason. I give her one Third of the Hoggs. I give her three Geese. I give to my Daughter Elizabeth and Son John the Lumber to be Equally divided. I give her Three Sheep. I give her my Cloathes & Cloath.
Item I give to my Son John Brown all the other part of my Estate.
Item I give to Sarah Fitchit Forty Shillings to be made out of what I give to My Son John Browne.
Item I give to my Son Joseph Mangum fifteen Shillings to be made up by Elizabeth Wall & John Browne. My Will & Desire is that my Estate may not be Appraised and I do Nominate & Apoint my Son John Brown & Aaron Wall to be my hole & Sole Exor of this my last Will & Testament In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand this Sixth Day of December 1761.
Signed, Sealed & Published. [Her mark] Martha Mangum
In Presence of us.
Wm Cocks his mark
John Little
Va Court held for Surry County the 15 Day of Dec. 1761 - The last Will & Testament of Martha Mangum Dec'd was presented in Court by John Browne & Aaron Wall the Exors therein Named who made Oath thereto and being Proved by the Oaths of the Witnesses thereto is Ordered to be Recorded and on the Motion of the said Exors Certificate is granted them for Obtaining a Probate thereof in Due form. Test Wm Nelson ?? ??"

3. FHL Film 1697868 and book "The Mangums of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas, Utah, and Adjoining States," by John T. Palmer, Ph.D. Santa Rosa, CA 95409, 1993, 3rd ed., p. 87: "Nicolas Mangum, b. 1700/12 Isle of Wight Co., VA, d. ca 20 Dec 1757, Surry Co., VA, m. Martha ___ d. 1761, Surry Co. Issue:
A. Elizabeth Mangum m. Aaron Wall d. aft 1761.
B. John Brown probable son from previous marriage, d. aft 1761.
C. Joseph Mangum, d. aft 1761."
Footnote: "The absence of any records for the family of Nicolas Mangum and his family prior to 1737 in Virginia suggest the possibility that Nicolas Mangum and his children were possibly an immigrant. This was a second marriage for his wife Martha Mangum and possibly a second one for him. Obviously much research needs to be done on this family."

BIRTH:
1. Guess only.

MARRIAGE:
1. Guess only. As for location, Joseph was born in Isle of Wight Co. and died in Surry Co. Joseph and Lucy's son, Micajah, has records beginning in 1760 which would make him born by about 1739 and earlier. Marriage date would have had to been before 1739.

DEATH:
1. "The Mangum-Mangham-Mangrum Journal," Issue No. 55, January 2005 [Formerly "Mangum Family Bulletin"], James L. Parham, pp. 39-46, from which I make edited selections as follows (see journal for lengthier discussion):
"[From] miscellaneous letters from a series sent to the editor by Thomas Mangum Powell in the 1960's and 1970's.
"...the relationship between Nicholas Mangum, Martha Mangum, and the Joseph Mangum…:
...Joseph Mangum made and signed inventory of deceased Nicholas Mangum's estate in Surry County, Virginia; Dec. 20, 1757. Witnesses were: William Cocks; John Little; and Rob't. Hart.
...Joseph Mangum is mentioned as son, and willed fifteen shillings in will signed by Martha Mangum in Surry County, Virginia; Dec. 6, 1761. Witnesses were: William Cocks and John Little.
...From the above, it appears obvious that Martha and Nicholas were man and wife ... and that their son was indeed named Joseph Mangum. Yet, we have Martha making her daughter Elizabeth Wall and her son John Browne, her principal heirs. Also she leaves a Sarah Fitchit the sum of 40 shillings, almost three times what she left to Joseph. And we have John Browne and Aaron Wall named as Executors of will... Conclusions, subject to change if conditions warrant:
1. Nicholas died intestate and his son inherited the entire estate under old English Law that eldest son inherits unless otherwise specified. Joseph must have been only son of the union.
2. Therefore, Elizabeth Wall and John Browne were Martha's children by a marriage prior to her marriage to Nicholas. It might even prove to be that Nicholas was a widower and that Joseph was a son by his previous marriage ... I think this not true, and anyway, it would not make a great deal of difference. Obviously, Martha with her very few worldly goods saw fit to favor John & Elizabeth. Maybe Joseph had plenty and she felt he needed less.
3. [Author includes an inventory of Nicholas' possessions.]
4. Sarah Fitchit was probably the house companion of Martha, maybe a paid servant or housekeeper. If she were kin, I feel that Martha would have said so.
5. Aaron Wall appointed as co-executor was most likely the husband of Martha's daughter Elizabeth. If we had a record of Aaron's wedding we should have Martha's first husband's name. (Surname)
6. Apparently, Martha wasn't too happy about "appraisements" as she prohibited her estate being appraised. Was this because she wasn't over-joked with the results of the appraisal of Nicholas's and she made a will although she had very, very little to leave... was this because she had suffered a so-called injustice through Nicholas not having left a will?" 
Martha (I259)
 
4842 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It appears from the LDS IGI extraction program that after William and Jane had their son Isaac, chr. 22 Feb 1769 in Whitley by Hexham, they must have moved to neighboring Allendale parish where they also had the following three children: Thomas chr. 14 Feb 1771 and twins Isabella and Mary chr. 4 Feb 1773. From the same IGI, we can determine that Isaac married Mary Milburn 23 Aug 1790 in Allendale, Northumberland. Again using the same IGI extracted record entries, Isaac and Mary in turn had the following children: Jane chr. 11 Sep 1790; Eliz., Mary, and Sarah all chr. 15 Apr 1798 (probable delayed christenings from earlier births); Isabella b. 5 Sep 1803, chr. 9 Dec 1804; Hannah b. 24 Nov 1804, chr. 9 Dec 1804; William chr. 1 Jul 1808; Ann chr. 26 Nov 1809; and Leah chr. 8 Mar 1812. (With the exception of Jane whose parents are simply Isaac and Mary Burnhope, all of the following entries identify the mother as Mary with various spellings of Milburn.)

CHRISTENING:
1. Note that Isaac lived in the Newbiggin/Riddlehamhope area which was centered near Shotley, Hunstantworth, and Hexham parishes all of which he had children christened. From the book of indexed baptisms (1675-1786) transcripts in the Shotley parish church from my 23 Jun 2009 visit to the Society of Genealogists in London, England:
21 Jul 1745, William Burnhope, son of Isaac of Newggin[sic] hope.

2. LDS IGI has a related extracted record for William Burnhope, chr. 21 Jul 1745 at Shotley, Northumberland, England with a mother shown as Jane Burnhope. No father is shown. No other Burnhopes (or other name variations) occur in the fully extracted christening record of 1675-1861.

3. By following the various christening records of his children, we can ascertain Isaac's residence and and the name of his wife Jane. Isaac lived in the Newbiggin/Riddlehamhope area which was centered near Shotley, Hunstantworth, and Hexham parishes all of which he had children christened. Newbiggin/Riddlehamhope do not show on most maps since they are not villages as much as a just a location. Using older maps, I was able to locate them. On modern maps such as Google, locate Hunstanworth in County Durham. Just slightly above Hunstanworth across the field is the River Derwent going from west to east. Slightly to the west of Hunstanworth, the river turns upward northwesterly while a serpentine forested hill turns southwesterly. At this first bow on the north side is Newbiggin Fell. Continue to follow the river as it then immediately turns back west and then you are at Riddlehamhope on the north side of the river. Slightly to the west of that is Riddlehamhope Fell. Note that this river is the boundary between counties Durham on the south and Northumberland on the north thereby making the Burnhopes residents of Northumberland. The meaning of the old English word Fell is from the Old Norse meaning an upland stretch of open country; a moor; or a barren or stony hill. We know that Isaac was a miller because he eventually ends up at Woodhall Mill very near Haydon's Bridge where he dies in 1781. The location of Newbiggin/Riddlehamhope on a river may have been due to work as a miller even though his early profession is not given in the christening records.
The record of his child William must appear in two separate registers (a local and bishop's transcript?) because my transcription shows the entry below whereas the LDS IGI shows the same entry without the father but with a mother Jane Burnhope listed. This establishes Jane as the wife of Isaac.
Note that in a separate transcription book for Hexham baptisms (1752-1851) which I reviewed at the Northumberland Records Office at Woodhorn Jun 2009, there were some minor differences as noted above in [brackets].
The various parish records showing the christening of Isaac's children in chronological order show:
Shotley, Northumberland:
William Burnhope, son of Isaac of Newggin(sic) hope chr. 21 Jul 1745.
Hunstanworth, Durham:
Kath. Burnhope, d. of Isaac, chr. 27 Jul 1747.
Isaac Burnhope, s. of Isaac of Ridlehope [sic], chr. 2 Mar 1748/1749 (bur in 1762 in Hexham).
John Burnhope, s. of Isaac of Newbigginhope, chr. 10 Mar 1750/1751
Hexham, Northumberland:
Mary Burnep, dau. of Isaac Burnep chr. 14 Oct 1753. [Mary Burnip, d. of Isaac of Leafield House. I have tried to find a Leafield House using Google and what I can find thus far is in Birtley, a suburb in County Durham of Newcastle-Upon-Tyne just north of Chester-le-Street. This is off the path considering Newbiggin and Whitley Mill are in close proximity to each other south of Hexham and makes one wonder if there is a closer Leafield House.]
Joseph Burnip, son of Isaac Burnip chr. 7 Mar 1756. [Isaac of Whitley Mill.]
Ann Burnip, dau. of Isaac Burnip chr. 9 Apr 1758. [Isaac of Whitley Mill.]
Hannah Burnip, dau. of Isaac Burnip chr. 23 Mar 1760. [Mary Burnip, d. of Isaac - not sure why one transcription would say Hannah and the other Mary.]

MARRIAGE:
1. The following entries are from a transcription book of the church records for Whitley Chapel, which is part of the Hexham Parish, which I copied at the Society of Genealogists during my visit of Jun 2009. I also saw a similar transcription book at Northumberland Records Office at Woodhorn which had an additional entry below which I note with an (*). The records begin in 1764 and the following transcription is for all Burnhopes for bapt., mar., and burials until 1851. Note that with Whitley only being a subservient chapel, as was the new law at about that time, the marriages ceased from Jul 1781 until Nov 1844 at which time they were in Hexham. Note that there were no Burnhopes in the burial registers for this time period. Whitley is halfway from Newbiggin where the Isaac Burnhope lived to Hexham where some of Isaac's children were christened. "The Newcastle Diocesan Gazetteer, A Guide to the Anglican Churches in Newcastle Upon Tyne and Northumberland" states: "St. Helen's Church, Whitley Chapel, Consecrated in 1764. The church building is of uncertain date. Prior to 1764, it was a Chapel of ease served by Hexham Abbey, but in that year it became a Parish Church of the district known as Hexhamshire, lying between Hexham and Blanchland. It is thought to have been consecrated in 1764 by the Archbishop of York. The church is a simple building of stone, without aisles, with a a later vestry built on to the west end..."
We can be reasonably certain that these entries deal with the children of Isaac even though it is not specifically proven except by circumstantial evidence such as the marriable ages of Isaac's children, the consistent spelling of Burnhope rather than Burnop/Burnip, the fact that William and John follow the Burnhope family trade of millers and that they are at Whitley Mill where we can place their father Isaac in the Hexham confirmation records for Isaac's children Joseph and Ann, the proximity of the location of Whitley Chapel to Newbiggin, and that the surrounding churches do not have probable entries which I determined from my "encircling" research. The following are the entries and my comments are in [brackets]:
*Bapt. 22 Jan 1769, Isaac Burnhope, son of William, Whitley Mill. [Same mill as where Isaac was in 1756 and 1758.]
Bapt. 21 Oct 1773, George Burnhope, son of John, Ordley. [The John in this entry, and the next two for Isaac and Elizabeth, is most likely the son of Isaac who apparently married before 1773 probably in different church - the church of his bride.]
Bapt. 14 Aug 1774, Isaac Burnhope, son of John, Mollerstead. [Moller is a term for mill. In the (*) transcription, it says 7Aug 1774 and Mollestead. Note that LDS IGI extracted records show this individual as John and it shows as well the other three baptisms noted herein including Isaac in 1769.]
Bapt. 1 Apr 1781, Elizabeth, d. of John, Whitley Mill. [Same mill as where Isaac was in 1756 and 1758.]
Marr. 7 Jul 1765, Chris Winter, batchelor, and Cath Burnhope, both of the church. Wit: Ralph Dixon and William Burnhope. [Cath is most likely Kathrine, d. of Isaac, and William is her older brother.]
Marr. 22 May 1768, William Burnhope and Jane Jameson, both of the church. Wit: John Burnhope and Chris Winter. [Chris Winter is most likely the husband to Kathrine Burnhope per the entry above and the brother-in-law to this William. John is most likely the younger brother to William, but he would only be 17 at the time. Isaac, the next brother under William was deceased in 1762 leaving John as the next brother in line.]
Marr. 17 May 1778, Thomas Surtees, batchelor, and Ann Burnhope, both of the church. Wit: John Surtees and Christ. Winters. [Chris Winters is most likely the brother-in-law to Ann who married her sister Kathrine per the entry above in 1765.]
It should also be noted that the nearby Slaley Church directly to the east, whose baptism records began 1703 (1722 for marriages and 1720 for burials), has no entries whatsoever for any Burnhopes until 1851 when I quit checking. The next parish to the west, Allendale does have several Burnhopes. 
Burnhope, William (I42)
 
4843 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It appears that Stephen Remington, who married Amy Gillett, and Sibyl Remington, who married Frederick Gillett, are brother and sister. Amy and Frederick are also sister and brother. Remington parents are Stephen Remington and Chloe King. There are about 9 children in the Remington family all born in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut. Stephen Remington, who married Chloe King, is Stephen Remington, b. 3 Jan 1711/12 in Suffield and d. 1792 in Suffield, who married Sarah Barlow, who is Amy and Frederick's great aunt, all of which is included in this database. Parents of the eldest Stephen Remington are John Remington and Hannah Hale. Source: 20 May 2007 Worldconnect database "michelotti" of Dave Utzinger at utz@aol.com. 
Remington, Stephen (I2449)
 
4844 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It appears that Stephen Remington, who married Amy Gillett, and Sibyl Remington, who married Frederick Gillett, are brother and sister. Amy and Frederick are also sister and brother. Remington parents are Stephen Remington and Chloe King. There are about 9 children in the Remington family all born in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut. Stephen Remington, who married Chloe King, is Stephen Remington, b. 3 Jan 1711/12 in Suffield and d. 1792 in Suffield, who married Sarah Barlow, who is Amy and Frederick's great aunt, all of which is included in this database. Parents of the eldest Stephen Remington are John Remington and Hannah Hale. Source: 20 May 2007 Worldconnect database "michelotti" of Dave Utzinger at utz@aol.com.

MARRIAGE:
1. Date reported is actually date of declared intentions. 
Barlow, Sarah (I2438)
 
4845 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It appears that Stephen Remington, who married Amy Gillett, and Sibyl Remington, who married Frederick Gillett, are brother and sister. Amy and Frederick are also sister and brother. Remington parents are Stephen Remington and Chloe King. There are about 9 children in the Remington family all born in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut. Stephen Remington, who married Chloe King, is Stephen Remington, b. 3 Jan 1711/12 in Suffield and d. 1792 in Suffield, who married Sarah Barlow, who is Amy and Frederick's great aunt, all of which is included in this database. Parents of the eldest Stephen Remington are John Remington and Hannah Hale. Stephen and Amy have 12 children all born in Suffield from 1801 to 1829. Source: 20 May 2007 Worldconnect database "michelotti" of Dave Utzinger at utz@aol.com.

MARRIAGE:
1. Ancestry.com's "Massachusetts Town Marriage Records": Stephen Remington and Ama Gillett, 3 Nov 1799, Granville. Full text: Stephen of Suffield and Ama Gillett, int. Nov. 3, 1799. [Amy Gillet, m. Nov. 27, P.R.6.] 
Remington, Stephen (I1365)
 
4846 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It appears that Stephen Remington, who married Amy Gillett, and Sibyl Remington, who married Frederick Gillett, are brother and sister. Amy and Frederick are also sister and brother. Remington parents are Stephen Remington and Chloe King. There are about 9 children in the Remington family all born in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut. Stephen Remington, who married Chloe King, is Stephen Remington, b. 3 Jan 1711/12 in Suffield and d. 1792 in Suffield, who married Sarah Barlow, who is Amy and Frederick's great aunt, all of which is included in this database. Parents of the eldest Stephen Remington are John Remington and Hannah Hale. Source: 20 May 2007 Worldconnect database "michelotti" of Dave Utzinger at utz@aol.com.

BIRTH:
1. Most entries on Ordinance Index report b. 1 Jun 1778 in Suffield, Hartford, Connecticut. 
Remington, Sibyl (I1357)
 
4847 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. It should be noted that many have tried to link Benjamin as a son to John and Hester (Mason) Winner. This is probably because of Benjamin's residence in Pike co. after 1840 and his marriage in Clermont co. Benjamin is John's nephew and not his son. Benjamin's father Jonathan is the brother of John). Benjamin evidently followed his cousins (John's sons) from Ohio to Illinois. See notes of John Winner as to John only having three sons (Samuel, b. 1810; Thomas, b. 1814; and William, b. 1817). A quick summary of why Benjamin is not a son of John Winner:
-Benjamin was too old being born in 1801 to be John and Hester's son.
-Benjamin shows up in the 1830 census next to his father Jonathan in Brown Co.
-The censuses for John Winner appear to only support three sons - Samuel, Thomas, and William.
-Benjamin in the Pike co., IL, censuses is not right next door to John as are his two sons William and Samuel. They are in different townships.
-Benjamin names two of his children Jonathan and Sarah (his father's and mother's names). There is no John or Hester names among Benjamin's children.
-In the 1860 census, there are two young adults Benjamin and Joseph Conkland living with Benjamin. Benjamin's sister Amy married William B. Conklin in 1832 and these are most likely Benjamin's nephews.
-Proximity of both John and Benjamin in Clermont co. is easily explained. Benjamin's father owned land which straddled the county line of Brown (Perry Twp.) and Clermont (Wayne Twp.). Benjamin, when he is reported in Clermont co., is in Wayne Twp. John lived in Batavia Twp. in Clermont co. Benjamin, when reported in Clermont co., is actually closer to Jonathan than John.

2. Censuses:
1830 US: Perry Twp., Brown, OH (next to each other):
Jonathan Minor [Winner], males: 1@20-30, 1@50-60; females: 1<5, 2@10-15, 1@15-20, 1@20-30, 1@50-60.
Benjamin Minor [Winner], males: 1<5, 1@20-30; females 2<5, 1@5-10, 1@20-30.
(The names are clearly written as Minor; however, there is no other listing for Jonathan, but he was listed in the 1820 and 1840 censuses. George Ashton is on the same page. In the 1840 census George Ashton is listed on the same page as Jonathan Winner, George Ashton is also the son of Hannah Johnson, sister of Naomi, wife of Isaac Winner, Jonathan's wife.)

1840 US: Pike, IL (Rinner in the index):
Benjamin Winner, males: 2<5, 2@5-10, 1@10-15, 1@40-50; females: 1<5, 1@5-10, 2@10-15, 1@30-40.

1850 US: Twp. 6 S 5 W, Pike, IL, 9 Nov 1850, 1230/1249:
Benjamin Winner, 49, farmer, NJ.
Mary, 47, NJ.
Johnathan, 23, farmer, OH. [Named for his grandfather.]
James, 19, farmer, OH.
Birt, 15, male, OH.

1860 US: Atlas, Pike, IL, 26 Jul 1860, 921/921:
Benjamin Winner, 60, farmer, $800/400, NJ.
Mary, 50, housework, NJ.
W.B.T. Winner, 23, male, laborer, OH.
Barbary, 7, OH.
Benj'n Conkland, 23, labourer, OH. [Nephew, son of sister Amy Winner and William Conklin; see him in 1850 census with parents.]
Jonathan [Conkland], 21, laborer, OH. [Nephew, son of sister Amy Winner and William Conklin; see him in 1850 census with parents.]
Elisa Fox, 52, housework, KY.
Susan E., 15, housework, KY.

1870 US: Copperopolis, Calaveras, CA, 29 Jun 1870, 324/274:
B. Winner, 69, teaming, $100/$300, NJ.
M.C. Winner, 65, NJ.
Note: B. Winner and wife, M. C. Winner, are in Copperopolis, Calaveras, CA in 1870. Their birth years and birth places match with Benjamin and Mary, whose daughter, Rhoda Fletcher, and her family also moved from Adams County, IL to Calaveras County after 1860. Copperopolis is the next town over from Angels Camp, which is where many of Rhoda's family are found in the census records after 1870. In fact, some of Rhoda's family are also to be found in Copperopolis.

3. Children of Benjamin and Mary partially from censuses and also from unverified user-submitted Internet sites:
-Sarah, b. 1823 OH, m. James M. Reader 3 Aug 1848 in Adams Co., OH (her name misspelled as Wimer) and was in the 1850 census of Madison, Clark Co., OH. [Per Gary Conn.]
-Rhoda, b. 1825 OH, m. John T. Fletcher 10 may 1841 in Adams co., OH (her name is spelled Rhody Wyner), they lived in Quincy, Adams Co., IL, in the 1850. [Per Gary Conn.]
-Jonathan, 1826 OH, d. 1870.
-James L., 1831, OH, d. 15 Apr 1863 in Mt. Vernon, Jefferson, IL. He m. Isabella Lambert 18 Aug 1853 in Pike Co., IL. [Gary Coon believes middle name may be Lawrence.]
-Birt/Burke (W.B.T.), 1835-37. [May also be W.B.T. or W.B.T. may be a separate individual.]
-Barbary, 1843.
-Note: I believe the listing of Benjamin Conklin by many sites is an error since he is a nephew only.

4. FHL book 977.1794 H2h "History of Clermont County, Ohio...," by Louis H. Evarts (1880, Philadelphia), p. 505. Wayne Twp. in Clermont County adjoins Perry Twp. in Brown County where Benjamin's father Jonathan lived. List of property holders in Wayne Twp. in 1826: Benjamin Winner. No other Winners listed.

5. The following is my extraction of any Winner marriages found in the FHL book 977.3453 V2k "The Marriage Records of Pike County, IL," by, Mrs. Agnes DuVal Keller, 1980, extracted from 1827 to 1859. I include this for informational purposes for other researcher since these are probably grandchildren of John and Hester Ann (Mason) Winner or children of Benjamin and Mary (Brown) Winner:
-William T. Sitton - Hannah Winner, 26 Jun 1842.
-Jonathan Winner - Rebecca Peckham, 23 Jan 1851.
-James Barns - Hester Ann Winner, 18 Sep 1851.
-James Kilgore - Elizabeth Winner, 7 Nov 1852.
-James Winner - Isabella Lambert, 18 Aug 1853.
-Ephraim Winner - Sophia Burgett, 7 Jun 1857.
-Albert G. Burgett - Sarah Ann Winner, 11 Mar 1858.
-James Winner - Susan Lad, 23 Sep 1858.
-Joseph Matthews - Lovina Winner, 12 Apr 1859.

6. For reference, I summarize the information, not all correct, which shows up LDS Ancestral File and thereafter in many undocumented Internet submissions. It shows Benjamin Winner b. abt 1800 at guessed place of Pisgar/Pisgah, Clermont, OH [variant in IGI is Pisgah, Butler, OH] married [IGI says maybe abt 1831] to Mary Ann Winslow [IGI says perhaps Wilson] with a birth guess of abt 1804 at same guessed place. [This part about Benjamin is out-of-date and should be disregarded.] A son James L. Winner is shown b. 1832 and d. 15 Apr 1863 in same place with burial at "Mt. Vernon Nation." James marries Isabella Lambert 18 Aug 1853 at Atlas, Pike, IL; she was b. 23 Sep 1836 at Newcastle-on-Tyne, Durham, England and d. 17 May 1915 at Salt Lake City, UT and was bur. 21 May 1915 in SLC Cemetery. Her second husband was James Burgess m. 2 Nov 1865 at Pittsfield, Pike, IL. Four children are born to this James with Isabella [I believe I have seen parts of this family in my previous researches including perhaps RLDS church records]:
i. Benjamin Lambert Winner, b. 22 Oct 1854 at Atlas, Pike, IL, d. 15 Jul 1918.
ii. Leoni Leoti Winner, b. 15 Jul 1857 at Six Mile Creek, Pike, IL, d. 15 Nov 1933 at Salt Lake City and bur. in SLC cemetery 19 Nov 1933. Spouse: George Wilding.
iii. Edward Lincoln Winner, b. 11 Nov 1860 at Six Mile Creek, Pike, IL and d. 9 Jan 1861.
iv. Mary Catherine Winner, b. 19 Apr 1862 at Atlas, Pike, IL, d. 23 Oct 1944. Spouse: Joseph E. Haines.
There are various variants in LDS Ordinance Index [IGI] such as birth at Pisgah, Butler, OH and marriage maybe about 1831 to perhaps Mary Ann Wilson. Another has a Benjamin Winner marrying Eliza Bassett 12 Feb 1824 in Gloucester Co., NJ. Another reliable extracted record shows a Benjamin Winner m. 1 Sep 1822 to Polly Brown in Clermont Co., OH [this of course being the correct marriage].

MARRIAGE:
1. Ancestry.com's "Clermont County, Ohio, Marriage Records, 1800-1850": Benjamin Winner to Polly Brown, 1 Sep 1822 by Wm. Hunter JP." 
Winner, Benjamin (I3200)
 
4848 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

2. From Roy L. Hales 14 Feb 2016:
"Was there Originally a Single Hales Family?
Many of our family believe the quest for Hales Origins starts with a landed family in Norfolk, who were ancestral to the Hales family of Kent.
In 1659, Thomas Philpott wrote that Hales Place in High Halden, Kent, as the source "from whence as from their fountain, the several streams of the Hales's that in rivlets have spread themselves over the while country, did break forth." He was, of course, looking back during the three centuries in which the descendants of Nicholas de Hales (circa 1327) spread across England and made significant contributions to the nation's history.
From a genealogical perspective, it is noteworthy that there were a number of Hale entries in Archbishop Pecham's survey of Kent Manors 1283-85 (Kent Archaeological Society 2006):
-Richard, Thomas & Robert at Hale - From the Demese of Hale in Wrotham Hundred (p 293)
-Henry at Hale in Boughton (pp 170 & 174)
-John at Hale in Maidstone (p 107)
-John at Halle (p 76 & 78) and Helewis at Hale (pp 78, 82) in Reculver (Bleangate Hundred)
-Willliam at Halle (p 34) , Richard at Hale, John at Hale (p 42) in Wingham
These were Hales families living on the Archbishop of Canterbury's manors.
The lay subsidy of 1334 - compiled when Nicholas de Hales had two sons (Robert & Nicholas) - has 40 "ate Hale/Halle" entries, many in areas outside of the Archbishop's control, though there is an overlap. These all pertained to landed families, whose name would now be translated as either "Hale" or "Hales":
-Adam atte Hale - Aylesford Hundred (1s 61⁄2d)
-Cecily atte Hale - Felborough Hundred (6s 10d)
-Christine atte Hale - Bleangate Hundred (2s) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-Goldman atte Hale - Hundred of Chatham & Gillingham (1s)
-John ate Halle - Aylesford Hundred (6s 2d), Felborough Hundred (2s 1d), Wingham Hundred (2s), Blackburn Hundred (4s), Larkfield Hundred (2s), Maidstone Hundred (2s), Foreign Hundred of Rochester (7d) - see Wingham in Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-John ate Halle Sr - Maidstone Hundred (2s 6d) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-John atte Hale Jr - Maidstone Hundred (1s) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-John in the Hale - Maidstone Hundred (9s) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-John s/o Thomas atte Hale - West in Milton (1s)
-Margery atte Hale - Blackburn Hundred (3s 4d)
-Nicholas atte Hale - Bleangate Hundred (3s 4d) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-Nicholas in the Hale - Larkfield Hundred (3s)
-Osbert in the Hale - Larkfield Hundred (2s)
-Richard atte Hale - Wrotham Hundred (6s) - see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-Robert atte Hale - Langport Hundred (9d)
-Robert atte Halle Sr - Bleangate Hundred (3s 4d)- see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-Robert Atte Halle Jr - Bleangate Hundred (6s 8d)- see Archbishop Pecham's survey, above
-Robert de Halle - Bircholt Hundred (8s 2¾d)
-Roger atte Hale - Eastry Hundred (5s 4d)
-Roger de Hale - Faversham Hundred (4s)
-Simon atte Hale - Longbridge Hundred (1s 31⁄2d), Hundred of Chatham & Gillingham (3s)
-Simon de Hale - Longbridge Hundred (9s)
-Stephen atte Halle - Aylesford Hundred (9s 3¾d)
-Thomas atte Halle Felborough Hundred (3s 4d), Larkfield Hundred (1s), Larkfield Hundred (2s), Hundred of Chatham & Gillingham (9s)
-Tristan atte Hale - Felborough Hundred (2s 1d).
-Walter atte Hale - Hundred of Brenchley (1s)
-William atte Halle - Blackburn Hundred (1s 4d), Larkfield Hundred (6s), Maidstone Hundred (1s 6d), Longbridge Hundred (3s), Hundred of Codsheath (1s 6d), Hundred of Codsheath (2s).
Two of the three Hales are mentioned in the great peasant rebellion of 1381 were from Kent:
-Sir Robert de Hales, (s/o Nicholas de Hales) Lord High Treasurer of England, is the most famous. The peasants beheaded him because of the poll tax, used to finance the war with France. Hales was also a crusader, "hero" of the 1365 sack of Alexandria and the Lord/Grand Prior of the Knights Hospitallers of England. One of that order's historians believes he was the model that Chaucer used for the knight in Canterbury Tales.
-John de Hales of Malling has been called "the first and principal originator of the insurrection" and looted Canterbury, (R B Robson, THE PEASANT'S REVOLT OF 1381 (edition of 1970, pp 120-122) but appears to be little known outside of Kent. He was not related to Nicholas de Hales.
-Stephen de Hales was the sheriff of Norfolk. He was captured by the peasants, but when the opportunity arose joined an attack against them. He could be distantly related to Nicholas, who is believed to have come from Norfolk.
There are at least 19 Hales entries in surviving English muster rolls from 1370-1417, and six were archers (i.e. probably peasants who did not own land):
-John de Hales - Armed archer served under Brice, John (Lt of the Admiral towards the North) in 1370 TNA E101/30/37 m2
-John Hales, Esquire, Man-at-arms served under Ferrariis, Ralph de, Sir (Admiral of the North) 1371-1372 TNA E101/31/28 m3
-Nicholas Hales, Man-at-arms served under Leget, Helmyng 1372 Keeping of the Sea TNA E101/32/1 m3
-Thomas Hales, Esquire, Man-at-arms served under Hereford, Humphrey de Bohun, earl of Hereford in the expedition of King Edward III 1372 Exped NavalTNA E101/32/20 m2
-Edward Hales, Man-at-arms served under Basset of Drayton, Ralph Lord in the army of Lancaster, John of Gaunt, duke of 1373-1374 Exped France TNA E101/32/38 m1
-William Hales, Man-at-arms served under Cambridge, Edmund of Langley, earl of Cambridge,who co-led the expedition with and Brittany, John, duke of in 1375 Exped France TNA E101/35/6 m1
-Hales Man-at-arms served under Percy, Thomas, Sir in the expedition of Buckingham, Thomas of Woodstock, earl of 1377-1378 Exped Naval TNA E101/37/28 m2
-Richard Hales, Archer, served under Percy, Thomas, Sir in the expedition of Buckingham, Thomas of Woodstock, earl of 1377-1378 Exped Naval TNA E101/37/28 m2
-William Hales, Esquire, Man-at-arms served under Hemenhale, Robert, Sir Arundel, Richard Fitz Alan, earl of 1387 Exped Naval TNA E101/40/33m15
-Esmon Hales, Esquire, Man-at-arms served under Hemenhale, Robert, Sir in the expedition of Arundel, Richard Fitz Alan, earl of 1387 Exped Naval TNA E101/40/33 m15
-William Hales, Man-at-arms served under Luttrell, Hugh, Sir in the expedition of Arundel, Richard Fitz Alan, earl of 1387 Exped Naval TNA E101/40/34 m15
-Esmond Hales, Man-at-arms served under Luttrell, Hugh, Sir in the expedition of Arundel, Richard Fitz Alan, earl of 1387 Exped Naval TNA E101/40/34 m15
-James Hales, Archer, served under Scrope, Stephen le, Sir Standing force Ireland TNA E101/41/39 m6i
-Nicholas Hales, Archer served under Wingfield, John de, Sir in the expedition of Arundel, Richard Fitz Alan, earl of 1388 Exped Naval TNA E101/41/5 m12
-John de Hales, Archer, served under Leche, Roger, Sir in the army of Somerset, John de Beaufort, earl of 1403 Standing force Wales/Garrison Carmarthen TNA E101/43/21 m4
-Walter Hales served under Waterton, John in Henry V 1415 Exped France TNA E101/45/1 m6
-Geffray Hales, Archer served under Clarence, Thomas of Lancaster, Duke of in Henry V 1415 Exped France TNA E101/45/4 m4
-John Hales, Man-at-arms served under Fiennes, Roger, Sir in the army of Gloucester, Humphrey, Duke of 1417 Exped France TNA E101/51/2 m16
-John Hales, Man-at-arms, served under Cornwall, John, Sir in the army of Gloucester, Humphrey, Duke of 1417 Exped France TNA E101/51/2 m35
Thus it would seem that only a specific stream of those bearing the surname "Hales" descend from the landed families of Norfolk and Kent." 
Hales (I5186)
 
4849 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
No mentions were found for family surnames Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennett, Eagles, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Mills, Morskin, Shelley, Sisley, Strain, Vande Wall, Worme. 
Barret, Jane (I5071)
 
4850 RESEARCH_NOTES:
1. Jack Cade's Rebellion of 1450: A Database of Names of those Receiving Pardons, taken from Calendar of Patent Rolls Henry VI 5 (1909) pp. 338-374 accessed from https://familysearch.org. This spreadsheet of about 3449 persons was created by Merton Historical Society in September 2014, and is accessible at http://www.mertonhistoricalsociety.org.uk/index.php?cat=morden&sec=!rebels
For more detail on this listing and the event see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Pub/ArchCant/007%20-%201868/007-03.pdf
No one listed with the following surnames (or variations thereof): Acock/Alcock, Barret, Chepfield, Dancy, Dennet, Gateland, Hadwin, Hales, Herbert, Hopper, James, Kitney, Marden, Mills, Morskin, Shelly, Sisley, Straine, Upton, and Vande Wall.

2. The following extraction was made from the "Index to the Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by H.A. Hanley, B.A. and C.W. Chalklin, M.A., B. Litt accessed 11 Feb 2016. From this index, the actual entries are found in "The Kent Lay Subsidy Roll of 1334/5," by the same authors accessed 12 Feb 2016. The second document more fully explains the history of this Lay Subsity. This was a tax assessed on householders; however, it probably only represents about 50% of the householders since the poorer families were not assessed:
Marden, Merdenne, wid. of Adam do, 168 (Hundred of Merdenne [Marden]); Joan do, 121 (Hundred of Eyhorne [Eythorne]); Jn. do, 168 (Hundred of Merdenne [Marden]); Robt. do, 106 (Hundred of Badekelegh [Barclay]). 
Marden, Edward (I5070)
 

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